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Doxasikyrie September 27th, 2009 12:25 PM

Does anyone miss the Sevii Islands in HG/SS?
 
I've noticed that the Sevii Islands are not included in HG/SS, which is a shame to me. I thought HG/SS were supposed to be sequels of FR/LG and therefore was expecting to see the Sevii Islands. I'm a little bummed, but I still love the game.

What do you all think? Should they have included them or did they not serve any purpose?

Guy September 27th, 2009 12:41 PM

The inclusion of the Sevii Islands really depended on whether or not the games needed it from the start. For instance, after completing the main storyline of FRLG, there would have been nothing to do if the Sevii Islands weren't included. However, HeartGold and SoulSilver both extend from Johto into Kanto afterwards. So, any purpose that the Sevii Islands could have served within the game were simply implemented within after Elite Johto and Kanto. Not to mention, after the main storyline of Johto and Team Rocket what is now included within HGSS gives the player a lot more to do after the main plot has been completed.

So again, do I miss it seeing it has not made a return since FRLG? No. Why? It simply wasn't needed as it was for FRLG, and HeartGold and SoulSilver have included much more than the Sevii Islands had brought in before.

Sydian September 27th, 2009 12:43 PM

They took them out? Thank God. They were stupid. Finding the Ruby and Sapphire so that you could trade with Ruby and Sapphire? Yeah, that's really creative.

Sasuke. September 27th, 2009 1:12 PM

There might be nintendo events to get to the Islands. Who knows.

ShinyMeganium September 27th, 2009 1:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AeroKuragari (Post 5163170)
There might be nintendo events to get to the Islands. Who knows.

Nah. Over 7 complete towns to be unlocked by a single Nintendo event?

I do miss them. Could make everything more organized.

Pyrax September 27th, 2009 1:22 PM

I miss them, but they were added in FireRed and LeafGreen so the player could have something to do after the game.

Jack Surge September 27th, 2009 2:30 PM

There's not much land to explore on them, they contribute nothing to the plot, and you can't fly between them and the rest of the map. In all honesty, I don't care that they're missing.

Blaziquaza September 27th, 2009 2:32 PM

Well,I kinda miss em.It would be nicer to go up to Mt.Ember and catch Moltres instead of inside Mt.Silver,but oh well.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ September 27th, 2009 2:40 PM

In a way I kinda missed them since it did make the games a whole lot longer and some high level Pokemon were found there which help me raise my Pokemon


:t354:TG

DeeJayFusion September 27th, 2009 2:44 PM

Nah man, they sucked in FRLG

Lady Gaga September 27th, 2009 2:50 PM

I would have liked it if they were in the games, but Im not crying over it since they are not.

xXI JOE IXx September 27th, 2009 2:53 PM

I hated those Islands >=( Im glad there gone!!

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ September 27th, 2009 2:54 PM

I really don't care one way or another. The only significance they might have played would be in explaining Lorelei's absence in HG/SS. It's not like they were significant otherwise, not to mention they served as fodder for some truly horrendous fan fiction, which already made me "strongly dislike" them.

Ellie September 27th, 2009 3:13 PM

I miss them, they were really fun and added more to do to the game. Plus it would have been cool to see how the Rocket subplot had changed in HgSs, and if maybe it was still going in the Sevii Islands once again, and seeing how it changed.

mikey September 27th, 2009 4:05 PM

I didn't really care for the islands much... I'm kind of glad they arent in HG/SS.

Wings Don't Cry September 27th, 2009 4:32 PM

I hated the islands, the only reason I went to them was to trade with R/S, catch Moltres and get Cerulean Cave unlocked.

