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mervyn797 October 5th, 2009 8:52 AM

[HoTW #85] Pokemon Shadow Black
 



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Even since the dates were closing on your 10th birthday, your dream, to be a Poke Master, were growing stronger and stronger.
The day will come. But.... the night has to pass. How will it? That wierd sensation, its eating you up. What's going on?
Your dream, will it come true?
What happens, when things do not go as you wish, as you dream?
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Ah! A bright new day to start an adventure. You step out of your house.... Darn, it's raining. A perfect day! Well, you musn't be late to get your first Pokemon. Ummm.... How difficult it is to choose among three excellent Pokemon!
Who is.... that Pokemon, following you....? You can't see it. But you can feel its presence. What is it? Is is guarding you? If yes, then from what?

Face The Shadow Squad, who lurk amoing the shadows causing havoc among the people of the region. This team was reunited from the disbanded Team Galactic. They no longer aim the Distorted World or the Space above, they are desperately trying to find Mt. Lyton, where the ultimate Pokemon resides, to sieze control of the whole region. Will you be able stop the Shadow Squad from their evil undoings?

So trainers, the region of Oraon is ready for your arrival, are you ready? Step up as the greatest trainer one has ever known, and find the three mystical rivers leading to the Lake of Lyton, whose beauty is beyond imagination. There will lie the great Mountain Lyton Itself. It holds something mysterious. Only the brave among the chosen few will be able to complete this ultimate quest. But why has this place been dreaded since ancient times? What does it hold for you? Is it that Pokemon?
Legends say that whosoever finds Mt. Lyton shall face the ultimate Pokemon, the master of all Pokemon. But for that, tremendous courage and love for Pokemon is needed.
Twas once said, "Pokemon are never evil, its their trainer who is good or evil."
Will history repeat itself, or will you decide it?










1. D/P/Pt. Pokemon
2. Starters are the sinnoh ones.
3. Darkrai is the main legendary. Is he? Or is he not?
4. Plenty of scripts to keep you entertained throughout the bulk of the game.
4. A new region Oraon, north-west of Sinnoh.
6. New music.
7. You will mostly decide the storyline.
8. A brand new HP Laptop to send and receive e-mails. :D
9. A lot more you could discover youreself!
10. Detailed lan
scapes, featuring the low hills in the South and the snow capped mountains in the North.
11. Quest of finding the 3 mystical rivers of Oraon, which will lead to mini-quests a
nd Mt. Lyton itself.









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A lot more to come. Brace youreselves.


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MASTEROFPUPPETS -For the rombase
-Saurav -For the trees, the ground, flower and Pokécenter/mart

-Wesley FG -For the path and the house

-Doktor Worm. -For the mountains

-Gary93 -For the gym
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Dr Gregory House -For the name "Shadow Squad"
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Aberbecam-For the "Shadow Black" Logo
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Dante -For the Title Screen Background Rip
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Bzuma - For helping me locate the TS
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Aerow - He deserves one, he refused to script for me, so now i'm able to make my own scripts. ^_^
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Neo- Wolf - I don't know, he wanted it! For CSS
This one, Specially for Banjora Marxvile:



Ray Maverick October 5th, 2009 8:58 AM

A hack? Good move, Mervyn797.
The mapping needs improvement. The story isn't bad. But Munchlax for a starter?

Anyways, good luck.

mervyn797 October 5th, 2009 9:01 AM

hehehe! the story is stub. XD some last moment problems made it difficult to get the ingame screenies. too bad. xD
mapping is bad o.O gotta do some work. XD

Fire Wolf October 5th, 2009 9:06 AM

This game seems to be a great game. When is the expected release date?

.Tactic. October 5th, 2009 9:06 AM

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee268/07harris/correct.png
these are your tile-errors pal...
Great story :)
get some screens up k?

mervyn797 October 5th, 2009 9:25 AM

yeah, that tiel error was fixed, you know that codec, but, i forgot to update the map shot. lol

Banjora Marxvile October 5th, 2009 9:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codec (Post 5188363)
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee268/07harris/correct.png
these are your tile-errors pal...
Great story :)
get some screens up k?

