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Protestant Christian here. I affiliate most with Assemblies of God and Baptist, but I consider my philosophies specifically mine. I don't accept things without being sure they make sense to me personally, and I'm comfortable disagreeing with certain beliefs those groups have. I think that's a healthy attitude.
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Honestly, I don't know what to believe in. I can't find the flaws every where. I would like to believe that there might be some magical man in the sky, it just ins't supported by evidence. Neither is any the science theories really.
So, I guess you could say that I am an Athiest. It is not that I don't believe in him, it is just that I need proof. I can't touch him, smell him, hear him, taste him, see him, or anything else. So, yeah. |
No, I'm not an atheist. I believe in God, and that Jesus died on the cross for us.
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I am an atheist. I personally find religion absurd, irrational and obsolete. Its something about a being about an all-powerful being that sees all, created all and has power over all that doesn't make sense to me. I also find religion to hypocritical, vile and very logically flawed. Im sorry to offend anyone, its just my opinion.
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I am a semi-igtheistic, agnostic, panprotoexperientialistic, henotheistic, henophysitistic, pantheistic, skeptically holistic protestant Lutheran, if it means anything to you. ;3
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Meaning you dont believe in any particular religion... |
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Agnosticism (not necessarily religious, by the way) is actually the belief that certain questions cannot be answered with certainty. I'm a religiously agnostic theist. Id est, I am agnostic and religious at the same time. Not impossible. D: She is a nontheist. |
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I don't know.
It's better to believe than to not believe, this is because the believer gets all in the end if God exists, but if you don't really care and God ends up not existing, you loose nothing. |
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-__-"" Yes, we've already figured that out. And I've been thinking about that. And it still holds a relevant point. But I won't get into that now.
Goat, when I looked up "semi-igtheistic" on Google, this topic was the top result. =P Why do people think that others generally adopt religion on the basis of our parents? Many faithful people I know come from atheistic families, or turned from it early on because they "realized it was stupid", and then returned. It's just too far against the odds for everything to be orderless. I've seen far too many... uncanny things happen to too many people too many times to think existence is entirely unstructured and without an overseer. |
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I know the child indoctrination point certainly doesn't apply to me. |
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I'm a firm Muslim, and nothing can shake my faith. I was a Muslim since birth, and I will always be one, no matter what. There is no faith alternative to Islam that I believe is 100% true.
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I made another thread based on that post more than 3 years ago... http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?p=1605590 (I got banned on that forum for talking about Paul Ehrlich and the Mexico City Policy a year ago) |
oooh no. I believe in the Holy Spirit, Jesus, and God.
Really, I don't really think it's very good to be atheist. When you are in grave danger, who can you talk to that will solve your roblems? Anyway, don't think I hate atheists - I don't. I'm Christian, so being racist, antisemitic or whatever, is totally wrong. Just an opinion. I believe that everyone one is equal whether they believe in God or not. - In the name of the Father, in the name of the Son, and in the Holy Spirit, Amen! :< - |
I'm a Protestant but I have friends from all walks of religion. I believe in God and that we'll Him when we die.
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Yes, but I am not against any one who believes in any sort of god or higher power or some sort. Believe whatever you feel is right.
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Yes. But it isn't that I don't believe in god it is just that I need proof that he exists. I can't smell him, can I? No? Well, how do I know he exists? I can smell the person next to me, I can see them, I can hear them, I could feel them, and heck, I could even taste them if I really wanted to do. But can I do anything like that to this God?
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I'm not sure what I am aside from a dedicated Lightningist. I was raised Catholic but the religion has never struck a chord with me and I really don't believe in it. I suppose if I had to categorize my beliefs, I'd be an atheist but apathy is probably a better fit.