CrashmanX September 27th, 2009 4:41 PM

Would have been nice if they were there just to be there, but since there not oh well. Also would have been nice if they went ahead and made the game a 256MB game and included extra areas like Sinnoh and Hoenn but thats nintendo for ya >_>

Dr Gregory House September 27th, 2009 5:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrashmanX (Post 5163972)
Would have been nice if they were there just to be there, but since there not oh well. Also would have been nice if they went ahead and made the game a 256MB game and included extra areas like Sinnoh and Hoenn but thats nintendo for ya >_>

Lol then good luck buying the game at the retail price of $45... lol.
And I do miss them, mainly for the experience... But I guess Kanto kept me going... for an extra 3 days at least...
:3

Crystal-Heart September 27th, 2009 5:34 PM

I don't really miss them. It was cool that they were included in FRLG, but definitely not as cool as going to Kanto in GSC/HGSS. Most of the reason for the Sevii Islands was to catch Johto Pokemon and give the player something to do after the main storyline, as has been said, not to mention include some references to Johto & Generation II in general.

Guy September 27th, 2009 6:06 PM

If the Sevii Islands were brought back in the game, then it would have had to serve a different purpose than before. Team Rocket's plot there would have passed by as it occured nearly three years ago. As well as some of the building put up would have had to be altered, such as the Day Care or else the game would have included two [though you wouldn't see me complaining xD].

Anyhow, if it was brought back, then all the better, but again with Kanto being in, the Sevii Islands isn't much of a neccesity anymore. However, I would admit that there would have been some positive effects to the game if it were included like it was in FRLG.

Cello September 27th, 2009 6:12 PM

They were, quite frankly, the most unappealing and uninteresting thing that has ever happened to any pokemon game ever.

But yeah, I don't miss them one bit.

Star★Seeker September 27th, 2009 6:19 PM

No. They were like one huge water level, not to mention there really isn't any need for them since Red foiled Team Rocket's plan in FR/LG.

Phoenix_Wright September 27th, 2009 6:37 PM

I don't thnk it was necessary because all you had to do was find the ruby and sapphire stones to trade with hoenn. It woul'dnt make sense because we can migrate and use the global terminal.

s0nido September 27th, 2009 7:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSmeargleSplatter (Post 5163069)
They took them out? Thank God. They were stupid. Finding the Ruby and Sapphire so that you could trade with Ruby and Sapphire? Yeah, that's really creative.

That was so annoying it hurt. Seriously, it took me ages to find those stupid gems. Seriously, why did they have to include Braille and all these other annoying things?

The Sevii Islands themselves wouldn't exactly be a major inclusion into HG/SS, since they were only required for catching some Johto Pokemon and enabling trade with the other Generation III games.

They also provided an extension to FR/LG's main storyline, since there was only one short region to complete, and not much to do afterwards. In HG/SS, though, you have both Johto and Kanto to take your time with, therefore eliminating the need for any extension of the storyline. On top of that, all Johto Pokemon discoverable in the Sevii Islands are now found in Johto itself, so there's no need for the Pokemon either.

I have to admit that it's pretty easy to finish Kanto, but there are plenty of rematches to do, as well as plenty of legendaries to find and catch for yourself. There's plenty to do after the Elite Four, therefore, the Sevii Islands would be a waste of game space, and they are something we could do without.

Haza September 27th, 2009 9:45 PM

The Sevi Ilands were boring and annoying to travel to. I didnt appreciate them then and I dont miss them now.

Finnel September 27th, 2009 9:48 PM

Don't miss them at all, considering the Sevii Islands were pretty much "LOOK AT THIS WE COULD DO JOHTO INSTEAD BUT WE CAN'T BE BOTHERED."

I mean, same music AND Pokémon? Come on.

Crystal-Heart September 27th, 2009 10:32 PM

The Sevii Islands pretty much set up the story for Johto, showing Team Rocket as being alive & well and still planning something, in this case, the Lake of Rage incident. As well as other references, like on pertaining to a certain Red Haired Kid.

