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Serene Grace January 9th, 2010 2:24 AM

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Originally Posted by You Just Lost the Game (Post 5457448)
I wonder....possibly Lugia and Ho-oh will get new formes? As there are two released together, it suggests to me that these will be two Pokemon that will be equal in some way (e.g. Ho-oh and Lugia/ Groudon and Kyogre) I doubt it will be starters, as I'd expect them to be all released together, so as to not create an unbalanced feel.

Perhaps two fresh Eeveelutions? Maybe two version exclusives? We'll just have to see :D

I understand your reasoning about the Lugia/Ho-oH formes. However, I would think that it would be better just to release new legendaries, but then when has Nintendo been known for originality and new releases with every game.. XD;

NO. NO. NO MORE EEVEELUTIONS. 7 IS ENOUGH! COME ON, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE. *Breathes Maniacaly*

Haza January 9th, 2010 2:32 AM

I have been checking every site constantly to find more info on this. Its driving me insane. Guess we just have to wait for Coro Coro, but I cant remember if they do things on movies in that magizine...

Serene Grace January 9th, 2010 2:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rN Haza (Post 5461714)
I have been checking every site constantly to find more info on this. Its driving me insane. Guess we just have to wait for Coro Coro, but I cant remember if they do things on movies in that magizine...

I'm pretty sure Coro Coro do specials on all the Pokemon news - games and movies. Anyway, we'll just have to wait and see really.

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Originally Posted by Pokebeach
It has been brought to our attention that there was a major translation error in the sticker advertisement story we posted the other day. Instead of the advertisement reading "plus a Pokemon that's introduced in the movie," it should be read "plus a Pokemon that appears in the movie."

So, it looks like the Pokemon will only appear in the movie. It then might a be a one time thing..

♣Gawain♣ January 9th, 2010 2:57 AM

I have a feeling that the new pokemon could be a servant of Arceus.

Halcyon January 9th, 2010 3:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Charmageddon (Post 5459954)
Anyway, the dogs already have a master - Ho-oh.

I see.
No wonder I don't like Ho-oh. XD *shot*

Haza January 9th, 2010 4:03 AM

From Pokebeach
Spoiler:

