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Amore October 30th, 2009 12:09 PM

Halt the anime!Animal Cruelty is promoted!!
 
You know how there's been cancelled episodes because of guns, cleavage, jynx etc??

How comes in Battle Frontier Ash beat a load of Beedrill with a stick????

This promotes animal cruelty!Someone should sue!

Unown_ October 30th, 2009 12:25 PM

Your implying that Ash should do nothing and wait for him to get seriously injured?
And really... sue a non-existing person? Are you serious?

Prince_of_Light October 30th, 2009 12:34 PM

lol I'm thinking he's being just a tad sarcastic. Censorship is so silly. Although yes, I AM surprised nobody has said something about that, considering there are people who thought pokemon = satan back during the major fad years.

DonRoyale October 30th, 2009 3:12 PM

I think even PETA would laugh at this. And that is saying something.

Spoiler:
Never mind the idea of enslaving various species of animals and forcing them to fight. Let's get all Mike Vick up in here!

if you get that reference I love you

Nyu~♥! October 30th, 2009 3:57 PM

I hate this idea. The fact that people think it encourages animal cruelty - seriously. That's why they're MONSTERS and not ANIMALS.
They're supposed to fight, and besides, if there were some loser who likes to hurt animals, they'd be watching something besides Pokémon, of all shows..


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You know how there's been cancelled episodes because of guns, cleavage, jynx etc??
Umm, yeah, we know. But what does this have to do with animal cruelty? Umm.. cleavage doesn't hurt animals at all.. unless you're that type of helpless perv.. but.. that never happened in the show. :/ The guns were not used on Pokémon. In fact, not on anyone. (But I think they shot and missed). But remember, these are adults who make this show, not little kids. There's going to be innuendo in it somewhere for the adults who watch it with their kids. The Jynx issue was suspition of Black Face. It's racist, and I see where they got that idea from. I don't belive it was actally made to mimic it, but we may never know. But really.. what does THAT have to do with animal cruelty?! The only time I remember them dealing with this is when someone ditched a charmander, and Ash knew it was wrong.. But.. that was totally against animal cruelty. i think there might be a moral in the episode...

Quote:

How comes in Battle Frontier Ash beat a load of Beedrill with a stick????
Why else would he? They were attacking him. If dogs were biting at you and you were covered by them, and you had no other choice, you would have to hurt them and slow them down. Seriously. Humans are actually worth more than animals, but I'm not going to get religous with it.

EDIT:
I find it very concerning that yet you are playing Pokémon games, and watching the show apparently, and yet, approving this idea.. Seriously...

MiniEggs October 30th, 2009 3:58 PM

I find it meaner that you use your wigglytuff as a punchingbag and enslave a whole "species". And by you i man collectively not singularly

roacherman October 30th, 2009 6:33 PM

I couldnt help but guffaw at the OP. Seriously. So Ash is going to stand there just getting stung by bees who are potentially poisonous to die because he didnt want to be so cruel? BS if you ask me.

I find this whole issue WAY to exaggerated. This is why they are called pokeMON (MON MEANS MONSTER!!!!!) I mean sure they are based on real animals, but remember that some of these are actually kept as pets, and some of them are used for contests (although there is battling involved) meaning little to no "cruelty"

Amore October 31st, 2009 3:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince_of_Light (Post 5275551)
lol I'm thinking he's being just a tad sarcastic. Censorship is so silly. Although yes, I AM surprised nobody has said something about that, considering there are people who thought pokemon = satan back during the major fad years.


The only one who actually go it right. I am just being sarcastic.