PokemonMasterX September 28th, 2009 4:01 PM

My opinion? Who really cares? They already added stuff not to do just after beating the elite four but Red himself. If they've already added that much, why add more? The only thing the sevii islands were truly included for other than a plot extension and Johto pokemon was the fact that the event islands (birth islands and navel rock) were there, believe it or not. I mean, come on! They got a lot of stuff, such as...(spoiler tag. Don't click if you don't want to know.)
Spoiler:
the inclusion of the legendary birds, remakes of the easier gyms to be harder, cerulean cave (which means mewtwo), groudon in soulsilver and kyogre in heartgold, rayquaza in both. Plus you can do reamatches with all 16 gym leaders, as well as get the uber pickachu in pokewalker (knows fly, volt tackle, and surf), and you still have Ho-oh and/or Lugia, Entei and Raikou, and Suicune has a chasing event even longer and more complicated than crystals. Plus you have the pokethlon dome and the arceus event in there (different than what you probably think). And they STILL retain everything, if not more, form the good old days. Not only that, but almost all former champions appear, including steven, who gives you a choice of one of the three hoenn starters, and professor oak does the same with the kanto starters. The battle frontier is there (no there is absolutely no difference from platinum in any way), and i forgot to add the spiky eared pichu event.

If you can't be happy with everything in the spoiler, then you obviously don't know a good pokemon game.

WindBlows September 28th, 2009 4:27 PM

No, I personally do not miss them.

sanny the hedgehog September 28th, 2009 4:31 PM

WAIT HOLD ON!!!
THEY COULD'VE BEEN IN THE GAME!!
STOP THE SPOILERS!!!
ah well whatever, i can live with spoilers.
i think they should be in there.
i mean when i played FR/LG i loved the sevii islands.

well now im bummed.
they shoulda been in there.

xXI JOE IXx September 29th, 2009 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sanny the hedgehog (Post 5167383)
WAIT HOLD ON!!!
THEY COULD'VE BEEN IN THE GAME!!
STOP THE SPOILERS!!!
ah well whatever, i can live with spoilers.
i think they should be in there.
i mean when i played FR/LG i loved the sevii islands.

well now im bummed.
they shoulda been in there.

They were put in the games to give the player something to do after the elite four, but in HG/SS we have kanto. So they aren't really needed

Amore September 29th, 2009 10:13 AM

Yeah, i think it woulda been brilliant if we had the Sevii Islands, but meh, people still get angry there's not 4 regions in a game, don't they???

I'm more interested in whether they fixed the wobbling screens whenever you get on your bike or run that you had in D/P/Pt

rndm. September 29th, 2009 11:04 AM

I do I do I do.

I enjoy islands in general. That's why I've always been hoping for a Orange League game, which most certainly will never be made.

Sotto Voce September 29th, 2009 2:29 PM

Not at all. I'm glad they didn't add them in. I think it would take away from the orginality of the GBC games.
.....and they were disappointing, for reasons others have already covered, and from the spoilers I've read, there is more than enough to do after the game. <----And that makes it a lot better, I think. :3

Kotone September 29th, 2009 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AeroKuragari (Post 5163170)
There might be nintendo events to get to the Islands. Who knows.

that's what i was thinking,
but other than that,
i dont rlly care.
rofl.

Guy September 29th, 2009 3:29 PM

If any event were to be held needing to go back to any island within the game, then it may most likely be Birth Island and/or Naval Rock. The only reason being is for a held Mew and/or Deoxys event. However, I find the need of a Celebi event more fitting towards the games. Though, I doubt Sevii Islands would make an appearance as a whole for much of an event.

Like said it wasn't a needed location for the game and what could have been done there, was easily implemented on the returning Kanto.

.Chocolate. September 29th, 2009 3:48 PM

I was annoyed! I wanted a Larvitar when I got to the Kanto region so I don't have to wait all this time after beating the Elites the second time and the Sevii Islands weren't there.D:<
I hated that. They should have included them.n_n Oh well.D:

The Power of Pika September 30th, 2009 7:22 AM

I would have liked them in. It's really weird they're not in. I know people say they were needed to fill up the dex in LG and FR but in the end they were islands that were part of LG and FR. HG and SS feel like sequals to RBY more so than LG and FR to me. Yet they showed these were sequals of LG and FR when they were promoting them.

PokemonMasterX September 30th, 2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Power of Pika (Post 5171664)
I would have liked them in. It's really weird they're not in. I know people say they were needed to fill up the dex in LG and FR but in the end they were islands that were part of LG and FR. HG and SS feel like sequals to RBY more so than LG and FR to me. Yet they showed these were sequals of LG and FR when they were promoting them.

