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Incest ^o^
So guys. For some this might seem a bit morbid of a topic, but I am anxious to see everyone's views on incest. Do you think it's okay for Uncle Pete and Nephew Jarred to treat each other to a candle-lit dinner? Do you think the government has the right to control who people share physical intimacy with?
Spill your thoughts. u3u |
Do you want your child to have three legs and one eye? Me neither.
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I'm abit curious as to why you even thought of this, but it's not my place to judge.
I personally believe it's extremely creepy o.o |
It should be legal if it is between consenting adults, bottom line. I understand that the issue becomes muddled morally when you consider the tendency of some incestuous relationships to develop out of pedophilic ones, and whether or not consent is truly consent if it is an attitude that has been cultivated through the psychological influence of another, etc.
BUT as far as legislation goes there's no reason (that I can see) why two independent individuals shouldn't be able to have whatever relations they choose to have with one another. P.S. i want to treat that smiley in the title to a candle-lit dinner 83 |
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And I think incest is not the best. Do not put your sister to the test |
Uhh, I feel sickened by this topic and have the need to spout profanities right now, but I don't.
Incest = Bad, bad, bad |
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What about the shallow gene pool? |
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I mean, if you are in love with or just want to seduce your cousin (provided you're both consenting adults), what business of that is the Government's? :/ Or really anybody else's... Sure, mutation is a risk, but that's something you'll have to think about yourself. (You could always just have protected sex and adopt a baby. :B) Neither the Government, nor anyone else, should be allowed to stop you (on the pretense of caring). Pædophilia is a no-no, obviously. ;o |
Although I'd never do it, I think incest should be acceptable in society as long as all participants give mutual consent. Otherwise no.
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If I had a hot attractive sister, then it's fair game with every other guy after her.
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I must agree with the other posters though, there are reasons that it is a taboo subject: shallow gene pools. Incest = no in my opinion. |
Bro's and Sis', no way.
Son + Mum, or Daughter + Dad, no way. Cousins? Yeah that's okay, but I would never do it. |
It is creepy and disgunting, but this kind of thing happens. But as said, if it's mutual, I don't have the right to judge anybody.
And though the cousin/cousin incest is 12.5% chance of children being born with bad formation, like blindness, I don't think it's as incestuous as other relations. Specially when you have a cousin like mine... STOP, DIRTY THOUGHTS, STOP! |
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People can have relationships without having children, you know. So any argument against incest based on the "shallow gene pool" is kind of not relevant, except perhaps to the people who are personally considering having a relation with a biological relative, but that's their choice to make, not others'. Besides, I'm sure we'd agree that it would be wrong to say that people with a genetic disease couldn't have children just because of a potential for it to be passed on.
Incest gets into bad territory when one of the people is underage (which is bad even without the incest factor) or there is some kind of psychological factor involved (like a parent's authority over a child even if that child is of age legally) which blurs whether or not it is a consensual relationship. Consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want with each other. |
Well, my answer to this would be the same as the answer I would give to a variety of moral topics like this:
1) Human beings should be allowed to do whatever they want. 2) Point 1) is void if violating the rights of another human being(ie. both must be consenting). 3) I don't want any part in it personally. So basically, to echo what others have already said, it should be allowed assuming both parties consent. Though that said, I'd hope they'd realize not to bring another life into the world as a result, knowing what effects that could have on the child biologically. I remember hearing something about one man finally finding his long lost sister(who had been given up for adoption as a baby). Thing is, his 'sister' actually turned out to be the woman he was married to for the past year or so. That situation, although extreme, makes we wonder if some couples may already be related without knowing it. O_o |
As long as they don't reproduce, there's no reason not to.
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I'm pretty much against it.
Purely because of the whole shallow gene pool thing. But in this situation I wouldn't split them up: Brother/Sister and Brother/Sister get split at birth. They meet again and don't know they're related, they fall in love. I'd tell them, and if they choose to stay together thats up to them. But I don't support it when both people are fully aware when they start having sex or whatever. |
The government prohibits it? if yes then its for a reason. That reason is to avoid genetic malformations and such ahaha.
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Err, I don't support anything between closer relationships than first-cousins. @[email protected];
Quite frankly, I could care less about the shallow gene pool since it's something they consciously brought upon themselves. However, I would be against it because of the increased chances of diseases in their offspring as a result of such a shallow gene pool. |
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If both people consent to it, then they can do what they want. I don't care. |
Also, consent can be compromised with incest.
I'm sure it happens often when they both consent, but the younger one was probably groomed/conditioned for that. So consent is a very gray area. |
I don't see why people would even want to have an incest with each other. I have a big brother and I know him too well to be in love with him.
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By incest, don't you mean, wincest?
Lets be real here. |
Um, hello? Is everyone here forgetting that most famous authors/artists out there have had at least ONE relationship that could be considered incest? xD Poe! Wells! Even Darwin!
