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558122_DG January 25th, 2010 8:30 PM

DKG's Spriting talent (if i have any :P)
 
Hello, I've been spriting for about 2 weeks now. And i've been rom hacking for 2 months. Please be considerate when giving criticism. I'm still beginning thnx :)

Fakemon:



OW:
Spoiler:
http://i50.*.com/2nvfsdk.jpg

Alright, the head/pallette idea, is completely me.The body section is a splice :P



Tiles:
Spoiler:

This one is really bad :(
http://i48.*.com/x5z8rr.png
Ok and these are more recent
http://i47.*.com/4kimh3.jpg
http://i48.*.com/xepkzm.jpg
Little tree XD


Ok I'm still working on the little tree (fixing it up). Expect more from me. Oh and all of those above are 100%scratched. (except the OWs, I kinda scratched/spliced on those :P)

Omega Zero January 25th, 2010 11:03 PM

Wow! these are good Dkg.. i hope to see more from you :)

Gigatom~ January 26th, 2010 4:46 AM

Heey DKG! Nice Sprites and Tiles. Only one thing, you should add more shading to your fakemon. That looks much better ;) Keep it up ! x3

Gigatom~

558122_DG January 26th, 2010 11:33 AM

sure thnx :)

Yea, still trying to master shading :P

Professor W. January 26th, 2010 1:08 PM

Wow, these are great! You've really only been spriting for 2 weeks? The only real problem I see is that the tail of the second Fakemon is to erect. Other than that, these are practically flawless. Keep up the good work!

~Professor W.

558122_DG January 26th, 2010 2:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Professor W. (Post 5501687)
Wow, these are great! You've really only been spriting for 2 weeks? The only real problem I see is that the tail of the second Fakemon is to erect. Other than that, these are practically flawless. Keep up the good work!

~Professor W.

your too kind :P

http://i48.*.com/ds74z.png
Update on the OW, hair is spikier kinda now :)

558122_DG January 27th, 2010 5:55 PM

any more comments?

well i have a few new things :D

http://i48.*.com/16i5lee.png

this is my second attempt at trainer spriting :D
my first is not worth posting


EDIT:

another fakemon that lack proper shading :(
http://i46.*.com/2n703g7.png
Ok i might change the head on this one :/

9/16 colours used btw.

More comments/critisim = More effort in work/ better (hopefully)

558122_DG January 28th, 2010 6:27 PM

unbelievable T_T. No more updates till i recieve some crit besides this:

http://i46.*.com/fdroxx.png

Pick your favourite.

blackmoonflower January 28th, 2010 6:57 PM

I like the first one more, it looks more like a battle sprite. Shading still needs work, though.

558122_DG January 28th, 2010 9:10 PM

K, Everyone likes the first one :P

Ok, I'm gonna check out a shading tut :)

*hint*pro spriters make a shading tut*hint*

Tropical Sunlight January 29th, 2010 5:22 AM

You should use custom colors instead of prefixed ones.
It should make your sprites look better.

558122_DG January 30th, 2010 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H2O Turquoise (Post 5507287)
You should use custom colors instead of prefixed ones.
It should make your sprites look better.

yea, kk. I donno what to make next :/

Professor W. January 30th, 2010 5:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 558122_DG (Post 5510323)
yea, kk. I donno what to make next :/

Perhaps you should make some more Fakemon. My advice for Fakemon is to think out-of-the-box so your designs can be noticed. Try relating it to actual animals and/or plants. For instance, I'm pretty sure nobody has thought of a Viperfish Fakemon yet *winks*.

~Professor W.

558122_DG January 31st, 2010 5:20 PM

http://i48.*.com/169l09j.png

Is this tadpole fakemon any good :)

I think I'm slowly getting the hang of shading :D
Also I made this for someone else so no stealing k?

ed00001 January 31st, 2010 5:25 PM

Wow, these are great! I'm pretty good at scratch spriting myself!

558122_DG February 1st, 2010 5:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed00001 (Post 5513950)
Wow, these are great! I'm pretty good at scratch spriting myself!


Thanks :D
I'll prolly make an evo for it so it doesn't look pathetic like dusparce.
Ummm any comments on the shading? is there improvement?
And for some reason I can't splice for beans or fusion sprite for that matter :P

Dhjona February 1st, 2010 6:07 AM

some of your lines in your tadpole aren't smoothly, to sharp-edged. shading looks ok.