They're only counted as sequels because they're remakes of Gold and Silver, which were sequels of Red and Blue(or Red and Green if you live in Japan), whose remakes were FR & LG. Therefore, the remakes are related in the same way the originals were. Plus, the Sevii Islands were and add on for completing the pokedex as well as something to do after the game was beaten. Plus, it was the only way to obtain johto pokemon that weren't already planned for emerald, meaning that since you can get said Johto pokemon, you don't need the sevii islands. That's not to say there aren't extra areas in Johto, though. For each of the remkae sets they include the things that were missing. Red and Blue/Green lacked somthing to do after you beat the Elite Four, and Gold and Silver lacked things such as the Safari Zone and Somthing to do after you Beat Red, which they included in each, meaning the sevii islands would simply take up space. Also, what would you do with the sevii elements that were implemented to add what was in the games after Red and Blue/Green, such as the Day Care on Four island, the Tanoby Ruins on Seven Island, or Trainer Tower(counterpart of Battle Tower), Also on Seven Island?

If I go on another rant, forgive me. I just have a lot to say.

WisherWisherWish September 30th, 2009 10:40 AM

If you mis the Sevii islands people, go play FR/LG again.

Because this is a G/S remake, not another R/B/Y remake.

i hated the Sevii islands anyways.

PokemonMasterX September 30th, 2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WisherWisherWish (Post 5172059)
If you mis the Sevii islands people, go play FR/LG again.

Because this is a G/S remake, not another R/B/Y remake.

i hated the Sevii islands anyways.

Spoken like a true Gold and Silver fan.

EDIT: Hey, what do you know? I didn't go on another rant.

skyluigi2 September 30th, 2009 11:59 AM

actually, id rather not have them... it is supposed to be a g/s remake! anyway, the games are long enough without them!

xXI JOE IXx September 30th, 2009 12:04 PM

I don't miss the Sevii islands, but they should have expanded heart gold/ soul silvers campaign after johto

Eggie Poo Poo September 30th, 2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Doxasikyrie (Post 5162982)
I thought HG/SS were supposed to be sequels of FR/LG

When was that ever established?

Mitchman September 30th, 2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Eggie Poo Poo (Post 5172343)
When was that ever established?

When the company said it themselves. Not to mention they have hints to rocket being beaten by a kid and the story of FR/LG being posted on the HGSS site. Which is ultimately why I'm bothered with the lack of islands. IF established to be a follow up to a game, and one area of the previous game is to be in, the main assumption is the other will too.

ソラ September 30th, 2009 12:54 PM

I like HG/SS the way it is, I would be kinda pissed if they put the island in there, cause it'll be useless in the G/S remake. So basically I don't miss them in this game.

Eggie Poo Poo September 30th, 2009 6:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchman (Post 5172351)

When the company said it themselves. Not to mention they have hints to rocket being beaten by a kid and the story of FR/LG being posted on the HGSS site. Which is ultimately why I'm bothered with the lack of islands. IF established to be a follow up to a game, and one area of the previous game is to be in, the main assumption is the other will too.

The rest you said are valid points, but the "being beaten by a kid" can also mean R/B/Y, because you played a "kid" and beat Team Rocket. Also remember the G/S universe takes place a few years after R/B/Y, as would HG/SS, and if following your logic should take place a few years after FR/LG, and that way anything could have happened to the Sevii Islands in that time, and also think that there are no errands you need to do there, Nintendo never makes regions without errands to do ...

deanhanson October 1st, 2009 12:41 AM

Would anyone else be frustratedly disappointed if they entered the Kanto power plant and ... Although I'm not expecting the Sevii Islands to be in HG/SS, ... I can't wait too see the train animation! I've missed it since silver.......

Mitchman October 1st, 2009 1:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Eggie Poo Poo (Post 5173457)
The rest you said are valid points, but the "being beaten by a kid" can also mean R/B/Y, because you played a "kid" and beat Team Rocket. Also remember the G/S universe takes place a few years after R/B/Y, as would HG/SS, and if following your logic should take place a few years after FR/LG, and that way anything could have happened to the Sevii Islands in that time, and also think that there are no errands you need to do there, Nintendo never makes regions without errands to do ...

