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New Pokemon or Forme Confirmed!
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Earlier today PokeBeach posted this http://pokebeach.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/first-hint.jpg Pokebeach: A 13th movie product advertisement for Poke Ball projectors may contain hints for new Pokemon. The ad, which displays Pokemon that are known to be in The Ruler of Illusion: Z such as Celebi, Entei, Suicune, and Raikou, purposefully hides two of the Poke Ball Pokemon with question marks. The text above each question marks says "A Pokemon that will be in the movie." When discussing the advertisement last night, we thought the question mark Pokemon may be Lugia and Ho-Oh since they were shown in the first teaser trailer for the 13th movie and are in Master Balls like Celebi (with Ho-Oh's creations in Ultra Balls, since they are of lesser status). However, it is not often that these types of products purposefully hide known Pokemon. In the past, these question marks turned out to be Pokemon like Shaymin Sky Forme, Giratina Origin Forme, and Spiky Ear Pichu, though on rare occasions they were in fact Pokemon that were already known. So, we can't really tell either way what the question marks mean until the products are released. While the Pokemon may turn out to be just Lugia and Ho-Oh, as posted a few days ago, the "master of illusion" ("Z") may be a new Pokemon or Pokemon Forme that could be revealed in CoroCoro magazine this month (or within the next few months). We have run out of known Legendary Pokemon to use in movies, so it's probably time to reveal a new Pokemon or Pokemon forme anyway! And was later updated with this http://pokebeach.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/second-hint.jpg In lieu of the previous news story posted here, a second 13th movie advertisement specifically mentions that new Pokemon will be in The Master of Illusion: Z. The advertisement, which is for a "Pokemon Seal Battle Piece Collection DP 2010 set," lists the names of Pokemon that will be released in sets of stickers ("seals"). The ad lists the names of the Pokemon to be included in each sticker set, and at the end of each bullet point, it says, "plus a newly-created Pokemon that's introduced in the movie." Additionally, under Piplup's image above the list, the advertisement states, "The Pokemon (plural) introduced in 2010's Master of Illusion: Z are in the (sticker) lineup." This of course implies that more than one new Pokemon (or Pokemon Forme) will be shown for the first time in the movie! It is important to note that Giratina's Origin Forme and Shaymin's Sky Forme were originally codenamed "new Pokemon" in advertisements, meaning it's possible that these Pokemon could be new Formes as opposed to brand new Pokemon. Thanks go to Frugrow for the image and Bangiras for translating! All of the evidence now points to there being new Pokemon in the movie!
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Nice find. It would be strange for them to release a new forme unless they plan on releasing an updated Pokemon Crystal version.
But perhaps they're gearing up for Gen5? |
This is great ^.^ We're getting Gen. 5! Hahah, I'm sooo happy now!
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Woohoo finally. It's about time we started seeing hints and confirmation of new pokemon/formes.
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I have a feeling its a dark version of Celebi
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Finally Pokemon is giving me a reason to be excited again. Lol, Im kind of surviving on PoP Culture & Pokemon...
Personally I think it will be alternate formes such as Celebi Z and maybe a PikaPal of the 5th generation... |
well I edited my post cause I thought it was a dumb theory Xb but take a look at pokemon-movies.jp and use google translate. im investigating now lol
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Hmm. I thought it a possibility that Celebi would get a new Form. This whole deal reminds me of Marril and Elekid from when Johto was being introduced. Excitement!
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I WANT A SQUID POKEMON. /capsrape
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I'm certain they are not going to revelal a 5th gen legendary in this film so its either something similar to how Shaymin (Sky Forme) and Giratina (Origin Forme) were revealed being a new forme or like Snubull and Marill being regular new pokemon making initial 5th Gen debut. |
god help us all if its a Celebi form :(
enough forms already, i wanna see new pokemon, not the same one with wings or tentacles |
A Celebi forme with Grass/Dark typing would be a pleasant surprise if you ask me...
