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-Smash November 27th, 2009 3:33 PM

Looks like it might be a good idea to check the place out, and not limit myself to the tools section this time.


But why would it matter to me? My native language is spanish, and I can equally understand english like if it also was. : P

BrokenRoses November 27th, 2009 11:07 PM

OK ppl STOP reposting this same question!
EVERYONE IS EQUAL! No mater what age, color or race, everyone can hack just as good as the other if they try. Plus my hacks are super good and im British so I dont know where I land in this topic lol. But suriously is u have a question like this topic, read the others already posted and stop spaming the same question. Haha 3Inferations for you lol

Ninja Caterpie November 27th, 2009 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BrokenRoses (Post 5356645)
OK ppl STOP reposting this same question!
EVERYONE IS EQUAL! No mater what age, color or race, everyone can hack just as good as the other if they try. Plus my hacks are super good and im British so I dont know where I land in this topic lol. But suriously is u have a question like this topic, read the others already posted and stop spaming the same question. Haha 3Inferations for you lol

what is this i don't even.

Luck November 27th, 2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5356661)
what is this i don't even.

Well, it works like this. Even though everyone is equal, some are more equal than others. I think BrokenRoses is leading us to a quote from Animal Farm, a very good movie if I say so myself =P


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OK ppl STOP reposting this same question!
EVERYONE IS EQUAL! No mater what age, color or race, everyone can hack just as good as the other if they try. Plus my hacks are super good and im British so I dont know where I land in this topic lol. But suriously is u have a question like this topic
Ego much?
Quote:

read the others already posted and stop spaming the same question. Haha 3Inferations for you lol
You are basically doing the same thing by regurgitating what everyone else said. Everyone is equal, regardless of features, yadda, yadda, yadda.

.Seth November 27th, 2009 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck (Post 5356672)

Well, it works like this. Even though everyone is equal, some are more equal than others.

How can you be more equal than equal? o.o
I really don't understand; I'm sorry.

Luck November 27th, 2009 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by .Seth (Post 5356674)


How can you be more equal than equal? o.o
I really don't understand; I'm sorry.

That was the whole point of what I said.
Anyone who is more than something is clearly unequal, and that was the point of Animal Farm. To show the flaws in communism and the like.
Alright BrokenRoses, I have a question. Are you saying that one of the Kalahari Bushmen have the exact same chance of being a successful hacker as a Ivy League Professor?

BrokenRoses November 28th, 2009 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Luck (Post 5356676)

That was the whole point of what I said.
Anyone who is more than something is clearly unequal, and that was the point of Animal Farm. To show the flaws in communism and the like.
Alright BrokenRoses, I have a question. Are you saying that one of the Kalahari Bushmen have the exact same chance of being a successful hacker as a Ivy League Professor?

If they care then yes they do. I was a noob and now i know everything so it doesnt mean that anyone else cant learn as well. Understand what Im saying.

Ray Maverick November 29th, 2009 10:44 AM

I noticed that Spanish hackers are making hacks with pretty good appearance, while English hackers are making good hacks - scripting wise.
Maybe Spanish/ Italian hackers are the best artists, but we can't say they are BETTER than English hackers.

~Teh Panda~ November 29th, 2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BrokenRoses (Post 5356733)
If they care then yes they do. I was a noob and now i know everything so it doesnt mean that anyone else cant learn as well. Understand what Im saying.

Umm, you still are a noob if you talk like that... you don't even know CLOSE to everything...

Anyways... Spanish hacks are mainly graphical. They mainly use whack a hck which basically is all thr gfx skills you need. While generally english peoplr use pc to hack and gain different skills from the info here.

TAKUORO November 29th, 2009 8:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Clasico (Post 5346797)
Well, I am Spanish and I can say you that I HATE Spanish hackers (well, not ALL the Spanish hackers). Why? Well, they create a lot of fantastic hacks... (irony) and if you can't create a hacker as good as their, you cannot do any hack.
PS: That occurs me... I published a hack in Spanish in a Spanish webside (it was a parody of Pokemon Yellow, that had all text changed to be humoristic. ONLY I edited the texts...) and they said that it was the WORST hack ever. Ok, it wasn't marvelous, but... The WORST?? And what were their reasons?
...
Because I didn't edit any map. Oh, and also said me that the hacks of 1st and 2nd generation are worst than the hacks of 3rd generation. That's the reason that I hack 1st and 2nd generation games (yes).
Well, the panorama is very different. I think, the English hackers give more importance to the history (Pokemon BROWN), and the Spanish hackers give more importance to the "graffics" (Pokemon SHINY GOLD).

none of us said you that, just one or two that sayed that you should change other thing, the page is going in a lot of trouble because the forum translated, some hackers are very angry at this and they get mad at everything.
2 of the really say that the hack was bad, but as I said before, they're mad because of the forum translation

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5348918)
The reason everyone likes Spanish hackers is the graphics. Graphix this, graphix that. Most of the Spanish hackers care way too much about graphics.

Unfortunaly, that´s true, well some hackers prefer graphics, but the 90% looks for scripts,mapping and graphics in that order.
Rarely, the other 10% are the ones that are mad
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Now, about the tread...

No, A hack depends on the hacker ability and creative ability, not he's nationalite.
and btw, shiny gold isn't spanish -.-

And another thing, the english hacking gets more people, the spanish get new people, but they almost always quit after a month or two, and the most that stays, they just learn to insert tiles and mappping because they say that is the easiest part

And for million time, please excuse my english

Satoshi Ookami November 30th, 2009 8:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TAKUORO (Post 5362422)

and btw, shiny gold isn't spanish -.-

I think those said it 'cause Zel is from Argentina where is Spanish native language.

