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Guys, I hope that you ev train the pokemons, or else the challengers will defeat us.
I°know what I`m talking about. I had a battle against greene in the past (he`s the Heart & Soul Rock Leader) and lost 0-4, because I had bad moves and my pokemon weren`t ev trained. |
Hey Piplup, you forgot to add my clauses (its on the other page now) to my form! D;
Exactly...this league wont work out unless it is good, unique, and its solid. I think only me, Piplup, and マイケル have the solid gyms. The rest are unoriginal and dont have any proper rules. Lets make an effort!!!!!!!!!! |
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I find the lack of faith and support disturbing... Anyways... I'll try and come up with better rules...
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Lady Gaga, I`ve added your rules =)
PS : Leading a league for the first time is hard... |
Lol yeah. Maybe you should reconsider what gyms are staying and who needs to change or revamp their gyms. And be more picky in the selection. Then again, it is YOUR league and whatever you have in mind for the league is what matters the most. Just a suggestion
@Iyo If you don't know what EV training is or why it's useful, then you're never going to see Greene's point. His point is well made (and kind of obvious, sorry Iyo) and you should definitely think about what he's saying. In competitive battling, it's not all about type effectiveness or all-powerful moves like it is in-game, it's about creating a team of pokemon with roles and abilities that complement each other and work towards a common goal or strategy. That's not to say that teams are built with one specific strategy in mind (although some are), rather that teams are built to strategically defend and attack threats and opponents of the team. I'm no buff at competitive battling. But I have been watching youtube competitive battlers all summer long (and into the fall), played on Shoddy for a month now, and EV trained/ team built since the third generation. I'd like to say I understand the nature of competitive battling and basics of said battling. If you need any help understanding the true importance of EV's in competitive battling then I'd be more than happy to explain. I really think that if you are to become a battler then you should look into guides on competitive battling and participate in the smogon tutoring. I myself am going to sign up for the next round of tutoring on smogon (I've missed it three times in a row now, but they are re-doing the system to make it easier for people to learn). Don't be insulted by what he's saying, I think he's trying to help you but A) He's saying it bluntly B) You're taking the offensive and not really reading what he's saying C) You have different values in the game than others I personally think that the EV idea is novel, which matches the theme of the league, but it's not very plausible. It's not competitive battling without EV's. Anyone can just get some pokemon together and some moves and start battling. The next level is to find out what pokemon successfully uses what moveset and what EV stat spread and using it successfully and "correctly" (In the competitive battling sense of the word) Sorry you've been upset bro =/ |
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No, I mean that if some gym's aren't very creative then you shouldn't just automatically accept them. Again, it's up to you and your standards. And maybe some of the gyms right now aren't very well thought out and half-assed and the gym leaders need to revamp their rules and conditions on battles to make it more creative and entice more people to battle.
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Okay.
BTW, I`ve updated my Gym with more details and a better design. Do you like the design? If yes, then I can update yours too. |
Let me say something. Most of my experience in battling off PC has been against unEvd pokes. Unless you constantly hit your enemy over and over again without missing with a super effective move, beating them can take a while. I've had several epic un-EV'd battles. And with no OHKO or Sleep, and quick claw allowed, my challengers will see epic battles.
Edit: EVing takes time. New PC members and battlers often can't do it. They won't be alienated in my gym. EVing doesn't in the slightest more or less competitive, it just makes some Pokes go down quicker, some slower. |
EVing takes time, that`s right.
But I`m going to ev train some of my old/new pokemon, so they are more resistent against challengers. If you don`t ev, then you could also go for a shoddy battle. You can choose your pokemon, legal moves, legal stats, evs and ivs. Ta-daaa! You`ve got a team with good pokemon. But yeah, I`m going to bed now (1:47 AM). Good night and have a good day =) |
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Dude you're just all up on these people lmfao. Leave 'em be if they don't get it eh? ;D
You already made one person really upset haha quota is done for the day. |
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basically, you should either use shoddy or start EV training.
