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Cyndahog September 26th, 2009 11:41 AM

This seems unlikely, but it could be something to do with that machop building the house in Vermilion City.

rndm. September 26th, 2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CrashmanX (Post 5156329)
Actually this seems to make the most sense so far.

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 5156537)
That makes sense, but then why is it so closely related to WiFi? Couldn't this thing just be found regularly in the game at some point? Or perhaps it serves as a sort of vessel for the rocks, bringing them over from d/p/pt through WiFi. Umm, I guess I'm just going in circles with this now lol.

Other than that, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just some scrapped idea as someone else mentioned.

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Originally Posted by SilverSmeargleSplatter (Post 5156821)
rndm makes the most sense of it, but I checked the unobtainable Pokemon in HGSS on Serebii, and sure enough, all the Pokemon that evolve in those places are listed. That, unfortunately, disproves that theory.

Thanks guys...and girl. I'm flattered. ^_^

JP's vessel theory sounds good. When linked to DPPt, the Capsule would arrive automatically. ...But that's highly unlikely. As stated by SilverSmeargleSplatter, Serebii lists Magnezone, Probopass, Leafeon and Glaceon unobtainable. But what if they haven't tried hacking the Rock Capsule in and somehow interracting it with the four pokemon above? Well, if it worked, a line of text relating to it would probably have been found from the game's data.

Oh btw, I haven't seen Rock Capsule's in-game description on this thread. It's supposed to be this: "A tough capsule that must be opened with a special key." From Serebii's HG&SS Discovery thread. Coronis took that from the game's script.

iPochama September 26th, 2009 12:20 PM

Very early on it was brought up that mew, celebi, and jirachi are not connected to a rock, this is false. Anime Canon leads me to believe that Jirachi was from the 'Millennium Comet' and needed to be returned to a cave in a region that was previously believed to be hoenn until it was made clear that there was no jirachi event/location in r/s. Perhaps the region was johto/kanto? although, it could be completely non-game-canon, i.e the town in 'the rise of darkrai'

If it's a lock capsule, perhaps it's a non-sinnoh way to get rotom?

Mitchman September 26th, 2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by iPochama (Post 5157559)
Very early on it was brought up that mew, celebi, and jirachi are not connected to a rock, this is false. Anime Canon leads me to believe that Jirachi was from the 'Millennium Comet' and needed to be returned to a cave in a region that was previously believed to be hoenn until it was made clear that there was no jirachi event/location in r/s. Perhaps the region was johto/kanto? although, it could be completely non-game-canon, i.e the town in 'the rise of darkrai'

If it's a lock capsule, perhaps it's a non-sinnoh way to get rotom?

ANIME=/=GAMES. Completely seperate canons entirely.

Nope silph co. elevator activates Rotom.

iPochama September 26th, 2009 12:42 PM

There is so much anime canon featured in HG/SS. That was a silly thing to say.

..and, though Silph.CO elevator leads to the new forme change room, it does not lead to a Rotom, does it? I was saying that it may be like a part for the power plant that leads to a room where a Rotom is kept, I may remind you, Rotom is not legendary, rare, not legendary.

Circuit September 26th, 2009 1:30 PM

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Originally Posted by iPochama (Post 5157684)
There is so much anime canon featured in HG/SS. That was a silly thing to say.

..and, though Silph.CO elevator leads to the new forme change room, it does not lead to a Rotom, does it? I was saying that it may be like a part for the power plant that leads to a room where a Rotom is kept, I may remind you, Rotom is not legendary, rare, not legendary.

This could be it, but it again, maybe it's really wrong we'll just have to wait and see.

Dr Gregory House September 26th, 2009 4:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rndm. (Post 5155856)
My theory is that the Rock Capsule contains rocks from evolution places in Sinnoh. (=Moss, Icy and Coronet rocks?)

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 5156537)
That makes sense, but then why is it so closely related to WiFi? Couldn't this thing just be found regularly in the game at some point? Or perhaps it serves as a sort of vessel for the rocks, bringing them over from d/p/pt through WiFi. Umm, I guess I'm just going in circles with this now lol.
Other than that, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just some scrapped idea as someone else mentioned.


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Originally Posted by Cyndahog (Post 5157346)
This seems unlikely, but it could be something to do with that machop building the house in Vermilion City.

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Originally Posted by Flash! (Post 5157922)
This could be it, but it again, maybe it's really wrong, we'll just have to wait and see.


I love it how, when put in the right order, quotes just answer themselves :3

There's still no word on serebii.

Prof.Oak September 26th, 2009 9:48 PM

Probably some weird Robot part that goes on a futur pokemon that will be in the next saga..

Haza September 27th, 2009 2:06 AM

Strange that its so hard to figure out. I thought it was related to Latios & Latias. Maybe it could be the whole evoulutionary rock theory or something we havent even though of yet.

