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Finnel September 27th, 2009 9:48 PM

Don't miss them at all, considering the Sevii Islands were pretty much "LOOK AT THIS WE COULD DO JOHTO INSTEAD BUT WE CAN'T BE BOTHERED."

I mean, same music AND Pokémon? Come on.

Crystal-Heart September 27th, 2009 10:32 PM

The Sevii Islands pretty much set up the story for Johto, showing Team Rocket as being alive & well and still planning something, in this case, the Lake of Rage incident. As well as other references, like on pertaining to a certain Red Haired Kid.

PokemonMasterX September 28th, 2009 4:01 PM

My opinion? Who really cares? They already added stuff not to do just after beating the elite four but Red himself. If they've already added that much, why add more? The only thing the sevii islands were truly included for other than a plot extension and Johto pokemon was the fact that the event islands (birth islands and navel rock) were there, believe it or not. I mean, come on! They got a lot of stuff, such as...(spoiler tag. Don't click if you don't want to know.)
Spoiler:
the inclusion of the legendary birds, remakes of the easier gyms to be harder, cerulean cave (which means mewtwo), groudon in soulsilver and kyogre in heartgold, rayquaza in both. Plus you can do reamatches with all 16 gym leaders, as well as get the uber pickachu in pokewalker (knows fly, volt tackle, and surf), and you still have Ho-oh and/or Lugia, Entei and Raikou, and Suicune has a chasing event even longer and more complicated than crystals. Plus you have the pokethlon dome and the arceus event in there (different than what you probably think). And they STILL retain everything, if not more, form the good old days. Not only that, but almost all former champions appear, including steven, who gives you a choice of one of the three hoenn starters, and professor oak does the same with the kanto starters. The battle frontier is there (no there is absolutely no difference from platinum in any way), and i forgot to add the spiky eared pichu event.

If you can't be happy with everything in the spoiler, then you obviously don't know a good pokemon game.

WindBlows September 28th, 2009 4:27 PM

No, I personally do not miss them.

sanny the hedgehog September 28th, 2009 4:31 PM

WAIT HOLD ON!!!
THEY COULD'VE BEEN IN THE GAME!!
STOP THE SPOILERS!!!
ah well whatever, i can live with spoilers.
i think they should be in there.
i mean when i played FR/LG i loved the sevii islands.

well now im bummed.
they shoulda been in there.

xXI JOE IXx September 29th, 2009 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanny the hedgehog (Post 5167383)
WAIT HOLD ON!!!
THEY COULD'VE BEEN IN THE GAME!!
STOP THE SPOILERS!!!
ah well whatever, i can live with spoilers.
i think they should be in there.
i mean when i played FR/LG i loved the sevii islands.

well now im bummed.
they shoulda been in there.

They were put in the games to give the player something to do after the elite four, but in HG/SS we have kanto. So they aren't really needed

Amore September 29th, 2009 10:13 AM

Yeah, i think it woulda been brilliant if we had the Sevii Islands, but meh, people still get angry there's not 4 regions in a game, don't they???

I'm more interested in whether they fixed the wobbling screens whenever you get on your bike or run that you had in D/P/Pt

rndm. September 29th, 2009 11:04 AM

I do I do I do.

I enjoy islands in general. That's why I've always been hoping for a Orange League game, which most certainly will never be made.

Sotto Voce September 29th, 2009 2:29 PM

Not at all. I'm glad they didn't add them in. I think it would take away from the orginality of the GBC games.
.....and they were disappointing, for reasons others have already covered, and from the spoilers I've read, there is more than enough to do after the game. <----And that makes it a lot better, I think. :3

Kotone September 29th, 2009 2:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeroKuragari (Post 5163170)
There might be nintendo events to get to the Islands. Who knows.

that's what i was thinking,
but other than that,
i dont rlly care.
rofl.

Guy September 29th, 2009 3:29 PM

If any event were to be held needing to go back to any island within the game, then it may most likely be Birth Island and/or Naval Rock. The only reason being is for a held Mew and/or Deoxys event. However, I find the need of a Celebi event more fitting towards the games. Though, I doubt Sevii Islands would make an appearance as a whole for much of an event.

Like said it wasn't a needed location for the game and what could have been done there, was easily implemented on the returning Kanto.

.Chocolate. September 29th, 2009 3:48 PM

I was annoyed! I wanted a Larvitar when I got to the Kanto region so I don't have to wait all this time after beating the Elites the second time and the Sevii Islands weren't there.D:<
I hated that. They should have included them.n_n Oh well.D:

The Power of Pika September 30th, 2009 7:22 AM

I would have liked them in. It's really weird they're not in. I know people say they were needed to fill up the dex in LG and FR but in the end they were islands that were part of LG and FR. HG and SS feel like sequals to RBY more so than LG and FR to me. Yet they showed these were sequals of LG and FR when they were promoting them.

PokemonMasterX September 30th, 2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Power of Pika (Post 5171664)
I would have liked them in. It's really weird they're not in. I know people say they were needed to fill up the dex in LG and FR but in the end they were islands that were part of LG and FR. HG and SS feel like sequals to RBY more so than LG and FR to me. Yet they showed these were sequals of LG and FR when they were promoting them.