HGSS replaces GSC as the canon games as did FR/LG. Its common knowledge by know that HGSS would take place after FR/LG what with the aging of the Kanto leaders and its changes. With the Sevii Islands much more could have been done with them. Seeing how 3 years passed a frontier could have been situtated there or even one facility on each islands or something. Hell they could have put gyms and new leaders for the islands as technically its a region of sorts. I'm pretty much upset that they made the islands disappear and that Leaf isn't anywhere to be seen.

Akeraz October 1st, 2009 12:24 PM

I really don't see a point in putting the Sevii Islands in.
As people have said, all they were was filler in order to place Johto Pokémon, and that stupid sidequest to be able to trade to Ruby and Sapphire.
Which turns out to be useless unless you actually had a link cable and a friend who could actually be bothered to play with you.
I'm glad they took them out.
They just felt like a tacky add-on to me.

PokemonMasterX October 1st, 2009 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchman (Post 5174018)
HGSS replaces GSC as the canon games as did FR/LG. Its common knowledge by know that HGSS would take place after FR/LG what with the aging of the Kanto leaders and its changes. With the Sevii Islands much more could have been done with them. Seeing how 3 years passed a frontier could have been situtated there or even one facility on each islands or something. Hell they could have put gyms and new leaders for the islands as technically its a region of sorts. I'm pretty much upset that they made the islands disappear and that Leaf isn't anywhere to be seen.

Why? What would you possibly put in there that didn't already exist in Johto or Kanto? And for the love of God, do NOT say the battle frontier! That's where the battle tower was situated in crystal and it deserves to be there. And since there are seven islands the gyms wouldn't work. And who really cares about leaf? She, just like Kris, was an add-on for female fans. This is mainly a G/S Remake, so they don't need the female from crystal in there, just like they don't need leaf. Go with the current add-ons and quit whining.

Yes, this rant was completely necessary.

EDIT: Hey, I'm first person on the third page!

IndigoPlateau October 1st, 2009 7:38 PM

I liked the Sevii Islands, had a lot of adventures on them (plenty of hours spent training Pokemon and vs. seekering), but at the same time, I can see why Nintendo got rid of them. After all, they were only there to give us access to Pokemon we couldn't get on the mainland. We've already established the fact that the GBA Slot will be in use for this game, giving us the ability to obtain Pokemon from Hoenn. Seeing as we're already in Johto and, eventually, Kanto, there's no need for the Sevii Islands. Unless they completely changed the purpose of them -- which would get rid of the need for them, in my opinion -- we can do without them.

Wireless = Diamond/Pearl/Platinum Pokemon.
GBA Slot = FireRed and LeafGreen Pokemon that weren't in the Kanto/Johto regions to begin with. Also, we get the Hoenn Pokemon that weren't already in there (if any).

All the basic neccessities are covered.

To close out: we don't need the Sevii Islands because they're no longer of use to us.

Amen. :)

The Power of Pika October 1st, 2009 8:54 PM

It would have been nice if they had given an explanation on why you couldn't go to sevi islands. You know keeping to the spirit of the original games. The original games explained everything that changed from RBY but HG and SS failed to explain everything from LG and FR.

This may not bother the older fanbase but I am thinking along the lines of the kids who played LG and FR first.

I've already seen people ask what happened to sevi islands. I've even seen people ask where lorelei is aswell since she lived on the islands.

Though I can make up an explanation on the spot that explains both. Strange that they couldn't do it unless there's some character somewhere in the game that's been missed explaining it.

"Shadow Lugia" October 2nd, 2009 8:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Power of Pika (Post 5176409)
It would have been nice if they had given an explanation on why you couldn't go to sevi islands. You know keeping to the spirit of the original games. The original games explained everything that changed from RBY but HG and SS failed to explain everything from LG and FR.

This may not bother the older fanbase but I am thinking along the lines of the kids who played LG and FR first.

I've already seen people ask what happened to sevi islands. I've even seen people ask where lorelei is aswell since she lived on the islands.

