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PokemonLeagueChamp November 12th, 2009 3:13 AM

Well, I really don't see what the point of that would be. I think it would wind up only reflecting how many posts or trades in a thread and not its design.
And aren't there already thread guidelines?

El Héroe Oscuro November 12th, 2009 3:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pokemonleaguechamp (Post 5313394)
Well, I really don't see what the point of that would be. I think it would wind up only reflecting how many posts or trades in a thread and not its design.
And aren't there already thread guidelines?

It doesn't have to just be activity, it can be based on design also.Usually a good designed and well thought-out layout gets a good number of posts anyway.

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty November 12th, 2009 4:46 AM

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Originally Posted by elheroeoscuro (Post 5313401)
It doesn't have to just be activity, it can be based on design also.Usually a good designed and well thought-out layout gets a good number of posts anyway.

In the Other Chat forum they run a "Member of the Month" thing where a thread is created and you vote within that thread for your member, stating why you're voting for them. Perhaps the Trade Corner could run a similar idea? It would just make it feel more of a community and less a place where nobody really knows anybody else unless they do a trade with them. But that might just be my socialist side showing. xP

Greene1516 November 12th, 2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Moriarty (Post 5313437)
In the Other Chat forum they run a "Member of the Month" thing where a thread is created and you vote within that thread for your member, stating why you're voting for them. Perhaps the Trade Corner could run a similar idea? It would just make it feel more of a community and less a place where nobody really knows anybody else unless they do a trade with them. But that might just be my socialist side showing. xP

In a place where 50% of the posters intentionally break rules and try to scam others it wouldn't work out so well. The trade forums are unfortunately the part of the forums that get the most idiots, which really sucks because there are some awesome traders here.

On the note of the hack check thread, I don't see anyone can possibly get scammed. You don't need to actually trade the Pokemon to get it checked as just by being in the trade room or entering the data here someone can get full access to all necessary data without actually taking the Pokemon. It just isn't possible for someone to get scammed and I know how it all goes 'cause I hack check for people here all the time.

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty November 12th, 2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Greene1516 (Post 5313989)
It just isn't possible for someone to get scammed and I know how it all goes 'cause I hack check for people here all the time.

I disagree; people are scammed all the time, from newbies to experienced traders. You state that you hack-check for people - well, if all people are supposed to know exactly what to expect in a Pokémon, why do you have to check for them?

A hack-thread would be helpful, but if it's an issue on space I'm still all for a terminology thread. Several people have PM'd me to ask for details on certain terminology - they didn't want to ask on my thread itself because they're scared of being jumped on for being idiots. Which does happen on this forum.

SCV058 November 12th, 2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Moriarty (Post 5313999)
I disagree; people are scammed all the time, from newbies to experienced traders. You state that you hack-check for people - well, if all people are supposed to know exactly what to expect in a Pokémon, why do you have to check for them?

A hack-thread would be helpful, but if it's an issue on space I'm still all for a terminology thread. Several people have PM'd me to ask for details on certain terminology - they didn't want to ask on my thread itself because they're scared of being jumped on for being idiots. Which does happen on this forum.

I agree- I recieve many posts on such terminology as well as PMs.
As a suggestion, what if a seperate sub-forum was created so that those who have popular, well-made trade threads, and are known to be trustworthy, (i.e. Moriarity, Greene, Conan, meself, etc.) have their threads placed there so people don't have to sort through dead and junky posts to get to them.
New threads can be put somewhere else until they become proven and are moved with the other trade threads.

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty November 12th, 2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SCV058 (Post 5314005)
I agree- I recieve many posts on such terminology as well as PMs.
As a suggestion, what if a seperate sub-forum was created so that those who have popular, well-made trade threads, and are known to be trustworthy, (i.e. Moriarity, Greene, Conan, meself, etc.) have their threads placed there so people don't have to sort through dead and junky posts to get to them.
New threads can be put somewhere else until they become proven and are moved with the other trade threads.

Or maybe once a thread reaches a benchmark (500 posts plus, say) it gets moved to that sub-forum? Otherwise if it's just an issue of popularity, other 'good' threads from good users could be overlooked.

SCV058 November 12th, 2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Moriarty (Post 5314009)
Or maybe once a thread reaches a benchmark (500 posts plus, say) it gets moved to that sub-forum? Otherwise if it's just an issue of popularity, other 'good' threads from good users could be overlooked.

500 + ...
I might say a little less, like 300+
I think thats still pretty reasonable because those other junk threads would never reach even that far...

