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Greene1516 December 18th, 2009 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by skaterdude6115 (Post 5398610)
Yo does anyone know if it's possible to get a missingno in diamond or platinum

If you mess up your game with constant hacking and physical abuse then maybe :)

nui876 December 20th, 2009 10:43 AM

my best trade
 
My best trade was my latias lv 100 for an japenese pokemon emerald event mew lv 100 in my pokemon platinum

Detox December 22nd, 2009 8:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chains (Post 5389044)
God damn PokeRadar Abuse is so hard X_x
Im trying to RNG Abuse a Togepi and uhh its just so difficuly :(
You have to calculate all your steps and watch the Patches that show up and uhhhh it sucks....
I did everything right and was supposed to get this
Calm
31/X/31/31/30/31
Seren Grace
Togepi

But instead this piece of _____ popped up
Gloom
Calm
31/X/31/31/30/31
Uhhh so back to doing the whole process again.......


If you have that Gloom I so want it. Epic ass Bellossom

Chains December 22nd, 2009 8:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 5414197)
If you have that Gloom I so want it. Epic ass Bellossom

Hahah unfortuneatly no i dont :( I didnt think Calm was a good nature for it and i was going for togepi :P Ended up finally giving up on the PokeRadar Project thats just too difficuly, my frame kept being extrmely higher then i advanced it for no reason and kept passing the frame i needed X_x
If you want i can catch the Gloom again it wouldnt be that hard :P VM me Saturday ill probably have it then XD

Detox December 22nd, 2009 8:18 PM

Cool

Ugh, Im so bored. someone suggest something for me to breeed then give away.

TheAppleFreak December 23rd, 2009 8:19 AM

I dunno... Riolu I guess?

And why are you trying to Radar abuse to RNG ab-- oh, duh! Forget that.
Just get an AR from a friend to get your SID, then give it back and never see it again.

No, you fail December 23rd, 2009 8:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 5414258)
Cool

Ugh, Im so bored. someone suggest something for me to breeed then give away.

0/0/0/0/0/0 relaxed male luvdisc please. That would just be epic.

Chains December 23rd, 2009 9:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAppleFreak (Post 5415212)
I dunno... Riolu I guess?

And why are you trying to Radar abuse to RNG ab-- oh, duh! Forget that.
Just get an AR from a friend to get your SID, then give it back and never see it again.

What are you talking about? SID has nothing to do with PokeRadar Abuse inless your using one of your Shiny Spreads
And Syndrome do a........ Naughty 31/31/31/28/31/31 Hidden Power: Electric 70 Technician Scizor :D

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Originally Posted by shinyninetales (Post 5415221)
0/0/0/0/0/0 relaxed male luvdisc please. That would just be epic.


Lol someone actually did that on Smogon XD And it was Shiny too XD

Detox December 23rd, 2009 9:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chains (Post 5415312)
What are you talking about? SID has nothing to do with PokeRadar Abuse inless your using one of your Shiny Spreads
And Syndrome do a........ Naughty 31/31/31/28/31/31 Hidden Power: Electric 70 Technician Scizor :D




Lol someone actually did that on Smogon XD And it was Shiny too XD


I used to have a copy of that thing.



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Originally Posted by shinyninetales (Post 5415221)
0/0/0/0/0/0 relaxed male luvdisc please. That would just be epic.


Ill nickname it iSuck.

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Originally Posted by TheAppleFreak (Post 5415212)
I dunno... Riolu I guess?

And why are you trying to Radar abuse to RNG ab-- oh, duh! Forget that.
Just get an AR from a friend to get your SID, then give it back and never see it again.

I hate Lucario.....Always messes up my sweeps with extremespeed.

Griffinbane December 23rd, 2009 9:43 AM

Guess what I'm breeding?
....Farfetch'd.

SCV058 December 23rd, 2009 9:58 AM

Really?

I'm breeding Luvdisc (=

stavross December 23rd, 2009 10:04 AM

lol how about me
breeding weedles xD

Griffinbane December 23rd, 2009 10:06 AM

Luvdisc with straight 0 IVs? xD
I decided to look up the worst pokemon on Smogon. Nearly fell out of my chair after reading the thingy for Farfetch'd and Luvdisc. xD

Lokiman42 December 23rd, 2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SCV058 (Post 5415448)
Really?

I'm breeding Luvdisc (=

I HEART Luvdisc! You beat me to the punch, I'm still new to Generation IV so I don't quite have the means to breed my own yet.

No, you fail December 23rd, 2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Griffinbane (Post 5415467)
Luvdisc with straight 0 IVs? xD
I decided to look up the worst pokemon on Smogon. Nearly fell out of my chair after reading the thingy for Farfetch'd and Luvdisc. xD


If the team as no priority or physical walls I can sweep with luvdisc. Not that hard actually.

Chains December 23rd, 2009 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shinyninetales (Post 5415483)
If the team as no priority or physical walls I can sweep with luvdisc. Not that hard actually.

I dont think anyone will ever be "Sweeping" with Luvdisc XD It only reches a base 95 Sp.Atk in Rain (with a +Sp.Atk and 31 IV's) XD And i dont think it will be OHKOing much with that...... It got good Speed though but nothing else XD

Detox December 23rd, 2009 2:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoney Kong http://www.pokecommunity.com/images/templates/winterfriends/buttons/viewpost.gif
Actually, Dragonite, with the right set, can LITERALLY 1-2HKO EVERY pokemon in OU, therefore meaning Salamence is a inferior Dragonite. (not really, but in raw power, yes...)
Want the set?


Oh my god this is the bad qoute of the year.

No, you fail December 23rd, 2009 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chains (Post 5416211)
I dont think anyone will ever be "Sweeping" with Luvdisc XD It only reches a base 95 Sp.Atk in Rain (with a +Sp.Atk and 31 IV's) XD And i dont think it will be OHKOing much with that...... It got good Speed though but nothing else XD


eww who said a special one.

I use:
adamant @ liechi berry
252att/252speed
~endure
~flail
~waterfall
~toxic

Make sure you have rain dance up so you get swift swim then you endure and liechi berry activates and you flail like hell.

Uzumaki_King December 23rd, 2009 4:39 PM

Me too! :3 But I prefer EVd pokemon over legends usually. I've got plenty to offer too! Hit me up, and I can see if I got what u need. ;D

Detox December 26th, 2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by shinyninetales (Post 5416367)
eww who said a special one.

I use:
adamant @ liechi berry
252att/252speed
~endure
~flail
~waterfall
~toxic

Make sure you have rain dance up so you get swift swim then you endure and liechi berry activates and you flail like hell.

But your outspeed by quiet floatzel and 12HKO'd by its boosted HP water 21

Lokiman42 December 28th, 2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 5423603)
But your outspeed by quiet floatzel and 12HKO'd by its boosted HP water 21

It's difficult to predict the outcome of any battle. While you may be right in some ways, his set up for Luvdisc isn't bad at all. It all depends on the situation and how your opponent plays.

Detox December 28th, 2009 11:39 AM

Do you not know we are joking around...

Lokiman42 December 28th, 2009 1:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 5428333)
Do you not know we are joking around...

I couldn't tell if you were serious or not. That explains you saying 12HKO.... meh w.e

Griffinbane December 28th, 2009 1:55 PM

I'm not sure what to do! Trade all my breeders (and by definition my competitive fighters because I use them to breed too) to SS when it comes out, or leave it in my Platinum and transfer all my shop pokemon over there. I want the HG/SS egg moves available to me but that's a lot of pokemon to transfer. Either way, it means hours of trading over with intermediates. D:

Detox December 28th, 2009 2:43 PM

Ew, I'm so lonely... Anyone wanna be trade partners and merge threads?