It has been brought to our attention that there was a misconstrued translation in the sticker advertisement story we posted the other day. Instead of the advertisement reading "plus a Pokemon that's introduced in the movie," it should be interpreted as "plus a Pokemon that appears in the movie." This change invalidates the entire story, obviously, since any Pokemon can appear in the movie. There was actually a lot of debate among our translators regarding the translation's meaning after the story was posted, but it was ultimately decided that the translation was accurate because the specific word is often used in Japanese to mean "introduce" (in terms of a character that has not appeared before) and because the Japanese wording was odd in the way it was stating that other Pokemon would be in the product. We have now determined that the advertisement was simply using ambiguous wording to generate hype (an old marketing strategy). Therefore, I deeply apologize for the misconstrued information.
Despite the above, thanks to Yaminokame, we have recently learned that CoroCoro is going to have a "world-first" announcement in their next issue. In the current December 15th issue's preview section of the upcoming January 15th issue, there is a little blurb that states: "Pocket Monsters Master of Illusion: Z Quick Report!! Because it's CoroCoro there is a possibility for a world-first announcement!!" CoroCoro has revealed major news dozens of times before, including new Pokemon to be featured in upcoming movies, so the same may occur this time as well since the "world-first" announcement is concerning the 13th movie and they specifically reference their reputation. The issue will likely be leaked on the Internet between the 10th and 15th, and when it is, we will find out what they are talking about! (A silhouette of a Pokemon is usually what they show first, by the way.) However, there is a possibility the news will simply be something related to the movie's plot or even some promotional images - there are no guarantees it will be a new Pokemon, as it's still a bit early in the year. But we should definitely be seeing one in the next few months.
But that's not all! Pokemon Sunday, which will air two days after the magazine is officially released, has stated through their episode synopsis that they will be announcing something important on their January 17th show during the game segment. What could it be? Well, literally anything, so it may have nothing to do with any of this speculation or CoroCoro's announcement. But it may!
It seems like Ash's main journey in Sinnoh will end soon, as he [spoilers following] has one more badge to obtain and the new opening that aired in Japan yesterday shows off almost all Legendary Pokemon known so far - as if this is supposed to be the last epic opening to the show before something new, such as a 5th generation Pokemon, comes along. It's also convenient that this new opening is beginning to air around the time all these alleged announcements are coming. Not to mention that Ash's team will soon be very powerful (as evidenced by the evolutions he has), perhaps meaning he is going to face a big challenge soon (Battle Frontier? Elite Four?). Remember, Masamitsu Hidaka, the old director of the show, stated that the writers begin to evolve Ash's Pokemon when something big is coming up, and Ash's team is due for two evolutions soon as the opening shows.
And that's still not all! In a recent interview with a Japanese newspaper, the president of Nintendo commented that the DS's successor "[will have] highly detailed graphics" and "a sensor with the ability to read the movements of people playing." Recently, Gamefreak, the creators of the main Pokemon games, solicited to hire 3D artists. Perhaps they were seeking these employees to help with the 5th generation games since they will be on an apparently powerful 3D handheld. As Gamefreak currently only makes Pokemon games, where else would the 3D artists go? And since it would make sense for the new games to be in the works right now, some Pokemon designs are probably already finished and ready to be advertised. Again, these are just theories... what you would call "speculation." Not all of the facts are known or can be known. In the past, though, connecting the dots has often lead the Pokemon fandom to discovering patterns and predicting what will happen in the future.
In the article, Nintendo's president also refused to state an estimated release date for the DS's successor, instead citing that the DS is selling extremely well now. This implies that the successor will not be released anytime soon, though it is definitely in the horizon. We can probably guess it will be released in 2011, since 2010 is too early and 2012 is too far away for them to even begin dropping hints about their next handheld. If this theory is true, within the next few months we could begin seeing 5th generation Pokemon showcased (if our other news stories haven't convinced you already, specifically the ones about "Z"). Kecleon, Wailmer, and Azurill were the first 3rd generation Pokemon to be seen, revealed in March 2001 for 2002's Ruby and Sapphire, and Munchlax was the first 4th generation Pokemon, revealed in May 2004 for 2006's Diamond and Pearl. We could begin to see silhouettes as soon as this month (though probably later than sooner), with the fully revealed Pokemon later on.
Remember, most of this is just theory based on some facts and speculation. However, CoroCoro will probably reveal something major no matter what, and there will probably be 5th generation Pokemon coming soon no matter what. "Z" is probably a 5th generation Pokemon, and if not, we'll get something else instead. We'll see what happens regarding this speculation as the year unfolds!


Ugh, this article is so bibolar to me. It still has me excited to know what Coro Coro and Pokemn Sunday are going to reveal. And the thing about a mis translation is no surprise but it doesnt count out anything yet... Just learn to not be too optimistic when it comes to the Pokemon franchise.

Redstar January 9th, 2010 5:40 AM

It's very likely that something like formes will be present, if not actual formes. Just look at the cloned Pokemon in the first movie: visibly identical except for new markings. The movies have a tendency to differentiate important Pokemon via markings or physical corruption. From what I've heard and read on some Japanese sites, Ho-Oh and Lugia may have dark formes of a kind. We're not too far off in thinking of a "dark" Celebi.

GlitchCity January 9th, 2010 8:01 AM

it could be a 5th gen pokemon, like they did with the lucario movie. I would like to see dark celebi return from the 4th movie :D that would be bad ass

Serene Grace January 9th, 2010 10:26 AM

I really don't want new evolutions of existing Pokemon. Just new Pokemon, like they did when they first introduced Lucario in the movie: Lucario & The Mystery of Mew.

Haza January 9th, 2010 9:01 PM

The only thing that convinces me that there will be a new pokemon still is the "Z" in the title of the movie. Its not like a Human has ever been the title of a Pokemon move...

"Shadow Lugia" January 9th, 2010 10:16 PM

Pokebeach has a new article mentioning Pokemon Sunday's preview for next week's episode:
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Pokemon Sunday aired in Japan today (where it is Sunday), and for the preview of their next episode, host Shokotan displayed a large card with a question mark covering it. This obviously validates the news posted in the "5th Generation Evidence and Speculation" post regarding Pokemon Sunday revealing something important on their January 17th episode. What could this question mark be? Well, it could be a new Pokemon, but you never know for sure - we'll find out this time next week! The screenshots below are courtesy of Filb.de, which you can click for a larger picture.


