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Anti-Hero January 10th, 2010 6:10 PM

Walmart-BYOB
 
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It's BYOB at Walmart.
Bring your own bag to Walmart stores in Citrus Heights and Folsom to haul home all those eggs, soup cans and sandwich meat – or shell out 15 cents to buy a reusable bag at the store. read more

Basically, the people living in the area have to bring their own bags when they shop at walmart. Or, they can pay for some 15 cent reusable bags. Or, they can just load everything into their car, bagless.

How would you feel about this?

I would be sorta of mad. I spend the money at there store, they least they could do is give me a bag to take everything home in. I shouldn't have to pay extra. Yeah, it is just fifteen cents, but that's not really the point. I would pay the extra money, but only because It'd be hell unloading each item bag-less. Knowing me, I'd forget to grab my bags on the way out the door.

Shiny January 10th, 2010 6:24 PM

It's also reducing the pollution in the environment, so I'm all for it.

Esper January 10th, 2010 6:26 PM

People really should get into the habit of bringing a bag with them to grocery stores. Using a disposable bag every time you go is a waste since most people throw them away after one use. I'm glad to see a big name store like Walmart adopting this kind of policy.

I have to wonder how well made a 15-cent bag is though. It sounds like it'd break after a few uses, but who knows.

Tyrantrum January 10th, 2010 6:56 PM

I'd prefer that a lot more. Too many littering of plastic bags.

My friends mom has one of those, and 15 cents for a reusable bag isn't really that bad. I'd pay the money, that is, if I had money. lol

Wobbubobafett January 10th, 2010 7:16 PM

this is a wonderful thing, the plastic bag is the largest consumer product in the world and it is very obsolete,

save the environment. like bringing your own bags is that big of a hassle.

Anti-Hero January 10th, 2010 7:21 PM

It is good for the environment, and I'm all for going "green." It justs seems like to me, the bags should be free. The 15 cents will add up if you have a lot of things needing bags. 15...30...45... 60... . I know that when my family goes grocery shopping we have at the very least
20 bags. That's an extra 3 bucks to fork over. More bags, more money.

I might be making a big deal over this, but it isn't really so much about money. They are forcing change on people, which from what've been taught is wrong. :/

Unforgettable January 10th, 2010 7:21 PM

I think it's a great idea. It's helps the environment out so much. I use my own bags anyways. But the bags should be free if they are going to do that.

And fun fact: did you know it takes 1000 years for one plastic bag to biodegrade in a land fill?
This one store is keeping thousands of bags out of the land fill.

snap12 January 10th, 2010 7:33 PM

This doesn't surprises me at all. Walmart is an evil corporation and Im proud to say I have never set foot inside one.
Im not being a lunatic either, i'll try and find the link to one of the many articles that show Walmart is evil, and i think there was a story on 60 minutes about how they cheat their employees and developing countries that make their products

Captain Hobo. January 10th, 2010 7:50 PM

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Originally Posted by entrancer. (Post 5466090)
It's also reducing the pollution in the environment, so I'm all for it.

There is my answer because us people need to keep our environment clean.

ÇyänïdëÉX January 10th, 2010 7:53 PM

if its free then people wont bother to bring the reusable bags because its free. You see the way they cost 15 cents is a bit cheap i mean down here in miami you gotta pay 80 cents to a dollar to even 15 dollars. So i am all for having those bags, in fact they should at least cost 50 cents. That way people will learn to bring their own bags.

I actually would love to see many places discontinue the use of plastic/paper bags and enforce the "bring your own bag" policy.

Cherrim January 10th, 2010 8:37 PM

Canada does something like this. Or at least, Ontario does. All grocery stores (and other stores? I'm not sure) are required to charge customers for every plastic bag they use. It's only $0.05 but it does add up over time. It was really annoying at first since I actually do reuse my bags until they're useless, but I can't really complain.

There are a few stores that don't do it, or they'll forget to charge you for it and the cashier just doesn't care. But otherwise they all push their reusable cloth bags on you. I have a few of them that I never seem to remember to bring with me when I go grocery shopping but when I do remember them, they're so much more convenient than plastic bags because they hold a lot more, they're more comfortable to carry, and they're a lot sturdier.