Also, the ledge on the beach is an error too, on the edge bits, that isn't the right tile.

Anyway, mervyn, can you script? I forgot if you can or not. If not, then... Well, forget this, as to get far in this, you need to either be very good at explaining your ideas, and how you want the scripts to work, or create the scripts yourself. The 2nd is less time consuming.

Why always Darkrai as the main legendary... Honestly, he may look evil, but most hacks with Shadow in their name either have Shadow Pokemon or Darkrai... True it is the only Dark Type Legendary, but how does it fit into the story? As the story is a stub, apparently, I cannot rate that, but the starter choice is... Well, not good. EIther make a choice, or something that is starter material. Munchlax isn't big on the power department, comapred.

mervyn797 October 5th, 2009 9:28 AM

what if i edit some of munchlax's moves? his stats? yeah, i can script.

Banjora Marxvile October 5th, 2009 9:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mervyn797 (Post 5188396)
what if i edit some of munchlax's moves? yeah, i can script.

Moves aren't the issue, in fact. Stats are. Pick a more balanced starter, like the 3 usually are.

mervyn797 October 5th, 2009 9:33 AM

in the story, you go to the professors lab, but then u see that lonely muchlax, and yeah.. that.

Satoshi Ookami October 5th, 2009 9:34 AM

Interesting tiles ya used...
Good luck with it
(Why so many hacks have Shadow in name? xD)

Banjora Marxvile October 5th, 2009 9:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mervyn797 (Post 5188403)
in the story, you go to the professors lab, but then u see that lonely muchlax, and yeah.. that.

... OK, not arguing that, I'm arguing about the choice. There are better Pokemon to pick than Munchlax, if I am honest. (As you can tell, I am slightly biased, as I like all Pokemon, but Munchlax, to me, is not really that great)

mervyn797 October 5th, 2009 9:36 AM

shadow is simply a coincidence, ask, giradialkia, he knows it.

Neo-Wolf October 5th, 2009 10:11 AM

Nice spooky story. But the mapping needs improvement. I will help.

giradialkia October 5th, 2009 12:03 PM

I'll come clean here guys- the name ShadowBlack was my idea, it's supposed to be like FireRed, LeafGreen, HeartGold and SoulSilver- you know, basically in 'ObjectColour' format. I wasn't aware that so many hacks had 'Shadow' in the name, but I agree, there are an awful lot. So apologies for that- I think it'd be good, if so many people didn't already use it, lol. Any critique on the temporary title screen? I know what it lacks, obviously, eg a proper logo, and Press Start and such, but other than that, does it look alright? (it's my first one, see).

mervyn797 October 6th, 2009 1:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo-Wolf (Post 5188453)
Nice spooky story. But the mapping needs improvement. I will help.

you want to join? if yes can u post in the team thread, or here?

oliverl79 October 6th, 2009 1:26 AM

i'll support u! lol i'm trying to support heaps of people

mervyn797 October 6th, 2009 2:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliverl79 (Post 5190741)
i'll support u! lol i'm trying to support heaps of people

oh thank you for that.
im going to upload some screenies later today.

robin9211 October 6th, 2009 6:10 AM

wow mervyn, a hack! lol
get some screenies.

mervyn797 October 6th, 2009 6:15 AM

okay i have some screenies.
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9864/shadow1p.png

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7665/shadow2q.png

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8659/shadow1.png

robin9211 October 6th, 2009 8:05 AM

mapping has improved :D
but some of them are still a bit empty.

.Tactic. October 6th, 2009 12:35 PM

Better man, alot better.
but you didnt fix your tile errors :(

.::. October 6th, 2009 4:40 PM

Very interesting. I hope you finish it.

mervyn797 October 7th, 2009 1:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codec (Post 5191741)
Better man, alot better.
but you didnt fix your tile errors :(

which one? in which screenie?