Serene Grace January 10th, 2010 3:06 AM

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Originally Posted by "Shadow Lugia" (Post 5463935)
Pokebeach has a new article mentioning Pokemon Sunday's preview for next week's episode:

Awesome news. This is starting to increase the chances that this might be a 5th gen Pokemon, especially now that they're hinting at it.

Serebii January 10th, 2010 3:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Serene Grace (Post 5464226)

Awesome news. This is starting to increase the chances that this might be a 5th gen Pokemon, especially now that they're hinting at it.

No it doesn't. Pokémon Sunday is notorious for covering things in their previews, as they're that...previews. They're not going to show things off, they're going to encourage peoiple to watch next week

Last year they covered the Red Gyarados in a preview, they covered a Magikarp too for crying out loud.

It could be anything. They aren't hinting at anything. Yes it could be a 5th gen Pokémon, but it's equally as likely that it isn't. It could be them talking about the Celebi event in HGSS and Giovanni is behind that question mark. It could be the Lock Capsule. Heck it could be a new game like Ranger 3. We just can't tell.

Plus, thanks to yaminokame for informing me, the showing is in the Game Arena segment and not anything to do with the movie which would be where a new Pokémon is shown

Serene Grace January 10th, 2010 3:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Serebii (Post 5464235)
No it doesn't. Pokémon Sunday is notorious for covering things in their previews, as they're that...previews. They're not going to show things off, they're going to encourage peoiple to watch next week

Last year they covered the Red Gyarados in a preview, they covered a Magikarp too for crying out loud.

It could be anything. They aren't hinting at anything. Yes it could be a 5th gen Pokémon, but it's equally as likely that it isn't. It could be them talking about the Celebi event in HGSS and Giovanni is behind that question mark. It could be the Lock Capsule. Heck it could be a new game like Ranger 3. We just can't tell

Actually, in Pokebeach's post, they said that they will be revealing something important on January 17th. I would like to think that "something important" hints to an important new release or design idea which could well include a new Pokemon for all we know.

But, like I said before, it may well be that I'm wrong, you're wrong or we're both wrong. However, I still think that Pokemon Sunday won't say something is important and dissapoint by producing something minor.I think that there's a high possibility that a new game might be introduced, however, I'm still not cocksure about it but I'm sure that we'll learn what it really is by the 17th.

I also recommend taking a look at this article, maybe you'll see why I said that they were hinting at a Generation 5 Pokemon because it certainly managed to convince me.

Serebii January 10th, 2010 3:36 AM

Pokebeach is wrong. They're just speculating, there are no "hints".

From the Pokémon Sunday website thanks to yaminokame;

「ポケモンゲームアリーナ」では、ポケサンカンパニーが手に入れた重大ニュースを発表! 情報部・しょこたん部長から、驚きの情報が飛び出すぞ!
"The important news that the Pokesun Company has received will be announced during the "Pokemon Game Arena!" Department. Chief Shokotan (Information Department) will give out surprising news!"

Chances are good its just the 13th movie giveaway being revealed. A New Pokémon would be revealed on its own, not in any other area

Haza January 10th, 2010 4:04 AM

Sigh. I guess its a good thing not to be too optimistic so you wont be let down in situations like this but the timing is just so right right now. This will be the most interesting turn out regardless. (also, I cant remember what the lock capsule is for, or do we even know?)

iLaxbe! January 10th, 2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Serebii (Post 5464240)
Pokebeach is wrong. They're just speculating, there are no "hints".

From the Pokémon Sunday website thanks to yaminokame;

「ポケモンゲームアリーナ」では、ポケサンカンパニーが手に入れた重大ニュースを発表! 情報部・しょこたん部長から、驚きの情報が飛び出すぞ!
"The important news that the Pokesun Company has received will be announced during the "Pokemon Game Arena!" Department. Chief Shokotan (Information Department) will give out surprising news!"