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty November 12th, 2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SCV058 (Post 5314028)
500 + ...
I might say a little less, like 300+
I think thats still pretty reasonable because those other junk threads would never reach even that far...

Very true. Most junk threads seem to hit 10 and then drop to the bottom.

Oh, and I forgot to add, Ursula - I think having basic guidelines would be great. So many threads are laid out in so many different ways that it's easy to get confused. :]

El Héroe Oscuro November 12th, 2009 11:52 AM

I don't honestly believe theres any need for a sub-forum for other threads. Can you explain again why we should use them?

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Originally Posted by Greene1516 (Post 5313989)
In a place where 50% of the posters intentionally break rules and try to scam others it wouldn't work out so well. The trade forums are unfortunately the part of the forums that get the most idiots, which really sucks because there are some awesome traders here.

On the note of the hack check thread, I don't see anyone can possibly get scammed. You don't need to actually trade the Pokemon to get it checked as just by being in the trade room or entering the data here someone can get full access to all necessary data without actually taking the Pokemon. It just isn't possible for someone to get scammed and I know how it all goes 'cause I hack check for people here all the time.

That is why you would have to be nominated by possibly five people to be put in the ballot.

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty November 12th, 2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elheroeoscuro (Post 5314042)
I don't honestly believe theres any need for a sub-forum for other threads. Can you explain again why we should use them?

The Trade Centre is currently swamped with 'junk threads' - either threads created in error (should have been in the Quick Trade thread, for example) or threads which die pretty easily and sink. But these threads saturate the other, more 'popular' threads and push them onto pages two or three, despite the fact that the most they'll do is, say, ten trades. (Normally it's the thread creator who lets them die, as well - they'll either VM or PM their offers to people, and so the thread sinks due to inactivity.)

I only joined PC two months ago so I can guarantee that it's pretty confusing when you first wander in and are hit by a wall of threads. So maybe it would be nice to have a sub-forum of the more 'serious' threads, or traders who have been around for a while (and who are actually going to stick around for a while longer) and who are known to be trusted, or who tend to deal in more rare Pokémon. Sort of like having department stores and flea markets in any town or city.

El Héroe Oscuro November 12th, 2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Moriarty (Post 5314061)
The Trade Centre is currently swamped with 'junk threads' - either threads created in error (should have been in the Quick Trade thread, for example) or threads which die pretty easily and sink. But these threads saturate the other, more 'popular' threads and push them onto pages two or three, despite the fact that the most they'll do is, say, ten trades. (Normally it's the thread creator who lets them die, as well - they'll either VM or PM their offers to people, and so the thread sinks due to inactivity.)

I only joined PC two months ago so I can guarantee that it's pretty confusing when you first wander in and are hit by a wall of threads. So maybe it would be nice to have a sub-forum of the more 'serious' threads, or traders who have been around for a while (and who are actually going to stick around for a while longer) and who are known to be trusted, or who tend to deal in more rare Pokémon. Sort of like having department stores and flea markets in any town or city.

Alright. Theres still really no need for an unneccesary sub-forum. A.) The mods will get rid of the mistaken threads and B.) All you have to do to bring your thread back to the front page is bump it. Also, theres really no way to tell which threads are serious and which are not. A successful thread owner can continue for weeks and then quit suddenly.

SCV058 November 12th, 2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Moriarty (Post 5314061)
The Trade Centre is currently swamped with 'junk threads' - either threads created in error (should have been in the Quick Trade thread, for example) or threads which die pretty easily and sink. But these threads saturate the other, more 'popular' threads and push them onto pages two or three, despite the fact that the most they'll do is, say, ten trades. (Normally it's the thread creator who lets them die, as well - they'll either VM or PM their offers to people, and so the thread sinks due to inactivity.)

I only joined PC two months ago so I can guarantee that it's pretty confusing when you first wander in and are hit by a wall of threads. So maybe it would be nice to have a sub-forum of the more 'serious' threads, or traders who have been around for a while (and who are actually going to stick around for a while longer) and who are known to be trusted, or who tend to deal in more rare Pokémon. Sort of like having department stores and flea markets in any town or city.

An excellent explanation of what I am talking about.
And Moriarty drop by my Emporium there is a post that concerns you

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty November 12th, 2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elheroeoscuro (Post 5314074)
Alright. Theres still really no need for an unneccesary sub-forum. A.) The mods will get rid of the mistaken threads and B.) All you have to do to bring your thread back to the front page is bump it. Also, theres really no way to tell which threads are serious and which are not. A successful thread owner can continue for weeks and then quit suddenly.