Horus_21 December 28th, 2009 3:14 PM

wondering if anyone could help me, i have diamond, but i'm having trouble cloning pokemon =[

thegeneticway December 28th, 2009 8:16 PM

Sorry can't help you there.


But Hi!


I'm um, a person, and I'm bored.

Kudo December 28th, 2009 10:24 PM

Well, I finished obtaining 6 pokemon for someone. It was a real easy task but now I'm having a bit of trouble getting a time to trade setup. Besides just VM/PMing whenever it says they're on, anyone got any good tips for getting a proper time set-up of such coincidences seem so rare?

Also working on Battle Frontier stuff since I need enough points to teach a Sunflora Earth Power. I finish a 7 battle streak and then it has a yes/no option but since the question is in Japanese I don't know which to choose, I always seem to choose one and I get sent back to the bottom floor with only 2-3 BP...somehow this has happened 3 times...I swear I tried both, what am I to do?

And last, I have a Brave Bird Murkrow I promised someone...I'll get to messaging them later, although I may still have some work to do on it's IVs (and as far as I'm concerned, there's no RNG for HG/SS due to there being no pokewalker).

THAT REMINDS ME. Warning, mini-rant but I've kept the language family safe

Out of many of the trade threads, I see many offers of supposedly "legit" legendaries. Is nobody here doing the math?! For at least 2 decent IVs and proper nature with a Synchronizer I'd say it's 2/32 (choices 30 or 31 over 32 possible IVs, or 0-31) x 2/32 (2nd IV) x 1/2 (nature synchro, it might be less, it might be more, not sure but this is pushing it) = 1/512. Even if they have insane luck, are they really soft-resetting 200+ times? And they claim they're SHINY on top of it. NEWSFLASH they haven't cracked the RNG for normal capture so there's no legit trick to getting these. I smell all-encounter-shiny cheats all over. Keep in mind most people don't even encounter a single shiny throughout their ENTIRE play-through. So are they REALLY soft-reseting as many times as you've ran into a wild pokemon? If so, stop playing pokemon and buy some lottery tickets GEEZ. And 2 IVs and nature is the MINIMUM, what about those offering near perfect IVs? Notice this is only legendaries, normal shiny/perfect IV pokemon can be RNG.

But now, we have HG/SS. Where no RNG has been cracked and people claim to be able to give perfect IV+Nature pokemon WITH HG/SS BREED ONLY MOVES. Good IVs + Nature I can see, get the right ditto, or one you RNG in DPPt and use the proper breed item. But perfect with Shiny. No. Is it possible to get such? Yes. 1/754329085742380 is still a legit chance, BUT REALLY?

Actually, let me do the math for what some of you claim to have achieved for these legendaries:
(perfect IVs) 1/32 x 1/32 x 1/32 x 1/32 x 1/32 x 1/32 x (Nature, synchro) 1/2 x (Shiny) 1/8192 = 1/17,592,186,044,416

You know what can get you something like that to pass legit checkers? Just a few things, action replays and pokesav, preferably pokesav. As a matter a fact, it's been confirmed pokesav can create things that'll even pass Nintendo's hack checks. Stop lying to yourselves...it only looks legit.

Had to get that off my chest, sorry if it's the wrong place for it.

TwilightBlade December 29th, 2009 7:45 AM

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Well, I finished obtaining 6 pokemon for someone. It was a real easy task but now I'm having a bit of trouble getting a time to trade setup. Besides just VM/PMing whenever it says they're on, anyone got any good tips for getting a proper time set-up of such coincidences seem so rare?
Download an instant messenger, such as AIM, MSN, or Yahoo and talk to each other when you two are online? Do you know each others' timezones?

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Also working on Battle Frontier stuff since I need enough points to teach a Sunflora Earth Power. I finish a 7 battle streak and then it has a yes/no option but since the question is in Japanese I don't know which to choose, I always seem to choose one and I get sent back to the bottom floor with only 2-3 BP...somehow this has happened 3 times...I swear I tried both, what am I to do?
Lol, no idea about this... I'd have to look, but the last option would be something like, "Would you like to save the last battle in your Video Recorder?".

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And last, I have a Brave Bird Murkrow I promised someone...I'll get to messaging them later, although I may still have some work to do on it's IVs (and as far as I'm concerned, there's no RNG for HG/SS due to there being no pokewalker).
There is the PokeWalker for HGSS, but not PokeRadar. RNG abuse can be used in either regardless. I believe RNG is in many games, but in Pokemon, we are just aware of it and can manipulate the delay and frame to reach that shiny or flawless Pokemon hiding. However, if you attach a power item, the parent's IV will pass down. For example, Power Bracer EVs in Attack, so attaching it to the father would pass down his Attack IV.

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Even if they have insane luck, are they really soft-resetting 200+ times? And they claim they're SHINY on top of it. NEWSFLASH they haven't cracked the RNG for normal capture so there's no legit trick to getting these. I smell all-encounter-shiny cheats all over. Keep in mind most people don't even encounter a single shiny throughout their ENTIRE play-through. So are they REALLY soft-reseting as many times as you've ran into a wild pokemon? If so, stop playing pokemon and buy some lottery tickets GEEZ. And 2 IVs and nature is the MINIMUM, what about those offering near perfect IVs? Notice this is only legendaries, normal shiny/perfect IV pokemon can be RNG.
Uh, I have soft reset for 4 days for one shiny legendary... Then 11 months for another...It's not that hard, although their stats were bad. People are most likely RNGing, but you have to ask the original owner. If he/she seems knowledgeable and credible, it's best to give him/her the benefit of the doubt. ANYTHING can be RNGd, even wondercard Pokemon and Bebe's Eevee and stuff like that. If it's a monster, it can be RNG'd, although some wondercard events and stuff have an anti-shiny check.

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But now, we have HG/SS. Where no RNG has been cracked and people claim to be able to give perfect IV+Nature pokemon WITH HG/SS BREED ONLY MOVES.
RNG has been cracked by a select few on Smogon. One would advance the RNG by the radio.

You may be good at math, but you need to start using your eyes and look for the articles. :)

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You know what can get you something like that to pass legit checkers? Just a few things, action replays and pokesav, preferably pokesav.
You're right, several things I thought were hacked appeared to pass. The only thing that has failed legal.exe, in my experience, was a Tyranitar in a Cherish ball caught at level 100 in a city. Anyone could spot something so obvious, though. Legal.exe does not really check to see if a "forced shiny" code was used. It just checks simple values and information. :(

Kudo December 29th, 2009 9:26 AM

I appreciate this response immensely, finally some answers. This issue has been bothering me since I came to this forum.

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Originally Posted by TwilightBlade (Post 5430792)
Download an instant messenger, such as AIM, MSN, or Yahoo and talk to each other when you two are online? Do you know each others' timezones?

I have all three of those ._. I'll see if they have any, thanks for the tip.
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Lol, no idea about this... I'd have to look, but the last option would be something like, "Would you like to save the last battle in your Video Recorder?".
To youtube then! or Platinum, I'll get it done somehow.
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There is the PokeWalker for HGSS, but not PokeRadar. RNG abuse can be used in either regardless. I believe RNG is in many games, but in Pokemon, we are just aware of it and can manipulate the delay and frame to reach that shiny or flawless Pokemon hiding. However, if you attach a power item, the parent's IV will pass down. For example, Power Bracer EVs in Attack, so attaching it to the father would pass down his Attack IV.
How'd I screw that up? Yeah, my mistake, I meant the watch gear thing you get in Gen IV...whatever it's called. The one that has the coin flip app and happiness checker used for Dppt RNG.

