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PokemonMasterX October 1st, 2009 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchman (Post 5174018)
HGSS replaces GSC as the canon games as did FR/LG. Its common knowledge by know that HGSS would take place after FR/LG what with the aging of the Kanto leaders and its changes. With the Sevii Islands much more could have been done with them. Seeing how 3 years passed a frontier could have been situtated there or even one facility on each islands or something. Hell they could have put gyms and new leaders for the islands as technically its a region of sorts. I'm pretty much upset that they made the islands disappear and that Leaf isn't anywhere to be seen.

Why? What would you possibly put in there that didn't already exist in Johto or Kanto? And for the love of God, do NOT say the battle frontier! That's where the battle tower was situated in crystal and it deserves to be there. And since there are seven islands the gyms wouldn't work. And who really cares about leaf? She, just like Kris, was an add-on for female fans. This is mainly a G/S Remake, so they don't need the female from crystal in there, just like they don't need leaf. Go with the current add-ons and quit whining.

Yes, this rant was completely necessary.

EDIT: Hey, I'm first person on the third page!

IndigoPlateau October 1st, 2009 7:38 PM

I liked the Sevii Islands, had a lot of adventures on them (plenty of hours spent training Pokemon and vs. seekering), but at the same time, I can see why Nintendo got rid of them. After all, they were only there to give us access to Pokemon we couldn't get on the mainland. We've already established the fact that the GBA Slot will be in use for this game, giving us the ability to obtain Pokemon from Hoenn. Seeing as we're already in Johto and, eventually, Kanto, there's no need for the Sevii Islands. Unless they completely changed the purpose of them -- which would get rid of the need for them, in my opinion -- we can do without them.

Wireless = Diamond/Pearl/Platinum Pokemon.
GBA Slot = FireRed and LeafGreen Pokemon that weren't in the Kanto/Johto regions to begin with. Also, we get the Hoenn Pokemon that weren't already in there (if any).

All the basic neccessities are covered.

To close out: we don't need the Sevii Islands because they're no longer of use to us.

Amen. :)

The Power of Pika October 1st, 2009 8:54 PM

It would have been nice if they had given an explanation on why you couldn't go to sevi islands. You know keeping to the spirit of the original games. The original games explained everything that changed from RBY but HG and SS failed to explain everything from LG and FR.

This may not bother the older fanbase but I am thinking along the lines of the kids who played LG and FR first.

I've already seen people ask what happened to sevi islands. I've even seen people ask where lorelei is aswell since she lived on the islands.

Though I can make up an explanation on the spot that explains both. Strange that they couldn't do it unless there's some character somewhere in the game that's been missed explaining it.

"Shadow Lugia" October 2nd, 2009 8:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Power of Pika (Post 5176409)
It would have been nice if they had given an explanation on why you couldn't go to sevi islands. You know keeping to the spirit of the original games. The original games explained everything that changed from RBY but HG and SS failed to explain everything from LG and FR.

This may not bother the older fanbase but I am thinking along the lines of the kids who played LG and FR first.

I've already seen people ask what happened to sevi islands. I've even seen people ask where lorelei is aswell since she lived on the islands.

Though I can make up an explanation on the spot that explains both. Strange that they couldn't do it unless there's some character somewhere in the game that's been missed explaining it.

Considering that few people here actually speak Japanese, it's possible that their absense was explained at one point in HG/SS's text.

Although in all honesty I really don't get why an explanation is needed. It's not like what happened to Cinnabar, Mt. Moon, or Viridian Forest in G/S/C. The islands are far south of Johto and Kanto. It's quite possible the player's never even heard of the islands.

Mitchman October 2nd, 2009 8:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PokemonMasterX (Post 5175665)
Why? What would you possibly put in there that didn't already exist in Johto or Kanto? And for the love of God, do NOT say the battle frontier! That's where the battle tower was situated in crystal and it deserves to be there. And since there are seven islands the gyms wouldn't work. And who really cares about leaf? She, just like Kris, was an add-on for female fans. This is mainly a G/S Remake, so they don't need the female from crystal in there, just like they don't need leaf. Go with the current add-ons and quit whining.

Yes, this rant was completely necessary.

EDIT: Hey, I'm first person on the third page!

While this is a GSC remake they deserve to be in there as much as Kanto does. A lot of things story wise could have made sense, and while the battle tower was situated there in Crystal I honestly do not like it there as if they don't have anywhere else to put it. The frontier is a frontier for a reason: for the greatest trainers to travel there and test there skills, not to fly to a city and test their skills. I honestly feel they lost so much potential with story and features leaving out the Sevii islands.

Guy October 2nd, 2009 9:28 AM

As I feel compelled to say that the Sevii Islands really have no purpose in the game as some may think, it could at least for the most so far be mentioned to note its existence. Seeing as FRLG brought it into the game, I feel if it couldn't be brought into play, then it should have enough signification to be mentioned to those who appreciated it or would have liked it to be included.

Going with what Mitchman brought up on the Battle Frontier however, the islands could have been utilized for the Frontier rather than having it a simple flight a way.

Serene Grace October 2nd, 2009 9:41 AM

How can you miss something that wasn't originally implemented for the game?

Personally, I think the Sevii islands only works for FR/LG and wouldn't really work for HG/SS. Why? Well, we already have Kanto. What more do we need?

HeartGold95 October 2nd, 2009 11:24 AM

Exactly why the heck would we want more! We alreade have Johto and Kanto so there is no other reason for it to be in the game.
Besides lorelie's explination where she went.

PokemonMasterX October 2nd, 2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchman (Post 5177322)
While this is a GSC remake they deserve to be in there as much as Kanto does. A lot of things story wise could have made sense, and while the battle tower was situated there in Crystal I honestly do not like it there as if they don't have anywhere else to put it. The frontier is a frontier for a reason: for the greatest trainers to travel there and test there skills, not to fly to a city and test their skills. I honestly feel they lost so much potential with story and features leaving out the Sevii islands.