Though I can make up an explanation on the spot that explains both. Strange that they couldn't do it unless there's some character somewhere in the game that's been missed explaining it.

Considering that few people here actually speak Japanese, it's possible that their absense was explained at one point in HG/SS's text.

Although in all honesty I really don't get why an explanation is needed. It's not like what happened to Cinnabar, Mt. Moon, or Viridian Forest in G/S/C. The islands are far south of Johto and Kanto. It's quite possible the player's never even heard of the islands.

Mitchman October 2nd, 2009 8:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PokemonMasterX (Post 5175665)
Why? What would you possibly put in there that didn't already exist in Johto or Kanto? And for the love of God, do NOT say the battle frontier! That's where the battle tower was situated in crystal and it deserves to be there. And since there are seven islands the gyms wouldn't work. And who really cares about leaf? She, just like Kris, was an add-on for female fans. This is mainly a G/S Remake, so they don't need the female from crystal in there, just like they don't need leaf. Go with the current add-ons and quit whining.

Yes, this rant was completely necessary.

EDIT: Hey, I'm first person on the third page!

While this is a GSC remake they deserve to be in there as much as Kanto does. A lot of things story wise could have made sense, and while the battle tower was situated there in Crystal I honestly do not like it there as if they don't have anywhere else to put it. The frontier is a frontier for a reason: for the greatest trainers to travel there and test there skills, not to fly to a city and test their skills. I honestly feel they lost so much potential with story and features leaving out the Sevii islands.

Guy October 2nd, 2009 9:28 AM

As I feel compelled to say that the Sevii Islands really have no purpose in the game as some may think, it could at least for the most so far be mentioned to note its existence. Seeing as FRLG brought it into the game, I feel if it couldn't be brought into play, then it should have enough signification to be mentioned to those who appreciated it or would have liked it to be included.

Going with what Mitchman brought up on the Battle Frontier however, the islands could have been utilized for the Frontier rather than having it a simple flight a way.

Serene Grace October 2nd, 2009 9:41 AM

How can you miss something that wasn't originally implemented for the game?

Personally, I think the Sevii islands only works for FR/LG and wouldn't really work for HG/SS. Why? Well, we already have Kanto. What more do we need?

HeartGold95 October 2nd, 2009 11:24 AM

Exactly why the heck would we want more! We alreade have Johto and Kanto so there is no other reason for it to be in the game.
Besides lorelie's explination where she went.

PokemonMasterX October 2nd, 2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchman (Post 5177322)
While this is a GSC remake they deserve to be in there as much as Kanto does. A lot of things story wise could have made sense, and while the battle tower was situated there in Crystal I honestly do not like it there as if they don't have anywhere else to put it. The frontier is a frontier for a reason: for the greatest trainers to travel there and test there skills, not to fly to a city and test their skills. I honestly feel they lost so much potential with story and features leaving out the Sevii islands.

The problem is that as i said earlier where would you put the facilities that were included to give FR and LG the same abilities as any other game? A majority of them are already in Johto and Kanto, meaning you would have nothing to do on the islands in these games. Yes, it could explain Lorelei's absence, but don't forget that Agitha is missing as well. Besides, since the battle frontier is a dead look-alike of Platinum's, that would only take care of one of the islands. Add the Lorelei backstory, Moltres on Mt. Ember, and maybe the Pokethlon Dome, and you have fourislands taken care of. So what about the other three? I'm not saying they shouldn't be in there, but why should they be in there when they no longer serve a purpose.

Ya know, I really wonder why I'm the guy writing these long posts.

Lord Yawgmoth October 3rd, 2009 12:07 PM

The Sevii Islands were lame. They were boring and there wasn't even climatic battles or bosses in them either. Just grunts, bikers, and scientists. Whoopty freaking doo.

TheDude5000 October 3rd, 2009 3:48 PM

It would have been nice to have them, but it's not a huge loss.

Poliwagged October 5th, 2009 1:49 PM

I don't, and I never liked those islands.

They were basically there for filler end-game material and dinky side quests just to trade with R/S.

