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Luck November 24th, 2009 5:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Cobalt (Post 5347924)
Cue Luck in 3... 2... 1...

lolno.

I won't repeat myself yet another time when no good will come of it.

txteclipse November 24th, 2009 5:03 PM

Protestant Christian here. I affiliate most with Assemblies of God and Baptist, but I consider my philosophies specifically mine. I don't accept things without being sure they make sense to me personally, and I'm comfortable disagreeing with certain beliefs those groups have. I think that's a healthy attitude.

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Originally Posted by Luck
I won't repeat myself yet another time when no good will come of it.

Also a healthy attitude. And dang you for stealing first-of-page.

Vigilante November 24th, 2009 5:40 PM

Honestly, I don't know what to believe in. I can't find the flaws every where. I would like to believe that there might be some magical man in the sky, it just ins't supported by evidence. Neither is any the science theories really.

So, I guess you could say that I am an Athiest.

It is not that I don't believe in him, it is just that I need proof. I can't touch him, smell him, hear him, taste him, see him, or anything else. So, yeah.

machinegun777 November 26th, 2009 7:40 AM

No, I'm not an atheist. I believe in God, and that Jesus died on the cross for us.

Blue Nocturne November 26th, 2009 8:49 AM

I am an atheist. I personally find religion absurd, irrational and obsolete. Its something about a being about an all-powerful being that sees all, created all and has power over all that doesn't make sense to me. I also find religion to hypocritical, vile and very logically flawed. Im sorry to offend anyone, its just my opinion.

Ineffable~ November 26th, 2009 8:54 AM

I am a semi-igtheistic, agnostic, panprotoexperientialistic, henotheistic, henophysitistic, pantheistic, skeptically holistic protestant Lutheran, if it means anything to you. ;3

Blaniel November 26th, 2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Superficial Mycosis (Post 5335759)
I am an athiest, but I also follow a religion.

Umm... then ur not really atheist.........Ur Agnostic....
Meaning you dont believe in any particular religion...

Agent Cobalt November 26th, 2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaniel (Post 5352438)
Umm... then ur not really atheist.........Ur Agnostic....
Meaning you dont believe in any particular religion...

No, he's an atheist because he doesn't believe in a deity, but still of a religion. Buddhists have a religion but are atheist. It's a religion without a god. It's not impossible. <=/

Corvus of the Black Night November 26th, 2009 12:20 PM

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU------dge.

Nope, but I can understand why people are. :3

Ineffable~ November 26th, 2009 4:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaniel (Post 5352438)
Umm... then ur not really atheist.........Ur Agnostic....
Meaning you dont believe in any particular religion...

Wait what? She's religious, yet she doesn't believe in any religion? 8S
Agnosticism (not necessarily religious, by the way) is actually the belief that certain questions cannot be answered with certainty. I'm a religiously agnostic theist. Id est, I am agnostic and religious at the same time. Not impossible. D:

She is a nontheist.

lx_theo November 26th, 2009 5:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Decapitated Goat (Post 5353104)

Wait what? She's religious, yet she doesn't believe in any religion? 8S
Agnosticism (not necessarily religious, by the way) is actually the belief that certain questions cannot be answered with certainty. I'm a religiously agnostic theist. Id est, I am agnostic and religious at the same time. Not impossible. D:

She is a nontheist.

Just pointing out, its not nontheist, its atheist

Sneg November 26th, 2009 6:19 PM

I don't know.

It's better to believe than to not believe, this is because the believer gets all in the end if God exists, but if you don't really care and God ends up not existing, you loose nothing.

Ineffable~ November 26th, 2009 7:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lx_theo (Post 5353307)
Just pointing out, its not nontheist, its atheist

All atheists are nontheists. :/
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Originally Posted by Sneg (Post 5353415)
I don't know.

It's better to believe than to not believe, this is because the believer gets all in the end if God exists, but if you don't really care and God ends up not existing, you loose nothing.

lol Pascal's gambit. :P

Åzurε November 26th, 2009 8:09 PM

-__-"" Yes, we've already figured that out. And I've been thinking about that. And it still holds a relevant point. But I won't get into that now.

Goat, when I looked up "semi-igtheistic" on Google, this topic was the top result. =P

Why do people think that others generally adopt religion on the basis of our parents? Many faithful people I know come from atheistic families, or turned from it early on because they "realized it was stupid", and then returned.

It's just too far against the odds for everything to be orderless. I've seen far too many... uncanny things happen to too many people too many times to think existence is entirely unstructured and without an overseer.

Agent Cobalt November 26th, 2009 8:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mOOG (Post 5353887)
Why do people think that others generally adopt religion on the basis of our parents?

Because it's an easy way for non-believers to rationalize the majority of people being believers. If everyone but the minority of enlightened atheists is a brainwashed zombie then they're almost of a higher intellectual standing. You see yourself from a few of the posts here the words used to describe faith- absurd, irrational, obsolete, hypocritical, vile, very logically flawed, fairy tales, et al.