.Tactic. October 7th, 2009 2:44 AM

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7749/shadow3.png
cant you see it?

mervyn797 October 7th, 2009 2:51 AM

that screenies wasnt a tile error. its was border error. XD

.Tactic. October 7th, 2009 2:53 AM

Right ok sorry.
You want me to make a hero OW?

mervyn797 October 7th, 2009 3:08 AM

yeah, i need a new player OW. but it has to be something out of the ordinary. XD

.Tactic. October 7th, 2009 3:30 AM

What exactly do you mean???

mervyn797 October 7th, 2009 4:13 AM

no, make it like it should be. XD

.Tactic. October 7th, 2009 4:20 AM

Um... I have no motivation or anything to base it off man

mervyn797 October 7th, 2009 4:24 AM

what details do you need?

.Tactic. October 7th, 2009 4:36 AM

I dunno, basically just what you want him to loo like..

robin9211 October 7th, 2009 4:37 AM

very good till now. wanna play! XD

mervyn797 October 7th, 2009 4:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codec (Post 5193420)
I dunno, basically just what you want him to loo like..

okay the appearance, make his hair kinda.. neat, flat with 3 hair like things rising. XDXD
the clothes should be rather simple (colour depends on the palette, keep the FR OW palettes in mind.
bag should be the normal type.
more details?

robin9211 October 7th, 2009 6:40 AM

any progress? where's the vid?

mervyn797 October 7th, 2009 6:43 AM

yeah, yeah, some new screenies.
its called Dark Pass. A tiny pass in the mountains.
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4817/shadow7.png
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/3896/shadow6.png
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9950/shadow5.png

robin9211 October 7th, 2009 7:41 AM

Dark Pass? havent got a better name? :D dont worry, it matches with the name.

mervyn797 October 7th, 2009 7:49 AM

umm... why? any suggestions?

Banjora Marxvile October 7th, 2009 10:01 AM

The pass looks... Too square, the mountains do not look natural enough. Make them less square, and do not make the layer above copy the layer below like that (but smaller), it looks... Unnatural.

mervyn797 October 8th, 2009 1:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banjora Marxvile (Post 5193977)
The pass looks... Too square, the mountains do not look natural enough. Make them less square, and do not make the layer above copy the layer below like that (but smaller), it looks... Unnatural.

your talking about the second one? well should i leave some gap while making layers?

robin9211 October 8th, 2009 5:51 AM

i think that map isnt very attractive, thats it.

mervyn797 October 8th, 2009 6:48 AM

I dedrew that Dark Pass heres it:
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9489/shadow8.png
Also,
The next town:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4430/shadow9.png

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3429/shadow10.png

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/1154/shadow11.png

robin9211 October 8th, 2009 6:53 AM

do u like mountains a lot? :S lol. doesnt matter, this town is.... better mapped than atleast Dark Pass. Improvement. XD

DrFuji October 8th, 2009 7:00 AM

Your mountains were your biggest problem with Dark Pass, not the lack of trees. Square mountains just don't look good as a finished product, so I'd be taking Banjora's advice and making it more 'natural looking'.

While the next town looks interesting from the photos you have posted, it also seems to suffer from square-mountain-itis :/

mervyn797 October 8th, 2009 7:01 AM

YAY! if that's true. lol
geez gotta do more scripting..

man, i really cant understand the square mountain problem, pls can someone explain, i cant understand :/ id be grateful.

robin9211 October 8th, 2009 7:04 AM

whats there not to understand, make them rectangular. XD

mervyn797 October 8th, 2009 7:10 AM

okay people, here's the map of the second town:

Please, id be grateful if someone would help me? Square mountains. pls.

robin9211 October 8th, 2009 7:43 AM

the map is great!
but why is the border so thick?

mervyn797 October 8th, 2009 7:48 AM

glad you liked it. well square mountains is still the prob. cant understand. :/

.Tactic. October 8th, 2009 7:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robin9211 (Post 5196202)
whats there not to understand, make them rectangular. XD

You have got to be kidding me -_-

seriously man!
What everyonr means by square mountains is that they are not natural-looking.

making them too straight doesnt help, make the edges unpredictably natural!

mervyn797 October 8th, 2009 7:54 AM

yay! now i understand. lol, robin9211.
well im getting onto this thing.

