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PyrgusMalvae December 4th, 2009 4:38 PM

I'm not all that surprised. I mean, Hydrogen is a really common element, and Oxygen isn't terribly scarce, so H2O can form in a lot of places. There's water on Mars too. I mean, it's really cool news, but not a mind-numbing shocker.

.little monster December 5th, 2009 8:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PyrgusMalvae (Post 5372405)
I'm not all that surprised. I mean, Hydrogen is a really common element, and Oxygen isn't terribly scarce, so H2O can form in a lot of places. There's water on Mars too. I mean, it's really cool news, but not a mind-numbing shocker.

Water-ice.

People need to start saying water-ice. There is difference between liquid water and water-ice. D:

There is also water vapor in the atmospheres of Venus and Jupiter and there is a liquid ocean under Jupiter's moon Europa, which has a high possibility of supporting life. O:

But yeah, this is neat. Moon base? : 3 Not a colony though! The Moon's gravity is not strong enough to keep calcium and other nutrients in our body. So people who stay there long enough will either:

1. Become too weak to come back to Earth.
2. Die.

: D

Not to mention cancer, unless they put a foot of led into the walls/build the base underground.

Captain Hobo. December 5th, 2009 9:35 AM

I would not move there because you would have to a space sute all the time.

Rich Boy Rob December 5th, 2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sillypillz (Post 5374099)
I would not move there because you would have to a space sute all the time.

Not if they pressurised the base and made biomes to produce oxygen.

GreenStorm December 6th, 2009 2:18 PM

I think it's great. I don't know what else to say than more water for us.

.little monster December 6th, 2009 2:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Boy Rob (Post 5374581)
Not if they pressurised the base and made biomes to produce oxygen.

Actually, what they would do is install a machine that turns water into oxygen, then a filter system for the C02. It's cheaper than a bio-dome.

Rich Boy Rob December 7th, 2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by t.A.T.u (Post 5377732)
Actually, what they would do is install a machine that turns water into oxygen, then a filter system for the C02. It's cheaper than a bio-dome.

True, but a biome could also produce food for the colonists.

Rabbit December 7th, 2009 8:25 PM

I'm waiting for them to drill a little deeper and discover that the Moon is actually hollow inside due to being an ancient alien spaceship. Yep. Any day now...

Spearow December 7th, 2009 9:01 PM

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I don't know what else to say than more water for us.
Okay. When we have to transport hunks of moon ice to Earth for drinking purposes, that's when we'll know we're really hard up. At that point it'd probably more economically practical to desalinate ocean water, although I won't deny that drinking space water would be totally frickin awesome

Nincada December 7th, 2009 9:03 PM

Is there anything that, in the mind of America, explosives won't solve? XD

I am so thrilled about this news, although the water was mainly extracted from the plume of stuff shot up by the boom.

Agent Cobalt December 7th, 2009 9:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nincada (Post 5380932)
Is there anything that, in the mind of America, explosives won't solve?

NO.

Don't you ever try to take that from us... Ever...

Rabbit December 8th, 2009 10:38 AM

Transporting water from the moon is waaaay too expensive as a solution to the water problem. Before we did that we would first use up all our hydrogen & oxygen to produce h2o.

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The Moon's gravity is not strong enough to keep calcium and other nutrients in our body.
Reeeally? Where did you read that? I can't find anything related to nutrients and weightlessness. Your muscles and bones deteriorate, we know that, but excersize can minimize that.

But yeah, moon colonists would have a very hard time coming back to Earth. The gravity would flatten them. Maybe it could be used as...a penal colony?

Virtual Chatot December 8th, 2009 2:20 PM

Unless they can give me undeniable proof that the Moon exists, I won't believe there is water on it.

kcrew January 1st, 2010 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabbit (Post 5381657)
But yeah, moon colonists would have a very hard time coming back to Earth. The gravity would flatten them. Maybe it could be used as...a penal colony?

That's one problem as to moon life. And also, as for the air problem, terraforming would not help. You need gravity to prevent air from floating off...

Rich Boy Rob January 2nd, 2010 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrew (Post 5441609)
That's one problem as to moon life. And also, as for the air problem, terraforming would not help. You need gravity to prevent air from floating off...

Which is why you seal the colony in an airtight biodome.

Gary, the Magic Fairy January 2nd, 2010 3:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Boy Rob (Post 5444368)
Which is why you seal the colony in an airtight biodome.

Why would anyone want to live on the moon, anyways? The moon sucks. Why don't you just move to Antarctica? It's warmer than the part of the moon not lit by the sun. Plus, it doesn't get up past the boiling point of water when the sun is shining. Also there's penguins, instead of... you know, rocks and moon dust or whatever the hell is up there.

twocows January 2nd, 2010 3:46 PM

This is certainly an interesting development. I wouldn't get your space suits on yet, but I can certainly imagine this being a huge step forward toward colonizing the moon. It's certainly possible that within one or two lifetimes, what we've previously only seen in sci-fi may become the stuff of reality.