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Uh, I have soft reset for 4 days for one shiny legendary... Then 11 months for another...It's not that hard, although their stats were bad. People are most likely RNGing, but you have to ask the original owner. If he/she seems knowledgeable and credible, it's best to give him/her the benefit of the doubt. ANYTHING can be RNGd, even wondercard Pokemon and Bebe's Eevee and stuff like that. If it's a monster, it can be RNG'd, although some wondercard events and stuff have an anti-shiny check.
That sounds around right, soft-reseting for a Shiny is much more probable than Stats, since for stats and IV's you'd have to catch it, check it, unlike Shinies which just...if they're shiny you'll know immediately. But even if you look at those numbers and if they did just soft reset for stats...make it a little more lenient to something more probable: 3/32 x 3/32 (2 near/are perfect Ivs) x 1/2 (apparently synchronize IS 50% after all, so I wasn't off yay) = 9/2048 or 0.44%. I could actually see that happening BUT, since you can't tell right away it's much longer than a normal soft reset for a shiny so it'd go half as fast due to checking (it's not like the IV checkers are perfect either, but I compared them with pokesav when I inputted everything exactly and they're still fairly accurate). Also, 11 months, that's dedication o_o. Again I'll have to look further into what RNG methods are being used.

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RNG has been cracked by a select few on Smogon. One would advance the RNG by the radio.
This is definitely the first I'm hearing about this, but is also the information I've been looking for to answer "HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE DOING IT?!" I'll take a look at this.

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You may be good at math, but you need to start using your eyes and look for the articles. :)
Awe, I did search pretty far for the information (including first hand pokesav experience with Platinum, I know there's one for Hg/ss but I'm not going to ruin that game)...although yes, it's rather clear I didn't search enough (specifically on HG/SS RNG). As for the math, naw, I just know how to use a calculator xD (actually an online one, the numbers were too big for my GRAPHING calculator..geez).
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You're right, several things I thought were hacked appeared to pass. The only thing that has failed legal.exe, in my experience, was a Tyranitar in a Cherish ball caught at level 100 in a city. Anyone could spot something so obvious, though. Legal.exe does not really check to see if a "forced shiny" code was used. It just checks simple values and information. :(
Well, sadly none of them are perfect. It's fairly easy to create something like a normal OU pokemon with only 2 perfect or near perfect IVs with the proper moveset and exact EVs that'll pass (I think there was something with putting it down as hatched that bypassed the checker but...I don't think I should discuss that further here) especially if you put it in a normal pokeball like a great/ultra/or dusk ball. At least the checker IS getting progressively better (I think). Although the only people I see that are caught are obviously the fools that say they have legit pokemon with illegal movesets

skaterdude6115 December 29th, 2009 10:15 PM

Is a pokemon obtained through RNG abuse considered a hacked pokemon?

Detox December 29th, 2009 11:02 PM

No, it's perfectly legit....

thegeneticway December 31st, 2009 7:15 PM

Happy New Years/New Year's Eve to everybody ~

Make any good trades lately?

I hope you did :3

ArmageddonAsh January 5th, 2010 10:41 AM

is there a way to trade Charmander from Fire Red to to someone with Pearl using WIFI?

Griffinbane January 5th, 2010 10:51 AM

Not directly, no. The only way you can do it is if you pal park it to Diamond/Pearl/Platinum then trade it to the person with Pearl.

ArmageddonAsh January 5th, 2010 10:54 AM

silly question but whats Pal Park?

Chains January 5th, 2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmageddonAsh (Post 5452413)
silly question but whats Pal Park?

Its where you can Trade over Pokemon from Your GBA Pokemon Games such as Fire Red or Emerald and they get migrated to the Pal Parl and you can catch them there and then they will be on your DS Pokemon Game :)

ArmageddonAsh January 5th, 2010 11:29 AM

okay thanks. how do you get access to the Pal Park
do you have access to it from the start or late into the game?

Chains January 5th, 2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmageddonAsh (Post 5452469)
okay thanks. how do you get access to the Pal Park
do you have access to it from the start or late into the game?

No you have to beat the Game and then go to Route 221 where it is Located, and obviously you have to have a GBA Pokemon Game with Pokemon on it to Migrate :)

OmegaLego January 13th, 2010 6:34 AM

I'm kind of a newbie so I didn't really know where to post this, but here goes...

Would anyone be looking for a "Trade Partner" when HeartGold and SoulSilver come out?

I'm getting Soulsilver, and I'd love to:

Help someone obtain version specific pokemon on a consistent basis,
--For example, if you had Heartgold but wanted a Vulpix with an adamant nature, I'd due my best to get it to you as soon as soon as possible. And on your part, trying to get me a Scyther. (since i'll have Soulsilver)

Offer evolutionary trades (tradebacks) for others and vice-versa
--Scizor and Machamp!!

and finally, just to meet a new friend!


Thanks and let me know :cool:

tommyhtc January 13th, 2010 6:50 AM

Ok then I'll get a heart gold.. it's always nice to have someone like that..
add me as friend.

OmegaLego January 13th, 2010 7:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tommyhtc (Post 5471218)
Ok then I'll get a heart gold.. it's always nice to have someone like that..
add me as friend.

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Originally Posted by OmegaLego (Post 5471199)
I'm kind of a newbie so I didn't really know where to post this, but here goes...

Would anyone be looking for a "Trade Partner" when HeartGold and SoulSilver come out?

I'm getting Soulsilver, and I'd love to:

Help someone obtain version specific pokemon on a consistent basis,
--For example, if you had Heartgold but wanted a Vulpix with an adamant nature, I'd due my best to get it to you as soon as soon as possible. And on your part, trying to get me a Scyther. (since i'll have Soulsilver)

Offer evolutionary trades (tradebacks) for others and vice-versa
--Scizor and Machamp!!

and finally, just to meet a new friend!


Thanks and let me know :cool:

Nice! Anybody else just let me know

pokedict January 13th, 2010 11:21 AM

kinda offtopic, but I saw no descrs of this
what does ev pokemon, iv pokemon or untouched pokemon actually mean =/

ArmageddonAsh January 13th, 2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pokedict (Post 5471512)
kinda offtopic, but I saw no descrs of this
what does ev pokemon, iv pokemon or untouched pokemon actually mean =/

Untouched means that the pokemon still has all original moves
IV is the stats i think
EV is a specific kind of training to make them stronger then normal trainning

Anyone if any of this is wrong please correct
this is just from the limited knowledge that i have read about on here

pokedict January 13th, 2010 11:32 AM

what is that "specific way of training =/" and iv means which stats? like kinda a pure statted?

ArmageddonAsh January 13th, 2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pokedict (Post 5471526)
what is that "specific way of training =/" and iv means which stats? like kinda a pure statted?

by that i mean training the pokemon to increase specific stats like health, defense or Special Attack

dont know alot about IV but its got something to do with determing the pokemons stats or something

check here for more info on IV : http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/IV

Troggy January 15th, 2010 5:06 PM

It has come to my attention that a lot of things being passed around here are hacked. Each thread says the Pokes are 'legit', but obviously the thread owners haven't tried checking. Here are a few I released tonight after finding that their IV / nature combinations had no legal PIDs (AKA they are hacked):

Shiny Rash Heatran Female 28/09/20/17/28/23
Shiny Modest Latias 24/05/20/30/25/27
Shiny Naive Deoxys 28/12/08/13/05/20

Those and many others like them are being cloned and offered at several places on PokeCommunity. I have seen many other shines and shiny legends offered that are suspect or hacked. I won't bother to recall every one, but please for everyone's sake be wary of these kinds of Pokes on here since the majority of users don't know well enough to determine their legitimacy. A lot of people simply take the word of others, which is often a mistake.