I wouldn't be surprised if charging for each individual plastic bag becomes the norm everywhere. It's a bit annoying, especially if you need a lot of them, but it makes you step back and think about what you're using.

Anti-Hero January 10th, 2010 9:05 PM

Yeah I guess. It will be better this way, the green part of me just wants to end it at that, but the argumentative part of me wants to bring something else up, but I guess that there is nothing to bring up really.

Reina January 10th, 2010 9:09 PM

Not gonna lie-- yeah, I'd be a bit annoyed to pay; just 'cause of the concept. But you know what? That little action would be helping our environment so much, so when it comes down to it, I'm comletely for the idea. I honestly think more stores should start doing this.

Legobricks January 10th, 2010 10:41 PM

I always forget to bring a bag of my own... after all why shouldn't you? So it might make me stop forgetting. :)
I was always quite baffled at why bags are free anyway, so I wouldn't mind paying either.

Bay January 11th, 2010 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by snap12 (Post 5466266)
This doesn't surprises me at all. Walmart is an evil corporation and Im proud to say I have never set foot inside one.
Im not being a lunatic either, i'll try and find the link to one of the many articles that show Walmart is evil, and i think there was a story on 60 minutes about how they cheat their employees and developing countries that make their products

As someone who does case studies for Wal-Mart at uni, I think you're a bit bias here and only siding with the people who are hardcore activists of of the store. I'm not saying that Wal-Mart is the perfect store since of course it isn't, but you have to realize sometimes articles online and even TV programs like 60 minutes tend to go only one side of the debate. I too read articles about Wal-Mart, but they're case studies made by a group of academics that explains the good and bad things about the store (true, sometimes professors and other academics are bias, but most of the time their arguments are more reliable than the media you're used too every day).

Anywayyyyys, well my mom and I would use the plastic bags as either trash bags or to put our lunches in. XD We still have a bunch of them though in our house. @[email protected] I know the reusable bags at our Wal-Mart are cheap, so I might try to convince her to buy a few of them since yeah, we're not the most environmental people out there. :x I bet though we're forget to bring them. XD;

Hiidoran January 11th, 2010 12:35 AM

I'm actually pretty happy to see this, and I wish all stores would take this initiative. I mean, a good percentage of humanity still doesn't quite understand the priority of recycling or even "going green" for that matter. We're pretty set in our wasteful ways, so forceful methods such as these seem to be a perfect solution.

...now if only I could actually remember to bring those things to the store. XD;

GymLeaderMisty January 11th, 2010 1:52 AM

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Originally Posted by entrancer. (Post 5466090)
It's also reducing the pollution in the environment, so I'm all for it.

How much gas is used in container ships used to ship all the stuff from China to the US? I will acknow;edge that shipping is more energy efficient per mile though, but it is still 8000 miles to go from China to a West Coast port.


Great!! Increase the US trade deficit; shop at Wal-Mart... makes you look so prole.

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty January 11th, 2010 3:27 AM

We've been doing this in the UK* for two years now. I think it works pretty well. It stops people from taking carrier bags when they don't actually need one, it helps the environment a tiny bit, and the re-usable bags the supermarkets now sell are super useful for carrying heavier groceries and not having to worry that the bag is going to break halfway home. I'm all for it.

* Sainsburys, W. H. Smiths, Marks and Spencers are the main adopters. And HMV have started to use paper bags instead of plastic ones which are awesome.

FreakyLocz14 January 11th, 2010 4:08 AM

It's terrible. Sure they could sell these bags as optional but making them required compromises Wal-Marts "Always Low Prices" message.
I don't wanna go on a rant but if they tried this in my community Wal-Mart would quickly lose business.

mewthree w/armor January 11th, 2010 6:51 AM

I don't want to say its a bad idea, but I love getting bags, not having to bring my own, and not paying extra. I would rather see them do more recycling of plastic bottles and such.

Cherrim January 11th, 2010 6:59 AM

One thing I also wanted to mention...

A few years ago, they used to try to tell people to bring their own cloth/reusable bags and while a handful of people did (I'd see maybe 2 people a month bringing their own bags) did that, it didn't catch on. Now that they charge for plastic bags... I'd say half (or more!) of everyone I see at grocery stores are using their own bags or boxes. Imagine if that caught on everywhere--it would definitely make a difference.