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Amen. Pie Fillerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
Anyways id like to sign on as oneve the elite 4.
Ill try to think up some cool rule later but id like to reserve the position if at all possible. I can tell you that all battles will be doubles edit: geezus this league has only been going for less than 24 hours and its got 5 pages of replies o.o... impressive i guess and i guess i should fill this out... - Dunno what kinda gym yet. Ill deffinatly let you know tomorow - leingodf8 - Edge - 4253 9864 9144 - Pacific Standard Time - Doubles battles with.... well i guess i hafta do all other standards since itll be an e4 position, though id prefer it to be 3 UU/NU and 3 OU/BL - Uhhh.... An ev'd pokemon of your choice (as in ill breed and trade you one once you win, may take a bit of time) |
Nah, EVing isn't important, non-EVd's still need strategy.
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Yes, I would like my form updated.
Turtle Gym Leader : Lady Gaga Status : Currently closed Shoddy Name : TurtleGaga Shoddy Server : Smogon University Battle Time : I am usually busy, but PM me when you want to challenge me, and we will make a time. Time Zone : EST (GMT -5) (Ontario, Canada) Rules : - Battles will be on Shoddy Battle - No ubers, and only 1 OU Pokemon - Fair IVs and EVs (read the Baby Gym's rules for examples) - Only 3 main pokemon (I will only use 3 as well) ~ other 3 must be Bidoof. So once the main three pokemon are defeated, the preson defeated must forfeit the match. Clauses : - Uber Clause (Those Pokemon are not allowed : http://www.smogon.com/dp/tiers/uber) - OHKO Clause (Moves, which kill pokemon with one hit, are not allowed. Those are Horn Drill, Fissure, Guillotine and Sheer Cold) - Evasion Clause ("Attack-Accuracy decreasing Moves" are not allowed. Those are Double Team, Sand-Attack and Minimize) - Sleep Clause (You are allowed to make just one of the opponents pokemon sleep - oppenent pokemon using rest doesn`t count) - Illegal Hacks Clause (Pokemon with 999 HP/ATK/DEF/SP.ATK/SP.DEF/SPD are not allowed) - Hax Item Clause (Items like Focus Band are not allowed) Prize : Shell Badge, 1 Turtwig Egg, 1 Squirtle Egg, 1 Mystery Egg (these are stored in my Pearl game. My FC will only be revealed to those who defeat me!) |
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That just makes battles longer, and postpones the inevitable.
Edit: Oh yeah, update my rules to include Evasion Clause. |
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BTW, how you think EV training makes battles longer is beyond me, since when you don't EV train you still get those 63 extra stat points, just they are randomly scattered and usually in stats you don't use; basically it means your Pokemon is weaker. All the same, I'm sigging these last two quotes from you because they are just so rofl lol any other stupid phrases that involve laughing. |
Hey Pip, I think I've decided on my gym.
Gym: Black Pyramid Type: Pokemon that are creepy in appearance/monstrous Rules: 6 verus 6 single, standard with item clause(no more than 1 of each item) Teams must consist of 3 uu/nu and 3 ou, bl counts as ou. No entry hazard such as stealth rock, toxic spikes, or spikes. Sandstream and snow warning however is allowed. Badge: Banshee's tear I know the rules and type seem weird, but I wanted something a little off the wall for elite. :) |
Wow, 5 pages when I was sleeping! XD
Just want to confirm that I'm still here, though I don't have my computer yet. :( I will fill in the form later. :) |
Legend Gym
YanmegaLv55 Plato I will give a friend code when needed Time Zone: UTC +11 Rules: -Cannot Have that same Pokemon Twice -No Focus Sashes -Minimum of 3 Pokemon,Maximum of 6 Prize: Awesome Badge and One of the following Shiny Pokemon -Golbat -Staraptor -Pidgey |
will ubers be allowed cause if so i doubt itll work
so u may wanna be specific on the legendaries |
So...I`m here again.
