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Andyb4325 April 26th, 2010 2:26 PM

its interesting i mean they might even thought of that too and maybe what this one is all about. we just need more details on the game then how the new pokemon evolves into the other new (the z team).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 26th, 2010 2:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyb4325 (Post 5753847)
its interesting i mean they might even thought of that too and maybe what this one is all about. we just need more details on the game then how the new pokemon evolves into the other new (the z team).

that's very true, i think most of us can wait for that information, what we really want to know is the new region's geography, the amount of new mon's ,the name of the region, and some new pokemon.

Andyb4325 April 26th, 2010 2:32 PM

the only thing i find stupid so far is that the female character looks anarexic to me.

Hamilton April 26th, 2010 2:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5753859)
that's very true, i think most of us can wait for that information, what we really want to know is the new region's geography, the amount of new mon's ,the name of the region, and some new pokemon.

at this point all i want to know is the name of the new region
OH and the starters :)

Spikey-Eared Pichu April 26th, 2010 2:35 PM

Okay, Lugia does not represent the Moon. If the anime is canon at all, Lugia controls the globe's ocean currents and has power over Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres. Ho-Oh does not represent the Sun. Ho-Oh represents rebirth, bring modeled after a phoenix, and rainbows.

Giratina doesn't represent death. D/P screwed that up in its PokeDex entry. Giratina represents anti-matter, completing the triad with Dialga and Palkia. The reason for its Ghost-subtype is because Ghosts don't follow the laws of physics.

Anyways...The idea of a Pokemon that represents Fate is intriguing. Possible a humanoid Pokemon holding scales in one hand and a sword in the other. Steel/Psychic or Dark/Psychic, maybe?

What about a Pokemon that represents the cycle of life? Imagine a Pokemon that is a child during the Morning (3 a.m.-11:59 a.m.) and is pure Normal or pure Psychic, an adult in the Afternoon (12 p.m.-6:59 p.m.) and is Fighting/Psychic, and an old man at Night (7 p.m.-2:59 a.m.) and is Dark/Psychic or pure Dark. It's typing and statistic would change through out the day. In the Morning, its stats would be all around average, like Mew or Jirachi, in the Day its Attack and Special Attack would be higher and it would have good speed, similar to Speed Deoxys, and at Night it would have high defense and Special Defense with greater HP, like Giratina Altered Forme.

Thoughts?

Zirkle38 April 26th, 2010 2:39 PM

(Imo)I personally don't think GameFreak should go to far into religious stuff (seven deadly sins). People that aren't Christian might feel uncomfortable, and strict Christian parents might not like that their kids are being... exposed to that.
I honestly have a hard time believing one Pokemon controls the 'destiny' of everyone in the Pokemon world. I think Pokemon should stick with more believable things, like being the Champion of Johto, and no one in Kanto knowing who you are, or a mouse that electrocutes people, but still not being lethal. Okay, so maybe Pokemon isn't that believable, but I still think you guys should reign it in a little. If you're talking about good/bad karma stuff, then they're should probably be two. Maybe. (/Imo)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 26th, 2010 2:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyb4325 (Post 5753865)
the only thing i find stupid so far is that the female character looks anarexic to me.

you can tell that from a sprite... well people said the same about gold so maybe they have something for anerixic's...na, i'm just joking:P well in japan most people are quite skinny at least those i have seen.
I hope this region's has lots of islands you can travel too, actually the ideal place with lot's of small islands surrounding it is shikoku which is this here;, just add parts of honshu to it to make it bigger and it will fit my vision for the region i desire.

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Originally Posted by Zirkle38 (Post 5753888)
(Imo)I personally don't think GameFreak should go to far into religious stuff (seven deadly sins). People that aren't Christian might feel uncomfortable, and strict Christian parents might not like that their kids are being... exposed to that.
I honestly have a hard time believing one Pokemon controls the 'destiny' of everyone in the Pokemon world. I think Pokemon should stick with more believable things, like being the Champion of Johto, and no one in Kanto knowing who you are, or a mouse that electrocutes people, but still not being lethal. Okay, so maybe Pokemon isn't that believable, but I still think you guys should reign it in a little. If you're talking about good/bad karma stuff, then they're should probably be two. Maybe. (/Imo)

well a pokemon that controls everyone's destiny is the only thing i can think of that can match Arceus,in a way... oh wait we still need a omega pokemon...

Zirkle38 April 26th, 2010 2:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikey-Eared Pichu (Post 5753879)
Okay, Lugia does not represent the Moon. If the anime is canon at all, Lugia controls the globe's ocean currents and has power over Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres. Ho-Oh does not represent the Sun. Ho-Oh represents rebirth, bring modeled after a phoenix, and rainbows.