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Originally Posted by mewthree w/armor (Post 5467084)
I don't want to say its a bad idea, but I love getting bags, not having to bring my own, and not paying extra. I would rather see them do more recycling of plastic bottles and such.

Well, the difference between recycling bottles and the like is... you can actually recycle those bottles. Plastic bags like the ones they have in commercial stores? Those don't recycle (well, if at all--I'm actually not sure). Unless you bring the bags home and reuse them for things yourself until they wear out, they probably just end up in a landfill and they take much longer than most materials to decompose so... just doing a lot of other things isn't gonna change that or make it any better. And then even if you do use them a lot at home, they still end up in a landfill. :/

I normally don't even care much about the environment but I think this is a good habit for society to get into. Just so long as people start remembering to bring their own bags which is the biggest hurdle. :p

Bay January 11th, 2010 9:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5466946)
It's terrible. Sure they could sell these bags as optional but making them required compromises Wal-Marts "Always Low Prices" message.
I don't wanna go on a rant but if they tried this in my community Wal-Mart would quickly lose business.

How would Wal-Mart lose business? If anything, I think this will help its business. The company is trying to be more green(and they have been for quite some time after reading the case studies of that company), so the bags are something for the environmental minded consumer. Not only that, this might make the people that don't care too much about the environment to do something about it. I see if more people caught on to this then the company will gain quite a bit of profit from the reusable bag sales.

Feign January 11th, 2010 10:35 AM

I hope people don't simply throw away their grocery bags when they get home... Such a waste... I mean at our house, we reuse ours not only for select stores that do encourage us to bring our own bags, but we use them for small garbage bags (the kitchen one etc).

I live with my mom and sister, and while I realize there are other families that don't have the same number as us, I am still surprised that around the neighborhood, every other people's garbage (evident on trash day) is like 2-3 times bigger than ours...

EDIT: In Australia they were already encouraging the use and reuse of cloth bags. And now I've started to seem them much more often here, in Canada.

ÇyänïdëÉX January 11th, 2010 11:17 AM

If walmart lost costumers because of that feature then the community would be classified as lazy good for nothings. The only problem with reusable bags is the fact that a lot have it but we tend to forget to bring it. i guess its just something that should become a habit.

Guy January 11th, 2010 11:41 AM

Personally, I like the idea. I mean it shows Wal-Mart isn't only thinking money (well it is seeing they want you to buy their bags, but $0.15 isn't going to kill anyone), but they're also thinking green such as for the environment. The plastic bags which are still being used here in Florida come in useful for household trash, but other than that they themselves are trashed and are left unusable like other recycled items might be. However, we have taken a step up since Wal-Mart here has been offering their blue reusable bags since mid last year.

If the same rule applies here overtime, then I can see complaints, but I can also see better for our area. Like said, it's about time things are being taken into action for a better environment and a simple step as this is quite easy to handle and can make a difference.

Finally, less plastic bags on the side of city and highway roads.

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Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5466946)
It's terrible. Sure they could sell these bags as optional but making them required compromises Wal-Marts "Always Low Prices" message.
I don't wanna go on a rant but if they tried this in my community Wal-Mart would quickly lose business.

If Wal-Mart were to lose business because of this, then I would have to agree the people in your area would just be acting quite lazy. It isn't hard to bring in your own bags nor is it difficult to purchase any of their reusable bags. It's a better benefit more or less, but in all honesty I don't see Wal-Mart losing any business from one simple cause.

Akio123 January 11th, 2010 11:47 AM

See I go to school in Washington DC, its a nickel per bag and I'm okay with it because it helps the environment. I am just gonna buy a dollar biodegradable bag and go shopping with that.

FreakyLocz14 January 11th, 2010 7:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiiro (Post 5467409)
Personally, I like the idea. I mean it shows Wal-Mart isn't only thinking money (well it is seeing they want you to buy their bags, but $0.15 isn't going to kill anyone), but they're also thinking green such as for the environment. The plastic bags which are still being used here in Florida come in useful for household trash, but other than that they themselves are trashed and are left unusable like other recycled items might be. However, we have taken a step up since Wal-Mart here has been offering their blue reusable bags since mid last year.

If the same rule applies here overtime, then I can see complaints, but I can also see better for our area. Like said, it's about time things are being taken into action for a better environment and a simple step as this is quite easy to handle and can make a difference.