Okay, one new elite four member and 1 new gym leader. I`ll add you both and update Lady Gagas and crimsonstorms Gym =) BTW, Many thanks from me to leinfgod and crimsonstorm that they have joined this league. I know that both are strong, so it won`t be easy to pass the Elite Four =) |
My rules:
- Kind of E-4 Green Color - PC Name: Code_Green - In-game name Jason - FC 3051 7039 3803 -Battle Time Send request. I will respond. :) - Time Zone Same as above. - Your own rules Sleep, hax, hacked, OHKO, and Uber clauses. OU. I will only use pokemon of the color green. - Prize Egg move pokemon and badge. |
Ummm...you have reserved a Elite Four member place...
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Oh! I mean Colour E-4! XD
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Okay, so no badge...
BTW, I`ll may use the same E4 rule like in the H&S League Before you battle the E4, you can change your Pokemon. Once started a battle with the first E4 member, you are not allowed to change your team, unless you loose. |
Forget the "You may only use a monocolour team." part if that is the case. I'm allowed to use NFE pokemon if they are green.
:) |
i might have joined, but i dont think i am strong enough for an elite place XD
so i will probably sit this one out |
Greene, not EVing is the game norm. My ideas are not way over the top. If it wasn't for things like the Smogon article, this wouldn't be a problem.
PS: Not EVing isn't nooby. EVing means you're so hardcore that you really have nothing better to do than do a crapload of math for stats for a game. IT'S JUST A GAME. Don't take it so seriously. |
Well, come be a Gym Leader then! Though, please put some effort into your gym, because some arnt good, and I will have to have a talk with Piplup.
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u know ur not going to win in a rant with greene id jus give it up
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all gyms are taken XD .
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lol sorry dude but i almost fell outta my chair when i saw wat he did
no offense |
Well, I am going to fight for some to be taken out. Especially the E4, only 1 of them is good :/
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lol i know that but its gonna keep dragging on and on and on like the energizer bunny XD
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we have the next 50 or so years of our lives to be mature XD enjoy immaturity while you can. its a virtue :P
why are you trying to insult someone just because they have a sense of humour? XD |
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Well, that's where you need ACTUAL STRATEGY, the whole point of battling. Competitive battling wasn't made for "OMG I gots to EV my Pokemon all week or it ain't worth ****", it's supposed to be "oh jeez, he used that move? how should i counter? hmm....."
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ELITE FORM
- Kind of Gym- Winged beasts gym - PC Name - Painter http://www.pokecommunity.com/member.php?u=164722 - In-game name - Clint - FC - in my sig (-Battle Time) most of the weekends and all weekdays exept wednesday from 5pm-9pm - Time Zone - EST - Your own rules - - Prize - TBD |
Guys, drop it. If you have an arguement, take it on through PM or VM. But not here, this is not the right place for this!
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Updated! =)
Oh, and I also need more gym details to those gym leaders : - dr4g0n12 (Powerful Gym) : Quote:
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Glad you could make it, painter! XD
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Lets see if Piplup accepts you. He probably will, since he has been accepting everybody, even though not every single person deserves the spot. |
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lol wouldnt mis an opportunity to make up my own gym i just had to think of a good one and yea you can take that part out forgot about that
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Okay, Painter...you have all H&S League Badges, so you`ll be defenitly hard to beat.
(Just a secret : I lost against Greene, mike182 and leingodf). BTW, I want that dr4g0n, Gengar Master, Iyo and Yanmega read my post (the last post at page 6). Notice : All places filled within 23 hours. |
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And Gaga, if you are making recommendations on gyms the Piplup and need a second opinion or a referee, you know who you can count on. |
Greene noob quote of the month that has got to be one of the funniest things ive ever seen XD
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Thanks Greene. I had sent Piplup a VM, here it is:
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lol i wonder if he'll actually update it monthly XD
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hmm lady gaga you do make a good point there i think that the e4 would be awesome with colors and im down with a change to that if all the other e4s are
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Great ideas, lady! (LOL. Lady. XD)
Venusaur, I choose you! XD |
A word to the wise, Lady Gaga is a dude I'm pretty sure.
