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Does anyone miss the Sevii Islands in HG/SS?
I've noticed that the Sevii Islands are not included in HG/SS, which is a shame to me. I thought HG/SS were supposed to be sequels of FR/LG and therefore was expecting to see the Sevii Islands. I'm a little bummed, but I still love the game.
What do you all think? Should they have included them or did they not serve any purpose? |
The inclusion of the Sevii Islands really depended on whether or not the games needed it from the start. For instance, after completing the main storyline of FRLG, there would have been nothing to do if the Sevii Islands weren't included. However, HeartGold and SoulSilver both extend from Johto into Kanto afterwards. So, any purpose that the Sevii Islands could have served within the game were simply implemented within after Elite Johto and Kanto. Not to mention, after the main storyline of Johto and Team Rocket what is now included within HGSS gives the player a lot more to do after the main plot has been completed.
So again, do I miss it seeing it has not made a return since FRLG? No. Why? It simply wasn't needed as it was for FRLG, and HeartGold and SoulSilver have included much more than the Sevii Islands had brought in before. |
They took them out? Thank God. They were stupid. Finding the Ruby and Sapphire so that you could trade with Ruby and Sapphire? Yeah, that's really creative.
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There might be nintendo events to get to the Islands. Who knows.
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I do miss them. Could make everything more organized. |
I miss them, but they were added in FireRed and LeafGreen so the player could have something to do after the game.
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There's not much land to explore on them, they contribute nothing to the plot, and you can't fly between them and the rest of the map. In all honesty, I don't care that they're missing.
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Well,I kinda miss em.It would be nicer to go up to Mt.Ember and catch Moltres instead of inside Mt.Silver,but oh well.
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In a way I kinda missed them since it did make the games a whole lot longer and some high level Pokemon were found there which help me raise my Pokemon
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Nah man, they sucked in FRLG
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I would have liked it if they were in the games, but Im not crying over it since they are not.
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I hated those Islands >=( Im glad there gone!!
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I really don't care one way or another. The only significance they might have played would be in explaining Lorelei's absence in HG/SS. It's not like they were significant otherwise, not to mention they served as fodder for some truly horrendous fan fiction, which already made me "strongly dislike" them.
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I miss them, they were really fun and added more to do to the game. Plus it would have been cool to see how the Rocket subplot had changed in HgSs, and if maybe it was still going in the Sevii Islands once again, and seeing how it changed.
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I didn't really care for the islands much... I'm kind of glad they arent in HG/SS.
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I hated the islands, the only reason I went to them was to trade with R/S, catch Moltres and get Cerulean Cave unlocked.
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Would have been nice if they were there just to be there, but since there not oh well. Also would have been nice if they went ahead and made the game a 256MB game and included extra areas like Sinnoh and Hoenn but thats nintendo for ya >_>
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And I do miss them, mainly for the experience... But I guess Kanto kept me going... for an extra 3 days at least... :3 |
I don't really miss them. It was cool that they were included in FRLG, but definitely not as cool as going to Kanto in GSC/HGSS. Most of the reason for the Sevii Islands was to catch Johto Pokemon and give the player something to do after the main storyline, as has been said, not to mention include some references to Johto & Generation II in general.
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If the Sevii Islands were brought back in the game, then it would have had to serve a different purpose than before. Team Rocket's plot there would have passed by as it occured nearly three years ago. As well as some of the building put up would have had to be altered, such as the Day Care or else the game would have included two [though you wouldn't see me complaining xD].
Anyhow, if it was brought back, then all the better, but again with Kanto being in, the Sevii Islands isn't much of a neccesity anymore. However, I would admit that there would have been some positive effects to the game if it were included like it was in FRLG. |
They were, quite frankly, the most unappealing and uninteresting thing that has ever happened to any pokemon game ever.
But yeah, I don't miss them one bit. |
No. They were like one huge water level, not to mention there really isn't any need for them since Red foiled Team Rocket's plan in FR/LG.