I say this as a service announcement, because nearly every legend/shiny/shiny legend I have gotten in a trade on PokeCommunity has turned out to be a hack. Chances are all of you have hacks without realizing it.

I would like to see those of us that claim to 'hate' hacks actually take a little more time to check what they are trading and receiving. A little diligence could go a long way.

Thanks.

On a happier note, the shiny Calm Mewtwo (18/11/27/06/09/02) I got from PC appears to be legit.

Neko-sama January 15th, 2010 5:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Troggy (Post 5476074)
It has come to my attention that a lot of things being passed around here are hacked. Each thread says the Pokes are 'legit', but obviously the thread owners haven't tried checking. Here are a few I released tonight after finding that their IV / nature combinations had no legal PIDs (AKA they are hacked):

Shiny Rash Heatran Female 28/09/20/17/28/23
Shiny Modest Latias 24/05/20/30/25/27
Shiny Naive Deoxys 28/12/08/13/05/20

Those and many others like them are being cloned and offered at several places on PokeCommunity. I have seen many other shines and shiny legends offered that are suspect or hacked. I won't bother to recall every one, but please for everyone's sake be wary of these kinds of Pokes on here since the majority of users don't know well enough to determine their legitimacy. A lot of people simply take the word of others, which is often a mistake.

I say this as a service announcement, because nearly every legend/shiny/shiny legend I have gotten in a trade on PokeCommunity has turned out to be a hack. Chances are all of you have hacks without realizing it.

I would like to see those of us that claim to 'hate' hacks actually take a little more time to check what they are trading and receiving. A little diligence could go a long way.

Thanks.

On a happier note, the shiny Calm Mewtwo (18/11/27/06/09/02) I got from PC appears to be legit.

Hiya Troggy, for a n00b to wi-fi trading like myself. Could you tell me the tells of a hack pokemon?

TwilightBlade January 15th, 2010 5:35 PM

Well, Neko, Troggy is using this website and inputting the IVs/natures of various Pokemon to see if they have a valid IV combination. This only applies to legendary or wild caught Pokemon - hatched Pokemon could have any combination of IVs.

I have some hack check cleaning to do myself... But I like to breed my own stuff anyways. >_>

Troggy January 15th, 2010 5:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Neko-sama (Post 5476096)
Hiya Troggy, for a n00b to wi-fi trading like myself. Could you tell me the tells of a hack pokemon?

That's a pretty big question, actually. It really depends on what the Pokemon is. Sometimes it's very obvious. Some hacks are obtained on routes where they are not found, hatched in places that don't exist, have stats that are impossible, or things like that. Those kinds of things are typical of kids who have Action Replay / Pokesav but don't really understand it or don't care if their hacks are easily detectable. I have seen kids say 'everything is legit except for the Route it was caught at', because they don't know how to do it properly.

There are many ways to hack a Pokemon where it is less detectable, though. Sometimes the only indication is an impossible combination of IVs and nature. It is especially difficult to identify hacked hatched Pokemon, provided there are no obvious warning signs.

As far as event Pokemon go, you can check closely to make sure they have the proper OT/ID number, moves, IVs, ball caught in, and ribbons. If anything seems amiss, it is likely a hack. You can look up lists on websites like Serebii or Bulbapedia that will list all the characteristics that event Pokemon has if it is legit.

If you are having trouble figuring one out, most boards have hack check threads where you can at least get a second opinion. It would take a lot to go through all the particulars but I hope this was helpful.

Neko-sama January 15th, 2010 6:01 PM

Thanks for the replies guys. I learnt a few new things while being re-assured on a few things i wasnt sure about =)

Detox January 15th, 2010 6:37 PM

So for TEH LULZ, I bred this

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d0/Spr_2c_048.gif
Venonat
Modest
IV's: 30 | 30 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
~Baton Pass
~Agility
~Screech
~Tackle

I had a random gliscor lying around with those moves, rofl.

Panfisha January 17th, 2010 8:08 PM

A good day for trading. Johnny gave me a dusk stone AND was nice enough to trade and trade back my electabuzz and magmar to evolve them. Now my trainer card is accurate.
But I have a problem. When I use the GTS and search a pokemon, I only get 3 trainers. But if I change the country, I get 3 different trainers. Is this because I only have a certain number of badges or something?

thegeneticway January 17th, 2010 8:13 PM

Sorry, Pan, don't know.




So anyway, I'm breeding something for my friend with good IV's and it's frustrating. I mean seriously

>.>

I just now found out the everstone trick doesn't work for some reasons.

I feel like giving up. :K

johnny18 January 17th, 2010 9:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panfisha (Post 5481796)
A good day for trading. Johnny gave me a dusk stone AND was nice enough to trade and trade back my electabuzz and magmar to evolve them. Now my trainer card is accurate.
But I have a problem. When I use the GTS and search a pokemon, I only get 3 trainers. But if I change the country, I get 3 different trainers. Is this because I only have a certain number of badges or something?

For the GTS, you have to do one offer and one trade. If it is success, then you will see all the seven spots will be filled with trainers ^_^

Panfisha January 17th, 2010 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny18 (Post 5481974)
For the GTS, you have to do one offer and one trade. If it is success, then you will see all the seven spots will be filled with trainers ^_^

I just learned that as I read this. I traded one of my 6 remaining cranidos for a shieldon, and afterwards I got 5 trainers. And I left a cranidos up for a barboach. Its ridiculous the pokemon these people want for something as common as a shieldon, like one I saw wanted a dialga.

johnny18 January 17th, 2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panfisha (Post 5482016)
I just learned that as I read this. I traded one of my 6 remaining cranidos for a shieldon, and afterwards I got 5 trainers. And I left a cranidos up for a barboach. Its ridiculous the pokemon these people want for something as common as a shieldon, like one I saw wanted a dialga.

Yeah, I know....Sometimes I make me mad 'cause there is a lot of pokes I like but they ask for something too high that I could not effort ^_^

Panfisha January 19th, 2010 10:27 AM

And now, when I try to trade for a porygon wanting a kadabra on the GTS, it won't allow me to select kadabra for trade. The offerer isn't requesting a specific level or gender, so why isn't it allowing me?

Diabolico January 22nd, 2010 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kudo (Post 5430957)
I appreciate this response immensely, finally some answers. This issue has been bothering me since I came to this forum.


I have all three of those ._. I'll see if they have any, thanks for the tip.

To youtube then! or Platinum, I'll get it done somehow.
How'd I screw that up? Yeah, my mistake, I meant the watch gear thing you get in Gen IV...whatever it's called. The one that has the coin flip app and happiness checker used for Dppt RNG.

That sounds around right, soft-reseting for a Shiny is much more probable than Stats, since for stats and IV's you'd have to catch it, check it, unlike Shinies which just...if they're shiny you'll know immediately. But even if you look at those numbers and if they did just soft reset for stats...make it a little more lenient to something more probable: 3/32 x 3/32 (2 near/are perfect Ivs) x 1/2 (apparently synchronize IS 50% after all, so I wasn't off yay) = 9/2048 or 0.44%. I could actually see that happening BUT, since you can't tell right away it's much longer than a normal soft reset for a shiny so it'd go half as fast due to checking (it's not like the IV checkers are perfect either, but I compared them with pokesav when I inputted everything exactly and they're still fairly accurate). Also, 11 months, that's dedication o_o. Again I'll have to look further into what RNG methods are being used.