PokemonMasterX October 5th, 2009 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Yawgmoth (Post 5181064)
The Sevii Islands were lame. They were boring and there wasn't even climatic battles or bosses in them either. Just grunts, bikers, and scientists. Whoopty freaking doo.

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Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 5189161)
THANK YOU.

You have said everything I wanted to say.

The Sevii Islands don't deserve to be in these EPIC remakes. They were a waste of time, and not even memorable. I couldn't wait until I beat the islands so I could finally trade with RSE. I'm glad they didn't bring back those islands.

The Sevii islands were only there for Johto Pokemon seeing as it wasn't compatible with GSC. Now, we have the actual Johto region to play in, so no need for the islands. HGSS is compatible with RSE and DPPt, so there goes the idea of putting those Pokemon on the islands.

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Originally Posted by Poliwagged (Post 5189185)
I don't, and I never liked those islands.

They were basically there for filler end-game material and dinky side quests just to trade with R/S.

Ya know, I was trying to be nice, but these guys put the real point as to why the sevii islands weren't needed. They're filler on which you do next to nothing. EVERYTHING you could do on the islands is possible in HG/SS, quite frankly in Johto alone (not all of it, of course).

PKFL_531 October 5th, 2009 5:43 PM

I liked the Sevii Islands. They explained so much. They explained Lorelies disappearance in HGSS and partly who Silver was. It was also a great way to include other things, such as some Johto Pokemon and it was a bit more of a challenge because the Kanto Region was too easy and too fast.

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Pikachu™ October 6th, 2009 11:39 AM

To be honest their is already alot to do in HG/SS. The Sevi island are a bit of waste seeing as there is already Kanto and Johto.

Myles October 6th, 2009 1:37 PM

The Sevii Islands served their purposed of extending a short game and making more as-of-then unobtainable Pokemon, obtainable. HGSS have a second region.

Guy October 6th, 2009 3:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HeartGold95 (Post 5177600)
Exactly why the heck would we want more! We alreade have Johto and Kanto so there is no other reason for it to be in the game.
Besides lorelie's explination where she went.

To add in besides there being just Johto and Kanto, there is also the Battle Frontier included. Yes, a simple flight away, but still there nonethless serving the same purpose without the help of Seven individual islands.

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Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5191955)
The Sevii Islands served their purposed of extending a short game and making more as-of-then unobtainable Pokemon, obtainable. HGSS have a second region.

The Sevii Islands served their purpose for FireRed and LeafGreen like said and its purpose in HeartGold and SoulSilver would only be an extention unneeded.

Myles October 6th, 2009 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Let's Get Lost Together. (Post 5192310)
The Sevii Islands served their purpose for FireRed and LeafGreen like said and its purpose in HeartGold and SoulSilver would only be an extention unneeded.

Like I said, HGSS has a second region. It would be way too much to have the Sevii Islands too.

Tyrantrum October 6th, 2009 7:34 PM

What are you talking about? Sequel? They're remakes.

But, I probably wouldn't really mind if they were in the game.

Myles October 6th, 2009 7:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind~ (Post 5192891)
What are you talking about? Sequel? They're remakes.

Everyone considered GSC sequels to RGBY (which they kind of were, with the whole advancing Kanto storyline and the appearnce of Red and Blue). So by extension people seem to think HGSS is a sequel to FRLG.

Poliwagged October 6th, 2009 9:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind~ (Post 5192891)
What are you talking about? Sequel? They're remakes.

But, I probably wouldn't really mind if they were in the game.

"Three years ago, team rocket was defeated by some kid named RED"


Sequel of sorts.

GengarNightmare October 8th, 2009 1:56 PM

I miss the Sevii Islands.....sorta.

It was a new place, it had a new feel to it, but it has kinda become pointless now. It was mainly there to give the Johto pokemon a home with the lack of G/S/C.

Lunafloon October 13th, 2009 6:43 AM

I know Sevii Islands were just added to advance FireRed/LeafGreen's story lines but I still love the islands to pieces and wish they were still there...
Then again, I'm not bored to pieces with them like most seeing as I've never figured out how to get past the start 3 islands until now. Ironically, I now cant defeat the elite 4...