There are so many religions and picking the right one just kind of seems hit-and-miss to me. The idea that I could dedicate my life to following some sort of faith only for it to be the "wrong" one doesn't really appeal to me so I'd rather just follow none of it and do my own thing instead of fretting over religion. If I die and it turns out one religion was right, oops. I'll worry about that then. Furthermore, I don't mind if any of my friends are overly religious or not, so long as they don't force their beliefs or lack thereof on me. So for me, it's more: I can't prove that a God exists, nor can I prove a God doesn't exist, so I'm just gonna ignore the whole thing because I don't really care. |
I'm a Calvinist. n3n
I'm the purest form of evil there is so by no means am I an Atheist because I am a Calvinist which is far superior to a Lightningist but I'm not against Atheists or anything like that. I think more and more our world is turning into "You believe what you want, I'll believe what I want and instead of beating each other up with 2 x 4s, we can talk academically about our differences" I honestly believe nothing good comes from people saying to others 'my religion is better than your religion'. If people are open to hearing you blabber about your faith, then have fun. If they're not, no sense in beating them over the head with a weapon until they fall unconscious and or submit to your line of thinking. n3n |
I would count myself as an atheist. Yet unlike a lot of atheists I really don't care of religion. Yet a lot of atheists hate it which I can understand. But an "eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Sometimes I am heckled for my beliefs (even by teachers >.>). But whatever...
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well to say the least i dont fully utterly believe in the bible no not at all in the least but i do believe that there is something, couldnt anywhere near tell you what, but there is something out there that is "immortal" so to speak if you will.
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Man, these threads usually end horribly, but on it marches :O
Anywho, yes, I am an atheist. I simply do not have faith in any higher beings, and I don't need this faith to rationalize life or death. I'm comfortable with my belief that we are all going to the same place after we die (wherever that may be), regardless of our individual beliefs. In addition, I think there are huge shortcomings when it comes to organized religion. I have no problem with the fact people need religion for personal reasons or to help better the community, but once people start chucking bombs at each other because they believe in different gods, you kinda have to take a step back and ask yourself if it's really worth it. I'm also not too fond of the guilt trip most religions give you if you don't buy into what they're preaching, aka I don't believe in God so I'm going to hell or my soul won't be at rest or whatever. My life is going just fine, thank you very much >: |
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i believe in a way i believe in heaven and hell my dad tells me were livin in hell at the moment but i went to a christian school for about 2 yrs so i guess so i am not a athesist
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i am not an athesist because i beleive that theres a heaven and hell
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And then there's the question of WHICH religion to believe, as I've already brought up. There are thousands of religions on this planet, and nearly every one has a clause that says that if you don't believe in that religion exclusively, bad things will happen to you. So why should anyone pick one religion over any other? They all seem to offer the same things to me, anyway. Finally, the smoking gun against Pascal's argument is the fact that you may very well lose out if you believe in a religion that promises an afterlife if you're wrong. Why? Many people that believe in an afterlife structure their lives preparing for the next, which as we all know is far more important than the current life. This is all just a test anyway, right? It's not as though there isn't a whole new life waiting for me, so I won't bother trying to enjoy this one. Great plan, if there actually is an afterlife. If there isn't, those people threw away a big portion of their lives. The atheist, on the other hand, will live his or her life knowing that this is all there is, and try to make it count for something. I live with the near-certainty that there's nothing after this, so I do what I can to make this life good for myself and others. If I thought there was some afterlife waiting for me, I'd probably be a lot more apathetic about my life. |
No Im not a atheist. Im catholic, and I believe in God. But Im not the kinda of catholic that goes to church every sunday. I dont even go to a catholic church when I do go. My dad plays drums at a church thats for anyone who believes in Jesus/God.
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Personally i have no faith in any religion
Imo its just a waste of time. So i guess technically i am an atheist |
On the note of Pascal again, It has a point to it (living a moral life and finding a neutral death isn't a big deal, but living an immoral or unacceptable life and finding a good-and-evil death would be a problem), but (using Christianity as an example once more) If the only reason for your faith is a self-serving one, it means nothing.
Of course, living religiously does not necessarily mean wasting your life. As far as personal comfort, church and religious events can actually make you feel really good. Socializing with people who are all on the same page is great, and many people enjoy singing. Being a moral person isn't a waste of time either. If you want a good nation, you need good people, and people are influenced by other people. Apathy is not universal. |
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I don't necessarily believe in God, but recently in a sort of half jokey way I question coincidences and would could be signs to myself.
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I'm not an atheist.