558122_DG February 2nd, 2010 8:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhjona (Post 5514804)
some of your lines in your tadpole aren't smoothly, to sharp-edged. shading looks ok.

yea I noticed :/
But when I try fixing it, it takes away from the whole long thin and curvy look :/
If someone can fix it up and show me how its done that'd be great :D
I won't tkae ur sprite fix if u do decide to redo it, I just wanna see how it looks like.

On the lighter note, I scratched a bird preevo :D
Hope u like it (it's supposed to be cute XD)

http://i47.*.com/10r22v9.png

the one i'm using is pose 1, but pose 2 is just there :/

Dhjona February 2nd, 2010 2:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 558122_DG (Post 5517314)
yea I noticed :/
But when I try fixing it, it takes away from the whole long thin and curvy look :/
If someone can fix it up and show me how its done that'd be great :D
I won't tkae ur sprite fix if u do decide to redo it, I just wanna see how it looks like.

On the lighter note, I scratched a bird preevo :D
Hope u like it (it's supposed to be cute XD)

http://i47.*.com/10r22v9.png

the one i'm using is pose 1, but pose 2 is just there :/


Well, i fixed up your sharp-edged lines. ;)
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8605/smoothly.png

On the left side you see your sprite and among them you see, in red, how the line supposed to be. On the right you see the result and a explanation of how I did the lines and how it's supposed to be (the red lines, are your lines, which aren't right. And the green ones are the right way to make that line.) ;)

Your bird indeed, is cute, but to front and to simple. And has sharp-edged lines (maybe you intended it that way, if so, I appologize). ^^

ed00001 February 2nd, 2010 3:01 PM

It's very squarish, and looks very 2D. I like the tadpole though

558122_DG February 2nd, 2010 3:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhjona (Post 5518220)
Well, i fixed up your sharp-edged lines. ;)
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8605/smoothly.png

On the left side you see your sprite and among them you see, in red, how the line supposed to be. On the right you see the result and a explanation of how I did the lines and how it's supposed to be (the red lines, are your lines, which aren't right. And the green ones are the right way to make that line.) ;)

Your bird indeed, is cute, but to front and to simple. And has sharp-edged lines (maybe you intended it that way, if so, I appologize). ^^

:o I see. Thnx :D

As for the bird I'm not quite sure what you mean by front and simple :/
but the sharp lines were intended a trait it carries after evolution :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed00001 (Post 5518298)
It's very squarish, and looks very 2D. I like the tadpole though


Um, k. Thanks and I'll see if i can fix the sharpness abit :/
I guess no one likes the adventures of baby eagle :/

ed00001 February 2nd, 2010 3:18 PM

Oh.. It's supposed to be square. But it should be on more of an angle.

countryemo February 2nd, 2010 3:27 PM

Hey, you're doing great, tadpole looks nice, same with the baby eagle, which can use some work?
Keep on going.

From friend to friend,
`countryemo

558122_DG February 2nd, 2010 3:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed00001 (Post 5518357)
Oh.. It's supposed to be square. But it should be on more of an angle.

:o . And y must it always be at an angle :/

Quote:

Originally Posted by countryemo (Post 5518375)
Hey, you're doing great, tadpole looks nice, same with the baby eagle, which can use some work?
Keep on going.

From friend to friend,
`countryemo

Lol, kk. Oh and i got a beta for u to test XD

ed00001 February 2nd, 2010 5:09 PM

So it looks more Poke'mon-ish
pokemon-ized
pokemon-like

Chipdachimchar February 2nd, 2010 11:26 PM

Your getting really good :0

558122_DG February 3rd, 2010 3:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chipdachimcha (Post 5519368)
Your getting really good :0

I hope so :D
I'm gonna get lessons from ma pal darth :)

558122_DG February 11th, 2010 2:47 PM

Guess I haven't been spriting lately but here is something I did today :)

http://i47.*.com/ei61bo.png

I would say it took me 10 mins to make so....not really 100% good

BlankPoints February 11th, 2010 6:14 PM

no please, these fakemon need WORK, you can change the head for the trainer

558122_DG February 11th, 2010 6:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trask3000 (Post 5543516)
no please, these fakemon need WORK, you can change the head for the trainer

Yes I know they need work, I've haven't sprited for about 1 1/2 weeks now, I'm not very experienced or god for that matter, but I hope to learn. The trainer is discontinued also can you be more specific when you say work, what needs work hopefully not the shading again...

