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Dr Gregory House September 20th, 2009 5:34 PM

Enigma Crystal & Rock Capsule - Discussion
 
Basic Info:
Two new items to discuss, nobody really knows any concrete information about them, and everybody is waiting on that information.

So, for those of you who don't know, these are the items speculation is all about:
Enigma Crystal:
Spoiler:
http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/items/enigmacrystal.png Enigma Crystal: Turns into Soul Dew and awakens Latios/Latias


Rock/Lock Capsule:
Spoiler:
http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/items/rockcapsule.png Rock/Lock Capsule: It is unknown what this item does at this point in time.


They were wrapped in spoilers for people who don't want to ruin any surprises lolol.

So basically, this is just a speculation thread, and discussion, when more info is found it will be updated. ;)

What do you think they are for?
Which theory seems most appropriate?

Current Theories:
Spoiler:

Theory One (Not really a theory but is included anyway):
The Enigma Crystal transforms into Soul Dew and therefore you get the other lati.
Theory Two by Random Other Forum (ROF for short):
The Rock Capsule holds portable meteorites for deoxys.
Theory Three by Me:
Maybe the rock capsule holds these?:
http://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/items/wet-rock.pnghttp://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/items/hot-rock.pnghttp://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/items/cold-rock.pnghttp://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/items/sandy-rock.png
i.e. the rocks that prolong field effects.
Theory Four by KingdomBlade:
The Rock Capsule will introduce a new Pokemon.
Theory Five by CrashmanX:
Some weird way to get Regis? Or, perhaps a metal, earth, and cold rock, could all be collected into this, after beating the regis, (locations unknown?) to get Regigigas from somwhere.
Theory Six by Sammie426:
Unlocks a new area within the game.
Theory Seven by AeroKuragari:
Something weird to do with Rotom.
Theory Eight by Me:
Collecting pieces of a Ancient Rock to somehow summon a legendary from the past or something.
Theory Nine by Me:
Could be related to RSE remakes that they are apparently going to make.
Theory Ten by Tudj:
Probably part of a spin-off game, or a new wii based game.
Could be a Lock Capsule (as mitchman and others stated):
Related to some sort of WiFi event.

Update:
I have recently obtained both items but I am going to need help figuring out what to do with them.
Stephen is nowhere to be found.
And no idea with the Lock Capsule. XD

Sasuke. September 20th, 2009 5:36 PM

Well. Enigma Crystal will make Latios or Latias roam around. Fer shur.
Rock Capsule sounds like a Rotom thing. o-o;;

KingdomBlade September 20th, 2009 5:37 PM

The Rock Capsule feels like it would unlock something in the future games. Think like a new Pokemon. Maybe if connected to HGSS, it would unlock something important.

Dr Gregory House September 20th, 2009 5:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeroKuragari (Post 5137447)
Well. Enigma Crystal will make Latios or Latias roam around. Fer shur.
Rock Capsule sounds like a Rotom thing. o-o;;

apparently, you take the crystal to the museum in pewter city, it transforms into soul dew or whatever, and then when you leave you battle the other lati. that's just speculation from other places though.
No, it's not, because apparently there's a rotom room somewhere within hgss, although i'm not too sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingdomBlade (Post 5137450)
The Rock Capsule feels like it would unlock something in the future games. Think like a new Pokemon. Maybe if connected to HGSS, it would unlock something important.

yeah people are talking about something similar to the manaphy thing...
another person said it could be for carrying portable versions of the meteorites, to transform deoxys with. who knows really.

CrashmanX September 20th, 2009 5:46 PM

I think the Rock Capsule might have something to do with the Regis maybe? Or else I have to agree with previous speculation of Deoxys.

Samme! September 20th, 2009 6:17 PM

I doubt that they will include the Regis again so maybe it holds an item to unlock a new area????

Sydian September 20th, 2009 6:22 PM

Deoxys already has an area to swap formes, I'm afraid, so that can't be it. As for holding the weather rocks, I highly doubt it. If we didn't need a special item to hold them in DPPt, then why would we need them in HGSS?