And also seeing just what people would say

ArcanineOod October 31st, 2009 4:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kitsukitty (Post 5276125)
Umm, yeah, we know. But what does this have to do with animal cruelty? Umm.. cleavage doesn't hurt animals at all.. unless you're that type of helpless perv.. but.. that never happened in the show. :/ The guns were not used on Pokémon. In fact, not on anyone. (But I think they shot and missed). But remember, these are adults who make this show, not little kids. There's going to be innuendo in it somewhere for the adults who watch it with their kids. The Jynx issue was suspition of Black Face. It's racist, and I see where they got that idea from. I don't belive it was actally made to mimic it, but we may never know. But really.. what does THAT have to do with animal cruelty?! The only time I remember them dealing with this is when someone ditched a charmander, and Ash knew it was wrong.. But.. that was totally against animal cruelty. i think there might be a moral in the episode...

I believe that in mentioning the other banned episodes, they were making the point that these episodes were banned but the animal cruelty wasn't. Making a comparison. Not saying that these had to do with animal cruelty.

Like...
These epsiodes(Jynx etc) were banned for stuff like cleavage, so why wasn't this episode banned for promoting animal cruelty.


... I think. Please, someone tell me I'm right... *crosses fingers*


In keeping with what others have said, I don't think it's really animal cruelty. He was acting in self defence, just like anyone would if a load of dangerous creatures started attacking you... Right?

xX

♣Gawain♣ October 31st, 2009 5:12 AM

Common sense.

What are you gonna do if you've been attacked by wild animals, which in most cases are trying to KILL you. Will you just stare blanky at space, waiting for something to happen? No.

lol

It's the animals who is cruel to the humans(although we are animals).

blazikem072 October 31st, 2009 5:16 AM

lol next time you blabble on about random crap know what the hell your saying first and back it up with some tangible proof

♣Gawain♣ October 31st, 2009 5:22 AM

^ are you talking to me, or to the thread maker? Either way, you're being sarcastic. And look who's talking! Spammer.

I also think why they don't ban those "animal cruelty" episodes becasue they don't show censored or out age stuff. Like those cleavage or gun episodes(which depicts real violence). And they're essential to the show which shows battle of survival ans wits which young people(children) would watch and understand.

Nyu~♥! October 31st, 2009 9:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unidentified Flying Aces (Post 5277236)
The only one who actually go it right. I am just being sarcastic.

And also seeing just what people would say


Ah, good. XD Interesting choice, though. Sorry if i was being an idiot like this. :/ But why did you bring it up now? Did someone say this to you? :|

ShinjisLover October 31st, 2009 9:25 AM

Quote:

Seriously. Humans are actually worth more than animals, but I'm not going to get religous with it.
That explains why animals came first and lived without humans for millions of years, huh? Also
1) Animals vs. Humans isn't really religious.
2) Religious is how you spell that.

As for the Satoshi beating Beedrill thing, I say: If you were being chased by a swarm of deadly, humongous bees with spears on its legs, wouldn't you fight back, too? If you didn't, you'd die. Survival, bud. It's all about survival.

The rest of the censoring really has nothing to do with animal cruelty. You didn't even mention the battles.

Nyu~♥! October 31st, 2009 9:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ShinjisLover (Post 5277794)

That explains why animals came first and lived without humans for millions of years, huh? Also
1) Animals vs. Humans isn't really religious.
2) Religious is how you spell that.

As for the Satoshi beating Beedrill thing, I say: If you were being chased by a swarm of deadly, humongous bees with spears on its legs, wouldn't you fight back, too? If you didn't, you'd die. Survival, bud. It's all about survival.

The rest of the censoring really has nothing to do with animal cruelty. You didn't even mention the battles.

Humans are animals, so there's no reason fighting over this.. especially because the person already said he/she was being sarcastic.. I know that I'm being contradictive, sorta.. and er, spelling isn't important over the internet. In my religon, they sorta are, so yeah.

Alice October 31st, 2009 5:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unidentified Flying Aces (Post 5277236)
The only one who actually go it right. I am just being sarcastic.

And also seeing just what people would say

They're STILL taking it seriously... lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonRoyale (Post 5275976)
I think even PETA would laugh at this. And that is saying something.

Spoiler:
Never mind the idea of enslaving various species of animals and forcing them to fight. Let's get all Mike Vick up in here!

if you get that reference I love you

Well, I wont say I love you back, but thanks for the compliment.

