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Iyo October 17th, 2009 2:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greene1516 (Post 5231094)
Is saying somebody is better than you saying you are crap??? No, it's not, but I expect no less an assumption from you since my only experience with you was to learn that you take things too personally.

And you can't train a team competitively without training EV's, because EV's are what make a Pokemon something and not something else. You can't train a sweeper without trainign EV's because without the concentration on attack and speed he can't sweep well.

And please God, do not tell me what competitive battling is about when you have no clue. The number one motto of competitive battling is that competitive battling in not the same as the in-game story. The Battle Pike is an in-game function. Clearly you have no idea of any of the clauses for competitive battling either, because there are several that prohibit items and moves that are based solely on luck. Because something is one way in-game, never assume that is what competitive battling is about, because Nintendo did not create competitive battling, the players did.

This is going nowhere, so i'm just going to drop it.

Piplup-Trainer October 17th, 2009 2:29 PM

Guys, I hope that you ev train the pokemons, or else the challengers will defeat us.
I°know what I`m talking about. I had a battle against greene in the past (he`s the Heart & Soul Rock Leader) and lost 0-4, because I had bad moves and my pokemon weren`t ev trained.

Lady Gaga October 17th, 2009 2:36 PM

Hey Piplup, you forgot to add my clauses (its on the other page now) to my form! D;

Exactly...this league wont work out unless it is good, unique, and its solid. I think only me, Piplup, and マイケル have the solid gyms. The rest are unoriginal and dont have any proper rules.


Lets make an effort!!!!!!!!!!

PorcelainDoll October 17th, 2009 2:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piplup-Trainer (Post 5231131)
Guys, I hope that you ev train the pokemons, or else the challengers will defeat us.
I°know what I`m talking about. I had a battle against greene in the past (he`s the Heart & Soul Rock Leader) and lost 0-4, because I had bad moves and my pokemon weren`t ev trained.

I'm not planning on challenging this league, but whoever it is that has the "No Ev'd pokemon" is just being silly. Anyone who knows anything pokemon AND plans to competitively battle WILL EV their pokemon. Its life. Its not about having the upper edge it just makes a battle a battle. From what I've seen if you don't ev your pokes its like laying down in front of a truck and just waiting (albeit a short wait) for it to flatten you.

Iyo October 17th, 2009 2:39 PM

I find the lack of faith and support disturbing... Anyways... I'll try and come up with better rules...

Quote:

Originally Posted by PorcelainDoll (Post 5231185)
I'm not planning on challenging this league, but whoever it is that has the "No Ev'd pokemon" is just being silly. Anyone who knows anything pokemon AND plans to competitively battle WILL EV their pokemon. Its life. Its not about having the upper edge it just makes a battle a battle. From what I've seen if you don't ev your pokes its like laying down in front of a truck and just waiting (albeit a short wait) for it to flatten you.

Sounds like me... Suicidally-minded, but not enough to do it...

Piplup-Trainer October 17th, 2009 2:43 PM

Lady Gaga, I`ve added your rules =)

PS : Leading a league for the first time is hard...

The Roshi October 17th, 2009 2:54 PM

Lol yeah. Maybe you should reconsider what gyms are staying and who needs to change or revamp their gyms. And be more picky in the selection. Then again, it is YOUR league and whatever you have in mind for the league is what matters the most. Just a suggestion

@Iyo

If you don't know what EV training is or why it's useful, then you're never going to see Greene's point. His point is well made (and kind of obvious, sorry Iyo) and you should definitely think about what he's saying.

In competitive battling, it's not all about type effectiveness or all-powerful moves like it is in-game, it's about creating a team of pokemon with roles and abilities that complement each other and work towards a common goal or strategy. That's not to say that teams are built with one specific strategy in mind (although some are), rather that teams are built to strategically defend and attack threats and opponents of the team.

I'm no buff at competitive battling. But I have been watching youtube competitive battlers all summer long (and into the fall), played on Shoddy for a month now, and EV trained/ team built since the third generation. I'd like to say I understand the nature of competitive battling and basics of said battling.

If you need any help understanding the true importance of EV's in competitive battling then I'd be more than happy to explain. I really think that if you are to become a battler then you should look into guides on competitive battling and participate in the smogon tutoring. I myself am going to sign up for the next round of tutoring on smogon (I've missed it three times in a row now, but they are re-doing the system to make it easier for people to learn).