They're only counted as sequels because they're remakes of Gold and Silver, which were sequels of Red and Blue(or Red and Green if you live in Japan), whose remakes were FR & LG. Therefore, the remakes are related in the same way the originals were. Plus, the Sevii Islands were and add on for completing the pokedex as well as something to do after the game was beaten. Plus, it was the only way to obtain johto pokemon that weren't already planned for emerald, meaning that since you can get said Johto pokemon, you don't need the sevii islands. That's not to say there aren't extra areas in Johto, though. For each of the remkae sets they include the things that were missing. Red and Blue/Green lacked somthing to do after you beat the Elite Four, and Gold and Silver lacked things such as the Safari Zone and Somthing to do after you Beat Red, which they included in each, meaning the sevii islands would simply take up space. Also, what would you do with the sevii elements that were implemented to add what was in the games after Red and Blue/Green, such as the Day Care on Four island, the Tanoby Ruins on Seven Island, or Trainer Tower(counterpart of Battle Tower), Also on Seven Island?

If I go on another rant, forgive me. I just have a lot to say.

WisherWisherWish September 30th, 2009 10:40 AM

If you mis the Sevii islands people, go play FR/LG again.

Because this is a G/S remake, not another R/B/Y remake.

i hated the Sevii islands anyways.

PokemonMasterX September 30th, 2009 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WisherWisherWish (Post 5172059)
If you mis the Sevii islands people, go play FR/LG again.

Because this is a G/S remake, not another R/B/Y remake.

i hated the Sevii islands anyways.

Spoken like a true Gold and Silver fan.

EDIT: Hey, what do you know? I didn't go on another rant.

skyluigi2 September 30th, 2009 11:59 AM

actually, id rather not have them... it is supposed to be a g/s remake! anyway, the games are long enough without them!

xXI JOE IXx September 30th, 2009 12:04 PM

I don't miss the Sevii islands, but they should have expanded heart gold/ soul silvers campaign after johto

Eggie Poo Poo September 30th, 2009 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doxasikyrie (Post 5162982)
I thought HG/SS were supposed to be sequels of FR/LG

When was that ever established?

Mitchman September 30th, 2009 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eggie Poo Poo (Post 5172343)
When was that ever established?

When the company said it themselves. Not to mention they have hints to rocket being beaten by a kid and the story of FR/LG being posted on the HGSS site. Which is ultimately why I'm bothered with the lack of islands. IF established to be a follow up to a game, and one area of the previous game is to be in, the main assumption is the other will too.

ソラ September 30th, 2009 12:54 PM

I like HG/SS the way it is, I would be kinda pissed if they put the island in there, cause it'll be useless in the G/S remake. So basically I don't miss them in this game.

Eggie Poo Poo September 30th, 2009 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchman (Post 5172351)

When the company said it themselves. Not to mention they have hints to rocket being beaten by a kid and the story of FR/LG being posted on the HGSS site. Which is ultimately why I'm bothered with the lack of islands. IF established to be a follow up to a game, and one area of the previous game is to be in, the main assumption is the other will too.

The rest you said are valid points, but the "being beaten by a kid" can also mean R/B/Y, because you played a "kid" and beat Team Rocket. Also remember the G/S universe takes place a few years after R/B/Y, as would HG/SS, and if following your logic should take place a few years after FR/LG, and that way anything could have happened to the Sevii Islands in that time, and also think that there are no errands you need to do there, Nintendo never makes regions without errands to do ...

deanhanson October 1st, 2009 12:41 AM

Would anyone else be frustratedly disappointed if they entered the Kanto power plant and ... Although I'm not expecting the Sevii Islands to be in HG/SS, ... I can't wait too see the train animation! I've missed it since silver.......

Mitchman October 1st, 2009 1:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eggie Poo Poo (Post 5173457)
The rest you said are valid points, but the "being beaten by a kid" can also mean R/B/Y, because you played a "kid" and beat Team Rocket. Also remember the G/S universe takes place a few years after R/B/Y, as would HG/SS, and if following your logic should take place a few years after FR/LG, and that way anything could have happened to the Sevii Islands in that time, and also think that there are no errands you need to do there, Nintendo never makes regions without errands to do ...

HGSS replaces GSC as the canon games as did FR/LG. Its common knowledge by know that HGSS would take place after FR/LG what with the aging of the Kanto leaders and its changes. With the Sevii Islands much more could have been done with them. Seeing how 3 years passed a frontier could have been situtated there or even one facility on each islands or something. Hell they could have put gyms and new leaders for the islands as technically its a region of sorts. I'm pretty much upset that they made the islands disappear and that Leaf isn't anywhere to be seen.

Akeraz October 1st, 2009 12:24 PM

I really don't see a point in putting the Sevii Islands in.
As people have said, all they were was filler in order to place Johto Pokémon, and that stupid sidequest to be able to trade to Ruby and Sapphire.
Which turns out to be useless unless you actually had a link cable and a friend who could actually be bothered to play with you.
I'm glad they took them out.
They just felt like a tacky add-on to me.


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