Dr Gregory House September 20th, 2009 6:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samme426 (Post 5137581)
I doubt that they will include the Regis again so maybe it holds an item to unlock a new area????

yeah...
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSmeargleSplatter (Post 5137598)
Deoxys already has an area to swap formes, I'm afraid, so that can't be it. As for holding the weather rocks, I highly doubt it. If we didn't need a special item to hold them in DPPt, then why would we need them in HGSS?

don't forget it's just a theory, otherwise, what else would it hold?

or maybe it's for collecting pieces of rock ;) that eventually are constructed into some weird object that summons a legendary pokemon or something?

Tudj September 20th, 2009 11:52 PM

Its funny the games have been out long enough for us to find out what it is. I think, purely on speculation that it is probably something for future games (maybe a spin-off game, or a new wii based game). But this is just theory.

Masterge77 September 21st, 2009 4:07 AM

It is likely that they involve future Wi-Fi events..........

Andrew McKenzie September 21st, 2009 3:11 PM

Rock Capsule.
Perhaps it's an item needed to be owned by the player, whilst bring Eevee to either a firest or snowy area(Mt. Silver Top) to evolve into Leafeon and Glaceon respectively(for those who didn't/don't have D/P/Pt).
Although that seems way too farfetched too me.

Perhaps it has something to do with Regigigas?

Guy September 21st, 2009 3:27 PM

Having the Regis included doesn't seem likely even for the Rock Capsule. DPPt has already gotten them covered, and Platinum assured those who got the game would have every possible chance at catching the three and thus unlocking Regigigas at the end. So, I would think this out as if the Regis were to be included, then something what have been known about them up to now.

As for what it my do, there are many possibilities. However, it could be an item coded into the game, but not obtainable at all. This has occurred before and it is still possible. Seeing as no one may have it as yet and knowing nothing has been known as yet, then for me it serves no purpose at the moment. However, if I were to go with one of the theories already said before, then possibly a future Wi-Fi or similar related event could revolve around it.

Gulpin September 21st, 2009 7:09 PM

To me it seems like these games are to be paired with Platinum, so that people without GBA games could recieve every Pokemon not yet available by a common event (ie. the Legendary Birds, who havn't had a common event and are unatainable through Pal Park if the player doesn't own a DS, DSLite, or any GBA Pokemon Game.)

This statement leads me to believe that the Rock Capsule will help someone obtain a legendary or Pokemon that isn't available already through HGSS, DPPt, or common events. Are there any rare Pokemon like that? I'm not sure but maybe Jirachi or Mew or Celebi could be linked to this.

Sydian September 21st, 2009 8:05 PM

Mew, Celebi, and Jirachi have events that all seem irrelevant to an item with the name rock capsule. None of them are even closely related to a rock, unless you count Mew transforming into Geodude.

Poliwagged September 21st, 2009 8:28 PM

The item could be interpreted as "Rock Capsule" or "Lock Capsule".

Mitchman September 21st, 2009 8:44 PM

Exactly. Either rock or lock. I personally think its lock but whatever. It seems to be obtainalbe and tradable over WiFi so for me it seems to have a purpose for the future.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ September 25th, 2009 4:50 PM

Maybe it's just one of those useless items that you can sell in the games


:t354:TG

Mitchman September 25th, 2009 9:47 PM

How the hell do you figure that Tatsujin. Its available through Wifi and tradeable with Wifi. We just have no idea how and what it does.

mervyn797 September 25th, 2009 9:56 PM

maybe it just strenghens rock type moves!!! XD.

Dr Gregory House September 25th, 2009 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mervyn797 (Post 5155180)
maybe it just strenghens rock type moves!!! XD.

But that wouldn't work if it's called the 'lock capsule' though would it? XD

mervyn797 September 25th, 2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Gregory House (Post 5155214)
But that wouldn't work if it's called the 'lock capsule' though would it? XD

lol, i thought it was rock capsule!!
then it must be having a secret item in it!

>Feelings< September 25th, 2009 10:24 PM

Seeing as how both are Key Items, they must have noticeable importance in the game.

Did the items get discovered by hacking or using codes?
If that is the case, then they are probably items which they decided to scrap later on, just like the Red Chain and Magma Rock in D/P/Pt.


If it has been found in the games fair and square, then the ideas are different.
For the Enigma Crystal, it has already been thought of that this is supposed to turn into Soul Dew and somehow help in the Latias/Latios sidequest.

As for the Rock Capsule, I see nothing like a rock in the sprite, so it might be a Lock Capsule too, who knows?
Maybe it really will unlock some area? Maybe even a new Pokemon? Maybe it's supposed to do something in the future games? Maybe there is an in-game event that requires this?