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What about a Pokemon that represents the cycle of life? Imagine a Pokemon that is a child during the Morning (3 a.m.-11:59 a.m.) and is pure Normal or pure Psychic, an adult in the Afternoon (12 p.m.-6:59 p.m.) and is Fighting/Psychic, and an old man at Night (7 p.m.-2:59 a.m.) and is Dark/Psychic or pure Dark. It's typing and statistic would change through out the day. In the Morning, its stats would be all around average, like Mew or Jirachi, in the Day its Attack and Special Attack would be higher and it would have good speed, similar to Speed Deoxys, and at Night it would have high defense and Special Defense with greater HP, like Giratina Altered Forme.

Thoughts?

Well, if you think about it, the Moon controls the oceans, Lugia controls the oceans, so Lugia might not represent the moon, but there are some parallels. And Ho-oh, to me, parallels the Sun in the rainbow-y way. If there was no Sun, there'd be no rainbows. So they might not 'represent' the Sun and Moon, but you can see how they're similar.

I like the idea of a time-based aging Pokemon. I think the form changing should be more controlled, though. Because what if you're in the middle of a battle? Would it change mid-battle? Well, probably not, but there would be some obstacles. And what about movesets? If it changes type the moves would be messed up. Maybe. I could be wrong though, because Arceas with his plates causes some contradictions. Or maybe not, I didn't really get into the legends of DPPt.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 26th, 2010 2:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zirkle38 (Post 5753930)
Well, if you think about it, the Moon controls the oceans, Lugia controls the oceans, so Lugia might not represent the moon, but there are some parallels. And Ho-oh, to me, parallels the Sun in the rainbow-y way. If there was no Sun, there'd be no rainbows. So they might not 'represent' the Sun and Moon, but you can see how they're similar.

I like the idea of a time-based aging Pokemon. I think the form changing should be more controlled, though. Because what if you're in the middle of a battle? Would it change mid-battle? Well, probably not, but there would be some obstacles. And what about movesets? If it changes type the moves would be messed up. Maybe. I could be wrong though, because Arceas with his plates causes some contradictions. Or maybe not, I didn't really get into the legends of DPPt.

you just stated the reason's for why i said that about lugia and Ho-oh:P.
for a pokemon that ages we could have it hold a item like the morning stone(plate,ect.), the night stone,ect. to control it's forms, if it doesn't have them then it just changes on time like sky shaymin returns back to land shaymin at night.

Andyb4325 April 26th, 2010 2:57 PM

i do though want to see more dark and fire there are so few and not very good moves in some. i also think they should make the game a little harder and longer. i would like to see a dark gym there hasnt been one yet.

Bloothump April 26th, 2010 2:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5753890)

well a pokemon that controls everyone's destiny is the only thing i can think of that can match Arceus,in a way... oh wait we still need a omega pokemon...

Just because it's a new region doesn't mean the legendaries have to surpass the old ones. In fact, I'd prefer if they didn't. I don't want to think of one pokemon controling the world. The title is "legendary" not "godly". I think you guys are taking it too far. I'm guessing it will just be a Yin/yang pairing, and they'll talk a lot about the balance of good and evil. I don't want some strange mecha-human angel to be a legendary, I want a rare creature. Pokemon are creatures.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 26th, 2010 3:01 PM

speaking of moves i though of one, i call it Aqua palm it looks like force palm but it thrusts leathal water drops at the opponent. As for fire moves we could have solar flame, a large spinning attack of fire that takes two turns , if sunny day isn't active, and causes damage of 110 and has a high critical hit ratio.

Bloothump April 26th, 2010 3:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyb4325 (Post 5753963)
i do though want to see more dark and fire there are so few and not very good moves in some. i also think they should make the game a little harder and longer. i would like to see a dark gym there hasnt been one yet.

Lion Pokemon with a fire mane.
dark/fire
bet we'll see it.

Andyb4325 April 26th, 2010 3:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5753967)
Just because it's a new region doesn't mean the legendaries have to surpass the old ones. In fact, I'd prefer if they didn't. I don't want to think of one pokemon controling the world. The title is "legendary" not "godly". I think you guys are taking it too far. I'm guessing it will just be a Yin/yang pairing, and they'll talk a lot about the balance of good and evil. I don't want some strange mecha-human angel to be a legendary, I want a rare creature. Pokemon are creatures.

he wasnt talking about surpassing god (acreus) that wouldnt be right, he meant like something pulls you to what you want,

Bloothump April 26th, 2010 3:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5753975)
speaking of moves i though of one, i call it Aqua palm it looks like force palm but it thrusts leathal water drops at the opponent. As for fire moves we could have solar flame, a large spinning attack of fire that takes two turns , if sunny day isn't active, and causes damage of 110 and has a high critical hit ratio.

That's too much like solar beam, which a lot of fire-types can learn anyway.
Actually, it's exactly the same, just with a different type.