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it would be cool yeah, but to be representing the 5th gen with an older pokemon on roids isn't
they should be sneak peaking the starters :) i dont know if this was implyed in the post but since the dogs are in ultra balls and are legendary, the pokemon in masterballs could be beyond legendary and could be similar to arceus? |
-crosses fingers- DarkCelebiDarkCelebiDarkCelebi >.< |
[jq]i dont know if this was implyed in the post but since the dogs are in ultra balls and are legendary, the pokemon in masterballs could be beyond legendary and could be similar to arceus?[/jq]
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Huh. I'm not entirely sure how the line 映画登場ポケモン on the seals poster translates as "a newly-created Pokemon that's introduced in the movie." I read it as "Pokemon appearing in the movie." The only reference to anything new that I can see only refers to new goods/products for the newest movie.
I suppose the line 劇場版最新作登場ポケモン in the first poster could mean that, but it looks more like "Pokemon appearing in the latest movie" to me. I'm not an expert, but I wouldn't get my hopes up yet. |
Remember, I was only quoting Pokebeach... but I have a gut feeling that its going to be Lugia and Ho oh in someway. That trailer has to have meant something, and remember, Heatran had one of those when he was really minor aswell as Regigigas...
Update from PokeBeach: Fixed some of the translations and clarified some of the information. Note that there will most likely not be five new Pokemon, but probably two or so represented in multiple sticker sets. |
Well, well, well! Most interesting!
A new forme or two, eh? This shall be exciting! They're probably the legendary birds, you know, but still, if they aren't, this is exciting news. ^_^ xX |
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Nice find, I can't wait for more information about the Pokemon formes.
The thing is, I'm starting to think that they'll most likely be Johto Pokemon, to advertise Heart Gold and Soul Silver in Japan and other countries. The only problem is that, if the Pokemon formes gets released after the games are released in Japan, then the formes are most likely going to be obtained through Mystery Gift in Japan, which probably means it'll get released as a Mystery gift in USA and Europe too. This means events. This is a good theory and a great way to speculate and discuss, so I'll stick this for now. |
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It's quite obvious that there will be no new forms, HG/SS proves that the 4th generation is ending, also if it were a new form, it would be of a new Pokemon or a Deoxys Special forme, but Deoxys isn't in this film for all we know, so it is obviously a new Pokemon or two, or maybe even 3 new Pokemon if were lucky, after all, movie 8 and 9 each introduced 4 new Pokemon (Movie 8: Lucario, Bonsly, Mime Jr., Weavile, Movie 9: Manaphy, Buizel, Chatot, Mantyke), making a total of 8 new Pokemon, which are now old Pokemon since generation 4 is rolling the red carpet back in and the red carpet for generation 5 is just about to be rolled out.... Quote:
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If this isn't going to be a Dark!Celebi, I'm going to be very disappointed after reading this post. XD Dark/Grass would be an awesome combo. 8D
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Lol.Seeing as something about the movie said Ash meets a lookalike, maybe we can capture an Ash-like pokemon!!!That'd be cool, i'd just make him faint over, and over, and over, and over again
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all i need to say is YYYAAHHHHOOOOOO!!!! YYYAYYYY YEAAHHHH right thats over i can't wait to see this 5 generation it's going to rock like all the others did ^.^
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If it is two new Pokemon I am guessing they would be none legendary Pokemon. We know the movie already as four legendary Pokemon in it, so six would be way over the top.
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I believe that both are new Pokémon. We are fed up with new forms, and 2010 is there, c'mon! New Pokémon should appear each 3-4 years (Munchlax is from 2004, so should have been two years ago).
But i believe that one of those is the "Z" Pokémon, a legendary IMO. And the other one a baby, like was with Togepi, Azurill and Munchlax, in their respective generations. |
Yeah, the first ones revealed are usually Baby Pokemon, new Evos, the Starters, and the version mascots.
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I know it will be the Dark verison of Luga from XD and dark Ho-oh...
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I wonder....possibly Lugia and Ho-oh will get new formes? As there are two released together, it suggests to me that these will be two Pokemon that will be equal in some way (e.g. Ho-oh and Lugia/ Groudon and Kyogre) I doubt it will be starters, as I'd expect them to be all released together, so as to not create an unbalanced feel.