Hmmm, very true. But it was just a suggestion; Ursula asked for ideas and so SCV058 put one forward and I backed it. Its her decision overall. The only thing I'm really gunning for, like I said, is a terminology thread. :]

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Originally Posted by SCV058 (Post 5314079)
An excellent explanation of what I am talking about.
And Moriarty drop by my Emporium there is a post that concerns you

OH NOOOOO WHAT DID I DO D:

SCV058 November 12th, 2009 12:10 PM

Ah, nothing.... yet
Is there something I should know about (=

El Héroe Oscuro November 12th, 2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Moriarty (Post 5314080)
Hmmm, very true. But it was just a suggestion; Ursula asked for ideas and so SCV058 put one forward and I backed it. Its her decision overall. The only thing I'm really gunning for, like I said, is a terminology thread. :]

I'm not trying to call you out or anything if it seems like that, I'm just providing solutions to the problems at hand. I'm still backing up my claim for a "Hall of Fame" for Trades :3

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty November 12th, 2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elheroeoscuro (Post 5314097)
I'm not trying to call you out or anything if it seems like that, I'm just providing solutions to the problems at hand. I'm still backing up my claim for a "Hall of Fame" for Trades :3

I like that idea too. It would make the TC feel more like a community.

dr4g0n12 November 14th, 2009 12:25 AM

Most people here that are new dont even take time to read the rules, even if it says read before posting. I know this because i have made this mistake.

LilacLust November 14th, 2009 2:00 AM

we should have a kinda GTS, where there is a long list of offers and wants :)

Pave Low November 14th, 2009 2:08 AM

I think that their should be a Pokemon Donation thread. Here people can donate some of their unwanted Pokemon and other people can have them. People who have obtained a Pokemon from the donator can train them and really take care of them. The donator could make a post of his unwanted Pokemon and someone will ask for them or a few of them. It would be easier than a giveaway aswell...

dr4g0n12 November 14th, 2009 2:35 AM

Cloning should be allowed. Everyone was happy when it was

Pave Low November 14th, 2009 2:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dr4g0n12 (Post 5318348)
Cloning should be allowed. Everyone was happy when it was

You should really write some reasons, the staff aren't gonna be lured in just with this...

PokemonLeagueChamp November 14th, 2009 4:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Demolition (Post 5318359)
You should really write some reasons, the staff aren't gonna be lured in just with this...

I can give reasons.
1. Because everyone clones their own Pokes anyway.
2. Because frequent traders know who is trustworthy for such things.
3. Because some may need help because they don't know how to clone.

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty November 14th, 2009 5:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pokemonleaguechamp (Post 5318445)
I can give reasons.
1. Because everyone clones their own Pokes anyway.
2. Because frequent traders know who is trustworthy for such things.
3. Because some may need help because they don't know how to clone.

4. I would rather see clones of legitimate Pokémon out there than out-and-out hacks.

El Héroe Oscuro November 14th, 2009 7:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Demolition (Post 5318326)
I think that their should be a Pokemon Donation thread. Here people can donate some of their unwanted Pokemon and other people can have them. People who have obtained a Pokemon from the donator can train them and really take care of them. The donator could make a post of his unwanted Pokemon and someone will ask for them or a few of them. It would be easier than a giveaway aswell...

Just wondering, you say donate pokemon but who would hold these pokemon? Are you just stating that your telling the person to write down what your donating and that the person must Vm/Pm you for it? Sounds a little bit of a hassle haha.

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Originally Posted by dr4g0n12 (Post 5318348)
Cloning should be allowed. Everyone was happy when it was

Technically, cloning is allowed, but you can't offer cloning services in your thread. I mean, you clone pokemon to offer to your customers, but you just can't say in your thread "Hey everybody, I'm offering cloning services, gimmee your pokemon!". Besides, everyone does cloning in secracy, and I honestly don't think that the mods are going to overule the "Cloning" rule even with those points your making

Just adding one more quick thing. They do allow it, if you've read the rules:
Cloning threads...
To avoid users from being stolen Pokémon, it's now against the rules to create cloning threads, so such threads will be closed instantly. If you see a thread offering to clone Pokémon, DO NOT ACCEPT, because that's the easiest way to steal Pokémon. Instead, report the thread. If you want someone to clone you a Pokémon, you may ask it through PM, but remember this is at your own risk, so make sure it's someone you know well. You may also not sneak cloning services into your threads. We WILL find it and remove it.
Also, if someone offers you to clone Pokémon, never accept it from a new member


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