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I don't thnk it was necessary because all you had to do was find the ruby and sapphire stones to trade with hoenn. It woul'dnt make sense because we can migrate and use the global terminal.
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The Sevii Islands themselves wouldn't exactly be a major inclusion into HG/SS, since they were only required for catching some Johto Pokemon and enabling trade with the other Generation III games. They also provided an extension to FR/LG's main storyline, since there was only one short region to complete, and not much to do afterwards. In HG/SS, though, you have both Johto and Kanto to take your time with, therefore eliminating the need for any extension of the storyline. On top of that, all Johto Pokemon discoverable in the Sevii Islands are now found in Johto itself, so there's no need for the Pokemon either. I have to admit that it's pretty easy to finish Kanto, but there are plenty of rematches to do, as well as plenty of legendaries to find and catch for yourself. There's plenty to do after the Elite Four, therefore, the Sevii Islands would be a waste of game space, and they are something we could do without. |
The Sevi Ilands were boring and annoying to travel to. I didnt appreciate them then and I dont miss them now.
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Don't miss them at all, considering the Sevii Islands were pretty much "LOOK AT THIS WE COULD DO JOHTO INSTEAD BUT WE CAN'T BE BOTHERED."
I mean, same music AND Pokémon? Come on. |
The Sevii Islands pretty much set up the story for Johto, showing Team Rocket as being alive & well and still planning something, in this case, the Lake of Rage incident. As well as other references, like on pertaining to a certain Red Haired Kid.
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My opinion? Who really cares? They already added stuff not to do just after beating the elite four but Red himself. If they've already added that much, why add more? The only thing the sevii islands were truly included for other than a plot extension and Johto pokemon was the fact that the event islands (birth islands and navel rock) were there, believe it or not. I mean, come on! They got a lot of stuff, such as...(spoiler tag. Don't click if you don't want to know.)
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If you can't be happy with everything in the spoiler, then you obviously don't know a good pokemon game. |
No, I personally do not miss them.
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WAIT HOLD ON!!!
THEY COULD'VE BEEN IN THE GAME!! STOP THE SPOILERS!!! ah well whatever, i can live with spoilers. i think they should be in there. i mean when i played FR/LG i loved the sevii islands. well now im bummed. they shoulda been in there. |
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Yeah, i think it woulda been brilliant if we had the Sevii Islands, but meh, people still get angry there's not 4 regions in a game, don't they???
I'm more interested in whether they fixed the wobbling screens whenever you get on your bike or run that you had in D/P/Pt |
I do I do I do.
I enjoy islands in general. That's why I've always been hoping for a Orange League game, which most certainly will never be made. |
Not at all. I'm glad they didn't add them in. I think it would take away from the orginality of the GBC games.
.....and they were disappointing, for reasons others have already covered, and from the spoilers I've read, there is more than enough to do after the game. <----And that makes it a lot better, I think. :3 |
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but other than that, i dont rlly care. rofl. |
If any event were to be held needing to go back to any island within the game, then it may most likely be Birth Island and/or Naval Rock. The only reason being is for a held Mew and/or Deoxys event. However, I find the need of a Celebi event more fitting towards the games. Though, I doubt Sevii Islands would make an appearance as a whole for much of an event.
Like said it wasn't a needed location for the game and what could have been done there, was easily implemented on the returning Kanto. |
I was annoyed! I wanted a Larvitar when I got to the Kanto region so I don't have to wait all this time after beating the Elites the second time and the Sevii Islands weren't there.D:<
I hated that. They should have included them.n_n Oh well.D: |
I would have liked them in. It's really weird they're not in. I know people say they were needed to fill up the dex in LG and FR but in the end they were islands that were part of LG and FR. HG and SS feel like sequals to RBY more so than LG and FR to me. Yet they showed these were sequals of LG and FR when they were promoting them.
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If I go on another rant, forgive me. I just have a lot to say. |
If you mis the Sevii islands people, go play FR/LG again.
Because this is a G/S remake, not another R/B/Y remake. i hated the Sevii islands anyways. |
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EDIT: Hey, what do you know? I didn't go on another rant. |
actually, id rather not have them... it is supposed to be a g/s remake! anyway, the games are long enough without them!