I used to be, and understand it fully. I'm a pagan, primarily. No, I'm not a Wiccan. I follow an idiosyncratic path. And I like it that way. Someone on the first page asked why we didn't have a controversial debate forum for stuff like this, and I assume wished for an answer. Well, here it is: we did. We had one of those a few years ago, called the T-Dome. I'm one of the few people on this site old enough to remember this. In short, it was a good premise that immature people devolved into nothing but stupid pre-adolescent sexuality and bickering. Until people learn how to be mature, you can forget about that coming back, I'd say. So you can forget about it coming back ever. |
Just for the record, in relation to the opening post: not believing in Jesus doesn't make you an atheist, it just means that you're any religion other than Christian. Or Messianic Judaism.
I'm Christian. I was raised Roman Catholic but I think my current practices/beliefs are more Methodist than Roman Catholic. I don't go to church either, but I feel that religion is a private matter that we don't have to critique each other on it. |
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I was not brought up in a religious family and I was not brought up in an anti-religious family, I was not taught about any form of religion until I was around 10 years old, by that age I could think for myself and decided that it was something that I held no interest or belief in. It seems silly to me really, an obscure attempt to justify one's existence or explain things that happen throughout the world. I'm not sure why people are captivated by it. It's been prominent throughout history so has managed to survive up until now, but more people are declaring themselves atheist in the modern world (in this country anyway) so I can only (hope to) see it beggining to subside throughout the UK and perhaps Europe in the future. |
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Don't really believe in God and Jesus at all, funny enough Catholic school kinda did that to me by saying that the christian holidays were all based around Paegan holidays XD
But I wouldn't call myself an athiest I don't think. |
Yes,I beleive I`m an atheist.
I see no evidence of being a god or jesus,or some senior citizen gathering up two of EVERY animal in the entire world and putting them on a boat.If he could,it would take too long.It`s common logic. If there is a god I just didn`t see any evidence.No signs,nothing from the sky.And explain space.If there was a god he would have to deal with space.Heaven (if there was one)probably has oxygen,but space has none. And yes this is weird but,I am an atheist that believes in the after-life.I also believe in ghosts,sasquatch,loch ness monster,and all that. So yes I`m pretty sure I`m atheist. |
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I've been one for a long time, I didn't believe anything. but right now I'm mroe religious since my girlfriend goes to church and all that.
I really belive in God now =D |
I think at heart I am Christian, but I don't follow everything the bible. Not to mention I disagree with a lot of it too. It teachs good lessons it does, but people just sometimes get to obsessed with religion...
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I am a true atheist. many people who call themselves aethoiest are in fact agnostics who would believe if the evidence prooved that god exsisted. I however, would still refuse to worship such a malicious and cruel entity.
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I explained my agnosticism here, so most of that applies in this topic also. :3 |
I dont believe in God or the entire concept of gods. It seems way too priimitive and exactly the same as acient civilization practicing rituals and sacrifices for th Sun God and such. Its easier to believe in aliens than God. I just dont trust basing my lifes choices on what people tell you and what you dont know is true. Its brain washing and ignorance in my opinion but I respect those who do believe in religions. And also, I hate it when people call themselves or consider themeselves a devil worshipper and dont beleive in God when if you believe in Satan then you believe in God. :/ Its all just as real as fairy tales to me...
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But really, we shouldn't be talking so much on what was simply a small point. xD; |
I could get into quite the lengthy explanation of aforementioned points, but I won't now. What I will say is this.
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Can't say I am. Atheism doesn't necesarily cut it for me but I personally feel that if they had proven that a divine being cannot exist with definitive scientific evidence, then I wouldn't mind switching over.
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Seems like someone was epically confused.
I think personally it's wrong to criticize others either way when it comes to personal beliefs, since it is something so personal, but then again, many people are taught that "what they believe in is right" (which, to be honest, I don't believe anything we currently have is 100% "right" due to bias and self intrest), which is one of the reasons I really hate religious debates. Atheists are just as much to blame for arrogance as any zealous Christian, Muslim, Jew, or anything else for that matter. Religion (or lack of it) is a part of your personal definition, and telling someone is "wholesomely wrong" is attempting to change that definition, change their identity. :p |
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Apophenia? What Singer are you talking about? Peter Singer? I idolize him... but I do not think he has said anything insightful (as a philosopher about the existence of God.) He is an insightful ethicist though. |
I do believe in God, but I'm not Christian; I'm Muslim. I don't really shove my religion down people's throats. I just believe in what I want.