This is definitely the first I'm hearing about this, but is also the information I've been looking for to answer "HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE DOING IT?!" I'll take a look at this.

Awe, I did search pretty far for the information (including first hand pokesav experience with Platinum, I know there's one for Hg/ss but I'm not going to ruin that game)...although yes, it's rather clear I didn't search enough (specifically on HG/SS RNG). As for the math, naw, I just know how to use a calculator xD (actually an online one, the numbers were too big for my GRAPHING calculator..geez).
Well, sadly none of them are perfect. It's fairly easy to create something like a normal OU pokemon with only 2 perfect or near perfect IVs with the proper moveset and exact EVs that'll pass (I think there was something with putting it down as hatched that bypassed the checker but...I don't think I should discuss that further here) especially if you put it in a normal pokeball like a great/ultra/or dusk ball. At least the checker IS getting progressively better (I think). Although the only people I see that are caught are obviously the fools that say they have legit pokemon with illegal movesets

Ok....... If what Kudo says is true, then how do we capture pokemon with Good iv's on HG and SS?

TwilightBlade January 22nd, 2010 12:56 PM

Read my post right after Kudo's?

Quote:

RNG has been cracked by a select few on Smogon. One would advance the RNG by the radio.
It has been done, but it is currently being researched so a guide should be published around March or so. :(

Diabolico January 23rd, 2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwilightBlade (Post 5492119)
Read my post right after Kudo's?



It has been done, but it is currently being researched so a guide should be published around March or so. :(

OK...... so...... one would advance the RNG by the radio. And you're saying that you have to be good at math, but you need to start using your eyes and look for the articles. What does that mean? Are you talking about that Radio that you listen to on that Pokegear thing on HG and SS game?

Chains January 23rd, 2010 6:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diabolico (Post 5494212)
OK...... so...... one would advance the RNG by the radio. And you're saying that you have to be good at math, but you need to start using your eyes and look for the articles. What does that mean? Are you talking about that Radio that you listen to on that Pokegear thing on HG and SS game?

To Advance the RNG in HG/SS theres a few ways that have been figured out so far, one is to listen to the Radio (Yes the PokeGear one and only certain channels of it Advance the RNG) The other way is taking steps turning and walking in the Grass advances the RNG and in "quiet" areas of the game or places with no Wild Pokemon you have to take 128 Steps to advance it equal to the number of pokemon in your party, and talking to your pokemon I believe has been found to advance the RNG by how much I dont know...
And you really dont have to be good at math for RNG Abuse... Its basic math really...

As for me, Woot PokeRadar Abuse!!!
Togekiss
Calm
31/X/31/31/31/31
Ability: Serene Grace
Caught: In a Great Ball at Route 230
Uhhh PokeRadar Abuse is hard.....

Detox January 24th, 2010 2:29 PM

I really hope you meant you caught a Togepi


IMO thats easy rofl

Chains January 24th, 2010 2:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 5497365)
I really hope you meant you caught a Togepi


IMO thats easy rofl

Lol yea I caught it, unfortuneatly though Togepi's a PokeRadar Pokemon only or else it would've been an easy regular catch XD

Diabolico January 25th, 2010 1:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chains (Post 5495494)
To Advance the RNG in HG/SS theres a few ways that have been figured out so far, one is to listen to the Radio (Yes the PokeGear one and only certain channels of it Advance the RNG) The other way is taking steps turning and walking in the Grass advances the RNG and in "quiet" areas of the game or places with no Wild Pokemon you have to take 128 Steps to advance it equal to the number of pokemon in your party, and talking to your pokemon I believe has been found to advance the RNG by how much I dont know...
And you really dont have to be good at math for RNG Abuse... Its basic math really...

As for me, Woot PokeRadar Abuse!!!
Togekiss
Calm
31/X/31/31/31/31
Ability: Serene Grace
Caught: In a Great Ball at Route 230
Uhhh PokeRadar Abuse is hard.....

(laughing) And just who gave you the right to answer my question, Kiddo? I was talking to twilightlblade, not you.

Detox January 25th, 2010 2:13 PM

Yay for!

Nidoran(Male)
Adamant
Poison Point
31 | 31 | 31 | x | 31 | 31


RNG'd a beast, who wants it.

ALSO I caught it in a poke ball. I wanted to catch it in a perimer ball but I didnt have any :(

Chains January 25th, 2010 5:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diabolico (Post 5499456)
(laughing) And just who gave you the right to answer my question, Kiddo? I was talking to twilightlblade, not you.

last time I checked I can post here if I want, dont got to be alittle faggot when someones answering your question...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 5499502)
Yay for!

Nidoran(Male)
Adamant
Poison Point
31 | 31 | 31 | x | 31 | 31


RNG'd a beast, who wants it.

ALSO I caught it in a poke ball. I wanted to catch it in a perimer ball but I didnt have any :(

Awesome!!! So you PokeRadar'ed that? Nice catch none the less :)
EDIT: I love my Shiny Spread!!!
Bronzong (Shiny)
31/31/31/0/31/30
Ability: Levitate
Caught: Level 14 at Mt. Coronet

And I caught this....
Scyther
31/30/31/21/31/31
Ability: Technicain
Caught: Level 19 at Route 210 South
For my UU Team :)

Diabolico January 26th, 2010 1:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chains (Post 5499966)
last time I checked I can post here if I want, dont got to be alittle faggot when someones answering your question...



Awesome!!! So you PokeRadar'ed that? Nice catch none the less :)
EDIT: I love my Shiny Spread!!!
Bronzong (Shiny)
31/31/31/0/31/30
Ability: Levitate
Caught: Level 14 at Mt. Coronet

And I caught this....
Scyther
31/30/31/21/31/31
Ability: Technicain
Caught: Level 19 at Route 210 South
For my UU Team :)

(Laughing) Whatever you say, Kiddo. (Sarcasticly)

Detox January 27th, 2010 6:24 PM

Wow this chats sucks.

Anyways, LOOK LOOK LOOK

IMMA HAVE A LUXIO GIVEAWAY, WHO WANTS SOME

MarineCorpsKid January 27th, 2010 6:31 PM

Can anyone help me with my pokedex?...i just need Five MORE!!!..please?! If so, PM me, the pokemon i need are numbered here: 46, 59, 65, 115, and 135....

DragoniteAirMail January 28th, 2010 3:56 PM

hey does anyone wanna help me out? i need to see if two pokes i got were hacked. i don't think they are but im new to wifi trades so just to make sure it would be helpful to have an experienced trader help me out so i know if i could trade these pokes in the future. PM me if you could spend a few minutes to help me out! thanks!

VCaliber January 28th, 2010 4:25 PM

Ask TwilightBlade or RNC to check your pokemon. If they were caught in the wild, you could also use this- http://users.smogon.com/X-Act/IVtoPID.html

Kudo January 28th, 2010 6:04 PM

Wow, haven't been here in a while.

Yeah, research on the RNG for HG/SS is far from done from the looks of it. How the selected few pulled it off I have no clue. Looks like those perfect Ho-oh and Lugia will have to wait a while longer. On the other hand, I DO have one thing to say as far as leniency. I only went on a shoddy server once and there was some guy using RNG, perfectly fine yes? They were using an AR to hatch (1=255 steps) and check the IVs. This is getting picky, but in my book that still qualifies as cheating -_-'' It's a strict check when it comes to the pokemon's "legitimacy" but it seems using an AR to get all the TMs x 95 and Master Balls to bypass actually having to go through the challenge of normally catching a legendary.