I know the child indoctrination point certainly doesn't apply to me.

lx_theo November 26th, 2009 9:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Decapitated Goat (Post 5353793)
All atheists are nontheists. :/

No, I meant the term for the opposite of a theist (believes in God) is called an atheists, not nontheist.

Luck November 26th, 2009 9:19 PM

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Why do people think that others generally adopt religion on the basis of our parents?
Because no religion wouldn't last long at all if a younger audience wasn't targeted. Infants are not only more gullible, but they also believe that their parents are near infallible. Why do children get baptised much more than adults? I honestly doubt 6 and 10 year olds are capable of such philosophical thinking on that big of a scale.

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It's just too far against the odds for everything to be orderless. I've seen far too many... uncanny things happen to too many people too many times to think existence is entirely unstructured and without an overseer.
Other people see things differently. Complexity≠Creation, or at least to me.

Ineffable~ November 26th, 2009 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mOOG (Post 5353887)
Goat, when I looked up "semi-igtheistic" on Google, this topic was the top result. =P
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Why do people think that others generally adopt religion on the basis of our parents? Many faithful people I know come from atheistic families, or turned from it early on because they "realized it was stupid", and then returned.

It's just too far against the odds for everything to be orderless. I've seen far too many... uncanny things happen to too many people too many times to think existence is entirely unstructured and without an overseer.

Where did you see that? :S I got my own post when I searched.
:3

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Originally Posted by lx_theo (Post 5354025)
No, I meant the term for the opposite of a theist (believes in God) is called an atheists, not nontheist.

I can't tell if you don't know the word "nontheist" and are implying I'm not familiar with the term "atheist", or if you are saying something separate completely, so I'll just say that, within my knowledge, nontheism is an ideology that includes atheism.
:3 So the term is not incorrect.

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Originally Posted by Luck (Post 5354034)
Other people see things differently. Complexity≠Creation, or at least to me.

Ever heard of pantheism? :P

s0nido November 26th, 2009 9:47 PM

I'm a firm Muslim, and nothing can shake my faith. I was a Muslim since birth, and I will always be one, no matter what. There is no faith alternative to Islam that I believe is 100% true.

GymLeaderMisty November 26th, 2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassino (Post 5337030)
I believe what I want; science bores me.
To that end I am a magickal Shinto apatheist.

You said it yourself best in this post:

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a god? if there is one it's nothing to do with me
a faith? only in myself
a religion? i don't need, want or have one
a destiny? life is the present, memories are the past, mysteries are the future
a reason? a star explodes, the pieces form planets and new stars, which by chance could grow life, and our star (the sun) will die someday...
and me? i'm just an entity of carbon based life, a mere fruit of nature
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=74338&page=2

I made another thread based on that post more than 3 years ago...

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?p=1605590

(I got banned on that forum for talking about Paul Ehrlich and the Mexico City Policy a year ago)

Nyu~♥! November 27th, 2009 4:49 PM

oooh no. I believe in the Holy Spirit, Jesus, and God.
Really, I don't really think it's very good to be atheist. When you are in grave danger, who can you talk to that will solve your roblems? Anyway, don't think I hate atheists - I don't. I'm Christian, so being racist, antisemitic or whatever, is totally wrong. Just an opinion. I believe that everyone one is equal whether they believe in God or not.

- In the name of the Father, in the name of the Son, and in the Holy Spirit, Amen! :< -

Katria November 28th, 2009 5:27 AM

I'm a Protestant but I have friends from all walks of religion. I believe in God and that we'll Him when we die.

Skreamish November 30th, 2009 2:40 PM

Yes, but I am not against any one who believes in any sort of god or higher power or some sort. Believe whatever you feel is right.

ANARCHit3cht November 30th, 2009 7:32 PM

Yes. But it isn't that I don't believe in god it is just that I need proof that he exists. I can't smell him, can I? No? Well, how do I know he exists? I can smell the person next to me, I can see them, I can hear them, I could feel them, and heck, I could even taste them if I really wanted to do. But can I do anything like that to this God?

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When you are in grave danger, who can you talk to that will solve your roblems?
When you are in grave danger and someone busts down the door and shoots the murderer in the face who is it? Definitely not god, it is usually the police.

Cherrim November 30th, 2009 9:51 PM

I'm not sure what I am aside from a dedicated Lightningist. I was raised Catholic but the religion has never struck a chord with me and I really don't believe in it. I suppose if I had to categorize my beliefs, I'd be an atheist but apathy is probably a better fit.

There are so many religions and picking the right one just kind of seems hit-and-miss to me. The idea that I could dedicate my life to following some sort of faith only for it to be the "wrong" one doesn't really appeal to me so I'd rather just follow none of it and do my own thing instead of fretting over religion. If I die and it turns out one religion was right, oops. I'll worry about that then. Furthermore, I don't mind if any of my friends are overly religious or not, so long as they don't force their beliefs or lack thereof on me.

So for me, it's more: I can't prove that a God exists, nor can I prove a God doesn't exist, so I'm just gonna ignore the whole thing or decalre myself as God because I don't really care.


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