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I am not an Atheist, as it is illogical. As well as blind faith.
This is what I believe: The person who believes in God but is skeptical and understands the possibility of God not existing and existing will be ultimately rewarded in the end if there is a God, while he looses nothing if God does not exist. <- Me The person who believes in God without a doubt and refuses to listen to the possibility of God not existing will be ultimately rewarded in the end as well. But they will loose everything (as in, the basis for their mentality) if God does not exist. The person who doesn't believe in God and doubts and refuses to listen to the possibility of God existing will not be ultimately rewarded in the end. But, they will loos nothing if God does not exist. There is an actual term for this, and it is technically Agnostic, but there is another name for it.. |
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In my experience, Atheists tend to just poke fun and harass people who actually have religious beliefs. Very rarely do I ever find one that actually tries to have a friendly argument with someone over the existence of God, and almost always it is the Atheist who makes the arguments turn sour.
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Perhaps what The Cynic is trying to say is, that having confidence in a god and having certainty of where you came from and where you're going after death, is to miss out on the opportunity to revel in possibility. |
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I'm still not understanding how one's belief in no higher spirituality makes one any more free than the theist. Do you feel any more free? Do you feel like you've ascertained any kind of higher knowledge or thought? Or do you feel nothing, which drives you to try to prove to yourself that there is no God by arguing with others who do believe?
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Sorry for making such a serious point on a usually lighthearted forum, I just like to make myself clear. |
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In the sense that I'm skeptical about the existence of deities, I suppose. I believe in evolution and the Big Bang Theory. So, in short, yes.
(You have no idea how much I wanted to go on longer for this. xDD) |
Nah, I can't say that I'm an atheist. I'm far from it, since I'm Roman Catholic (meaning I believe in the Pope; deal with it if you don't).
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If I ever count myself as an atheist that severely reduces my chances of getting with any girl.
With that in mind, I don't think I'll be chasing atheism, thank you very much. |
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[QUOTE=mOOG;5387692You say "impossible"... Objectivity, espcially when combined with irrationality is a powerful influence. How many people do you think would, realistically, even with so much proof in a specific god, would desert what they have been taught and held to as truth for so much time? Not to make this a big fat hairy deal, but think about it. All of you.[/QUOTE]
The situation I had described was an idealised one wherein there was conclusive proof of God's existence revealed to everyone. I know there are people who would choose not to abandon the tenets of their faith - see Shouty McCapsLock below me - but it was a completely hypothetical statement. Really, people are taking the tiniest little piece of information from what I was saying and blowing it well out of proportion. Quote:
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1. She thinks you have lower morals and therefore might do something bad. 2. She thinks you will push her faith unto you. 3. She wants to raise her children religiously, and you being athiest would cause tension. 4. She doesn't want to date someone of another religion. hick And more |
Personally, I don't have any religion. Living in Ireland and hearing about what all the priests did to those children, as well as all the brainwashing in Primary Schools makes me never want to be involved in Catholicism. Also, everyone here hypocrites. They all go and have their first communion, and get confirmed just to make money, as far I tell, as they never go to mass! That said, there are loads of people who do good because the influence of their religion, and the chaplain in my school is just in a state of complete serenity 24/7, which I'm sure makes a lot of people very envious(!)
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I don't really ever go to church, and I don't really beleive in god so i guess i'm an atheist. but i don't think being one would lower your chance of being with a girl, but it really depends on the girl.
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Um, I'm an athiest...I don't really know what else to say other than that.
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The below is just my opinion; I mean no offense to anyone else or to their values.
I wouldn't say I'm an atheist. Over the past year I've come to the conclusion that religion is merely traditions and values people follow to understand the world and how it works, and I just think I don't need to believe in something or live my life a certain way to understand the world. But I'm also not going to say that none of the former is true/false/impossible since I just can't know for sure. I just choose not to bother myself with religious affairs. |
Uh, I guess a general Christian, Myownism.