558122_DG February 14th, 2010 7:03 PM

update:

http://i50.*.com/2n67qsp.png


&

http://i47.*.com/osvgh0.jpg
this is not for public use.

Conan Edogawa February 15th, 2010 7:27 AM

I noticed to problems that are reoccurring in your sprites. First, you use black too often. Black should only be used as an outline at the darkest part of the sprite. On several of your sprites you have it right next to a light shade making the contrast between colors noticeable and unattractive. Secondly, Your palettes aren't the best. Try looking at a pokemon sprites palette and compare it to yours. From there you should be able to see some differences.

The shading is off on a few but it isn't as noticeable as the mistakes I pointed out earlier. I really like your concepts and your line art is great for a beginner you just need to work on the above.

558122_DG February 15th, 2010 7:43 AM

Thank you, Conan Edogawa, believe it or not , darths told me the exact same thing unfortunately I tend to use the default Microsoft Paint pallettes. The shading on the older ones are very off I know, I was however hoping that it was better on the newer ones :/
thanks, I will look into the matter further in the future :)

Conan Edogawa February 15th, 2010 8:47 AM

The new OWs have nice shading but the older fakemon do need work. If you have trouble with palettes then try using palettes from existing Pokemon sprites. That's what I did when I first started scratching because I had the same problem.

558122_DG February 17th, 2010 3:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conan Edogawa (Post 5553945)
The new OWs have nice shading but the older fakemon do need work. If you have trouble with palettes then try using palettes from existing Pokemon sprites. That's what I did when I first started scratching because I had the same problem.

Ok, I tried taking your advice and sprited a really punny Pre-evo.

http://i45.*.com/ev8j1x.png

I tried custom pallettes instead of MS Paint default colours, improvements?

Spherical Ice February 17th, 2010 4:34 PM

Uhm, dude, that is FAAAAAR too small. Honestly, how do you expect anyone to remember that Pokémon.
Picture this conversation (hypothetical, ofc):
"Dude 1: I can name all 549 Pokémon!
1. Bulbasaur, 2. Ivysaur...25. Pikachu...100. Voltorb, (etc.), 549. ???!

Dude 2: What about [midget mon]?
Dude 1: Wha?"

It's got no memorable features, or anything. I' guessing it's Dragon type, but even that is vague. It's hard to crtisise the sprite as it's too small. If someone advised you to sprite smaller, they're either wrong, if they told you to do so at that extreme, or you took their advice to an extreme.

558122_DG February 17th, 2010 4:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Master (Post 5560968)
Uhm, dude, that is FAAAAAR too small. Honestly, how do you expect anyone to remember that Pokémon.
Picture this conversation (hypothetical, ofc):
"Dude 1: I can name all 549 Pokémon!
1. Bulbasaur, 2. Ivysaur...25. Pikachu...100. Voltorb, (etc.), 549. ???!

Dude 2: What about [midget mon]?
Dude 1: Wha?"

It's got no memorable features, or anything. I' guessing it's Dragon type, but even that is vague. It's hard to crtisise the sprite as it's too small. If someone advised you to sprite smaller, they're either wrong, if they told you to do so at that extreme, or you took their advice to an extreme.

I thought it was too small as well :/
I like the story/example, however cause it's so small ppl remember it :D

edit:
resized it in paint. sprited it over again.

Gave it the ability to grow :D

http://i48.*.com/j660d2.png

Spherical Ice February 17th, 2010 4:56 PM

Well, whilst I'm, here, I might's well crit your other sprites; I'll do everything on the first post.

Oh, and small is an understatement for that sprite, seriously.

You don't like splashing far from 30x30 pixels, do you? It seems that that's the case. Not only is this sprite small - fortunately not as small as midget-mon up there - but it's monotoned. It's just brown. With, like, two pixels of blue. Again, it's got no memorable features or a real definition of whatever it's based on - I got baby dragon, but even that is inspecific (if that's a word). The pose of this fake is very two-dimensional and generic; it look like it was flatenned in it's sleep or something. I can hardly identify any shading at all, really, which is bad.
This would be more suitable for a basic-stage Pokémon, rather than the one above. The orientation of this sprite is improved from before, at least, and it does have some, slighlty unique features, like a magnet tail... presuming that is a magnet tail. Again, the palette is monotoned and, although I am guilty of this, it reuses the palette of it's prevolution, which is pretty unprofessional. The outline for the tail of this Pokémon is really choppy and looks really rigid and out-of-place. It looks pasted on. Furthermore, it seems you attempted to portray the underbelly as a furry spot, but it just appears as a spiky, hard surface. The face is also very... dull, to say the least. At least it's an improvement from it's prevolution.I'm guessing there are three versions of this sprite, each aiming to get a better orientation, of which it is facing the opponent, however it appears that none of these do that. The first one looks like another one that was ironed in it's sleep, where it was laid in a very uninteresting way. If anything, this looks like a realisticified (again, I doubt that's a word, but I assume you know what I mean) version of a shiny Sandshrew. Sprited badly. From what I see, you've used far too much extensive dithering, in unnecassary places, and it's really not needed much. At all. Dithering is hardly ever needed, anyway, except for when a palette forces too drastic a contrast between shades. Try not to overuse it in future.