Dr Gregory House September 25th, 2009 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by >Feelings< (Post 5155242)
As for the Rock Capsule, I see nothing like a rock in the sprite, so it might be a Lock Capsule too, who knows?
Maybe it really will unlock some area? Maybe even a new Pokemon? Maybe it's supposed to do something in the future games? Maybe there is an in-game event that requires this?

Yeah that seems to be the big question right now, because according to the item's code it is obtainable over WiFi and by WiFi only... so, it's either to do with an event, the Pokewalker, or a new game, or a new Pokemon.
That's all I can think of.

mervyn797 September 25th, 2009 10:28 PM

after what feelings said, even i feel they could be scrapped items. maybe getting it using a cheat.

Dr Gregory House September 25th, 2009 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mervyn797 (Post 5155255)
after what feelings said, even i feel they could be scrapped items. maybe getting it using a cheat.

hmm yeah, if someone could get it and try it out that would be awesome...

mervyn797 September 25th, 2009 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Gregory House (Post 5155268)
hmm yeah, if someone could get it and try it out that would be awesome...

youre asking us to cheat it out?

Dr Gregory House September 25th, 2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mervyn797 (Post 5155276)
youre asking us to cheat it out?

well at least to confirm the latios/latias one?
nobody would really have any idea about the lock capsule one so there'd be no point trying to figure that one out...

zoonsum September 25th, 2009 11:50 PM

All the secret is in the word "capsule".
My opinion is that it will unlock something never seen before.
Ask yourself: Why it has to be a capsule and not an apple?

Dr Gregory House September 26th, 2009 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoonsum (Post 5155405)
All the secret is in the word "capsule".
My opinion is that it will unlock something never seen before.
Ask yourself: Why it has to be a capsule and not an apple?

HAHA, that made me chuckle... ALthough it would be cool if they had an actual apple item, rather than just leftovers... :3
But back on topic, it IS all in the word capsule.

mervyn797 September 26th, 2009 1:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Gregory House (Post 5155283)
well at least to confirm the latios/latias one?
nobody would really have any idea about the lock capsule one so there'd be no point trying to figure that one out...

okay, i cheated the items.
here are all the odd items i found:

1. Loot Sack (used to carry loot obtained in coal mine) perhaps its soot sack.
2. Old Charm (the one from D/p/pt)
3. red chain " "
4. magma stone
5. Parcel!!!! (d/p/pt)
6. coupon 1,2,3
7. unown note

But there's no items mentioned in the first post....

Circuit September 26th, 2009 1:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokebeach.com
The Rock / Lock capsule has a relationship to Wi-Fi. In the game data, there is text that says, “The Rock Capsule is being looked after carefully. The Rock Capsule arrived safely!” It’s probably a pre-programmed Mystery Gift. The data for the text above is in the same location as the Manaphy egg from Pokemon Ranger. Could there be a special Pokemon inside, a special item like the Mystery Crystal, or could it unlock something in a future game?

That is what they said about the Rock capsule, but even they don't sound too sure.

Dr Gregory House September 26th, 2009 1:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mervyn797 (Post 5155604)
okay, i cheated the items.
here are all the odd items i found:

1. Loot Sack (used to carry loot obtained in coal mine) perhaps its soot sack.
2. Old Charm (the one from D/p/pt)
3. red chain " "
4. magma stone
5. Parcel!!!! (d/p/pt)
6. coupon 1,2,3
7. unown note

But there's no items mentioned in the first post....

That's because HGSS is based of Platinum's engine, and as of yet Pokesav is only capable of all the old ID's, and not the latest ID's of the Crystal/Lock Capsule. Perhaps you should check your General Items slot? (They may not be Key Items)

mervyn797 September 26th, 2009 2:08 AM

checking items, none. theres a soul dew already...

Dr Gregory House September 26th, 2009 2:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mervyn797 (Post 5155711)
checking items, none. theres a soul dew already...

you could try going to the museum or something? maybe the soul dew might be activated there?
I'd still like to see the lock capsule being fiddle with :3
(as you may have noticed I've started calling it that now)

mervyn797 September 26th, 2009 2:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Gregory House (Post 5155712)
you could try going to the museum or something? maybe the soul dew might be activated there?
I'd still like to see the lock capsule being fiddle with :3
(as you may have noticed I've started calling it that now)

hmm..... i dont have the lock capsule! howll i activate it?