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Here we go....
That's where you're wrong. Clearly, you've never had an unEVd battle before. I however, have about 89% of my battling experience in un-EVd battles. The only things that make them chaotic, or a "jungle" as you put it, are OHKOs, Evasions, and Sleep. Between EVd battles on YouTube and un EVd battles I've had with no OHKOs, Evasion, or Sleep, there's little difference. Except, of course, length, since EVd pokes have more HP. |
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Lady Gaga : Nice idea.
dr4g0n (Powerful Pokemon Gym) isn`t very active here... Gengar Master (Multitype Gym) : If he wants to be here, then he should change the kind of gym. Yanmega (Legend Gym) : Please guys. Take a look at his rules. He allows to use ubers with Double Team, Sand-Attack, etc! I also like the Elite 4 Idea. Now I`m going to read the 2nd VM. |
and ill take red if we change lots of my pokes are red
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Hey, people are actually listening to my ideas x3
Also, yes, I am a guy! No need to gender-blend here :] |
Okay :
Code_Green --> Green Colour crimsonstorm --> ??? Colour leingodf8 --> ??? Colour Painter --> Red Colour |
Why are the gyms closed?
i want to beat johto-pokemon gym's leader... |
cause the league was jus started yesterday
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oh okok...
i didn't know it... xD |
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Hmm, mind if I can join this league as a challenger?
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Not right now...because we have to build our teams, badges and stuff.
We`re still thinking about which new gym leader should replace the Powerful, Multitype and Legend Gym and stuff. EDIT : BE and BEAT are two different meanings! xD Sorry, I`ve misunderstood you because of my fast reading. My fault `^^ |
but i don't like to be a gym leader !
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You wont greattrader, dont worry ;]
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ok so i guess once you find a change for multigym and legend gym you will update it then or will we wait for crimson and leing for their colors
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We need two other gym leaders.
And yeah, I`ll wait for crisomstorm and leingodf8. Notice : This thread is existing exactly 24 hours right now! |
and we already got this far that is a sign that this league will suceed
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okok ...
who will be then? |
EDIT : What should I do now?
Release Yanmega (Legend Gym), Gengar Master (Multitype Gym) and dr4g0n (Powerful gym), or should I VM them, that they should change their ind of gym? |
well id go wit hthe VM but ive heard somewhere that yanmegalv55 is a hacker :O
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But I have to ev my pokemon. I`ll maybe make a 3 VS 3 at the beginning and during the time, I`ll add more pokemon in my gym team. |
It's only been a couple of hours since you sent them a message. Give them time to respond.
As for the arguments here, there's only one way to settle this. PLC (Yes, I'm shortening his name) should challenge as many people as he can here with his strongest non-uber pokemon and keep track of how many wins and losses he gets. That's the best way to learn and understand. Best places are the various leagues here. |
BTW, I may fire dr4g0n.
Not to being a child racist, but he`s 13... And I`m sure that he doesn`t ev train his pokemon. |
3 on 3 wouldn't be that bad. It could be like the Pokemon Stadium rules.
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You'd be surprised at what brats-er... kids can do. >_>
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Firing you would be stupid. Ok then...as soon as they get online, I`ll challenge them. If they win 4-0 against me, then I let them in. I`ll use pokemon that are not evd. |
I'm also only 13....Whateva! XD
I EV train.... Don't let Fire dr4gon go because of that...Find some other valid reason! XD |
ok if you think that is the best way to solve it but yes i do have all the H&S badges that is my point age doesnt matter
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Experience and a good strategy - That`s what counts on pokemon. |
yep and ive been playing for 8 years i think XD but only competitively for a few months
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yea me too i joined PC as soon as i finished my first team and it won me my first 5 matches
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