The problem is that as i said earlier where would you put the facilities that were included to give FR and LG the same abilities as any other game? A majority of them are already in Johto and Kanto, meaning you would have nothing to do on the islands in these games. Yes, it could explain Lorelei's absence, but don't forget that Agitha is missing as well. Besides, since the battle frontier is a dead look-alike of Platinum's, that would only take care of one of the islands. Add the Lorelei backstory, Moltres on Mt. Ember, and maybe the Pokethlon Dome, and you have fourislands taken care of. So what about the other three? I'm not saying they shouldn't be in there, but why should they be in there when they no longer serve a purpose.

Ya know, I really wonder why I'm the guy writing these long posts.

Lord Yawgmoth October 3rd, 2009 12:07 PM

The Sevii Islands were lame. They were boring and there wasn't even climatic battles or bosses in them either. Just grunts, bikers, and scientists. Whoopty freaking doo.

TheDude5000 October 3rd, 2009 3:48 PM

It would have been nice to have them, but it's not a huge loss.

Poliwagged October 5th, 2009 1:49 PM

I don't, and I never liked those islands.

They were basically there for filler end-game material and dinky side quests just to trade with R/S.

PokemonMasterX October 5th, 2009 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Yawgmoth (Post 5181064)
The Sevii Islands were lame. They were boring and there wasn't even climatic battles or bosses in them either. Just grunts, bikers, and scientists. Whoopty freaking doo.

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Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 5189161)
THANK YOU.

You have said everything I wanted to say.

The Sevii Islands don't deserve to be in these EPIC remakes. They were a waste of time, and not even memorable. I couldn't wait until I beat the islands so I could finally trade with RSE. I'm glad they didn't bring back those islands.

The Sevii islands were only there for Johto Pokemon seeing as it wasn't compatible with GSC. Now, we have the actual Johto region to play in, so no need for the islands. HGSS is compatible with RSE and DPPt, so there goes the idea of putting those Pokemon on the islands.

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Originally Posted by Poliwagged (Post 5189185)
I don't, and I never liked those islands.

They were basically there for filler end-game material and dinky side quests just to trade with R/S.

Ya know, I was trying to be nice, but these guys put the real point as to why the sevii islands weren't needed. They're filler on which you do next to nothing. EVERYTHING you could do on the islands is possible in HG/SS, quite frankly in Johto alone (not all of it, of course).

PKFL_531 October 5th, 2009 5:43 PM

I liked the Sevii Islands. They explained so much. They explained Lorelies disappearance in HGSS and partly who Silver was. It was also a great way to include other things, such as some Johto Pokemon and it was a bit more of a challenge because the Kanto Region was too easy and too fast.

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Pikachu™ October 6th, 2009 11:39 AM

To be honest their is already alot to do in HG/SS. The Sevi island are a bit of waste seeing as there is already Kanto and Johto.

Myles October 6th, 2009 1:37 PM

The Sevii Islands served their purposed of extending a short game and making more as-of-then unobtainable Pokemon, obtainable. HGSS have a second region.

Guy October 6th, 2009 3:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HeartGold95 (Post 5177600)
Exactly why the heck would we want more! We alreade have Johto and Kanto so there is no other reason for it to be in the game.
Besides lorelie's explination where she went.

To add in besides there being just Johto and Kanto, there is also the Battle Frontier included. Yes, a simple flight away, but still there nonethless serving the same purpose without the help of Seven individual islands.

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Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5191955)
The Sevii Islands served their purposed of extending a short game and making more as-of-then unobtainable Pokemon, obtainable. HGSS have a second region.

The Sevii Islands served their purpose for FireRed and LeafGreen like said and its purpose in HeartGold and SoulSilver would only be an extention unneeded.

Myles October 6th, 2009 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Let's Get Lost Together. (Post 5192310)
The Sevii Islands served their purpose for FireRed and LeafGreen like said and its purpose in HeartGold and SoulSilver would only be an extention unneeded.

Like I said, HGSS has a second region. It would be way too much to have the Sevii Islands too.

Tyrantrum October 6th, 2009 7:34 PM

What are you talking about? Sequel? They're remakes.

But, I probably wouldn't really mind if they were in the game.

Myles October 6th, 2009 7:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind~ (Post 5192891)
What are you talking about? Sequel? They're remakes.

Everyone considered GSC sequels to RGBY (which they kind of were, with the whole advancing Kanto storyline and the appearnce of Red and Blue). So by extension people seem to think HGSS is a sequel to FRLG.

Poliwagged October 6th, 2009 9:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind~ (Post 5192891)
What are you talking about? Sequel? They're remakes.

But, I probably wouldn't really mind if they were in the game.

"Three years ago, team rocket was defeated by some kid named RED"


Sequel of sorts.

GengarNightmare October 8th, 2009 1:56 PM

I miss the Sevii Islands.....sorta.

It was a new place, it had a new feel to it, but it has kinda become pointless now. It was mainly there to give the Johto pokemon a home with the lack of G/S/C.

Lunafloon October 13th, 2009 6:43 AM

I know Sevii Islands were just added to advance FireRed/LeafGreen's story lines but I still love the islands to pieces and wish they were still there...
Then again, I'm not bored to pieces with them like most seeing as I've never figured out how to get past the start 3 islands until now. Ironically, I now cant defeat the elite 4...

Oh well, Johto+Kanto is waaay more than enough for me ^-^

Yuoaman October 13th, 2009 4:16 PM

I actually enjoyed the Sevii Islands quite a bit, and I think it would have been an excellent addition to the new games.


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