Mitchman September 26th, 2009 2:15 AM

The soul dew is just to be taken to Pewter to get the second [email protected] Its the Enigma Crystal I believe.

Dr Gregory House September 26th, 2009 2:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mervyn797 (Post 5155720)
hmm..... i dont have the lock capsule! howll i activate it?

Nobody knows as yet... if somebody might be able to figure out how to obtain it... maybe through a wondercard... we might get a glimpse of it...

And Mitchman makes a good point, would the Soul Dew by itself activate the other Lati, or would it specifically have to be the Enigma Crystal?

Mitchman September 26th, 2009 2:56 AM

You would need to get the Enigma Crystal bring it to Pewter and get the event activated. If anything the only thing unknown is the lock/rock capsule not the Enigma Crystal.

Dr Gregory House September 26th, 2009 3:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchman (Post 5155798)
You would need to get the Enigma Crystal bring it to Pewter and get the event activated. If anything the only thing unknown is the lock/rock capsule not the Enigma Crystal.

Mm, but I still think there's resonable speculation about how to obtain it.
I mean, how exactly would one find the Enigma Crystal?

Mitchman September 26th, 2009 3:05 AM

Downloadable through WiFi makes the most sense right now.

Dr Gregory House September 26th, 2009 3:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchman (Post 5155813)
Downloadable through WiFi makes the most sense right now.

That would explain why no-one has directly obtained it just yet I guess.

rndm. September 26th, 2009 3:21 AM

My theory is that the Rock Capsule contains rocks from evolution places in Sinnoh. (=Moss, Icy and Coronet rocks?)

mervyn797 September 26th, 2009 5:00 AM

no idea what to do about it....... will have to wait for some more clarification.

CrashmanX September 26th, 2009 6:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rndm. (Post 5155856)
My theory is that the Rock Capsule contains rocks from evolution places in Sinnoh. (=Moss, Icy and Coronet rocks?)

Actually this seems to make the most sense so far.

Palamon September 26th, 2009 7:23 AM

They are very important, the Enigma rock summons either Latias, or Latios. The other one will be important when we know what it is for,

JP September 26th, 2009 7:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rndm. (Post 5155856)
My theory is that the Rock Capsule contains rocks from evolution places in Sinnoh. (=Moss, Icy and Coronet rocks?)

That makes sense, but then why is it so closely related to WiFi? Couldn't this thing just be found regularly in the game at some point? Or perhaps it serves as a sort of vessel for the rocks, bringing them over from d/p/pt through WiFi. Umm, I guess I'm just going in circles with this now lol.

Other than that, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just some scrapped idea as someone else mentioned.

Sydian September 26th, 2009 8:53 AM

rndm makes the most sense of it, but I checked the unobtainable Pokemon in HGSS on Serebii, and sure enough, all the Pokemon that evolve in those places are listed. That, unfortunately, disproves that theory.

zoonsum September 26th, 2009 8:57 AM

I just came up with 2 new ideas:(2nd one is a bit lame)
1.It unlocks a special stage in the pokewalker
2.The rock has an amazing power and it has to be in a capsule for not to be unleashed.That power could be something related to the orb that deoxys have or something like that.

Sydian September 26th, 2009 10:06 AM

You know, the Rock Capsule could just suffer the same fate as the Red Chain and Magma Rock like in DPPt. It could just be an item mentioned, but not obtained.

Circuit September 26th, 2009 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSmeargleSplatter (Post 5157155)
You know, the Rock Capsule could just suffer the same fate as the Red Chain and Magma Rock like in DPPt. It could just be an item mentioned, but not obtained.

This makes sense, but I believe otherwise. It has already been said that it is obtainable via WI-Fi (curses!) but its not known what it's for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 5156537)
Perhaps it serves as a sort of vessel for the rocks, bringing them over from d/p/pt through WiFi. Umm, I guess I'm just going in circles with this now lol.

This makes sense as well, and could very well be close to the truth, or it could be as far away as you can get, so we'll have to wait and see. I however, think this a very good possibility.