As I'll repeat in his tone (this person on shoddy who went by the name of Blade), replacing pokesav with AR and Shiny Charizard with unreal stats with 255 Master Balls (this number should be familiar to all glitchers)

"Yeah, [AR] is great right?"
"[255 Master Balls] still great?"
"UGH NO"
"NEWB"

(And yes, there are AR codes to change the IVs of wild pokemon)

I also love how this place has died down since I made that post complaining about cheating earlier...

Quote:

Can anyone help me with my pokedex?...i just need Five MORE!!!..please?! If so, PM me, the pokemon i need are numbered here: 46, 59, 65, 115, and 135....
On a side note, to help clarify this guy, those pokemon are:
Paris (if you still need it, VM me since I'm playing SoulSilver and caught one a while back...wait, can't you just breed a Parasect?)
Arcanine (wait, if you have a growlithe, then just find a fire stone)
Alakazam (actually i can see this, hopefully someone could use a dex trade with a Kadabra)
Kangaskhan (err...don't know how to help you there)
Jolteon (good luck with that, although there should be plenty since it's OU. Breed whatever you have with Eevee, Thunderstone can't be too hard to find can it?)

Last but not least to him, wrong thread. :p

MarineCorpsKid January 28th, 2010 6:14 PM

Thank you, but I have Diamond. Those are not the pokes. : ) and sorry bout the wrong thread. I just thought i would try here.

Kudo January 28th, 2010 9:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarineCorpsKid (Post 5506491)
Thank you, but I have Diamond. Those are not the pokes. : ) and sorry bout the wrong thread. I just thought i would try here.

Ah, so the SINNOH Dex, my mistake.

Wormadam (Evolve Burmy, Level 20)
Cherrim (Evolve Cherubi, Level 25)
Drifloon (Valley Windworks, Fridays)
Riolu (Baby Lucario...wait, you get an Egg of Riolu from Riley)
Lumineon (Evolve Finneon, Level 31)

Chains January 29th, 2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kudo (Post 5506461)
Wow, haven't been here in a while.
Yeah, research on the RNG for HG/SS is far from done from the looks of it. How the selected few pulled it off I have no clue.

I would say that the RNG in HG/SS isnt 100% crakced yet (lol mingot didnt get a chnce to get his hands on it) but its fairly identical to the RNG in DPPt. Unfortuneatly there is no Journal in HG/SS :( Which really sucks lol hopefully they do find out a reliable way to Advance the RNG...
Anyways has anyone seen this? Its an announcement from the creator of Pokemon announcing a new Generation :D Generation 5
Id link to the Thread but dont have enough Posts :(
EDIT: Heres a piece of info about it
An entirely new "Pocket Monsters" series is under development for release in 2010.
The Pokemon Company (headed by Tsunekazu Ishihara) has announced that the newest work in the Pocket Monsters RPG series (Game Freak, Nintendo) is being developed for the Nintendo DS for release by the end of 2010.
Since its first entry, "Pocket Monsters Red and Green" from 1996, the "Pocket Monsters" series has received high acclaim from customers around the world for its distinctive universe and gameplay that involves communicating between different versions to trade and battle. Sales for the entire series have climbed to over 130,000,000 copies worldwide.
The "Pocket Monsters" series for the Nintendo DS made use of the dual screen, touch screen, and Wi-Fi connection for play. The latest project under development is a completely new work, coming four years after "Pocket Monsters Diamond and Pearl" which boasts worldwide sales of over 17,150,000 copies (over 5,800,000 in Japan). It should make an innovative, fresh start by adding even more new game play and new Pokemon.
Please anticipate a later article with news about the game's content.
PS: If you think this is a hoax or Spin-off it isnt ;)

skaterdude6115 January 29th, 2010 2:34 PM

nintendo is makin a new pokemon game. fifth gen is gonna be released at the end of this year. This is awsome.

Kudo January 29th, 2010 9:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chains (Post 5507779)
I would say that the RNG in HG/SS isnt 100% crakced yet (lol mingot didnt get a chnce to get his hands on it) but its fairly identical to the RNG in DPPt. Unfortuneatly there is no Journal in HG/SS :( Which really sucks lol hopefully they do find out a reliable way to Advance the RNG...
Anyways has anyone seen this? Its an announcement from the creator of Pokemon announcing a new Generation :D Generation 5
Id link to the Thread but dont have enough Posts :(
EDIT: Heres a piece of info about it
An entirely new "Pocket Monsters" series is under development for release in 2010.
The Pokemon Company (headed by Tsunekazu Ishihara) has announced that the newest work in the Pocket Monsters RPG series (Game Freak, Nintendo) is being developed for the Nintendo DS for release by the end of 2010.
Since its first entry, "Pocket Monsters Red and Green" from 1996, the "Pocket Monsters" series has received high acclaim from customers around the world for its distinctive universe and gameplay that involves communicating between different versions to trade and battle. Sales for the entire series have climbed to over 130,000,000 copies worldwide.
The "Pocket Monsters" series for the Nintendo DS made use of the dual screen, touch screen, and Wi-Fi connection for play. The latest project under development is a completely new work, coming four years after "Pocket Monsters Diamond and Pearl" which boasts worldwide sales of over 17,150,000 copies (over 5,800,000 in Japan). It should make an innovative, fresh start by adding even more new game play and new Pokemon.
Please anticipate a later article with news about the game's content.
PS: If you think this is a hoax or Spin-off it isnt ;)

Well, it still does they certainly are working on the RNG so far. At worst, people know to RNG in Platinum and breed in HG/SS...and all the legendaries save Lugia and Ho-oh can be easily RNG'd in past Gen IV or Gen III games.

I know I've seen this piece of info on Gen V somewhere before...it's real but it seems a bit too early. HG/SS hasn't even been out for a year yet (well, I guess it will be by then...but still).

Completely new series makes me want to think "spin-off" too, but that seems even less likely for some reason...guess we can only wait and see.

Chains January 29th, 2010 9:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kudo (Post 5509230)
Well, it still does they certainly are working on the RNG so far. At worst, people know to RNG in Platinum and breed in HG/SS...and all the legendaries save Lugia and Ho-oh can be easily RNG'd in past Gen IV or Gen III games.

I know I've seen this piece of info on Gen V somewhere before...it's real but it seems a bit too early. HG/SS hasn't even been out for a year yet (well, I guess it will be by then...but still).

Completely new series makes me want to think "spin-off" too, but that seems even less likely for some reason...guess we can only wait and see.