Oh, yeah and keep up the immature passing shots, people, makes me proud to consider myself a human being... >.< Noone can just say "I'm Catholic/Agnostic/Atheist/Whatever." |
I'm not an atheist, although I was pretty much one in 11th and 12th grade.
It wasn't me, though, and I became kind of a jerk about it. I told one girl in band class that she was living a lie because she was a Christian. lol. She was being annoying to me, though. She always made a big deal about it and always had to tell me that "Jesus loves me." everyday. Still what I said was uncalled for. Still I don't go to church, and I have my own beliefs. I never want to be seen as one of those Christians that hates on the LGBT community, because really I do not believe that they are right at all... Plus when they do that it just shows me what kind of people they are, to find a few random verses in an ancient book to hate on people. |
I've practiced Buddhism for the past four years or so now, and it's gotten me through alot, including a heroin addiction. And reason being is it is a religion not about traditions or faith, but about training ones mind and living a moral life. Most Eastern religions follow a similar vein and make waaaay more sense to me than Western ones, especially what many people have turned Western religion into, especially Christianity. It's sad to see so many people take a religion that was once beautiful and turn it into some hate-fest filled with nonsensical codes of conduct. And no I'm not trying to say Christianity is nonsensical, but the way a mass majority of people interpret it is. Or maybe they just use it as an excuse, I'm not really sure.
But anyway, in Eastern thought, Buddhism especially, it's about taking the teachings and trying them out for ones self to find the validity in them. That's what really turned me onto the whole thing. |
I'm atheist yes. I wasn't always though. Years ago I believed that there was some kinda of God, and slowly I stopped believing, because nothing ever went well for me, even though I asked for help. I just couldn't believe anymore. And I always listed myself as agnostic, because I had no clue what to believe.
About two years ago, I finally listed myself as Atheist, because I truly don't believe in anything and I really don't want to tbh. |
Where does "I believe in god, but don't go to church" person fit in the whole... religious catagory?
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Poor Shouty McCapsLock... |
Oh wow... that's a lot of arguments!
well, I"m not aetheist. I'm Chrisitian. But, i'm not gonna go around knocking people over the head with the Bible just 'cause they dont' share my beliefs. |
I probably should've thrown this in my intro......
Yes, yes i'm athiest. |
I am a Christian. I have been nearly my entire life. As are my parents, who sent me to religious private schools since I was a kid (Christian schools are a BIG thing in my denomination). I still follow the faith I grew up and attend church quite regularly, as well as pray and read the Bible.
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Yes, I am an Atheist.
I don't personally care about religion, I just choose to ignore it. |
Im an atheist. I dont believe in any God or higher being, ive never been to church and there are a lot of aspects of organised religion that i dont agree with, but wont go into that here.
Of course i respect other peoples right to a religion, just provided that they in turn respect others right not to have one. |
Well, I think I'd personally consider myself an atheist, in the tense that I don't follow any sort of religious dogma.
However, I do hold a belief that there may be some sort of external force that could have ignited the spark that is life: I mean, there are so many things and creatures that just cam BAM! right the heck outta nowhere, so much so that I doubt it was just happenstance and straight-up natural evolution. Sometimes I wonder if we're not just a science experiment of some alien race. If one thinks about it, it could be feasible... For example, whenever we govern an ecosystem of small creatures of sourts, say an antfarm, the creatures are barely sentient enough to even know that we humans are even there. Who is to say that we are fully aware of what is governing us? How do we know there isn't some strange alien presence watching over us? This, for all intents and purposes, could BE a god or deity of sourts. People can interpret it whatever way they wish, and I rightfully respect their opinion. My problem with religion, though, is that some people use it to control the lives of other people. For example, there are still some who discriminate against homosexuals and other 'deviants' simply because 'God' forbids it. How are we to know what 'God' forbids and permits? Do we present rules for the ants in our antfarm, or do we just watch them in wonderment for what they are, fascinated at their society and function? Ahh, enough of my blathering; I felt it necessary to reflect upon my own beliefs and such, for this post was intended to incite thought in its readers, not argument. ^^;; |
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I was baptised a Christian.
However I don't get much of it. I have my own choice and I don't believe in God or anything. But that's just what I think. |
i am not an athesist, i believe in god,satan and jesus i believe in it all im a christian really
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