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Darthatron January 16th, 2010 3:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H2O Turquoise (Post 5477165)
That defines me as a guy who doesn't know anything about hacking. But I still like to hack and hack I will. 97,42% calculated of people who are in the ROM Hacking community don't know how to use a Hex Editor including me.

If those statistics are true, that is truly depressing.

Tropical Sunlight January 16th, 2010 3:18 AM

I don't really hesitate for knowledge of the structure of a ROM, I only want to make a hack.

There, I said it.

HackMew January 16th, 2010 3:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheryl Cole ♥ (Post 5477129)
Well there basically hacking the rom if their using tools. Cause that's what tools are for.

Well, basically they are not.


Quote:

Originally Posted by H2O Turquoise (Post 5477178)
I don't really hesitate for knowledge of the structure of a ROM, I only want to make a hack.

There, I said it.

That's paradoxical. Making a hack requires knowledge. Specialized tools would not exist in first place, otherwhise.

Poryhack January 16th, 2010 8:17 AM

I'm not sure if anybody actually read SCV's post but as he said, there are two groups of people.

ROM hackers are comfortable using a hex editor, debugger, RAM editor, etc to do research that will eventually result in new tools. Without these people none of you would be here today; just saying. If they happen to actually be making their own hack (which it seems like most of the time they're not, because research and development is more interesting/critical to them) it would be stupid of them to not use preexisting tools whenever possible. As I said already, there's nothing superior about a hex editor when there's already a program for the job.

ROM editors use the tools put forth by either a hacker or a third-party programmer using the hacker's work. In this sense the editor is very much limited by what the tools are capable of. Now assuming all the tools are perfect and there's a tool to edit every aspect of the game that'd be fine. But that's not the case sadly. If editors really want their hack to be perfect they almost have to become hackers. Why? For all those little things you wanna do but there's no tool for, or all those times a tool just doesn't work the way it's supposed to. The existing group of hackers can't be relied on or pressured into making you tools. It'd require an unreal amount of people and dedication to just whip out every tool you've ever had a whim for, so you ought to accept that you're the only person you can rely on to get it done.


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