Cyndahog September 26th, 2009 11:41 AM

This seems unlikely, but it could be something to do with that machop building the house in Vermilion City.

rndm. September 26th, 2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrashmanX (Post 5156329)
Actually this seems to make the most sense so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 5156537)
That makes sense, but then why is it so closely related to WiFi? Couldn't this thing just be found regularly in the game at some point? Or perhaps it serves as a sort of vessel for the rocks, bringing them over from d/p/pt through WiFi. Umm, I guess I'm just going in circles with this now lol.

Other than that, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just some scrapped idea as someone else mentioned.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSmeargleSplatter (Post 5156821)
rndm makes the most sense of it, but I checked the unobtainable Pokemon in HGSS on Serebii, and sure enough, all the Pokemon that evolve in those places are listed. That, unfortunately, disproves that theory.

Thanks guys...and girl. I'm flattered. ^_^

JP's vessel theory sounds good. When linked to DPPt, the Capsule would arrive automatically. ...But that's highly unlikely. As stated by SilverSmeargleSplatter, Serebii lists Magnezone, Probopass, Leafeon and Glaceon unobtainable. But what if they haven't tried hacking the Rock Capsule in and somehow interracting it with the four pokemon above? Well, if it worked, a line of text relating to it would probably have been found from the game's data.

Oh btw, I haven't seen Rock Capsule's in-game description on this thread. It's supposed to be this: "A tough capsule that must be opened with a special key." From Serebii's HG&SS Discovery thread. Coronis took that from the game's script.

iPochama September 26th, 2009 12:20 PM

Very early on it was brought up that mew, celebi, and jirachi are not connected to a rock, this is false. Anime Canon leads me to believe that Jirachi was from the 'Millennium Comet' and needed to be returned to a cave in a region that was previously believed to be hoenn until it was made clear that there was no jirachi event/location in r/s. Perhaps the region was johto/kanto? although, it could be completely non-game-canon, i.e the town in 'the rise of darkrai'

If it's a lock capsule, perhaps it's a non-sinnoh way to get rotom?

Mitchman September 26th, 2009 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iPochama (Post 5157559)
Very early on it was brought up that mew, celebi, and jirachi are not connected to a rock, this is false. Anime Canon leads me to believe that Jirachi was from the 'Millennium Comet' and needed to be returned to a cave in a region that was previously believed to be hoenn until it was made clear that there was no jirachi event/location in r/s. Perhaps the region was johto/kanto? although, it could be completely non-game-canon, i.e the town in 'the rise of darkrai'

If it's a lock capsule, perhaps it's a non-sinnoh way to get rotom?

ANIME=/=GAMES. Completely seperate canons entirely.

Nope silph co. elevator activates Rotom.

iPochama September 26th, 2009 12:42 PM

There is so much anime canon featured in HG/SS. That was a silly thing to say.

..and, though Silph.CO elevator leads to the new forme change room, it does not lead to a Rotom, does it? I was saying that it may be like a part for the power plant that leads to a room where a Rotom is kept, I may remind you, Rotom is not legendary, rare, not legendary.

Circuit September 26th, 2009 1:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iPochama (Post 5157684)
There is so much anime canon featured in HG/SS. That was a silly thing to say.

..and, though Silph.CO elevator leads to the new forme change room, it does not lead to a Rotom, does it? I was saying that it may be like a part for the power plant that leads to a room where a Rotom is kept, I may remind you, Rotom is not legendary, rare, not legendary.

This could be it, but it again, maybe it's really wrong we'll just have to wait and see.

Dr Gregory House September 26th, 2009 4:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rndm. (Post 5155856)
My theory is that the Rock Capsule contains rocks from evolution places in Sinnoh. (=Moss, Icy and Coronet rocks?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 5156537)
That makes sense, but then why is it so closely related to WiFi? Couldn't this thing just be found regularly in the game at some point? Or perhaps it serves as a sort of vessel for the rocks, bringing them over from d/p/pt through WiFi. Umm, I guess I'm just going in circles with this now lol.
Other than that, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just some scrapped idea as someone else mentioned.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyndahog (Post 5157346)
This seems unlikely, but it could be something to do with that machop building the house in Vermilion City.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash! (Post 5157922)
This could be it, but it again, maybe it's really wrong, we'll just have to wait and see.


I love it how, when put in the right order, quotes just answer themselves :3

There's still no word on serebii.

Prof.Oak September 26th, 2009 9:48 PM

Probably some weird Robot part that goes on a futur pokemon that will be in the next saga..