Perhaps two fresh Eeveelutions? Maybe two version exclusives? We'll just have to see :D |
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Every new generation of Pokémon has a Baby-like among the first to be revealed. 2nd: Togepi (1997) 3rd: Azurill, Wailmer, Kecleon (2001) 4th: Munchlax (2004) |
Can the name of this thread be changed to;
New Pokemon or Forme Confirmed! please... |
sorry to say this, but that information is a little.... biased? ... it's not looking at every possible meaning of the sentence(s) :/ That does not confirm that something new is going to come out. The most I can say about that is that you can speculate that since the past two movies have had something "new" there is a good chance that they could have something new in there... but the fact is that 登場 is being translated to mean one thing only, when it does not only apply to overall new things... sure, there is a good change that it is, but nothing has been confirmed yet :(
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Perhaps it is a Shiny/alternate variation of a current Pokemon.
Such as the Notch Eared Pichu and Gyarados of alternate color. May also be the "Movie" event. Perhaps a Pokemon that can do something crazy strange like Transform, Roar of Time, or Spacial Rend. Spike Skull Magby... |
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I am pessimistic, but the furthest I would guess are the special Pichu(s)
Nothing's confirmed yet. All we can assume is that the two question marks are in the movie. |
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...I don't think I want to see something like that. XD; I really hope it is a new Pokemon but not a new forme (except the Dark Celebi, lol). If it is really a 5th Gen Pokemon, I would be really excited. :D |
I doubt it's a new forme, unless of course you consider these "dark" or "Z" Pokemon to be formes. If anything, it'll most likely be alterations of already known Pokemon JUST for the movie and not something that would appear in games. Otherwise, it would be quite strange to include new Formes in this movie and not even have a hint of them in the games (especially considering how lately, the games and movies have had a good amount of connectivity.)
Though, I really am hoping they are new Pokemon shown in the same fashion Donphan was in the first movie. Wouldn't be surprised if it was possibly one or two new Pokemon along with a different Forme also. Either way, I highly doubt it'll be a new legendary and I really hope it's not some Celebi Forme. >_< |
Well, it could be just another Shiny.
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Might be a egg pokemon like how togepi was revealed in the anime, nobody had a clue what it was until the johto series.
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definetly agreed here i put my votes on it prolly just being hooh and lugia |
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God help us all if it's Notched/Spiky-eared Pikachu. D: If it does turn out to be a new celebi form it makes me wonder if other Pokemon will be given new forms in Gen 5... I also think Ho-oh and Lugia are extremely plausible. |
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NO. NO. NO MORE EEVEELUTIONS. 7 IS ENOUGH! COME ON, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE. *Breathes Maniacaly* |
I have been checking every site constantly to find more info on this. Its driving me insane. Guess we just have to wait for Coro Coro, but I cant remember if they do things on movies in that magizine...
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I have a feeling that the new pokemon could be a servant of Arceus.
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No wonder I don't like Ho-oh. XD *shot* |
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Ugh, this article is so bibolar to me. It still has me excited to know what Coro Coro and Pokemn Sunday are going to reveal. And the thing about a mis translation is no surprise but it doesnt count out anything yet... Just learn to not be too optimistic when it comes to the Pokemon franchise. |
It's very likely that something like formes will be present, if not actual formes. Just look at the cloned Pokemon in the first movie: visibly identical except for new markings. The movies have a tendency to differentiate important Pokemon via markings or physical corruption. From what I've heard and read on some Japanese sites, Ho-Oh and Lugia may have dark formes of a kind. We're not too far off in thinking of a "dark" Celebi.
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it could be a 5th gen pokemon, like they did with the lucario movie. I would like to see dark celebi return from the 4th movie :D that would be bad ass
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I really don't want new evolutions of existing Pokemon. Just new Pokemon, like they did when they first introduced Lucario in the movie: Lucario & The Mystery of Mew.
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The only thing that convinces me that there will be a new pokemon still is the "Z" in the title of the movie. Its not like a Human has ever been the title of a Pokemon move...