Spinor November 1st, 2009 5:47 PM

I'm not sure if I should be laughing or calling names to the OP, so I'll just post a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head

http://square-cat.com/wiki/images/9/96/Bunny_Pancake.jpg

Zomfg, animal cruelty. Pancakes are for people :( We should sue!

Nina November 1st, 2009 8:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyu~♥! (Post 5277882)
er, spelling isn't important over the internet

Eet myt seam sew, buht ahvkores yoar thearii haz sum ihshoos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyu~♥! (Post 5277882)
Humans are animals, so there's no reason fighting over this.. especially because the person already said he/she was being sarcastic.. I know that I'm being contradictive, sorta.. and er, spelling isn't important over the internet. In my religon, they sorta are, so yeah.

You are not being sorta being contradictory, you are being contradictory. If humans are animals, you can't say that animals are not as important as humans. Apples, which are good, are fruits, but fruits are not as good as apples, therefore the apple; being a fruit, cannot be good. You mean to say that non-humanoid organisms are of lesser value because "they aren't as smart as us" or "they have no souls". Which is an entire discussion upon itself.


And anyways, Pokemon have always been held as being more than dumb animals (and certainly not monsters, even if they're named that) by at least the upstanding citizens in the world of Pokemon. Most seem to enjoy battling as humans enjoy fighting sports. Well actually, it's not even as gory as what humans do.
For the example given, even if it is a joke: something attacks you, you attack it back. Or you get hurt. And we try our best not to do that.

Oh yeah. v They PRAY to Pokemon, surely they are not just monsters used for fighting.

Nyu~♥! November 6th, 2009 3:28 PM

i think you get my point.. :/ No need pointing things out.

MechaTrickster November 6th, 2009 3:56 PM

Theyre poke=Pocket, mon=Monsters theyre supossed to fight, attack, faint, die, what ever, so what if theyre based of animals? Its not like theyre encouraging animal cruelty. And if somone trys to sue well... Theres 5% chance they win. Seeing how powerful gamefreak and nintendo are.

Akio123 November 6th, 2009 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unidentified Flying Aces (Post 5275480)
You know how there's been cancelled episodes because of guns, cleavage, jynx etc??

How comes in Battle Frontier Ash beat a load of Beedrill with a stick????

This promotes animal cruelty!Someone should sue!

You are aware that the ENTIRE franchise is basically about pitting animals against in each like Mexican Rooster (The word is censored XD) fighting right?

ReyRey-Pyon November 7th, 2009 12:16 PM

Lol.

That is all.

Pokemon basically is people stuffing animals into tiny balls and then forcing them to electrocute eachother with over 9000 watts of electricity
and burnin eachother with OVER 9000 degrees of fire for entertainment purposes

Of coarse a ten year old boy fighting off a swarm of giant wasps with spears on their legs with a stick as a act of self defence is worse. :(

And that's TERRIBLE

Luck November 7th, 2009 3:27 PM

Wait what?

Attacking bees that can impale and you in self defense is animal cruelty, but forcing animals to fight each other through various torture methods(torching, draining, flooding, stabbing, slashing, etc.) for your own entertainment isn't?

I fail to see why that action is so much more evil than what normally goes on, but that is just me.

Masterge77 November 13th, 2009 10:50 AM

This is a load of bullcrap, I bet somewhere, a PETA member is reading this and laughing evilly, I mean really, promoting animal cruelty, don't you know what this is?

THIS

IS

POKEMON!!!!!!!!

*kicks activist into pit of death*

Prince_of_Light November 13th, 2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Luck (Post 5300568)
Wait what?

Attacking bees that can impale and you in self defense is animal cruelty, but forcing animals to fight each other through various torture methods(torching, draining, flooding, stabbing, slashing, etc.) for your own entertainment isn't?

I fail to see why that action is so much more evil than what normally goes on, but that is just me.

Hahahaha. Very good point. I suppose it's different though because pokemon are sentient.


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