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Originally Posted by Doctor Richtofen (Post 5318528)
I heard about this yesterday. Kinda reminds me of Dan Brown's Deception Point for all who have read it. I really don't care what they do up there, because I will never - NEVER - go up there. Something bad is bound to happen, plus, I like to be down here on Earth, where we have GRAVITY and WARMTH. The moon is too cold and too lightweight for me.

Uh, why? Because somebody wrote a story about it? There have been plenty of fictional stories about crap going wrong right here on this very planet, it's not a valid reason to stay away from it. Also, the moon has gravity, it's just less than the earth's (technically, anything with mass has a gravitational force). As for heat, if we have water on the moon, we can, in isolated areas, (a) make air with oxygen, and (b) get electricity, which when coupled with solar power, we can use to produce heat. The main problem I see is one of monetary resources; we'd need some of the most advanced technology available, and even NASA's budget wouldn't be able to afford it all.

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Originally Posted by Virtual Chatot (Post 5382048)
Unless they can give me undeniable proof that the Moon exists, I won't believe there is water on it.

Hahaha, good one. That was more sophisticated than I expected. xD

Rolling Pichu January 2nd, 2010 6:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Richtofen (Post 5318528)
I heard about this yesterday. Kinda reminds me of Dan Brown's Deception Point for all who have read it. I really don't care what they do up there, because I will never - NEVER - go up there. Something bad is bound to happen, plus, I like to be down here on Earth, where we have GRAVITY and WARMTH. The moon is too cold and too lightweight for me.

I'd worry about the day heat rather than the cold. Like this fella up there said, there's a way around cold temperatures. It's gonna be harder surviving the lunar day comfortably.

.little monster January 2nd, 2010 6:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabbit (Post 5381657)
Transporting water from the moon is waaaay too expensive as a solution to the water problem. Before we did that we would first use up all our hydrogen & oxygen to produce h2o.



Reeeally? Where did you read that? I can't find anything related to nutrients and weightlessness. Your muscles and bones deteriorate, we know that, but excersize can minimize that.

But yeah, moon colonists would have a very hard time coming back to Earth. The gravity would flatten them. Maybe it could be used as...a penal colony?

Um, why do you think the bones deteriorate? Do little bits and pieces float away? o:

Now, I know this is hard, but let's try and use some common sense to answer that.

Rolling Pichu January 2nd, 2010 6:16 PM

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Reeeally? Where did you read that? I can't find anything related to nutrients and weightlessness. Your muscles and bones deteriorate, we know that, but excersize can minimize that.
In lower gravity it's harder for the intestines to absorb nutrients. That includes Calcium. Do your math.

True Reign January 2nd, 2010 11:46 PM

I would rather scientists focusing more on Europa then the Moon imo.

Rolling Pichu January 3rd, 2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Accursed (Post 5446138)
I would rather scientists focusing more on Europa then the Moon imo.

I don't think you have a notion of what "scientists in general" focus on... you'd probably want to blame the media instead.

Rocket_Executive January 3rd, 2010 12:08 AM

The amount of water found on the moon was actually negligable, i.e. molecules-worth. It's also frozen; liquid water can't exist there because there isn't enough pressure, so it's not as big of a deal as NASA is letting everyone believe.
I think NASA is hyping the whole water-on-the-moon thing because they want the government to think there is a sensible reason to give NASA a larger budget, and they have been looking for a reason for another moon-landing. As long as the economy is doing poorly and tax money is being spent on other things, NASA will have to get creative in its endeavor to seem deserving of funding.

.little monster January 3rd, 2010 1:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Accursed (Post 5446138)
I would rather scientists focusing more on Europa then the Moon imo.

Well, without a lunar base for re-fueling and easy take-off, we wont get to Europa quickly with the equipment we need.

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Originally Posted by Rocket_Executive (Post 5446181)
The amount of water found on the moon was actually negligable, i.e. molecules-worth. It's also frozen; liquid water can't exist there because there isn't enough pressure, so it's not as big of a deal as NASA is letting everyone believe.
I think NASA is hyping the whole water-on-the-moon thing because they want the government to think there is a sensible reason to give NASA a larger budget, and they have been looking for a reason for another moon-landing. As long as the economy is doing poorly and tax money is being spent on other things, NASA will have to get creative in its endeavor to seem deserving of funding.

Um, you obviously don't understand the point. There is actually more water than you're letting on. However, there isn't a lot compared to Earth, it is enough to fuel a base and create fuel, which is all we really can use it for.

Haza January 3rd, 2010 1:52 AM

I thought it was confirmed before? Or was that Mars when they found a peice of ice in the dirt? Eithger way I wont be impressed until a Moon Fish is found d:


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