Finally, less plastic bags on the side of city and highway roads.


If Wal-Mart were to lose business because of this, then I would have to agree the people in your area would just be acting quite lazy. It isn't hard to bring in your own bags nor is it difficult to purchase any of their reusable bags. It's a better benefit more or less, but in all honesty I don't see Wal-Mart losing any business from one simple cause.

Unfortunately you would be correct is saying that people in my area are lazy but some are just low income.
Many of them would flock to Target or K-Mart in protest. I know because a Safeway tried this and everyone went to Lucky or Albertsons. Safeway went back to plastic bags within a week.

Rabbit January 11th, 2010 8:39 PM

Man, 15 cents for a reusable bag is such a deal! We had to buy ours for a dollar each.

I think it's a reasonable step for Wal Mart to take. The other big-box stores are likely to follow their example. At Superstore (Canadian grocery store), most people are using reusable bags, now. They're really big and convenient. Apparently people are getting used to the change really quickly.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ January 11th, 2010 11:44 PM

It wouldn't matter to me. I do so little shopping at Wal-Mart that I could carry my stuff out without a bag. Or stuff them into my huge coat pockets and look like a shoplifter. Or bring in a bag from Target and put my stuff in that XD

My parents, however... I'd estimate they'd have to buy about 15 of those bags considering the amount of groceries they get at a time (they do one huge shopping trip a month and typically purchase $150-$200 worth of food a trip). I'm not sure how'd they react. It would depend on how durable those bags are, I suppose.

Lucy Lu January 12th, 2010 12:17 AM

Hmmm...so Wal-Mart has joined in the bandwagon of reusable bags. I know in my grocery store you can bring your own bags. They are so convenient. Plastic bags break and all of your food will be on the floor. But you have to pay about 99 cents for a bag. But you can use it as many times as you want. And you get to enter a contest to win a gift card. The things to do for everyone to use reusable bags.

But I see why Wal-Mart cares for the environment. I am all for it. But they still need to work on their customer service.

Shadow January 12th, 2010 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hiiro (Post 5467409)
Personally, I like the idea. I mean it shows Wal-Mart isn't only thinking money (well it is seeing they want you to buy their bags, but $0.15 isn't going to kill anyone), but they're also thinking green such as for the environment. The plastic bags which are still being used here in Florida come in useful for household trash, but other than that they themselves are trashed and are left unusable like other recycled items might be. However, we have taken a step up since Wal-Mart here has been offering their blue reusable bags since mid last year.

They are still thinking money as they gain the added benefit of not needing to give bags away for free and they need to produce less bags overall. They do lose (some) money from just giving anything away, even those cheap, plastic bags.

I always re-use any plastic bags I get, anyways. They make great trash bags for tiny trashcans and my friend's family always uses them for scooping dog mess up while walking. I have a huge ball of plastic bags under my sink that will see use again in some way before heading to the dump.

mewthree w/armor January 12th, 2010 6:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5468428)
Unfortunately you would be correct is saying that people in my area are lazy but some are just low income.
Many of them would flock to Target or K-Mart in protest. I know because a Safeway tried this and everyone went to Lucky or Albertsons. Safeway went back to plastic bags within a week.

Thanks for bringing this up. We have the low income issue also, lots of old and young people under the poverty line. Our issue is, we don't have Targets or K-Marts to flock to. Wal-Mart controls the area, and I doubt they would even try this because they wouldn't want to endanger there lead here.

FreakyLocz14 January 12th, 2010 9:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mewthree w/armor (Post 5468961)
Thanks for bringing this up. We have the low income issue also, lots of old and young people under the poverty line. Our issue is, we don't have Targets or K-Marts to flock to. Wal-Mart controls the area, and I doubt they would even try this because they wouldn't want to endanger there lead here.

Yes to people of moderate income 15 cents a bag isn't a big deal but people with small incomes really pinch every single penny they have.
I can see Wal-Marts located in areas that are more affluent or where most of the population is "green" doing this but in my city one of the Wal-Marts is located on the ghetto side of town and I don't see it happening there. Some of my friends are unfortunate enough to be in that situation and they don't even buy garbage bags because they use the plastic bags from stores for that job.


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