There has been an anncouncement from the creator of Pokemon
Here's the whole page id link but again dont have enough posts...
Spoiler:

The Pokémon Company announced today that a brand-new Pokémon RPG is set to be released later this year for the Nintendo DS. The original press release, along with Junichi Masuda's Blog entry on the announcement, have now both been translated by Bulbagarden webmaster Archaic. Given the mention of new Pokémon being included, and the statements that these games will be an "inventive rebirth" of the series and that the staff are "doing their best to exceed every Pokémon game before now", it would now appear that this is indeed an announcement for a fifth generation of main series games as was first speculated. This would be an interesting turn for the series to take, as two generations have never shared the [COLOR=#009600! important][COLOR=#009600! important]primary[/COLOR][/COLOR] console; while Generation II could be played on a regular Game Boy, it was designed with the Game Boy Color in mind.
The February 2010 edition of CoroCoro, due out in only a few weeks, is set to reveal a "surprising announcement", which will be related to this game, as well as the upcoming Pokémon [COLOR=#009600! important][COLOR=#009600! important]movie[/COLOR][/COLOR], Phantom Ruler Z. In addition, we now know that the episode of Pokémon Sunday to be broadcast on February 7th will include an appearance from Junichi Masada himself, though no specific details have been released about what may be released here as of yet. With no Generation V Pokémon yet revealed, this would make for the shortest amount of time between the revelation of a brand-new Pokémon and its debut in the main series should these games be Generation V.
Press Release Translation

Pocket Monsters series all new production under development for release by the end of 2010 2010, January 29th
The latest news from Pokémon Company Managing Director Ishihara Tsunekazum the developers of the Pokémon series Game Freak, and Distributors Nintendo, is that the new work in the series is under development for release on the Nintendo DS by the end of 2010.
Since the first games in the series, Pokémon Red and Green in 1996, the distinctive characteristics of the games around the world has changed, with trading and battling between different versions. Customers around the world have rated the games highly, and around the world over 130,000,000 Pokémon games have been sold.
Pokémon games for Nintendo DS have made use of the two screens, touch screen and Wi-Fi features in their play. The new games, the first completely new work to be released since the release of Pokémon Diamond and Pearl 4 years ago, games which have sold 17,150,000 copies (5,800,000 games in Japan), are planned as an inventive rebirth, featuring completely new ways to play and new Pokémon.
Please look forward to game details and news from now until release.
Game Outline:
Title: Pending
Sales Agency: Pokémon Company
Distribution: Nintendo
Development: Game Freak
Date of Release: Planned before the end of 2010
Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price: Pending
Genre: RPG
System: Nintendo DS
-- The Pokémon Company
Junichi Masuda Blog entry

Number 159 Category: Announcement, Pokemon
Pocket Monsters series complete new work! Under development for release by the end of 2010!!
Finally Japan, it has been announced without problems!!
Clap Clap Clap !!!
Though, that's not someone elses problem...(*sweats*)
Of course, development is all being done in-house.
Now, Game Freak's development department are eagerly working on development with the aim to exceed every Pokemon game made before now with innovative software!
By the way, for the purpose of giving more information...
Pokemon Diamond and Pearl have indeed really sold 17,150,000 copies around the world (5,800,000 copies domestically in Japan).
(Tokyo's population is approximately 13,000,000)
With great enthusasium, we are trying our best to surpass Diamond and Pearl! Everyone, please lend us your support!
Please have great expectations!
On the 7th of February (Sunday), on Pokemon Sunday, Masuda will appear in an emergency video?
Now that you know, please watch it. You should be able to get some news!
Ciao!


And it has been confirmed its not a Spin-ff because Nintendo and Gamefreak wouldnt be in on it, other companies make the Spin Offs...
Also If you think about it DP were released 4 Years ago.... thats plenty long enough to make a new generation irc the longest period between releases in the whole generations
Also irc I have heard this "new generation" will have nothing to do with DPPt, meaning not connecting with them at all.... Kinda changes alot of things to the Metagame...
Anyways hopefully some of you are as excited as I am to see updates on this "5th Generation" ^_^

Kudo January 29th, 2010 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chains (Post 5509283)
There has been an anncouncement from the creator of Pokemon
Here's the whole page id link but again dont have enough posts...

Spoiler:
The Pokémon Company announced today that a brand-new Pokémon RPG is set to be released later this year for the Nintendo DS. The original press release, along with Junichi Masuda's Blog entry on the announcement, have now both been translated by Bulbagarden webmaster Archaic. Given the mention of new Pokémon being included, and the statements that these games will be an "inventive rebirth" of the series and that the staff are "doing their best to exceed every Pokémon game before now", it would now appear that this is indeed an announcement for a fifth generation of main series games as was first speculated. This would be an interesting turn for the series to take, as two generations have never shared the [COLOR=#009600! important][COLOR=#009600! important]primary[/COLOR][/COLOR] console; while Generation II could be played on a regular Game Boy, it was designed with the Game Boy Color in mind.
Spoiler:

The February 2010 edition of CoroCoro, due out in only a few weeks, is set to reveal a "surprising announcement", which will be related to this game, as well as the upcoming Pokémon [COLOR=#009600! important][COLOR=#009600! important]movie[/COLOR][/COLOR], Phantom Ruler Z. In addition, we now know that the episode of Pokémon Sunday to be broadcast on February 7th will include an appearance from Junichi Masada himself, though no specific details have been released about what may be released here as of yet. With no Generation V Pokémon yet revealed, this would make for the shortest amount of time between the revelation of a brand-new Pokémon and its debut in the main series should these games be Generation V.
Press Release Translation

Pocket Monsters series all new production under development for release by the end of 2010 2010, January 29th
The latest news from Pokémon Company Managing Director Ishihara Tsunekazum the developers of the Pokémon series Game Freak, and Distributors Nintendo, is that the new work in the series is under development for release on the Nintendo DS by the end of 2010.
Since the first games in the series, Pokémon Red and Green in 1996, the distinctive characteristics of the games around the world has changed, with trading and battling between different versions. Customers around the world have rated the games highly, and around the world over 130,000,000 Pokémon games have been sold.
Pokémon games for Nintendo DS have made use of the two screens, touch screen and Wi-Fi features in their play. The new games, the first completely new work to be released since the release of Pokémon Diamond and Pearl 4 years ago, games which have sold 17,150,000 copies (5,800,000 games in Japan), are planned as an inventive rebirth, featuring completely new ways to play and new Pokémon.
Please look forward to game details and news from now until release.
Game Outline:
Title: Pending
Sales Agency: Pokémon Company
Distribution: Nintendo
Development: Game Freak
Date of Release: Planned before the end of 2010
Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price: Pending
Genre: RPG
System: Nintendo DS
-- The Pokémon Company
Junichi Masuda Blog entry

Number 159 Category: Announcement, Pokemon
Pocket Monsters series complete new work! Under development for release by the end of 2010!!
Finally Japan, it has been announced without problems!!
Clap Clap Clap !!!
Though, that's not someone elses problem...(*sweats*)
Of course, development is all being done in-house.
Now, Game Freak's development department are eagerly working on development with the aim to exceed every Pokemon game made before now with innovative software!
By the way, for the purpose of giving more information...
Pokemon Diamond and Pearl have indeed really sold 17,150,000 copies around the world (5,800,000 copies domestically in Japan).
(Tokyo's population is approximately 13,000,000)
With great enthusasium, we are trying our best to surpass Diamond and Pearl! Everyone, please lend us your support!
Please have great expectations!
On the 7th of February (Sunday), on Pokemon Sunday, Masuda will appear in an emergency video?
Now that you know, please watch it. You should be able to get some news!
Ciao!

I know the fonts small but its alot to read... And for some reason this forum (that I know of) doesnt have HIDE tags... Also note I took out all the links so I could post this....

And it has been confirmed its not a Spin-ff because Nintendo and Gamefreak wouldnt be in on it, other companies mke the Spin Offs...
Also IRC I have heard this new generation will have nothing to do with DPPt, meaning not connecting with them at all.... Kinda changes alot of things to the Metagame...
Anyways hopefully some of you are as excited as I am to see updates on this "5th Generation ^_^

HIDE tags, perhaps spoiler tags will do? Still, this is good info.

(Pfft, surpass Diamond and Pearl. They're really setting their standard too low).
Spoiler:
I kid, that's a biased opinion since I stick too close to Gen I&II. Although really? Electrive? Magmortar? Porygon-Z? What the heck?