Haza September 27th, 2009 2:06 AM

Strange that its so hard to figure out. I thought it was related to Latios & Latias. Maybe it could be the whole evoulutionary rock theory or something we havent even though of yet.

The Confuzzler September 27th, 2009 4:23 AM

Enigma Crystal for Soul Dew i'd wager.

Now, the Rock Capsule, maybe some sort of new Rock type legendary? Or a new Deoxys forme?

Tochukaso September 27th, 2009 4:33 AM

hmm... the lock capsule looks like something that silph. co would make, which means it probably has a useful or needed purpose, like the silph scope. in the last three years surely they must have invented something new?

The Confuzzler September 27th, 2009 4:34 AM

Yes, but i don't think they'd invent something that nobody knows how to work, would they? XD

level. September 27th, 2009 4:43 AM

Well, whatever it is, it will probably revealed next summer in the movie. Or maybe they'll reveal something else.

Tochukaso September 27th, 2009 5:27 AM

well it looks like something to do with silph. co... maybe if you go to them with it?

Dr Gregory House September 27th, 2009 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tochukaso (Post 5161126)
well it looks like something to do with silph. co... maybe if you go to them with it?

I had never thought of that... But it seems the most likely...
Them inventing all the technologically enhanced items and stuff...
If only someone could test this... :3

Greene1516 September 27th, 2009 5:42 PM

Why are people even bothering to suggest that they unlock new Pokemon, this is a remake and work on Gen. 5 hasn't openly begun yet; there are no new Pokemon to be had!

CrashmanX September 27th, 2009 6:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greene1516 (Post 5164225)
Why are people even bothering to suggest that they unlock new Pokemon, this is a remake and work on Gen. 5 hasn't openly begun yet; there are no new Pokemon to be had!

As far as you know.

necessary characters.

Crystal-Heart September 27th, 2009 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rndm. (Post 5157351)
Oh btw, I haven't seen Rock Capsule's in-game description on this thread. It's supposed to be this: "A tough capsule that must be opened with a special key." From Serebii's HG&SS Discovery thread. Coronis took that from the game's script.

Hmm, that leads me to believe that the correct term for the item is "Lock Capsule" and not "Rock Capsule". Sadly, that only leaves us with the term Capsule to think of theories for. However, it says it must be opened with a "special key"..is there a Key-like item in the game's code to resonate with this? Based on its look, it probably has something to do with Silph Co. or some advanced (Alien) society.

Dr Gregory House September 27th, 2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal-Heart (Post 5164886)
Hmm, that leads me to believe that the correct term for the item is "Lock Capsule" and not "Rock Capsule". Sadly, that only leaves us with the term Capsule to think of theories for. However, it says it must be opened with a "special key"..is there a Key-like item in the game's code to resonate with this? Based on its look, it probably has something to do with Silph Co. or some advanced (Alien) society.

This is all starting to get a bit deep if you ask me. :3
I just wish we had some way of testing all of these theories... :(

On the "Special Key" bit though, if it really does require a key like that, similar to Rotom's forme change room unlockage in Platinum no doubt, then wouldn't they have to have 2 events? That would make it silly, so, maybe you get the key ingame from Silph Co. once they see that you have the Lock Capsule?

rndm. September 28th, 2009 4:14 AM

^ No, there's no key-like key items (lol) in the game, excluding the Underground Key of course. Which leads me to believe that a NPC opens the Capsule for you.

Mitchman September 28th, 2009 4:20 AM

Doubt anyone would open it for you in HGSS as no text for that has appeared. So its really truly a mystery.

ShinyMeganium September 28th, 2009 6:53 AM

Rock capsule might be a key item to evolve Pokemons you could once only evolve in locations in Sinnoh. Aka Mt. Coronet, Moss rock, etc.

Guy September 28th, 2009 8:32 AM

The Rock Capsule is what intrigues me the most in all of this. I mean it could possibly be for a future event to be held unlocking something within the game. Except the question that receeds is, what? Other than this, I would go with the evolutionary theory. Currently it is unknown on where one can evolve their Pokémon such as Nosepass with trading back to DPPt and the Rock Capsule sounds as though it can fulfill that exact purpose.

Again, it is left a mystery until farther looked into. Though, it can very well be an unincluded item within the game like what has before done before in previous games. This possibility hasn't left my thoughts as yet either.