Don't be insulted by what he's saying, I think he's trying to help you but
A) He's saying it bluntly
B) You're taking the offensive and not really reading what he's saying
C) You have different values in the game than others

I personally think that the EV idea is novel, which matches the theme of the league, but it's not very plausible. It's not competitive battling without EV's. Anyone can just get some pokemon together and some moves and start battling. The next level is to find out what pokemon successfully uses what moveset and what EV stat spread and using it successfully and "correctly" (In the competitive battling sense of the word)

Sorry you've been upset bro =/

Piplup-Trainer October 17th, 2009 3:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by マイケル (Post 5231241)
Lol yeah. Maybe you should reconsider what gyms are staying and who needs to change or revamp their gyms. And be more picky in the selection. Then again, it is YOUR league and whatever you have in mind for the league is what matters the most. Just a suggestion

I guess you mean that I shouldn`t have 5 gym leaders which all train pokemon in a different color (one is training yellow-colored, the other red-colored, the third blue-colored, etc.).

The Roshi October 17th, 2009 3:09 PM

No, I mean that if some gym's aren't very creative then you shouldn't just automatically accept them. Again, it's up to you and your standards. And maybe some of the gyms right now aren't very well thought out and half-assed and the gym leaders need to revamp their rules and conditions on battles to make it more creative and entice more people to battle.

Piplup-Trainer October 17th, 2009 3:14 PM

Okay.
BTW, I`ve updated my Gym with more details and a better design.
Do you like the design? If yes, then I can update yours too.

PokemonLeagueChamp October 17th, 2009 3:30 PM

Let me say something. Most of my experience in battling off PC has been against unEvd pokes. Unless you constantly hit your enemy over and over again without missing with a super effective move, beating them can take a while. I've had several epic un-EV'd battles. And with no OHKO or Sleep, and quick claw allowed, my challengers will see epic battles.

Edit: EVing takes time. New PC members and battlers often can't do it. They won't be alienated in my gym. EVing doesn't in the slightest more or less competitive, it just makes some Pokes go down quicker, some slower.

Piplup-Trainer October 17th, 2009 3:46 PM

EVing takes time, that`s right.
But I`m going to ev train some of my old/new pokemon, so they are more resistent against challengers.

If you don`t ev, then you could also go for a shoddy battle.
You can choose your pokemon, legal moves, legal stats, evs and ivs.
Ta-daaa! You`ve got a team with good pokemon.

But yeah, I`m going to bed now (1:47 AM).
Good night and have a good day =)

Greene1516 October 17th, 2009 3:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemonleaguechamp (Post 5231383)
Let me say something. Most of my experience in battling off PC has been against unEvd pokes. Unless you constantly hit your enemy over and over again without missing with a super effective move, beating them can take a while. I've had several epic un-EV'd battles. And with no OHKO or Sleep, and quick claw allowed, my challengers will see epic battles.

Edit: EVing takes time. New PC members and battlers often can't do it. They won't be alienated in my gym. EVing doesn't in the slightest more or less competitive, it just makes some Pokes go down quicker, some slower.

I'd love to know who these trainers are, 'cause I've battled pretty much every battler on this site with the exception of the ladder people. All the ladder people EV train. And out of every battle I've had here, maybe 8% of them didn't EV train. There's nothing epic about 6 monkeys hitting random attack moves and seeing who luckily got more attack EV's when training, or who the RNG favours best. That's the jungle mate, not Pokemon battling.

P.S. I love how so many people are making arguments about what battling is and how important EV's are when they really haven't a clue.

The Roshi October 17th, 2009 4:08 PM

Dude you're just all up on these people lmfao. Leave 'em be if they don't get it eh? ;D

You already made one person really upset haha quota is done for the day.

Greene1516 October 17th, 2009 4:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by マイケル (Post 5231552)
Dude you're just all up on these people lmfao. Leave 'em be if they don't get it eh? ;D

You already made one person really upset haha quota is done for the day.

Since you asked then I guess I can oblige, since you clearly get me.

LilacLust October 17th, 2009 4:10 PM

basically, you should either use shoddy or start EV training.