Chains January 29th, 2010 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kudo (Post 5509311)
HIDE tags, perhaps spoiler tags will do? Still, this is good info.

(Pfft, surpass Diamond and Pearl. They're really setting their standard too low).
Spoiler:
I kid, that's a biased opinion since I stick too close to Gen I&II. Although really? Electrive? Magmortar? Porygon-Z? What the heck?

O_o Thanks lol on Smogon its HIDE not Spoiler lol XD
Anyways they better hope they surpass DPPt, because if they are saying is true excluding DPPt from it completely then there going to need about 250 Pokemon for a Metagame and it will be small at that...
I mean maybe they'll bring a Time Machine like in GSC and only be able to trade things that existed in those games but still adding new moves and pokemon would split the Metagame of DPPt/HG/SS over this new Generation because not being able to battle with these new pokemon with older games....
1 Region for a Metagame imo is too small im taking into account only fully evolved Pokemon... Unless when they sat "exceed" DPPt they make it possible to catch all the Pokemon in it from the previous Generations...
And yea I agree pokemon over the years pokemon have gotten weirder and weirder....
Good thing its on the DS though!

KumaKi February 6th, 2010 7:44 PM

is it posable to catch a shiny Shaymin with our the use of an AR???

TwilightBlade February 7th, 2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KumaKi (Post 5530066)
is it posable to catch a shiny Shaymin with our the use of an AR???

Yep, that is possible, although very rare. Someone has to download the Oak's Letter (dates listed here), travel to Flower Paradise, save in front of Shaymin, and soft reset until Shaymin appears shiny.

Alternative February 9th, 2010 3:06 AM

I wanna ask something here.

Am I the only one against cloning Pokemon for trading?
I just think it's unfair for people who have access to AR and can hack to clone, whereas people who can't clone at all, get screwed over.

I just can't stand that whenever I trade Pokemon with someone, that they've cloned their Pokemon without telling, and they end up gaining something without me getting as much.

There, that ends my little rant.

The Kidd February 9th, 2010 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayley Williams (Post 5536243)
I wanna ask something here.

Am I the only one against cloning Pokemon for trading?
I just think it's unfair for people who have access to AR and can hack to clone, whereas people who can't clone at all, get screwed over.

I just can't stand that whenever I trade Pokemon with someone, that they've cloned their Pokemon without telling, and they end up gaining something without me getting as much.

There, that ends my little rant.

A lot of people, especially event and IV breeders, clone their pokemon because others may also want it if it's in high demand. Not everyone uses an AR to clone.

Another note, I miss pokemon...sigh...the IV breeding was fun.

Chains February 9th, 2010 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayley Williams (Post 5536243)
I wanna ask something here.

Am I the only one against cloning Pokemon for trading?
I just think it's unfair for people who have access to AR and can hack to clone, whereas people who can't clone at all, get screwed over.

I just can't stand that whenever I trade Pokemon with someone, that they've cloned their Pokemon without telling, and they end up gaining something without me getting as much.

There, that ends my little rant.

Why dont you ask them to clone and send a copy back...? Isnt that what everyone else normally does?

TwilightBlade February 10th, 2010 3:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayley Williams (Post 5536243)
I wanna ask something here.

Am I the only one against cloning Pokemon for trading?
I just think it's unfair for people who have access to AR and can hack to clone, whereas people who can't clone at all, get screwed over.

I just can't stand that whenever I trade Pokemon with someone, that they've cloned their Pokemon without telling, and they end up gaining something without me getting as much.

There, that ends my little rant.

I assume you have a wireless router? GTS cloning is an option on D/P. No AR. I understand your point, but you do have that option... Fair game, ekeke?

Most traders do tell you ahead of time that a Pokemon has been cloned, and if not, it is obvious when their inventory never decreases, lol. :(

Alternative February 10th, 2010 3:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwilightBlade (Post 5538742)
I assume you have a wireless router? GTS cloning is an option on D/P. No AR. I understand your point, but you do have that option... Fair game, ekeke?

Most traders do tell you ahead of time that a Pokemon has been cloned, and if not, it is obvious when their inventory never decreases, lol. :(

I know about GTS Cloning, but it seems kinda risky to me, so I'm not even gonna try it out.

It just annoys me that people clone when others can't and the original cloner won't offer to clone the other Pokemon for them.

Alternative February 12th, 2010 5:38 PM

I have a question.
Is it okay to ask here about a collab trade shop?

TwilightBlade February 12th, 2010 6:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minixjo2010 (Post 5541953)
I need a japanese meowth ifanyone wants to trade me. I dont have much, but I'll see what I have...

Ew, use Quick Trade. :>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayley Williams (Post 5538743)
I know about GTS Cloning, but it seems kinda risky to me, so I'm not even gonna try it out.

It just annoys me that people clone when others can't and the original cloner won't offer to clone the other Pokemon for them.

Uh, ask for Arceus, as I believe that it's still banned on the GTS (haven't done any trading in a while...). As such, no one would take your Pokemon. If you are wary about that, use... level 100 Sunkern, Venonat, Diglett, Mankey, Shuppet? Can't you specify region/gender etc?
I believe many would offer a copy back... Pessimistic much?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayley Williams (Post 5545944)
I have a question.
Is it okay to ask here about a collab trade shop?

Yeah, I think that would be okay.

Detox February 12th, 2010 6:27 PM

So yeah, i'm really bored and need something to breed. Any suggestions? Oh, and no OU;s >___> I'm sick and tired of that tier for now.

VCaliber February 12th, 2010 7:11 PM

Breed an Onix..then evolve it to Steelix....

Detox February 12th, 2010 7:13 PM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Nah, I hate metal snaggletoothed snakes ^____^

Jake♫ February 12th, 2010 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 5546074)
So yeah, i'm really bored and need something to breed. Any suggestions? Oh, and no OU;s >___> I'm sick and tired of that tier for now.

Clearly you should breed...Absol?

VCaliber February 12th, 2010 7:16 PM

Breed Meditite for Medicham.

Detox February 13th, 2010 8:18 AM

I have meditite, and I have a krow so no absol, k?

Chains February 13th, 2010 2:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 5547364)
I have meditite, and I have a krow so no absol, k?

Breed an Arcanine =)
Impish/Bold Bulky Set, its something different =/

Ive been breeding a bunch lol
Spoiler:

Infernape *Shiny*
Naive
31/30/30/31/31/31
Egg Moves: Fake Out, Counter, Helping Hand, Encore
Hidden Power: Ice 70

Milotic *Shiny*
Calm
31/10/31/30/31/31
Egg Moves: Hypnosis, Haze, Mist
Hidden Power: Grass 70

Tyranitar *Shiny*
Careful
31/31/31/31/31/31
Egg Moves: Curse

Minun
Timid
31/2/30/31/31/31
Hidden Power: Ice 70

Spiritomb *Shiny*
Impish
31/31/31/X/31/31
Egg Move: Pain Split

Togekiss
Calm
31/2/31/31/31/31
Egg Moves: Nasty Plot

Detox February 13th, 2010 2:53 PM

I want to breed Tauros

So I will

Alternative February 14th, 2010 3:55 AM

Here goes nothing.

I am looking for a trade partnership/collaboration with someone who is willing to do the same thing.
I can EV Train and breed for egg moves.
I cannot IV Breed.

That's all I got now. : P

VCaliber February 14th, 2010 10:27 AM

This trading place has gone to ze dogs..noobs coming in every hour not reading the rules and making random spam threads. t the time of this message there's like four of them.


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