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Pokebeach has a new article mentioning Pokemon Sunday's preview for next week's episode:
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Last year they covered the Red Gyarados in a preview, they covered a Magikarp too for crying out loud. It could be anything. They aren't hinting at anything. Yes it could be a 5th gen Pokémon, but it's equally as likely that it isn't. It could be them talking about the Celebi event in HGSS and Giovanni is behind that question mark. It could be the Lock Capsule. Heck it could be a new game like Ranger 3. We just can't tell. Plus, thanks to yaminokame for informing me, the showing is in the Game Arena segment and not anything to do with the movie which would be where a new Pokémon is shown |
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But, like I said before, it may well be that I'm wrong, you're wrong or we're both wrong. However, I still think that Pokemon Sunday won't say something is important and dissapoint by producing something minor.I think that there's a high possibility that a new game might be introduced, however, I'm still not cocksure about it but I'm sure that we'll learn what it really is by the 17th. I also recommend taking a look at this article, maybe you'll see why I said that they were hinting at a Generation 5 Pokemon because it certainly managed to convince me. |
Pokebeach is wrong. They're just speculating, there are no "hints".
From the Pokémon Sunday website thanks to yaminokame; 「ポケモンゲームアリーナ」では、ポケサンカンパニーが手に入れた重大ニュースを発表! 情報部・しょこたん部長から、驚きの情報が飛び出すぞ! "The important news that the Pokesun Company has received will be announced during the "Pokemon Game Arena!" Department. Chief Shokotan (Information Department) will give out surprising news!" Chances are good its just the 13th movie giveaway being revealed. A New Pokémon would be revealed on its own, not in any other area |
Sigh. I guess its a good thing not to be too optimistic so you wont be let down in situations like this but the timing is just so right right now. This will be the most interesting turn out regardless. (also, I cant remember what the lock capsule is for, or do we even know?)
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It's 2010! If I don't see a 5th generation Pokémon in the next weeks I'll start to think that it's the end. Though Pokémon is a worldwide franchise, which generates uncountable direct and indirect profits, though every new Nintendo console is made after Pokémon executive directors' approval, I will only be sure of a future when I see a picture of a new monster. I'm afraid, Serebii, I'm checking on your page every single day. Show us when it come, that's all I ask. |
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my birthday! I've been researching it (not very well) and even when I tried to find something on pokemon sunday and same nothing :( oh well that gives me 2 things to look forward too xD |
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I'd say with a high amount of certainty that there will be a 5th gen in Movie 13 However I'd also say with a high amount of certainty that this announcement will not reveal it. At the very most we'll get a sihlouette in CoroCoro but that is at a massive stretch. As I have been saying, it is more than likely a reveal of an event. Don't forget, we're not meant to know about the Celebi event. It's my fault we do but they just go on as if that didn't happen |
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I remember when Gonbe was released, first that silhouette in the 7th movie website, then CoroCoro revealed it. Okay then, if you say so, I'll believe it. Thanks again. |
imo dunsparce or delebird needs a new evo.
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Okay, look, whether or not we're getting a preiview of the 5th Generation, allow people to speculate and wonder, okay? Don't shoot down our ideas, please. I'm hoping for just one, one would do me in for Gen 5.
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Octillery is a octopus. There is no squid Pokemon. |
Gonna throw in my two cents here. I read recently that Nintendo announced (among other things like a 2010 release of the new Zelda Wii game) that they are in preparation for releasing the next hand held to succeed the DS. It makes sense that Gen. V news would be starting to kick off about now.
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http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=6422&a=2
I didn't say they were releasing the console this year. Just that they obviously have it in the works, which is just the right time for information on Gen. V to begin to appear. And, yes, the next Zelda installment for the Wii was mentioned before hand, however, this article claims to confirm what was disbelieved to actually be released before this year's end. |
Aww, looks like we will get nowhere with this for a few months. Coro Coro only leaked info on a new Ranger game and its obvious that Pokemon Sunday will do the same :(
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Preparation for releasing would be when they are Prepering to release the console. That would mean that they are wanting to release it soon, soon being anything from Q2 to Q4. It would be quite understandable that I would confused. And no where in that artical was the release date mentioned, well, not including that they don't want to reveal the release date. from what I've read they've only been discusing feature that the want to implement, so I estimate a 2011-2012 release date. Back on topic, Its a shame the only revealed a ranger game, though I was actually wanting one to be released. |
Considering the Recent announcement of Ranger 3, the question mark is most likely Ukalele Pichu, which we know of this morning, exists, so don't get your hopes up, also, it seems that Nintendo has been obbsessed with Pichu lately, they recently made Spiky Eared Pichu, ten years after the original Pichu was made, then they made Pikachu Colored Pichu (even though it looks like a regular shiny Pichu), now Ukalele Pichu, whats next, Giant Robot from Space Pichu? have they forgottten of Pichus evolution, the mascot of this very franchise, our very own Pikachu? Apparently so.....