Oh well, Johto+Kanto is waaay more than enough for me ^-^

Yuoaman October 13th, 2009 4:16 PM

I actually enjoyed the Sevii Islands quite a bit, and I think it would have been an excellent addition to the new games.

Guy October 15th, 2009 6:35 AM

The only way I see the Sevii Islands being a benefit to the game and an actual needed necessity is if it played a strong plot after that of Johto's. To continue the exploration of the game that is and make Kanto part of it as it was in FRLG, but more, then maybe it could have been a plus for the game. However, seeing as they kept the game more to the originals with Kanto, then it obviously wasn't a needed factor to be put in. Regardless, the game was still rated an exceptional score before it came out and that was without the bonus of the Sevii Islands. So, because these islands were never in the games of GSC, you really can't miss what was never put in before.

Speaking hypothetically, ff they were to make another remake of RBYG and were not to include the Sevii Island like they did in FRLG, then yes, it could be missed as it was a new factor to those games and gave it something more. However, in this case it isn't the same.

MiniEggs October 16th, 2009 3:25 AM

I'm more happy, i hated the things!

560cool. October 16th, 2009 11:29 AM

Actually , they put it in FRLG so you'd do something after the game . In here , we alll have our loving Kanto , Red , Gym Rematches and E4 High Level Rematches AND Red Rematches .
Many Stuff to do , so nawpe , I don't miss them . ^_^

sirboulevard October 19th, 2009 6:37 PM

I liked the Sevii, but in HGSS it wouldnt have really the worked. I do wish Lorelei had made an appearance in HGSS but oh well.

Ryanniny October 19th, 2009 11:43 PM

personally i think they should've been included, as hg/ss are sequels to fr/lg.. maybe with some expanded rocket stuff

SprainedKhyber October 20th, 2009 5:08 AM

I thought that the Sevii Islands were cool.

But if they had been included, they probably could have provided a little more insight as to why the Indigo Elite Four disbanded. But maybe they will explian that anyway.

The only thing that I did not like about Pokemon Gold and Silver. No original Elite Four. :(

Dawn October 20th, 2009 7:54 AM

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Originally Posted by xXI JOE IXx (Post 5168857)
They were put in the games to give the player something to do after the elite four, but in HG/SS we have kanto. So they aren't really needed

Minimalism in terms of game content is something rarely appreciated in video games.

On another note I didn't realize you needed the ruby/sapphire to trade until after I got them. ._. Because I technically just realized that now. >.>

Trainer Trance October 20th, 2009 8:09 AM

Personally, I'd rather they had been left in.

They were made part of Kanto's canon map, even though you had to take a cruiser to get to them, and as pointless as they would be, it'd be neat to see them in their "3 years later" state.

That and, as stated before, we could see Lorelei after her Elite Four role.

Star Girl October 20th, 2009 3:55 PM

The only thing I miss really about them is the possible explanation to what the hell happened to Lorelei and Agatha (most likely Lorelei) since she isn't in the Elite Four anymore. That's was a pet peeve of mine when I first played the games and still is a pet peeve.

encas October 20th, 2009 5:03 PM

Though I'm not getting HG/SS until the American release date, I'm not particularly sad to see the Sevii Islands go. After all, even if they were in, the most they'd do is explain the absence of Lorelei and Agatha. After all, they wouldn't bring anything else into the games aside from storyline and more locations for the same Pokemon. And Pokemon isn't known for the storylines. XD

Erenussocrates October 4th, 2014 7:49 AM

I'm kind of a person who thinks like "the more regions, the more places you could go and have an adventure, the better" when it comes to pokemon games/hacks.... So, I would definitely love sevii islands on HG/SS as well, regardless of how much they would be useful/how they were useless in fire red.... Maybe they would unlock after only when you beat red? Maybe they would feature hoenn pokemon on those areas? Maybe you could catch arceus on there? Who knows...... I think gamefreak could have done even more amazing things with all the potential on their hands, but they are just not using it, thinking minimalistic....

Astinus October 4th, 2014 8:56 AM

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