Greene1516 September 28th, 2009 8:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CrashmanX (Post 5164451)
As far as you know.

necessary characters.

No, we all know. There will be no new Pokemon until the next generation of games. Anything beyond that is just wishlisting.

Guy September 28th, 2009 8:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Greene1516 (Post 5166014)
No, we all know. There will be no new Pokemon until the next generation of games. Anything beyond that is just wishlisting.

I can agree on you that a fifth generation Pokémon making an appearance because of these items is highly unlikely. The games are more of a remake rather than a new generation on the whole. However, this wouldn't rule out the thought of a new forme for a certain Pokémon having a close relation to the Rock Capsule. Like the Gracidea Flower for Shaymin, this can easily lead to a new forme for another Pokémon. Which Pokémon it may be? I don't know, I'm just basing it all through theories.

rndm. September 28th, 2009 9:29 AM

A new forme also sounds like a good theory. But for what pokemon? There aren't many options imo.

Mew~ September 28th, 2009 9:47 AM

You know what i think? Its just an item that will never be used and is not supposed to be in the game! Take r/s/e they had that unused legendery dog remix music? Maybe they put it in the game but decided not to and forgot to remove it compleatley? Also, serebii says its rock capsule, but im not going to put too much trust in a fan site... no matter how good it is!

Mitchman September 28th, 2009 10:27 AM

It should have a purpose. Its not like its gotten in game from anyone. Its from a WiFi event. Its not possible they would program a WiFi event not to use it. The game has only what, 5 Pokewalker courses and that's it.

Guy September 28th, 2009 1:30 PM

A thought just hit me, and it may sound off, but it is just something I added up while reading through the past few pages. Seeing as this item may not be found within in-game play, but more so Wi-Fi handed event, then what if it had possible connections with Celebi and the later story of Giovanni. It is a Rock Capsule, kind of similar in a way to a Time Capsule which Celebi controls [time]. So, if this item was given out as a Wi-Fi event to unlock Celebi for capture and later add in depth to Giovanni's return, then I think it could possibly work out well. Again, this is simply an idea that came to mind and is highly unlikely [but we'll see].

Dr Gregory House September 28th, 2009 2:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Let's Get Lost Together. (Post 5166730)
A thought just hit me, and it may sound off, but it is just something I added up while reading through the past few pages. Seeing as this item may not be found within in-game play, but more so Wi-Fi handed event, then what if it had possible connections with Celebi and the later story of Giovanni. It is a Rock Capsule, kind of similar in a way to a Time Capsule which Celebi controls [time]. So, if this item was given out as a Wi-Fi event to unlock Celebi for capture and later add in depth to Giovanni's return, then I think it could possibly work out well. Again, this is simply an idea that came to mind and is highly unlikely [but we'll see].

It could be a replacement for the GS Ball?
Like, it being a 'lock' capsule it might contain something that awakens celebi that you must put into the shrine or something?

Guy September 28th, 2009 3:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Gregory House (Post 5167035)
It could be a replacement for the GS Ball?
Like, it being a 'lock' capsule it might contain something that awakens celebi that you must put into the shrine or something?

Or something of the sort, yes. I mean it is possible seeing as how nothing has went into detail between how to obtain Celebi as well as the Rock Capsule. So, the relation between the two allowing access to Giovanni in the past could work well, but again this is just by picking up two ends of a rope and putting them together. In other words, just relating to things within theory.

Tyrantrum September 28th, 2009 4:39 PM

Probably holds like a fossil fiber or something (like contains a Pokémon only found in fossils; Cranidos, Sheildon, Kabuto, Omanyte, Anorith, Lileep, and Aerodactyl ▬ you could pick anyone of these to be the fossil fiber and revive into that Pokémon?). Or possibly a really rare item that you can only get via that Lock capsule...

Mitchman September 28th, 2009 9:34 PM

The Celebi used by Serebii Joe was a hacked one made to have come from a movie ie:classic ribbon. As I have stated there is no text for the item in the game how to be unlocked so its most likely to be used in a future game some how. Wind you can get fossils from rock smashing all over the place. I have tons of fossils tell you the truth.

zoonsum September 29th, 2009 11:43 AM

Now i understand 90% of the whole scene.
Have you heard about the next pokemon game for wii?
Have you thought that the key to unlock the capsule may be found in this that game?
In other words you have to combine 2 items from 2 different games.
But it still remains a secret what is it purpose.

