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Teh Blazer January 19th, 2010 4:44 PM

Rival Lies!
 
In the Fr/Lg games (and even in R/B/Y), when you go to Nugget Bridge, your rival is there. After you beat him he gloats about him catching 40 types of Pokemon, BULL! I know i'm not good with counting, but i'm positive you can't find 40 Pokemon from Pallet to Cerulean (Even with evolving!) just like that. Did he just say that to gloat, or was that jerk telling the truth? If he did (most likely) gloat, why did he do it? I thought Rival only cared to be better than you in Pokemon fighting...

[b]Actually, your rival talks about this during the S.S ANNE. Sorry for the confusion[/s]

Chaos Rush January 19th, 2010 4:52 PM

He says that he found 40 different kinds on the fight on the S.S. Anne. I remember a few months ago someone actually counted how much Pokemon you can get from Pallet Town to Vermilion, and you can actually get 42 without trading.

FalconsDrummer January 19th, 2010 5:06 PM

Hm . . . you do have to wonder why, if he has caught 40 kinds, he only uses 4 or 5 Pokémon in battle. :P

Kimicatdemon January 19th, 2010 5:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FalconsDrummer (Post 5486502)
Hm . . . you do have to wonder why, if he has caught 40 kinds, he only uses 4 or 5 Pokémon in battle. :P

Pretty much sums up what I was thinking in a nutshell.

BHwolfgang January 19th, 2010 7:47 PM

He evolved his Pokemons? He probably went to Vermillion already but came back to see Bill.

Teh Blazer January 19th, 2010 9:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos Rush (Post 5486438)
He says that he found 40 different kinds on the fight on the S.S. Anne. I remember a few months ago someone actually counted how much Pokemon you can get from Pallet Town to Vermilion, and you can actually get 42 without trading.

Really? I should check that later...

JaniWesker January 19th, 2010 9:44 PM

I remember in the anime, Gary had 200+ Pokémons but he had some of these like 3-4 times each. Maybe that's what he wanted to say in the game.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ January 20th, 2010 11:23 AM

Actually, who's to say he hasn't traded yet? After all, later in the game his Kadabra evolves to Alakazam, so he must have traded for that to happen. So, perhaps he's also traded before boarding the S.S. Anne.

560cool. January 20th, 2010 11:47 AM

Actually in the S.S Anne was the time he said that ...

And I counted , and together with EVOs you can even get 41 Pokemon by the SS Anne and make him feel so unimportant .... !

Teh Blazer January 21st, 2010 9:02 PM

Then, what would happen if you beat him in catching pokemon? I'd like to see the expression o his face...

~RNC~ January 21st, 2010 9:08 PM

Well, in my opinion, even if he did or didn't catch 40 pokes, he was just doing it to brag, just like he always did in all the games!!

GlitchCity January 23rd, 2010 7:53 PM

When I was playing my LG version I too was having doubts about him catching 40 pokemon, then I checked and you can get over 40 without trading

Wings Don't Cry January 26th, 2010 1:18 AM

Can't believe he had 40 Pokemon at that time. I didn't even have 20 when I challenged the Elite 4, but I guess that says more about me than him.

ChrisTom January 28th, 2010 1:13 PM

Yes, he probably did trade the Alakazam, but he claims he CAUGHT the Pokemon.

Also, perhaps he didn't mean 40 different types, just 40 Pokemon in general...

Sydian January 28th, 2010 4:52 PM

I think he's a loser that lied to try to impress you, especially if you're the female player. But in all seriousness, you can get about 41 or so without trading. But I do agree on that I don't understand why he wouldn't use them. Gary is really picky though, so he probably only picked the Pokemon he thought were the best. That doesn't explain Raticate very well, does it?

Also, the original RBY was made back when the motto was all "Gotta catch'em all!" so I think it could also be viewed as a marketing scheme. Just my opinion though.

Enigma January 28th, 2010 10:37 PM

I think he had a chance of actually getting 40 pokemon, but I mostly think he was just bragging.

Ninja Caterpie January 29th, 2010 12:22 AM

Could just have 39 other Pidgey. That'd explain why he only uses a few Pokemon.

Lord Varion January 29th, 2010 5:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaniWesker (Post 5487214)
I remember in the anime, Gary had 200+ Pokémons but he had some of these like 3-4 times each. Maybe that's what he wanted to say in the game.


Yeah but i didnt get that in the anime coz it was before he does the last gym .... but in those times there were 151 pokemon .... :S

Myles January 29th, 2010 6:28 AM

Is the total amount possible caught by then counting in the current evolution of his starter?

Fr0z3n January 29th, 2010 10:52 PM

But haha, remember, some pokemon are limited in some versions.

Timbjerr January 30th, 2010 12:23 AM

...or Blue could be way farther ahead of Red than you think...

In R/B and FR/LG, assuming he didn't start with Bulbasaur, he'll have an Exeggcute (which can't be caught until the Safari Zone) on his battling team when you fight him in Lavender Town.

FreakyLocz14 January 30th, 2010 1:36 AM

So this 41-42 figure is the amount you could possibly have with or without evolving?

Gary devoted his time to completing his Pokedex more than becoming the best trainer since the person he was doing the favor for is his grandfather.
In fact he doesn't decide to take the League challenge seriously until after the battle in Silph Co.

Lord Varion January 30th, 2010 1:54 AM

Gary doesnt say wether he got different kinds he could have just caught more than 1 of the same kind of pokemon ... :)

Yume Tsuki January 30th, 2010 2:47 AM

On fire red I decided to catch anything I see what I don't have yet. Even though I got the pre evo's, I catch them all. :P (I do it so It will help me complete the pokedex on Pearl.) I'm now at cinnabar having 71 species. If you keep on catching anything you see what you don't have you can keep up with the amount the Aides want you to have for an Item. :P

It's possible to have 40 kinds of pokemon if you are on de S.S. Anne.

Teh Blazer January 30th, 2010 2:58 PM

When we say he evolved them, we do mean he kept under the level cap of what the game wants you to have, right? That means no lv. 35 Hypno or lv. 36 Pidgeot for Gary. Just a weenie lv. 23 (or something) evolved starter.


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