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I don't miss the Sevii islands, but they should have expanded heart gold/ soul silvers campaign after johto
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I like HG/SS the way it is, I would be kinda pissed if they put the island in there, cause it'll be useless in the G/S remake. So basically I don't miss them in this game.
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Would anyone else be frustratedly disappointed if they entered the Kanto power plant and ... Although I'm not expecting the Sevii Islands to be in HG/SS, ... I can't wait too see the train animation! I've missed it since silver.......
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I really don't see a point in putting the Sevii Islands in.
As people have said, all they were was filler in order to place Johto Pokémon, and that stupid sidequest to be able to trade to Ruby and Sapphire. Which turns out to be useless unless you actually had a link cable and a friend who could actually be bothered to play with you. I'm glad they took them out. They just felt like a tacky add-on to me. |
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Yes, this rant was completely necessary. EDIT: Hey, I'm first person on the third page! |
I liked the Sevii Islands, had a lot of adventures on them (plenty of hours spent training Pokemon and vs. seekering), but at the same time, I can see why Nintendo got rid of them. After all, they were only there to give us access to Pokemon we couldn't get on the mainland. We've already established the fact that the GBA Slot will be in use for this game, giving us the ability to obtain Pokemon from Hoenn. Seeing as we're already in Johto and, eventually, Kanto, there's no need for the Sevii Islands. Unless they completely changed the purpose of them -- which would get rid of the need for them, in my opinion -- we can do without them.
Wireless = Diamond/Pearl/Platinum Pokemon. GBA Slot = FireRed and LeafGreen Pokemon that weren't in the Kanto/Johto regions to begin with. Also, we get the Hoenn Pokemon that weren't already in there (if any). All the basic neccessities are covered. To close out: we don't need the Sevii Islands because they're no longer of use to us. Amen. :) |
It would have been nice if they had given an explanation on why you couldn't go to sevi islands. You know keeping to the spirit of the original games. The original games explained everything that changed from RBY but HG and SS failed to explain everything from LG and FR.
This may not bother the older fanbase but I am thinking along the lines of the kids who played LG and FR first. I've already seen people ask what happened to sevi islands. I've even seen people ask where lorelei is aswell since she lived on the islands. Though I can make up an explanation on the spot that explains both. Strange that they couldn't do it unless there's some character somewhere in the game that's been missed explaining it. |
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Although in all honesty I really don't get why an explanation is needed. It's not like what happened to Cinnabar, Mt. Moon, or Viridian Forest in G/S/C. The islands are far south of Johto and Kanto. It's quite possible the player's never even heard of the islands. |
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As I feel compelled to say that the Sevii Islands really have no purpose in the game as some may think, it could at least for the most so far be mentioned to note its existence. Seeing as FRLG brought it into the game, I feel if it couldn't be brought into play, then it should have enough signification to be mentioned to those who appreciated it or would have liked it to be included.
Going with what Mitchman brought up on the Battle Frontier however, the islands could have been utilized for the Frontier rather than having it a simple flight a way. |
How can you miss something that wasn't originally implemented for the game?
Personally, I think the Sevii islands only works for FR/LG and wouldn't really work for HG/SS. Why? Well, we already have Kanto. What more do we need? |
Exactly why the heck would we want more! We alreade have Johto and Kanto so there is no other reason for it to be in the game.
Besides lorelie's explination where she went. |
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The Sevii Islands were lame. They were boring and there wasn't even climatic battles or bosses in them either. Just grunts, bikers, and scientists. Whoopty freaking doo.
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It would have been nice to have them, but it's not a huge loss.
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I don't, and I never liked those islands.
They were basically there for filler end-game material and dinky side quests just to trade with R/S. |
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I liked the Sevii Islands. They explained so much. They explained Lorelies disappearance in HGSS and partly who Silver was. It was also a great way to include other things, such as some Johto Pokemon and it was a bit more of a challenge because the Kanto Region was too easy and too fast.