PorcelainDoll October 17th, 2009 4:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilacLust (Post 5231561)
basically, you should either use shoddy or start EV training.


Amen.




Pie Fillerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

leingodf8 October 17th, 2009 4:45 PM

Anyways id like to sign on as oneve the elite 4.

Ill try to think up some cool rule later but id like to reserve the position if at all possible. I can tell you that all battles will be doubles

edit: geezus this league has only been going for less than 24 hours and its got 5 pages of replies o.o... impressive i guess

and i guess i should fill this out...


- Dunno what kinda gym yet. Ill deffinatly let you know tomorow
- leingodf8
- Edge
- 4253 9864 9144
- Pacific Standard Time
- Doubles battles with.... well i guess i hafta do all other standards since itll be an e4 position, though id prefer it to be 3 UU/NU and 3 OU/BL
- Uhhh.... An ev'd pokemon of your choice (as in ill breed and trade you one once you win, may take a bit of time)

PokemonLeagueChamp October 17th, 2009 4:50 PM

Nah, EVing isn't important, non-EVd's still need strategy.

Lady Gaga October 17th, 2009 4:54 PM

Yes, I would like my form updated.

Turtle Gym
Leader : Lady Gaga


Status : Currently closed
Shoddy Name : TurtleGaga
Shoddy Server : Smogon University

Battle Time : I am usually busy, but PM me when you want to challenge me, and we will make a time.
Time Zone : EST (GMT -5) (Ontario, Canada)

Rules :

- Battles will be on Shoddy Battle
- No ubers, and only 1 OU Pokemon
- Fair IVs and EVs (read the Baby Gym's rules for examples)
- Only 3 main pokemon (I will only use 3 as well) ~ other 3 must be Bidoof. So once the main three pokemon are defeated, the preson defeated must forfeit the match.

Clauses :
- Uber Clause (Those Pokemon are not allowed :
http://www.smogon.com/dp/tiers/uber)
- OHKO Clause (Moves, which kill pokemon with one hit, are not allowed. Those are Horn Drill, Fissure, Guillotine and Sheer Cold)
- Evasion Clause ("Attack-Accuracy decreasing Moves" are not allowed. Those are Double Team, Sand-Attack and Minimize)
- Sleep Clause (You are allowed to make just one of the opponents pokemon sleep - oppenent pokemon using rest doesn`t count)
- Illegal Hacks Clause (Pokemon with 999 HP/ATK/DEF/SP.ATK/SP.DEF/SPD are not allowed)
- Hax Item Clause (Items like Focus Band are not allowed)

Prize : Shell Badge, 1 Turtwig Egg, 1 Squirtle Egg, 1 Mystery Egg (these are stored in my Pearl game. My FC will only be revealed to those who defeat me!)

Kamui October 17th, 2009 4:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemonleaguechamp (Post 5231734)
Nah, EVing isn't important, non-EVd's still need strategy.

Ev can make the difference of up to 63 stats points. Now you tell if it makes any difference or not ;)
+
Nature makes up another 10% difference =)

PokemonLeagueChamp October 17th, 2009 6:25 PM

That just makes battles longer, and postpones the inevitable.

Edit: Oh yeah, update my rules to include Evasion Clause.

Greene1516 October 17th, 2009 6:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemonleaguechamp (Post 5232056)
That just makes battles longer, and postpones the inevitable.

Dude seriously, quit while you are ahead, you have no idea what you are even talking about and you are making yourself look stupid and ultra-noobish. And the time you battled me should have been proof that your statement is a load of bull since all my guys are EV trained and I swept you in about 3minutes.

BTW, how you think EV training makes battles longer is beyond me, since when you don't EV train you still get those 63 extra stat points, just they are randomly scattered and usually in stats you don't use; basically it means your Pokemon is weaker.

All the same, I'm sigging these last two quotes from you because they are just so rofl lol any other stupid phrases that involve laughing.

crimsonstorm October 17th, 2009 8:29 PM

Hey Pip, I think I've decided on my gym.

Gym: Black Pyramid

Type: Pokemon that are creepy in appearance/monstrous

Rules: 6 verus 6 single, standard with item clause(no more than 1 of each item)
Teams must consist of 3 uu/nu and 3 ou, bl counts as ou. No entry hazard such as stealth rock, toxic spikes, or spikes. Sandstream and snow warning however is allowed.