It's almost 1 a.m in the morning here, and I looking at my monitor through half-opened eyes, so I'll probably post again later on in the day (almost said tomorrow), when I'm awake. Unless I forget.

Anyway, I hope I've helped a bit; I think I may have been slightly too harsh at times, and I apologize for that; I have nothing against you - all of my crit is from an artistic point of view, the reliability of that, however, tends to vary.

558122_DG February 17th, 2010 5:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Master (Post 5561053)
Well, whilst I'm, here, I might's well crit your other sprites; I'll do everything on the first post.

Oh, and small is an understatement for that sprite, seriously.

You don't like splashing far from 30x30 pixels, do you? It seems that that's the case. Not only is this sprite small - fortunately not as small as midget-mon up there - but it's monotoned. It's just brown. With, like, two pixels of blue. Again, it's got no memorable features or a real definition of whatever it's based on - I got baby dragon, but even that is inspecific (if that's a word). The pose of this fake is very two-dimensional and generic; it look like it was flatenned in it's sleep or something. I can hardly identify any shading at all, really, which is bad.
This would be more suitable for a basic-stage Pokémon, rather than the one above. The orientation of this sprite is improved from before, at least, and it does have some, slighlty unique features, like a magnet tail... presuming that is a magnet tail. Again, the palette is monotoned and, although I am guilty of this, it reuses the palette of it's prevolution, which is pretty unprofessional. The outline for the tail of this Pokémon is really choppy and looks really rigid and out-of-place. It looks pasted on. Furthermore, it seems you attempted to portray the underbelly as a furry spot, but it just appears as a spiky, hard surface. The face is also very... dull, to say the least. At least it's an improvement from it's prevolution.I'm guessing there are three versions of this sprite, each aiming to get a better orientation, of which it is facing the opponent, however it appears that none of these do that. The first one looks like another one that was ironed in it's sleep, where it was laid in a very uninteresting way. If anything, this looks like a realisticified (again, I doubt that's a word, but I assume you know what I mean) version of a shiny Sandshrew. Sprited badly. From what I see, you've used far too much extensive dithering, in unnecassary places, and it's really not needed much. At all. Dithering is hardly ever needed, anyway, except for when a palette forces too drastic a contrast between shades. Try not to overuse it in future.

It's almost 1 a.m in the morning here, and I looking at my monitor through half-opened eyes, so I'll probably post again later on in the day (almost said tomorrow), when I'm awake. Unless I forget.

Anyway, I hope I've helped a bit; I think I may have been slightly too harsh at times, and I apologize for that; I have nothing against you - all of my crit is from an artistic point of view, the reliability of that, however, tends to vary.

Actually I wouldn't have considered that harsh at all I've recieved worse. Yea the lizard not even looking/ignoring you was a pretty pathetic fakemon. However the pre-evo was scratched in less than 7 mins, so I was expecting something like that :/. The middle one is my very first believe it or not, for some reason I got worse after a while :/

well I resized mini-mon I was actually considering naming him that.

thanks for the crit I appreciate it.

ps.Mini sprites= awesome, cause they make ppl think they need glasses.

558122_DG February 18th, 2010 7:54 PM

I'm sorry, the master, I am very stubborn and don't learn till someone yells at me :P

http://i45.*.com/10pt7vc.png
you might want a magnefiying glass, but it's my new sprite :D

558122_DG February 22nd, 2010 3:44 AM

http://i50.*.com/2uhb8g6.png
I would like everyone to meet Mr.blob :)
I made him to practice shading, so I would like only the shading to be up for critic.


EDIT: yes I know about the black outline, I just lost the purpose/idea of making that work :/


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