robin9211 October 8th, 2009 8:06 AM

okay, i was kidding on that one. soz. good u understood anyway. XD

mervyn797 October 8th, 2009 8:10 AM

Okay i fixed the town a bit, coz there wasnt enough time.
have a look and see if it somewhat solves the problem.

robin9211 October 8th, 2009 8:12 AM

im guessing this one looks more natural, but theres scope for improvemnt. and also fix those Dark Pass screenies.

mervyn797 October 8th, 2009 8:15 AM

oh! thank you! ill fix those,but its almost dark, cant do it now. :(

Neo-Wolf October 8th, 2009 8:33 AM

The Pokemon Center is in front of the mountain entrance, which is not very natural. And house should have some space between them.

Banjora Marxvile October 8th, 2009 8:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo-Wolf (Post 5196403)
The Pokemon Center is in front of the mountain entrance, which is not very natural. And house should have some space between them.

How is that unnatural? Humans built the PC, they may have placed it there for a reason. It isn't unnatural if it was manmade.

Treeplacement may need to be improved, but the mountains look OK.

Shaymin&TorchicKeeper October 8th, 2009 9:30 PM

Nice. If any body lets this thread die... Shaymin! Use Seed Flare!

mervyn797 October 9th, 2009 1:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo-Wolf (Post 5196403)
The Pokemon Center is in front of the mountain entrance, which is not very natural. And house should have some space between them.

that isnt unnatural, its there for a reason, as banjora said. ingame, the PC hides the entrance quite beautifully, giving the hero some sought of a challenge about finding how to go on!

robin9211 October 9th, 2009 1:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo-Wolf (Post 5196403)
And house should have some space between them.

the house should have space? what? it looks fine to me? there looks there's enough space to walk, what else is needed?

mervyn797 October 9th, 2009 2:40 AM

okay i remade Dark Pass and the second town, trying to follow Banjora's advise. Have a look...:-

im guessing dark pass still needs improvement. lol, pls. comment.

robin9211 October 9th, 2009 2:51 AM

no joke, the next town is looking awesome. comendable improvement. good job!!

mervyn797 October 9th, 2009 2:53 AM

thanks.
some screenies from the second town:-
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8598/shadow14.png
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/131/shadow13.png
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1246/shadow12d.png

.Tactic. October 9th, 2009 2:56 AM

DUDE!
Awesome!
You can probably get into Progressiong hacks now!

mervyn797 October 9th, 2009 3:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codec (Post 5198818)
DUDE!
Awesome!
You can probably get into Progressiong hacks now!

codec, really, i want to move it but manipulation doesnt reply when i ask him. What do I do?:(

robin9211 October 9th, 2009 3:02 AM

hahaha! yeah, even i think this thread is ready to be moved.

mervyn797 October 9th, 2009 3:04 AM

oh!
a screenie from the deeply critised Dark Pass, pls tell me if something's wrong here.

DrFuji October 9th, 2009 3:38 AM

Hey, hey, that's looking much better!

The only thing that I can suggest is to do with the two small trees stacked on top of oneanother - Combined with the right side of Dark Path, the player can only go down a small path one tile in width. Its usually best to give a player at least a two tile width between blocks - But apart from that, everything is looking much better :D

robin9211 October 9th, 2009 3:38 AM

much better i must say. more "natural looking" XD

yeah u could do it that way, thats what fuji is saying.

mervyn797 October 9th, 2009 3:44 AM

okay, you say i must do away with 1 tile space, or get those trees out of there. lol,

robin9211 October 9th, 2009 4:01 AM

you can ask some other mod to move it.