Pokepal17 November 30th, 2009 1:15 PM

Guys, this is sterotyping people because their nationality has no impact on the way they hack. You say Spanish hackers focus on graphics. Well, so do English hackers and Italian hackers and French hackers, so we're practically all the same. Also, Spanish hacks may have more distinct and pleasing grpahics because they get them from WAH, which is a spanish forum.

Alistair November 30th, 2009 5:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5348918)
The reason everyone likes Spanish hackers is the graphics. Graphix this, graphix that. Most of the Spanish hackers care way too much about graphics.

I agree with this, but not fully. As I have only been to Wack-a-Hack, I cannot fully pass judgment on the situation.

It seems that this is what they care about most, at WaH. I would disagree on many counts of graphics usage, being a graphics artist myself, but that is up to the eyes of the viewer, I suppose. Tangent aside, the Spanish demos I have played always felt a little... empty. Sure, there was plenty of scenery, but there seemed to be no life in the hacks. While I do not speak Spanish, I can roughly figure out what the text is (and use Babelfish, haha), and it usually only seems like filler. In addition, because the people at WaH seem to care about aesthetics more than anything else, most of the maps were very broken. Some were nearly unplayable.

Besides, English hacks were getting to that point until some people stepped in and decided to say that there needs to be a balance of aesthetics and gameplay, and writing is still empty on our end of the rope, too.

But really, it's not a case of nationality or the hacker. It's really a case of the community. Hackers generally follow what are considered to be norms in each community, and some execute them better than others.

But then again, everyone has different opinions, so it's really up to the player to decide what is better.

--End Rant

DemonParia December 2nd, 2009 3:47 AM

A person that speaks a different language has no better aptitude at ROM Hacking than someone who speaks yet another language.

It is all about learning how to hack, making a QUALITY hack, and releasing it upon the world so it can eat people.

It doesn't matter what language it is in, it's the MAD SKILLZ required to make it that causes the hack to be liked.

chrunch December 3rd, 2009 1:35 AM

Spanish hacks do always seem to have better graphics...
But in my opinion, language doesn't matter, time and effort do.

Chimchar 9 December 3rd, 2009 10:25 AM

You know what? We're about the same. But at the moment I can say that Dante is Italian, and Wesley is Brazilian. I think these two hackers have made a lot of progress. So watch out! Because their might be a few more of these great Italian & Brazilian hackers that we haven't even heard about. And yet they might become the two best hacking countries.

Xaddion December 4th, 2009 3:27 PM

There are more english ROM users and english translations are used more, so english translations are inherently more important regardless of quality.

Don't say it doesn't matter to you. It does. If there is a Spanish/Italian/French Hack with extremely good graphics, the first thing you would think is "This hack had awesome graphics. It should be translated in English for me."

I Laugh at your Misfortune! December 4th, 2009 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterge77 (Post 5341363)
No, English hacks are the best, GO AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!

lol irony :P

Anyway, I have to say that well, although I'm not a major player of hacks, the best ones I've played have been made by Spanish-speaking hackers. I'm not saying that nationality affects your skill or that people who speak spanish are better than anyone else. I'm just saying that the best hack I've played have been made by Spanish speakers. Make of that what you will.

.Seth December 4th, 2009 3:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheryl Cole ♥ (Post 5369600)
You know what? We're about the same. But at the moment I can say that Dante is Italian, and Wesley is Brazilian. I think these two hackers have made a lot of progress. So watch out! Because their might be a few more of these great Italian & Brazilian hackers that we haven't even heard about. And yet they might become the two best hacking countries.

If you'll notice, most real hackers (the ones who steal credit card numbers, etc) are not from English-speaking countries. I'm not saying WesleyFG or Dante are credit card stealers, I'm just saying that your point is rather flawed.

If only two people are the best ROM Hackers of their country, does that mean they represent their country as a whole? Of course not. ROM Hacking is a leisure, not a sport, although, that's almost what it's turning out to be, with elitist levels on the rise and more complete n00bs. It's a whoever-can-make-the-best-is-win-and-everyone-else-is-fail world almost.

It's sickening, really.

Chimchar 9 December 6th, 2009 4:54 AM

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Originally Posted by .Seth (Post 5372254)


If you'll notice, most real hackers (the ones who steal credit card numbers, etc) are not from English-speaking countries. I'm not saying WesleyFG or Dante are credit card stealers, I'm just saying that your point is rather flawed.

If only two people are the best ROM Hackers of their country, does that mean they represent their country as a whole? Of course not. ROM Hacking is a leisure, not a sport, although, that's almost what it's turning out to be, with elitist levels on the rise and more complete n00bs. It's a whoever-can-make-the-best-is-win-and-everyone-else-is-fail world almost.

It's sickening, really.

I guess that makes sence.

pokemonhackers January 3rd, 2010 9:05 PM

Well i think so but if you do not know spanish then it is difficult using them thats why i like english better.But it is just me.

kingsven January 4th, 2010 3:36 AM

i also saw many cool looking spanish hacks but yeah tthey are spanish xD so i cant read it :p

Sora's Nobody January 11th, 2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterge77 (Post 5341363)
No, Engish hacks are the best, GO AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!

You know america isnt the only english speeking country and there are other english speeking countrys who hack

Co500 January 11th, 2010 11:08 AM

I agree with sora on that one as the language "english" comes from "england" because im and english hacker from england :)

Zeturic January 11th, 2010 1:59 PM

There are great hacks in both languages. There are down-right awful hacks in both languages. Neither is inherently, or even on average, better than the other.

It all comes down to the fact that there are both good hackers and bad hackers. This does not change even when culture and language changes.

Also, to the people complaining about not being able to read Spanish: this doesn't make the hack bad. Some games are fun without having any clue what they're talking about, but if it bothers you, then take the obvious route. Learn Spanish! (That's what Dora the Explorer is for.)


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