Andyb4325 April 26th, 2010 3:07 PM

Lion Pokemon with a fire mane.
dark/fire
bet we'll see it.[/QUOTE]

that would an awsome starter fire/dark lion

Bloothump April 26th, 2010 3:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyb4325 (Post 5753982)
he wasnt talking about surpassing god (acreus) that wouldnt be right, he meant like something pulls you to what you want,

He said "that can match arceus" which to me sounds like that can be as powerful or as significant as arceus. I understand what the pokemon's theme is.

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Originally Posted by Andyb4325 (Post 5753996)
Lion Pokemon with a fire mane.
dark/fire
bet we'll see it.

that would an awsome starter fire/dark lion[/QUOTE]

I've created some pokemon, and that was the fire starter in my line.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 26th, 2010 3:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5753967)
Just because it's a new region doesn't mean the legendaries have to surpass the old ones. In fact, I'd prefer if they didn't. I don't want to think of one pokemon controling the world. The title is "legendary" not "godly". I think you guys are taking it too far. I'm guessing it will just be a Yin/yang pairing, and they'll talk a lot about the balance of good and evil. I don't want some strange mecha-human angel to be a legendary, I want a rare creature. Pokemon are creatures.

not all pokemon are creatures just look at chimecho, voltorb,koffing, rotom, muk, actually lot's of gen 1's pokemon were inanimate objects... also a yin and yang pairing isn't new they have been doing opposites since gold and silver, sky(sun) and sea (moon), land and sea, latios and latias which represent opposing genders, time and space, plus Hoenn actually looks like a yin and yang sign, don't believe me look at a map of Hoenn for some time and you will see it, hey maybe this can be used as a hint for Hoenn remakes...

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5753988)
That's too much like solar beam, which a lot of fire-types can learn anyway.
Actually, it's exactly the same, just with a different type.

wrong the move has a base attack of 110 not 120 plus solar beam doesn't have a high critical rate oh and i forgot to mention it can burn the opponent and besides even if it was look at the elemental punches and the elemental fangs.

Andyb4325 April 26th, 2010 3:12 PM

well before he wasnt talking about matching him, i didnt see it when he put that

Bloothump April 26th, 2010 3:13 PM

Well all the legends since johto have been opposites. By Yin Yang I mean the more obvious good/evil aspect and the importance of both, how without evil there would be no good(edit) etc. etc. And although they're based off inanimate objects, they're still living creatures. I don't want to see anything too humane looking, other than say Mr. Mime or Jynx.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 26th, 2010 3:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5753997)
He said "that can match arceus" which to me sounds like that can be as powerful or as significant as arceus. I understand what the pokemon's theme is.



that would an awsome starter fire/dark lion

I've created some pokemon, and that was the fire starter in my line.[/QUOTE]by matching i meant in importance not in power, you know like groudon is as important as ho-oh but ho-oh is stronger, wait that's not a good example but you know what i mean. I want a pokemon that can near the dragon's in importance atleast.

Andyb4325 April 26th, 2010 3:19 PM

i think they should add some new types, they havent since johto. i also think it would be cool to see a grass/physic and water/ghost, or something like that

Bloothump April 26th, 2010 3:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5754029)
I've created some pokemon, and that was the fire starter in my line.

by matching i meant in importance not in power, you know like groudon is as important as ho-oh but ho-oh is stronger, wait that's not a good example but you know what i mean. I want a pokemon that can near the dragon's in importance atleast.[/QUOTE]

That's what I mean by "significant". It's the same as "important".
And I don't think we need any more significance, we're going over board.
We have a pokemon god, for pete's sake, that's too far!
So let's reverse. We have plenty of untouched legendary ideas, but if we're hung up on making the next one better, then these ideas get wasted.

That's why I think we'll see a fire lion pokemon this time around.

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Originally Posted by Andyb4325 (Post 5754043)
i think they should add some new types, they havent since johto. i also think it would be cool to see a grass/physic and water/ghost, or something like that

I think there's a reason for that, new types would be redundant.
Amd there is a grass/psychic, his name is eggsecutor, and he's awesome.
And a Gost/Water could be some sort of sunken ship type thing.

SIN1488 April 26th, 2010 3:26 PM

How about this one. In the new game, you beat the Elite 4 like always and become the new champion of this region after beating the old one. Now I know they can't throw all the regions themselves into the game, but why not throw in some sidequests after becoming champion. Then after you complete those, you are sent to the "Champion's Hall" or something, and face what is basically an Elite 4 composed of the champions from the other regions. And maybe you face like a "Grandmaster Champion" after that or something, that can be ridiculously difficult.

I just want a real challenge in the game, Red in HG/SS is difficult for me right now, but I don't have one pokemon that is lvl 70 yet. So it would be cool if it was a real difficult challenge even if all your pokemon are at the same level or a little above.

Andyb4325 April 26th, 2010 3:27 PM

well we have actually had a fire lion, entei. i know some say their their dogs, but say their lions. but i think it would be cool to see a lion with a fire mane

i said that a long time ago i would love to see all regions on a game but not enough space :(


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