Badge: Banshee's tear


I know the rules and type seem weird, but I wanted something a little off the wall for elite. :)

Code October 18th, 2009 1:52 AM

Wow, 5 pages when I was sleeping! XD
Just want to confirm that I'm still here, though I don't have my computer yet. :(
I will fill in the form later. :)

YanmegaLv55 October 18th, 2009 2:32 AM

Legend Gym
YanmegaLv55
Plato
I will give a friend code when needed
Time Zone: UTC +11
Rules:
-Cannot Have that same Pokemon Twice
-No Focus Sashes
-Minimum of 3 Pokemon,Maximum of 6
Prize: Awesome Badge and One of the following Shiny Pokemon
-Golbat
-Staraptor
-Pidgey

SacredMiKeY October 18th, 2009 2:46 AM

will ubers be allowed cause if so i doubt itll work
so u may wanna be specific on the legendaries

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 2:58 AM

So...I`m here again.
Okay, one new elite four member and 1 new gym leader.
I`ll add you both and update Lady Gagas and crimsonstorms Gym =)

BTW, Many thanks from me to leinfgod and crimsonstorm that they have joined this league.
I know that both are strong, so it won`t be easy to pass the Elite Four =)

Code October 18th, 2009 3:02 AM

My rules:
- Kind of E-4 Green Color
- PC Name:
Code_Green
- In-game name Jason
- FC 3051 7039 3803
-Battle Time Send request. I will respond. :)
- Time Zone Same as above.
- Your own rules Sleep, hax, hacked, OHKO, and Uber clauses. OU. I will only use pokemon of the color green.
- Prize Egg move pokemon and badge.

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 3:48 AM

Ummm...you have reserved a Elite Four member place...

Code October 18th, 2009 3:55 AM

Oh! I mean Colour E-4! XD

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 4:00 AM

Okay, so no badge...
BTW, I`ll may use the same E4 rule like in the H&S League
Before you battle the E4, you can change your Pokemon.
Once started a battle with the first E4 member, you are not allowed to change your team, unless you loose.

Code October 18th, 2009 4:10 AM

Forget the "You may only use a monocolour team." part if that is the case. I'm allowed to use NFE pokemon if they are green.
:)

LilacLust October 18th, 2009 4:45 AM

i might have joined, but i dont think i am strong enough for an elite place XD
so i will probably sit this one out

PokemonLeagueChamp October 18th, 2009 4:51 AM

Greene, not EVing is the game norm. My ideas are not way over the top. If it wasn't for things like the Smogon article, this wouldn't be a problem.
PS: Not EVing isn't nooby. EVing means you're so hardcore that you really have nothing better to do than do a crapload of math for stats for a game. IT'S JUST A GAME. Don't take it so seriously.

Lady Gaga October 18th, 2009 4:52 AM

Well, come be a Gym Leader then! Though, please put some effort into your gym, because some arnt good, and I will have to have a talk with Piplup.

SacredMiKeY October 18th, 2009 4:52 AM

u know ur not going to win in a rant with greene id jus give it up

LilacLust October 18th, 2009 4:54 AM

all gyms are taken XD .

PokemonLeagueChamp October 18th, 2009 4:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greene1516 (Post 5232134)
All the same, I'm sigging these last two quotes from you because they are just so rofl lol any other stupid phrases that involve laughing.

That's REEEAL mature.
fillllller

SacredMiKeY October 18th, 2009 4:55 AM

lol sorry dude but i almost fell outta my chair when i saw wat he did
no offense

Lady Gaga October 18th, 2009 4:56 AM

Well, I am going to fight for some to be taken out. Especially the E4, only 1 of them is good :/

PokemonLeagueChamp October 18th, 2009 4:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SacredMiKeY (Post 5233815)
u know ur not going to win in a rant with greene id jus give it up

Nah, givin up's for wimps. Besides, there's no wrong side to the argument. Not EVing is fine, EVing is fine. They're as much battling styles as anything else.