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To be honest their is already alot to do in HG/SS. The Sevi island are a bit of waste seeing as there is already Kanto and Johto.
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The Sevii Islands served their purposed of extending a short game and making more as-of-then unobtainable Pokemon, obtainable. HGSS have a second region.
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What are you talking about? Sequel? They're remakes.
But, I probably wouldn't really mind if they were in the game. |
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Sequel of sorts. |
I miss the Sevii Islands.....sorta.
It was a new place, it had a new feel to it, but it has kinda become pointless now. It was mainly there to give the Johto pokemon a home with the lack of G/S/C. |
I know Sevii Islands were just added to advance FireRed/LeafGreen's story lines but I still love the islands to pieces and wish they were still there...
Then again, I'm not bored to pieces with them like most seeing as I've never figured out how to get past the start 3 islands until now. Ironically, I now cant defeat the elite 4... Oh well, Johto+Kanto is waaay more than enough for me ^-^ |
I actually enjoyed the Sevii Islands quite a bit, and I think it would have been an excellent addition to the new games.
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The only way I see the Sevii Islands being a benefit to the game and an actual needed necessity is if it played a strong plot after that of Johto's. To continue the exploration of the game that is and make Kanto part of it as it was in FRLG, but more, then maybe it could have been a plus for the game. However, seeing as they kept the game more to the originals with Kanto, then it obviously wasn't a needed factor to be put in. Regardless, the game was still rated an exceptional score before it came out and that was without the bonus of the Sevii Islands. So, because these islands were never in the games of GSC, you really can't miss what was never put in before.
Speaking hypothetically, ff they were to make another remake of RBYG and were not to include the Sevii Island like they did in FRLG, then yes, it could be missed as it was a new factor to those games and gave it something more. However, in this case it isn't the same. |
I'm more happy, i hated the things!
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Actually , they put it in FRLG so you'd do something after the game . In here , we alll have our loving Kanto , Red , Gym Rematches and E4 High Level Rematches AND Red Rematches .
Many Stuff to do , so nawpe , I don't miss them . ^_^ |
I liked the Sevii, but in HGSS it wouldnt have really the worked. I do wish Lorelei had made an appearance in HGSS but oh well.
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personally i think they should've been included, as hg/ss are sequels to fr/lg.. maybe with some expanded rocket stuff
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I thought that the Sevii Islands were cool.
But if they had been included, they probably could have provided a little more insight as to why the Indigo Elite Four disbanded. But maybe they will explian that anyway. The only thing that I did not like about Pokemon Gold and Silver. No original Elite Four. :( |
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On another note I didn't realize you needed the ruby/sapphire to trade until after I got them. ._. Because I technically just realized that now. >.> |
Personally, I'd rather they had been left in.
They were made part of Kanto's canon map, even though you had to take a cruiser to get to them, and as pointless as they would be, it'd be neat to see them in their "3 years later" state. That and, as stated before, we could see Lorelei after her Elite Four role. |
The only thing I miss really about them is the possible explanation to what the hell happened to Lorelei and Agatha (most likely Lorelei) since she isn't in the Elite Four anymore. That's was a pet peeve of mine when I first played the games and still is a pet peeve.
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Though I'm not getting HG/SS until the American release date, I'm not particularly sad to see the Sevii Islands go. After all, even if they were in, the most they'd do is explain the absence of Lorelei and Agatha. After all, they wouldn't bring anything else into the games aside from storyline and more locations for the same Pokemon. And Pokemon isn't known for the storylines. XD
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I'm kind of a person who thinks like "the more regions, the more places you could go and have an adventure, the better" when it comes to pokemon games/hacks.... So, I would definitely love sevii islands on HG/SS as well, regardless of how much they would be useful/how they were useless in fire red.... Maybe they would unlock after only when you beat red? Maybe they would feature hoenn pokemon on those areas? Maybe you could catch arceus on there? Who knows...... I think gamefreak could have done even more amazing things with all the potential on their hands, but they are just not using it, thinking minimalistic....
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