Back on topic, I see no reason to care about what other relationships people would want to have. It's kind of like gay/lesbian marriage; you want to marry a chick? So what. Go right ahead; no skin off my back. Though as stated before, as long as it's MUTUAL consent, then it's all good and I don't see why not? Not me; not my problem. As long as they don't go spewing out three eyed little monsters, I have no worries. xD As for me personally though, I would never do it. To me it just seems like a creepy subject to even think about, let alone consider or even to go through with it. o__O; |
I don't think I have the right to judge other people as long as they actually love each other and are of age. At least with incest you don't get a mother-in-law :D
Oh, and I think I remember hearing somewhere that people back then marrying close relatives for financial gain. |
Who knew that PC was such a hub for casual eugenists? :o
I kind of really wish this thread was in Other Chat so we could have a for real debate, but whatever. |
Laws against this exist primarily to protect children... at least, that's the way I see it. Though laws should be modified to be similar to statutory rape laws, since incest wasn't considered to include first- and second- cousins until the last 100 years.
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It's not good. Especially the chances of having a genetic disease, dominant or recessive, will rise.
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You know, just a thought. But don't we all technically come from extremely limited gene pools?
Say you're religious, and you believe that Adam and Eve were the first two humans. We then all descended from them, so early on there had to have been some sort of incestuous breeding going on. Same thing if you subscribe to evolution. Early on there would have to have been a lot of inbreeding. I could be completely wrong though... So do correct me if that's the case. As for me... It's not something I'm into. But I'm not going to judge others for what they want to do. I'm bisexual myself, so I understand what it's like to be a minority and have laws made to prohibit who you are... Now, it's one thing if anything is done without permission, but consenting adults... come on now. I do, however, think there should be some sort of law regarding conception. I'm not quite sure how that would work, but it would be best to try and prevent children from that sort of relationship because of the potential mutations. |
Let's all be honest - 150 years ago, you wouldn't care if your best friend started _____ his sister.
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Haven't read the Old Testament so I can't provide the fundamentalist view, but I think most believers just hold that God actually created more people after Adam and Eve in order to populate the world. It's all very vague and open to interpretation anyway. |
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If you didn't understand that; Our brothers, the Neanderthals, were very accustomed to Europe. They were very strong, and they had a larger ribcage (along with small pelvic bone). This larger ribcage helped them breath during the winter and helped preserve heat. Humans on the other hand were considerably weaker and had smaller ribcages, but we had a larger pelvic bone which enabled us to run. Our running is what branced us off from the other Homos, our brothers, and helped our species survive. |
But isn't like incesisn totally against the idea of evolution... That is a reason enough imo, coupled with genetic diseases, I see no point.
Even the idea of a relationship b/w cousins is sick, but then its still better than brother and sister. But then again, there is a high possibility that the one you are marrying is your cousin anyway, especially if your parents (there are countries where orthodox beliefs still exist) want to get you married in the same race (and same caste as in india) And nowadays since there isn't really anyone from a pure race or caste, it is likely you might be marrying your cousin anyway :P And if you have studied high school biology, we all do have a common ancestor, and so do monkeys... So we all are in fact cousins O.o |
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If they signed an agreement to commit to not having children then as long as the two were also consenting then I'd be fine with it. However you couldn't truly enforce a no-conception policy without requiring the partners to have a vasectomy/tubal ligation, and forcing them to do this would be highly questionable. |
If wanting to sleep with your best friend's (whom you consider a sister) brother is incest, then I think it's wonderful. =3 I not, ewww! >< Seriously, WTF? =/ I can't believe anyone could find any of their relatives sexually attractive. X.x Thinking they're handsome/pretty is one thing, but being aroused by them is another. |
Incest? Moar liek Wincest amirite? If its like..cute...twin girls of legal consensual age? I'm okay with this ;D
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Seriously couldn't have put it better myself, 'Zam. xD Yeah, I think everyone's entitled to their own views and choices in life as long as they're not violating basic human rights. I, personally, would never want to be involved in any kind of incest, but with that said, a topic like this is extremely subjective and controversial; everyone you ask will probably give a different opinion on it. |
You don't need to be the product of incest to get four toes, six fingers and half an eye. If people wanted their offsprings to have shallower gene pools, I can't do anything about that anyway, so why bother?
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I think it's wrong for several reasons, many of which are obvious. >< Any relationship closer than first cousins is just plain wrong.
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Gross!
I think pedophilia is less grosser than this! |
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More than half of you in this thread wouldn't think twice about it if we were in the nineteenth century.
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If we were in the age of those people, half of your friends would be having incestuous relationships and you'd dive straight into anything. It's frowned upon now, so you wouldn't. |
Creepy. And I don't want my relatices to be deformed. : \
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