SacredMiKeY October 18th, 2009 4:57 AM

lol i know that but its gonna keep dragging on and on and on like the energizer bunny XD

LilacLust October 18th, 2009 4:58 AM

we have the next 50 or so years of our lives to be mature XD enjoy immaturity while you can. its a virtue :P
why are you trying to insult someone just because they have a sense of humour? XD

PokemonLeagueChamp October 18th, 2009 4:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilacLust (Post 5233829)
we have the next 50 or so years of our lives to be mature XD enjoy immaturity while you can. its a virtue :P
why are you trying to insult someone just because they have a sense of humour? XD

Because it's at my expense.

Oh, and Piplup_Trainer, my time zone is US EST.

Code October 18th, 2009 5:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemonleaguechamp (Post 5233811)
Greene, not EVing is the game norm. My ideas are not way over the top. If it wasn't for things like the Smogon article, this wouldn't be a problem.
PS: Not EVing isn't nooby. EVing means you're so hardcore that you really have nothing better to do than do a crapload of math for stats for a game. IT'S JUST A GAME. Don't take it so seriously.

Not EVing isn't n00by, it just gives you zero reason to be a gym leader in the first place. The whole point of competitive battling is making your pokemon as good as possible, and without EV training it will just end up as a random battle, siince you can't predict if your oponent is faster that you, if their base speed is about the same. For example a pokemon with a moveset from a smogon article, would often have EVs as that article recomended. Without this, you can never be sure if your pokemon will survive an attack, or if it'll harm or outspeed the opponent.

PokemonLeagueChamp October 18th, 2009 5:04 AM

Well, that's where you need ACTUAL STRATEGY, the whole point of battling. Competitive battling wasn't made for "OMG I gots to EV my Pokemon all week or it ain't worth ****", it's supposed to be "oh jeez, he used that move? how should i counter? hmm....."

Painter October 18th, 2009 5:05 AM

ELITE FORM
- Kind of Gym- Winged beasts gym
- PC Name - Painter http://www.pokecommunity.com/member.php?u=164722
- In-game name - Clint
- FC - in my sig
(-Battle Time) most of the weekends and all weekdays exept wednesday from 5pm-9pm
- Time Zone - EST
- Your own rules -
- Prize - TBD

Lady Gaga October 18th, 2009 5:06 AM

Guys, drop it. If you have an arguement, take it on through PM or VM. But not here, this is not the right place for this!

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 5:07 AM

Updated! =)

Oh, and I also need more gym details to those gym leaders :

- dr4g0n12 (Powerful Gym) :
Quote:

The gym name is not detailed enough. What pokemon are you going to use? Pokemon, that have a high ATK-Value? Pokemon, that have "muscles" (like Machamp, Hariyama, ...)? I also need more details at your Rules.
- Gengar Master (Multitype Gym)
Quote:

Just list the standard tiers and standard clauses.
- Iyo (Trade gym)
Quote:

Are you sure that you can build up a very good team with that kind of gym?
Just choose the pokemon that you`re going to choose and VM your team to me.
I`ll check it and delete the VM, so nobody will see your team.
- YanmegaLv55 (Legend Gym) :
Quote:

Do you mean ALL Legendaries (including Ubers) or not?
If you decide to include all Ubers, then I would change your kind of gym, because no gym leader uses Uber, like Arceus, Giratina, Dialga, Palkia, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, etc. Just take a look at my Gym Clauses. You`ll find a list of all ubers there.
And BTW, I would edit your clause too, because you allow Users to use Ubers (like Arceus, Giratina and stuff), to use One-Hit KO Attacks (like Geofissure), to use Moves like Double Team, Sand Attack, Minimize, etc. Without that rules, winning against you will be a cakewalk.
I know, many guys know what standard rules are. But if a new user challenges you, then you can avoid that he`s asking : "What are the standard rules?", by listing the clauses and a short description (like I do) - or you can also say "Clauses : The same clauses that are listed at Piplup-Trainers/Lady Gagas Gym".

Code October 18th, 2009 5:07 AM

Glad you could make it, painter! XD

Lady Gaga October 18th, 2009 5:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painter (Post 5233844)
ELITE FORM
- Kind of Gym- Winged beasts gym
- PC Name - Painter http://www.pokecommunity.com/member.php?u=164722
- In-game name - Clint
- FC - in my sig
(-Battle Time) most of the weekends and all weekdays exept wednesday from 5pm-9pm
- Time Zone - EST
- Your own rules - no entry hazards (stealth rock, spikes, toxic spikes)
- Prize - TBD

1. Winged Beasts. Thats just flying types and dragons. How easy is that? 2. Take out your own rules. The challenger can not change his/her team once he/she is facing the E4, so his/her team may not accomidate for your rules. Sorry.