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I really doubt the whole Ukalele Pichu thing. I mean, it is only the mascot of that specific game, as Plusle & Minun were for the previous game. I am relieved this update had nothing to do with the movie. There is still hope! ^_^
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Ukaele Pichu? Umm, anyone notice the possible reference there to the Surfing Pikachu?
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Coro coro did have a page on Movie 13 but it basically just showed us the things we know. Looks like we have to wait til next month to get more details. Im thinking the next issue might just give details on the Celebi Event, then maybe the next will be what we're waiting for. Just my opinon.
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(from the blog) 映画登場ポケモン極秘公開!! だれもがビックリするポケモンが映画に登場! top secret revealing of a Pokemon that will appear in the movie!! A Pokemon that anyone would be surprised at is making an appearance in the movie! The above text is too small to read if it's on the scan but the person who wrote the blog typed it out along with the text written there. I won't know until tomorrow when I buy my copy though :p ... |
Thanks Yaminokame, Im trying not to read into too much because I would certainly be surprised if any random pokemon like, Spiky Eared Pichu showed up. It could mean anything but its still exciting.
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Is the fast that there hasn't been a new series announced? Could that mean a new generation of games/ anime etc?? Also the Phantom Ruler Z film cold be the last in the D/P series and even preview a new one!
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I will laugh so flipping hard if one of those question marks is the Ukelele Pichu from pokemon ranger 3 XD
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I would cry, though I dont see it fitting in but also, with the appearance and importance of the Johto Trio in both, it could happen but I doubt it. I guess you also consider the fact that there was a Pokemon Ranger in the Manaphy movie... seriously, I would blow steam if that happened. Pichu Overkill is what that would be. It would also make Spiky Eared Pichu less special to me.
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Would be appropriate considering some things known about that third Pokemon Ranger game. When the first was out, that Manaphy Sea Crown movie was drifting around.
Johto Forme Deoxys looks doubtful. Thank Arceus. |
New PokeBeach Update... this one clearly states the difference between a new pokemon and an existing one, and the movie will feature both. Cant wait now.
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found this but not sure if its the new pokemon, it looks legit
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I suspect fanart. I wouldn't cry if they did turn out to be the starters though, the fire-type in particular looks very cool.
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I don't think they're starters either, due to the fact that there are two grass types.
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Wow. I really like that bird-evo-line. This better be real D:
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Yeah.
And Serene Grace, i think by the colours that the bull pokemon is water-type. But yeah, the peacock pokemon looks mint |
I have a theory which might in fact be true.
Firstly,let's take a look at the info we got about Pokemon A.They said that it would be a Pokemon which would surprise us.Which evolution line of Pokemon has the least appearances?Porygon.Yes,ever since that darned episode aired which sent about 650 children into hospitals,Porygon has never seen the light of the day except for a few cameos.Porygon2 never appeared in the show.But now,while the D/P/Pt main season isn't over,Porygon-Z would never appear in the anime. What do I make of this?The only Pokemon which would truly surprise us is a member of the Porygon family.Now,let's take a look at the other details: In the movie name,Ruler of Illusion Z,there is a Z.While this could obviously be a new GenV Pokemon,it can also be the Porygon-Z I'm talking about. Thirdly,the Porygon line is the only cyberworld Pokemon,which would lead to the fact that they can create illusions..But I don't suppose that they're the only Pokemon that can create such things.What I'm saying is that I might very well be wrong so don't quote me on this,as after all Porygon-Z is a Sinnoh Pokemon so it would have no reason to appear in a movie set in past Johto,unless they're also planning to show Porygon2 too and finally end the ban on this evolutionary line. |
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