CrashmanX September 29th, 2009 2:11 PM

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Originally Posted by zoonsum (Post 5169055)
Now i understand 90% of the whole scene.
Have you heard about the next pokemon game for wii?
Have you thought that the key to unlock the capsule may be found in this that game?
In other words you have to combine 2 items from 2 different games.
But it still remains a secret what is it purpose.

Yea I supposed thats possible since the Wii game is Mystery Dungeon based.

YellowPen September 29th, 2009 9:17 PM

Im guessing its used for some sort of connection with the new PMD or a totally new game being developed.
Who knows, im just glad with all the hacking done, there is still mystery left on these games.

Dr Gregory House September 30th, 2009 1:19 AM

UPDATE:
I have recently obtained the ingame items Enigma Crystal and Lock Capsule.
But I don't know what to do with them.
I am going to try going to Silph Co. and to try and find steven stone...
yeah. XD

UPDATE: steven stone is in the museum now... but i don't know what to do as he won't say anything that's important?
I'm going to try taking my lati with me...
UPDATE: Oh and he's also at silph co. and he wants me to show him a pokemon...
UPDATE: And it doesn't seem like he wants my latios at the silph co so i'm gooing to try my hoenn starter...
UPDATE: ok i'm stumped with the silph co part atm so i'm going to try pewter museum.
UPDATE: So he's only at silph co now so i don't know what to do from there... i'll try elm.

Haza September 30th, 2009 1:30 AM

Homagawd! Im excited! XD It might just turn out to be nothing.

Dr Gregory House September 30th, 2009 1:33 AM

Tried Oak... nothing... trying Elm now...
I WISH I COULD READ JAP! XD

Argh, nothing. I'm totally stumped.

I'm going to try showing stephen my hoenn legendary that i caught...
actually, i'll go get rayquaza, then take both groudon and that.

UPDATE: Hoenn legendary didn't do it...

Okay, I'm totally stumped.
XD
would someone please download this pokesav and help out? please? (just for mod's sake, i'm not trying to advertise it) XD

Agh, I"m so retarded... that was just his beldum trade
but after that i'm going to do more research.

UPDATE: I'm going to try making mystery gift cards... see if that triggers anything... although... i dont actually know how to do that...

LilacLust September 30th, 2009 1:02 PM

On bulbapedia, it says that a new pokemon wii game is being developed, and i cant help but think that these items might have something to do with it. but, who knows :S

Guy October 1st, 2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Gregory House (Post 5171160)
UPDATE:
I have recently obtained the ingame items Enigma Crystal and Lock Capsule.
But I don't know what to do with them.
I am going to try going to Silph Co. and to try and find steven stone...
yeah. XD

UPDATE: steven stone is in the museum now... but i don't know what to do as he won't say anything that's important?
I'm going to try taking my lati with me...
UPDATE: Oh and he's also at silph co. and he wants me to show him a pokemon...
UPDATE: And it doesn't seem like he wants my latios at the silph co so i'm gooing to try my hoenn starter...
UPDATE: ok i'm stumped with the silph co part atm so i'm going to try pewter museum.
UPDATE: So he's only at silph co now so i don't know what to do from there... i'll try elm.

The Rock Capsule has nothing to do with Steven currently, but his location in Silph Co. is mainly for an in-game trade. If you bring him the Pokémon Forrestress, then he'll request a trade and he'll give you a Beldum. Hope that helps you continue on your investigation.

As for the new Wii Game said to come out, then yes, it could possibly have something to do with the Rock Capsule or even the Enigma Rock. We'll have to just wait and see as further information comes out.

PRIMALDIALGA999 December 19th, 2009 12:12 AM

hello im new to this but what if it changes regigigas for a new form like the gracedia that trans morphs shaymin???????

Gazuli god April 3rd, 2010 4:38 PM

3 theores
1) Something to do with tracks of light
2)Involves the evolution of magnaton into magnazone/Nosepas to Propobass
3) Something in RSE RM or 5th Gen

Guy April 3rd, 2010 4:42 PM

Please do not revive threads over a month old. We actually have an active discussion on the Rock Capsule going on over here that you may be interested in. :) It's always best you check the date of the last post made before replying to older threads.

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