Lets see if Piplup accepts you. He probably will, since he has been accepting everybody, even though not every single person deserves the spot.

PokemonLeagueChamp October 18th, 2009 5:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Gaga (Post 5233848)
Guys, drop it. If you have an arguement, take it on through PM or VM. But not here, this is not the right place for this!

Lemme see if I can make a "EV Training Debate" thread before we have to fill our inboxes and smother our pages in arguing.

Painter October 18th, 2009 5:09 AM

lol wouldnt mis an opportunity to make up my own gym i just had to think of a good one and yea you can take that part out forgot about that

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 5:14 AM

Okay, Painter...you have all H&S League Badges, so you`ll be defenitly hard to beat.
(Just a secret : I lost against Greene, mike182 and leingodf).

BTW, I want that dr4g0n, Gengar Master, Iyo and Yanmega read my post (the last post at page 6).

Notice : All places filled within 23 hours.

Greene1516 October 18th, 2009 5:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemonleaguechamp (Post 5233842)
Well, that's where you need ACTUAL STRATEGY, the whole point of battling. Competitive battling wasn't made for "OMG I gots to EV my Pokemon all week or it ain't worth ****", it's supposed to be "oh jeez, he used that move? how should i counter? hmm....."

No what Code said is spot on. You can't counter moves, you counter Pokemon. The strategy of Pokemon is prediction and synergy. As Code said without EV's everything is unpredictable and you can't even second guess what to do next so you have to just go with it and choose your strongest move, again, we are back in the jungle. But I am not ging to argue with you because you will never see another person's point of view, it has always been that way since you joined here, and all I can say about that is good luck to you because you will never learn or improve with that attitude.

And Gaga, if you are making recommendations on gyms the Piplup and need a second opinion or a referee, you know who you can count on.

Painter October 18th, 2009 5:17 AM

Greene noob quote of the month that has got to be one of the funniest things ive ever seen XD

Lady Gaga October 18th, 2009 5:18 AM

Thanks Greene. I had sent Piplup a VM, here it is:

Quote:

Okay, if you know whats good for you and your league, you should seriously consider taking out these gyms:

Powerful Pokemon Gym
Multi-type Gym
Legend Gym

They are unoriginal, and really can let them use any pokemon they want. No originality at all. Please, PLEASE take them out. Also, take out all of the E4 (except the green-color). Black Pyramid? Again, unoriginal, I know all he is gonna use is like a Salamence team and stuff. Really stupid. Also, both his and the oothers E4s rules state that they need to fight specific pokemon, but that cant happen since the Challenger can not change their team once they are facing the E4. So, please, please, please, please take them out. It would make your League so much better.

Oh! An idea! How about the gyms be creative ones, like Trade, Baby, Turtle, etc..., and then the E4 be color based! Green, Red, Blue, and Yellow! (like the 4 original Pokemon games. Maybe even each can have Venusaur, Charizard, Blastoise, and Raichu respectively)...

These are just my ideas, but if you use them, I guarantee that eveybody will like the changes, and more people would come to challenge your league. Thats coming from a fellow Gym Leader! :]

Also, I believe the Winged Beasts E4 not that original. Thats Legendary Birds, Salamence, basically every Dragon and Flying type. Though, I would love to have Painter with us, so maybe a change in theme?

SacredMiKeY October 18th, 2009 5:19 AM

lol i wonder if he'll actually update it monthly XD
and i totally agree with her

jahz October 18th, 2009 5:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greene1516 (Post 5233869)
No what Code said is spot on. You can't counter moves, you counter Pokemon. The strategy of Pokemon is prediction and synergy. As Code said without EV's everything is unpredictable and you can't even second guess what to do next so you have to just go with it and choose your strongest move, again, we are back in the jungle. But I am not ging to argue with you because you will never see another person's point of view, it has always been that way since you joined here, and all I can say about that is good luck to you because you will never learn or improve with that attitude.