The Confuzzler September 27th, 2009 4:23 AM

Enigma Crystal for Soul Dew i'd wager.

Now, the Rock Capsule, maybe some sort of new Rock type legendary? Or a new Deoxys forme?

Tochukaso September 27th, 2009 4:33 AM

hmm... the lock capsule looks like something that silph. co would make, which means it probably has a useful or needed purpose, like the silph scope. in the last three years surely they must have invented something new?

The Confuzzler September 27th, 2009 4:34 AM

Yes, but i don't think they'd invent something that nobody knows how to work, would they? XD

level. September 27th, 2009 4:43 AM

Well, whatever it is, it will probably revealed next summer in the movie. Or maybe they'll reveal something else.

Tochukaso September 27th, 2009 5:27 AM

well it looks like something to do with silph. co... maybe if you go to them with it?

Dr Gregory House September 27th, 2009 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tochukaso (Post 5161126)
well it looks like something to do with silph. co... maybe if you go to them with it?

I had never thought of that... But it seems the most likely...
Them inventing all the technologically enhanced items and stuff...
If only someone could test this... :3

Greene1516 September 27th, 2009 5:42 PM

Why are people even bothering to suggest that they unlock new Pokemon, this is a remake and work on Gen. 5 hasn't openly begun yet; there are no new Pokemon to be had!

CrashmanX September 27th, 2009 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Greene1516 (Post 5164225)
Why are people even bothering to suggest that they unlock new Pokemon, this is a remake and work on Gen. 5 hasn't openly begun yet; there are no new Pokemon to be had!

As far as you know.

necessary characters.

Crystal-Heart September 27th, 2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rndm. (Post 5157351)
Oh btw, I haven't seen Rock Capsule's in-game description on this thread. It's supposed to be this: "A tough capsule that must be opened with a special key." From Serebii's HG&SS Discovery thread. Coronis took that from the game's script.

Hmm, that leads me to believe that the correct term for the item is "Lock Capsule" and not "Rock Capsule". Sadly, that only leaves us with the term Capsule to think of theories for. However, it says it must be opened with a "special key"..is there a Key-like item in the game's code to resonate with this? Based on its look, it probably has something to do with Silph Co. or some advanced (Alien) society.

Dr Gregory House September 27th, 2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crystal-Heart (Post 5164886)
Hmm, that leads me to believe that the correct term for the item is "Lock Capsule" and not "Rock Capsule". Sadly, that only leaves us with the term Capsule to think of theories for. However, it says it must be opened with a "special key"..is there a Key-like item in the game's code to resonate with this? Based on its look, it probably has something to do with Silph Co. or some advanced (Alien) society.

This is all starting to get a bit deep if you ask me. :3
I just wish we had some way of testing all of these theories... :(

On the "Special Key" bit though, if it really does require a key like that, similar to Rotom's forme change room unlockage in Platinum no doubt, then wouldn't they have to have 2 events? That would make it silly, so, maybe you get the key ingame from Silph Co. once they see that you have the Lock Capsule?

rndm. September 28th, 2009 4:14 AM

^ No, there's no key-like key items (lol) in the game, excluding the Underground Key of course. Which leads me to believe that a NPC opens the Capsule for you.

Mitchman September 28th, 2009 4:20 AM

Doubt anyone would open it for you in HGSS as no text for that has appeared. So its really truly a mystery.

ShinyMeganium September 28th, 2009 6:53 AM

Rock capsule might be a key item to evolve Pokemons you could once only evolve in locations in Sinnoh. Aka Mt. Coronet, Moss rock, etc.

Guy September 28th, 2009 8:32 AM

The Rock Capsule is what intrigues me the most in all of this. I mean it could possibly be for a future event to be held unlocking something within the game. Except the question that receeds is, what? Other than this, I would go with the evolutionary theory. Currently it is unknown on where one can evolve their Pokémon such as Nosepass with trading back to DPPt and the Rock Capsule sounds as though it can fulfill that exact purpose.

Again, it is left a mystery until farther looked into. Though, it can very well be an unincluded item within the game like what has before done before in previous games. This possibility hasn't left my thoughts as yet either.

Greene1516 September 28th, 2009 8:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CrashmanX (Post 5164451)
As far as you know.

necessary characters.

No, we all know. There will be no new Pokemon until the next generation of games. Anything beyond that is just wishlisting.

Guy September 28th, 2009 8:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Greene1516 (Post 5166014)
No, we all know. There will be no new Pokemon until the next generation of games. Anything beyond that is just wishlisting.

I can agree on you that a fifth generation Pokémon making an appearance because of these items is highly unlikely. The games are more of a remake rather than a new generation on the whole. However, this wouldn't rule out the thought of a new forme for a certain Pokémon having a close relation to the Rock Capsule. Like the Gracidea Flower for Shaymin, this can easily lead to a new forme for another Pokémon. Which Pokémon it may be? I don't know, I'm just basing it all through theories.


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