Chances are good its just the 13th movie giveaway being revealed. A New Pokémon would be revealed on its own, not in any other area

Yes, PokéBeach is obviously speculating. But I think that this is all we Pokéfans can do, right?

It's 2010! If I don't see a 5th generation Pokémon in the next weeks I'll start to think that it's the end. Though Pokémon is a worldwide franchise, which generates uncountable direct and indirect profits, though every new Nintendo console is made after Pokémon executive directors' approval, I will only be sure of a future when I see a picture of a new monster.

I'm afraid, Serebii, I'm checking on your page every single day. Show us when it come, that's all I ask.

The Darkest Gale January 10th, 2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Serene Grace (Post 5464238)
Actually, in Pokebeach's post, they said that they will be revealing something important on January 17th. I would like to think that "something important" hints to an important new release or design idea which could well include a new Pokemon for all we know.

But, like I said before, it may well be that I'm wrong, you're wrong or we're both wrong. However, I still think that Pokemon Sunday won't say something is important and dissapoint by producing something minor.I think that there's a high possibility that a new game might be introduced, however, I'm still not cocksure about it but I'm sure that we'll learn what it really is by the 17th.

I also recommend taking a look at this article, maybe you'll see why I said that they were hinting at a Generation 5 Pokemon because it certainly managed to convince me.


my birthday!
I've been researching it (not very well) and even when I tried to find something on pokemon sunday and same nothing :(
oh well that gives me 2 things to look forward too xD

Serebii January 10th, 2010 3:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ¡Laxbe! (Post 5465244)
Yes, PokéBeach is obviously speculating. But I think that this is all we Pokéfans can do, right?

It's 2010! If I don't see a 5th generation Pokémon in the next weeks I'll start to think that it's the end. Though Pokémon is a worldwide franchise, which generates uncountable direct and indirect profits, though every new Nintendo console is made after Pokémon executive directors' approval, I will only be sure of a future when I see a picture of a new monster.

I'm afraid, Serebii, I'm checking on your page every single day. Show us when it come, that's all I ask.

You're jumping to conclusions

I'd say with a high amount of certainty that there will be a 5th gen in Movie 13

However I'd also say with a high amount of certainty that this announcement will not reveal it. At the very most we'll get a sihlouette in CoroCoro but that is at a massive stretch. As I have been saying, it is more than likely a reveal of an event. Don't forget, we're not meant to know about the Celebi event. It's my fault we do but they just go on as if that didn't happen

iLaxbe! January 10th, 2010 4:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Serebii (Post 5465500)
You're jumping to conclusions

I'd say with a high amount of certainty that there will be a 5th gen in Movie 13

However I'd also say with a high amount of certainty that this announcement will not reveal it. At the very most we'll get a sihlouette in CoroCoro but that is at a massive stretch. As I have been saying, it is more than likely a reveal of an event. Don't forget, we're not meant to know about the Celebi event. It's my fault we do but they just go on as if that didn't happen

I'd say with a high amount of certainty thank you for answering (first time it happens, in fact).

I remember when Gonbe was released, first that silhouette in the 7th movie website, then CoroCoro revealed it. Okay then, if you say so, I'll believe it. Thanks again.

.Gamer January 10th, 2010 5:18 PM

imo dunsparce or delebird needs a new evo.

gleeson638 January 11th, 2010 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldvsRed (Post 5456025)
I WANT A SQUID POKEMON. /capsrape

tentacruel and octillery they have enough squids

Spikey-Eared Pichu January 11th, 2010 6:02 PM

Okay, look, whether or not we're getting a preiview of the 5th Generation, allow people to speculate and wonder, okay? Don't shoot down our ideas, please. I'm hoping for just one, one would do me in for Gen 5.

Skully367 January 11th, 2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gleeson638 (Post 5468069)
tentacruel and octillery they have enough squids

Tentacruel is a jellyfish.
Octillery is a octopus.
There is no squid Pokemon.

everglow89 January 12th, 2010 10:05 AM

Gonna throw in my two cents here. I read recently that Nintendo announced (among other things like a 2010 release of the new Zelda Wii game) that they are in preparation for releasing the next hand held to succeed the DS. It makes sense that Gen. V news would be starting to kick off about now.


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