And Gaga, if you are making recommendations on gyms the Piplup and need a second opinion or a referee, you know who you can count on.

theres a worthwhile rant to add to the battling bible

Painter October 18th, 2009 5:20 AM

hmm lady gaga you do make a good point there i think that the e4 would be awesome with colors and im down with a change to that if all the other e4s are

Code October 18th, 2009 5:21 AM

Great ideas, lady! (LOL. Lady. XD)
Venusaur, I choose you! XD

Greene1516 October 18th, 2009 5:22 AM

A word to the wise, Lady Gaga is a dude I'm pretty sure.

PokemonLeagueChamp October 18th, 2009 5:22 AM

Here we go....
That's where you're wrong. Clearly, you've never had an unEVd battle before. I however, have about 89% of my battling experience in un-EVd battles. The only things that make them chaotic, or a "jungle" as you put it, are OHKOs, Evasions, and Sleep. Between EVd battles on YouTube and un EVd battles I've had with no OHKOs, Evasion, or Sleep, there's little difference. Except, of course, length, since EVd pokes have more HP.

Code October 18th, 2009 5:23 AM

Quote:

A word to the wise, Lady Gaga is a dude I'm pretty sure.
'That is why I LOLed. XD
Anyways, I can't wait untill somebody reaches E-4! That's gonna be a long time, since it hasn't even opened yet. XD


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Originally Posted by pokemonleaguechamp (Post 5233886)
Here we go....
That's where you're wrong. Clearly, you've never had an unEVd battle before. I however, have about 89% of my battling experience in un-EVd battles. The only things that make them chaotic, or a "jungle" as you put it, are OHKOs, Evasions, and Sleep. Between EVd battles on YouTube and un EVd battles I've had with no OHKOs, Evasion, or Sleep, there's little difference. Except, of course, length, since EVd pokes have more HP.

Clearly you haven't had too many Evd battles. This is ridiculous. How can you say this? If your hitmoncha has trained against a lot of gyaradoses, you have a big advantage without even thinking about it.

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 5:28 AM

Lady Gaga : Nice idea.
dr4g0n (Powerful Pokemon Gym) isn`t very active here...
Gengar Master (Multitype Gym) : If he wants to be here, then he should change the kind of gym.
Yanmega (Legend Gym) : Please guys. Take a look at his rules. He allows to use ubers with Double Team, Sand-Attack, etc!
I also like the Elite 4 Idea.

Now I`m going to read the 2nd VM.

Painter October 18th, 2009 5:32 AM

and ill take red if we change lots of my pokes are red

Lady Gaga October 18th, 2009 5:34 AM

Hey, people are actually listening to my ideas x3

Also, yes, I am a guy! No need to gender-blend here :]

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 5:35 AM

Okay :
Code_Green --> Green Colour
crimsonstorm --> ??? Colour
leingodf8 --> ??? Colour
Painter --> Red Colour

greattrader October 18th, 2009 5:39 AM

Why are the gyms closed?
i want to beat johto-pokemon gym's leader...

SacredMiKeY October 18th, 2009 5:40 AM

cause the league was jus started yesterday

greattrader October 18th, 2009 5:43 AM

oh okok...
i didn't know it... xD

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 5:45 AM

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Originally Posted by greattrader (Post 5233947)
Why are the gyms closed?
i want to beat johto-pokemon gym's leader...

Hmmm...I could need a guy that is during the summer and winter holidays the gym leader of the Johto-Pokemon Gym...

Painter October 18th, 2009 5:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Gaga (Post 5233927)
Hey, people are actually listening to my ideas x3

thats cuz they are good ideas ^^

Red_Star_Chris October 18th, 2009 5:51 AM

Hmm, mind if I can join this league as a challenger?

Lady Gaga October 18th, 2009 5:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Piplup-Trainer (Post 5233974)
Hmmm...I could need a guy that is during the summer and winter holidays the gym leader of the Johto-Pokemon Gym...

No, I think he meant he wanted to challenge you x3

greattrader October 18th, 2009 5:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Piplup-Trainer (Post 5233974)
Hmmm...I could need a guy that is during the summer and winter holidays the gym leader of the Johto-Pokemon Gym...

but you are already the johto-pokemon gym's leader !

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 5:53 AM

Not right now...because we have to build our teams, badges and stuff.
We`re still thinking about which new gym leader should replace the Powerful, Multitype and Legend Gym and stuff.

