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mervyn797 September 18th, 2009 1:58 AM

Toughest member of the Elite Four?
 
Have you beaten them?
Who was the toughest, excluding the champion?

Dr Gregory House September 18th, 2009 2:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mervyn797 (Post 5128274)
Have you beaten them?
Who was the toughest, excluding the champion?

The one who trains the dark pokemon, because she doesn't have a specific elemental type, and I didn't have psychic at the time. XD

Munch Dog September 18th, 2009 4:24 AM

Since I haven't gotten my copy yet I can't tell you, but if they're pretty much unchanged from the old versions, from my most recent playthrough, I would have to say Karen, though honestly I find Johto to have the weakest Elite 4 out of all the games, especially Koga. He's laughably easy in the old versions, but they're looking like they're going to be a lot tougher in their rebattles so I can't wait for that when I get my copy.

mervyn797 September 18th, 2009 5:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Boney (Post 5128421)
Since I haven't gotten my copy yet I can't tell you, but if they're pretty much unchanged from the old versions, from my most recent playthrough, I would have to say Karen, though honestly I find Johto to have the weakest Elite 4 out of all the games, especially Koga. He's laughably easy in the old versions, but they're looking like they're going to be a lot tougher in their rebattles so I can't wait for that when I get my copy.

you are exactly right, it was a cakewalk. i defeated the elite 4 + champ in 15 mins straight!!

blue September 18th, 2009 6:49 AM

Well I'm getting my copy of Soul Silver soon but from what I've seen and Played in Pokemon Gold, Karen was and looks the hardest.

The Fourteenth Doctor September 18th, 2009 7:00 AM

on my last playthrough of heartgold i thought lance was hardest as his dragonite kept wiping out my team, i think Karen might be the hardest on my current save as i don't have fighting or bug (for umbreon), dark (for gengar)

Naruto456910 September 18th, 2009 7:02 AM

I say Lance is, I beat the rest of them with my Typhlosion lvl 67 by himself. Lance was the toughest in my eyes.

Azumi September 18th, 2009 7:38 AM

I would say Karen. She gave me the most trouble with Umbreon on her team.
I had to use MY Umbreon to fend her's off, and boy it took ages, since I didn't want to damage my other Pokemon, since Umbreon was her first Pokemon sent out. D:

Apostrophe September 18th, 2009 11:07 AM

Gengar doesn't really need a Dark-type to defeat it. It's part poison, so Ground type will do just fine unless they added Levitate to it in G3.

zirico September 18th, 2009 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Naruto456910 (Post 5128646)
I say Lance is, I beat the rest of them with my Typhlosion lvl 67 by himself. Lance was the toughest in my eyes.

Lance isn't an E4 member.

MizuJosh September 18th, 2009 2:25 PM

Well, I don't have SS yet (I'm waiting for localization), but I remember Koga being the most challenging. I hated his Ariados and Foretress.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ September 18th, 2009 4:18 PM

Don't have neither but when I had GSC, the hardest Elite four member was Karen for me


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Andrew McKenzie September 18th, 2009 4:34 PM

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Originally Posted by zirico (Post 5129139)
Lance isn't an E4 member.

When someone usually asks a question pertaining to the Elite Four, they usually mean all five members of the Pokemon League, including the Champion, unless stated otherwise.

As for me, Lance has always been my downfall. I don't usually carry Ice Types or Dragon Types with me, nor do I usually train them.
And those two types being the only weakness against another Dragon Type, I usually have a major disadvantage against him, unless I teach Ice Beam to another Pokemon via TM, which is rare for me.

Then again, I love the challenge.

And if you were just referring to the E4(and not including Lance), then it'd have to be Karen.

kissing. raindrops September 18th, 2009 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew McKenzie (Post 5130200)
When someone usually asks a question pertaining to the Elite Four, they usually mean all five members of the Pokemon League, including the Champion, unless stated otherwise.

As for me, Lance has always been my downfall. I don't usually carry Ice Types or Dragon Types with me, nor do I usually train them.
And those two types being the only weakness against another Dragon Type, I usually have a major disadvantage against him, unless I teach Ice Beam to another Pokemon via TM, which is rare for me.

Then again, I love the challenge.

And if you were just referring to the E4(and not including Lance), then it'd have to be Karen.

If you read the first post, the thread starter mentioned excluding the champion.

Karen. But she can easily be taken down by some. The E4 isn't very hard, I would say.

Tudj September 18th, 2009 8:36 PM

Well, not just following the crowd but Karen was the toughest, but I killed her anyway, which brings me to the point that I hate Umbreon (not hate, but its hard to defeat).

Dannwe123 September 19th, 2009 4:34 AM

Karen.
She's th only one i've had to sr to beat (beacuse of umbreons f-ing double team)

ShinyMeganium September 19th, 2009 4:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew McKenzie (Post 5130200)
When someone usually asks a question pertaining to the Elite Four, they usually mean all five members of the Pokemon League, including the Champion, unless stated otherwise.

As for me, Lance has always been my downfall. I don't usually carry Ice Types or Dragon Types with me, nor do I usually train them.
And those two types being the only weakness against another Dragon Type, I usually have a major disadvantage against him, unless I teach Ice Beam to another Pokemon via TM, which is rare for me.

Then again, I love the challenge.

And if you were just referring to the E4(and not including Lance), then it'd have to be Karen.

First, again, the OP said that. Second, I say E4 for E4 and "league" for E4+the chsmp, I don't know how many people would talk differently in a thread like this.

Err...ghost type I guess. Mostly because, unless you use your Sacred Ash, your Pokemons get kinda out of some PPs.

mervyn797 September 19th, 2009 5:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ShinyMeganium (Post 5131496)
First, again, the OP said that. Second, I say E4 for E4 and "league" for E4+the chsmp, I don't know how many people would talk differently in a thread like this.

Err...ghost type I guess. Mostly because, unless you use your Sacred Ash, your Pokemons get kinda out of some PPs.

actually, it was a mistake on my side. playing fire red, platinum, diamond made me think the champion always had different TYPE pokemon. so, certainly most of us find them difficult. thats why i thought not to include the champion....


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