Sora's Nobody October 9th, 2009 4:10 AM

I love the tiles in your hack, cause they are so dark, i love dark tiles :) Good luck! :)

mervyn797 October 9th, 2009 4:13 AM

oops O_o is it because of no$gba? lol, the tiles are actually quite dark but the emulator is causing them to look excessive dark.

robin9211 October 9th, 2009 5:27 AM

lol mervyn, spoiled the dark fun. XD

mervyn797 October 9th, 2009 7:33 AM

no, as i told they do look quite dark ingame.

robin9211 October 9th, 2009 7:52 AM

leave that. well where are the new OW's Mervyn? are you going to insert them or not? lol

mervyn797 October 9th, 2009 7:53 AM

dont worry! giradialkia is going to do them, to draw my jaws. XD

PokeBal33 October 9th, 2009 9:07 PM

This is a cool hack. I like the Dark Pallets. Good Job so far :)

mervyn797 October 9th, 2009 9:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokeBal33 (Post 5201412)
This is a cool hack. I like the Dark Pallets. Good Job so far :)

Oh! Thanks! Palettes are from Masterofpuppets rombase. *Thanks him*
well, giradialkia is going to insert indoor tiles from alucus of borg's tiles. they are very cool!

robin9211 October 9th, 2009 11:16 PM

hey! the new story is kinda interesting! no munchlax?

Aberbecam October 9th, 2009 11:50 PM

Hello there, You have a interesting storyline there. But the maps needs alot more works, i see alot of border errors and tile errors, And the tiles are so dark really hard to see the screens. But if you want me to, i can make the logo for the titlescreen of your hack.

mervyn797 October 10th, 2009 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aberbecam (Post 5201874)
Hello there, You have a interesting storyline there. But the maps needs alot more works, i see alot of border errors and tile errors, And the tiles are so dark really hard to see the screens. But if you want me to, i can make the logo for the titlescreen of your hack.

border errors? tile errors? id be grateful if you point them out. as for the logo... i can make it, just that im waiting giradialkia to send me the stuff.
or wait... can u make the logo? if yes, pls send!

Aberbecam October 10th, 2009 1:23 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Hear is the logo :) Don't forget to credit me mister.

Banjora Marxvile October 10th, 2009 1:26 AM

Maybe I can help with the pointing out:
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4421/shadow4.pngLook at the bottom with the route connections (You just need to got to Map Connections, and delete the one going down!

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4817/shadow7.png The trees at the far right have the wrong top, and as they are the border, that is a Border error.

mervyn797 October 10th, 2009 1:29 AM

Oh thank you Bajora! im getting to fixing them.

robin9211 October 10th, 2009 1:46 AM

Everything looking good till now. Let's see.... ^.^

ME0W October 10th, 2009 1:49 AM

That's a funny start! Hahahaha

mervyn797 October 10th, 2009 1:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aberbecam (Post 5202126)
Hear is the logo :) Don't forget to credit me mister.

umm... sorry aberecam, i most probably cant use your pic, coz giradialkia was making it (he's the one who made the title screen)
he might not like it, if i use it. you see....

Anyways, i corrected the errors:
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6923/shadow16.png
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5575/shadow17.png

robin9211 October 10th, 2009 1:56 AM

good the bugs are fixed! :D

Banjora Marxvile October 10th, 2009 1:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robin9211 (Post 5202245)
good the bugs are fixed! :D

There is a difference between bugs and errors. They were errors.

Anyway, if I see any more errors in your maps, I'll point them out!

mervyn797 October 10th, 2009 2:01 AM

thanks banjora! you deserve a place in the credits! :) (though i had added you earlier!) XD

robin9211 October 10th, 2009 2:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banjora Marxvile (Post 5202256)


There is a difference between bugs and errors. They were errors.

Anyway, if I see any more errors in your maps, I'll point them out!

oh sorry! im kinda new to this community ya see....

Ben. October 10th, 2009 3:15 AM

Looking good.
Nice tiles
Keep working at this.

robin9211 October 10th, 2009 4:40 AM

i like this hack too! im looking forward for an alpha/beta!

●•ΛΣЯӨЩ•● October 10th, 2009 5:35 AM

Start Making new maps will ya?

mervyn797 October 10th, 2009 5:40 AM

im waiting for giradialkia, only them will i be able to map.

robin9211 October 10th, 2009 7:25 AM

hehehe! the new gif's are some kind of cool!!

Blazing Phoenix October 10th, 2009 7:42 AM

Heh. This one looks like a nice hack. Hope you continue it. Can't wait ta see the final outcome.

mervyn797 October 10th, 2009 7:46 AM

oh! thanks both of you. im sure ill be able to live up to your expectations.


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