EDIT : BE and BEAT are two different meanings! xD
Sorry, I`ve misunderstood you because of my fast reading.
My fault `^^

greattrader October 18th, 2009 5:57 AM

but i don't like to be a gym leader !

Lady Gaga October 18th, 2009 6:00 AM

You wont greattrader, dont worry ;]

Painter October 18th, 2009 6:03 AM

ok so i guess once you find a change for multigym and legend gym you will update it then or will we wait for crimson and leing for their colors

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 6:06 AM

We need two other gym leaders.
And yeah, I`ll wait for crisomstorm and leingodf8.

Notice : This thread is existing exactly 24 hours right now!

Painter October 18th, 2009 6:12 AM

and we already got this far that is a sign that this league will suceed

greattrader October 18th, 2009 6:12 AM

okok ...
who will be then?

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 6:13 AM

EDIT : What should I do now?
Release Yanmega (Legend Gym), Gengar Master (Multitype Gym) and dr4g0n (Powerful gym), or should I VM them, that they should change their ind of gym?

Painter October 18th, 2009 6:15 AM

well id go wit hthe VM but ive heard somewhere that yanmegalv55 is a hacker :O

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 6:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Painter (Post 5234109)
and we already got this far that is a sign that this league will suceed

I have this feeling too.
But I have to ev my pokemon.
I`ll maybe make a 3 VS 3 at the beginning and during the time, I`ll add more pokemon in my gym team.

Griffinbane October 18th, 2009 6:17 AM

It's only been a couple of hours since you sent them a message. Give them time to respond.

As for the arguments here, there's only one way to settle this. PLC (Yes, I'm shortening his name) should challenge as many people as he can here with his strongest non-uber pokemon and keep track of how many wins and losses he gets. That's the best way to learn and understand. Best places are the various leagues here.

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 6:18 AM

BTW, I may fire dr4g0n.
Not to being a child racist, but he`s 13...
And I`m sure that he doesn`t ev train his pokemon.

Red_Star_Chris October 18th, 2009 6:19 AM

3 on 3 wouldn't be that bad. It could be like the Pokemon Stadium rules.

Painter October 18th, 2009 6:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Piplup-Trainer (Post 5234135)
BTW, I may fire dr4g0n.
Not to being a child racist, but he`s 13...
And I` sure that he doesn`t ev train his pokemon.

dude let it go im only 14 are you gonna fire me just cuz of that

Griffinbane October 18th, 2009 6:21 AM

You'd be surprised at what brats-er... kids can do. >_>

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 6:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Painter (Post 5234141)
dude let it go im only 14 are you gonna fire me just cuz of that

But you`ve got all H&S League badges.
Firing you would be stupid.

Ok then...as soon as they get online, I`ll challenge them.
If they win 4-0 against me, then I let them in.
I`ll use pokemon that are not evd.

Code October 18th, 2009 6:24 AM

I'm also only 13....Whateva! XD
I EV train....
Don't let Fire dr4gon go because of that...Find some other valid reason! XD

Painter October 18th, 2009 6:24 AM

ok if you think that is the best way to solve it but yes i do have all the H&S badges that is my point age doesnt matter

Code October 18th, 2009 6:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Piplup-Trainer (Post 5234151)
But you`ve got all H&S League badges.
Firing you would be stupid.

Ok then...as soon as they get online, I`ll challenge them.
If they win 4-0 against me, then I let them in.
I`ll use pokemon that are not evd.

EDIT: Ninja. Good idea! :)
Filler dance. XD

Piplup-Trainer October 18th, 2009 6:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Painter (Post 5234157)
ok if you think that is the best way to solve it but yes i do have all the H&S badges that is my point age doesnt matter

You`re right. I`m playing Pokemon for ten years and I`m sure that you`re stronger than me.
Experience and a good strategy - That`s what counts on pokemon.

Painter October 18th, 2009 6:29 AM

yep and ive been playing for 8 years i think XD but only competitively for a few months

Code October 18th, 2009 6:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Painter (Post 5234177)
yep and ive been playing for 8 years i think XD but only competitively for a few months

Same here. I started competitively right after I joined PC. XD

Painter October 18th, 2009 6:34 AM

yea me too i joined PC as soon as i finished my first team and it won me my first 5 matches


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