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Bloothump April 26th, 2010 3:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyb4325 (Post 5754069)
well we have actually had a fire lion, entei. i know some say their their dogs, but say their lions. but i think it would be cool to see a lion with a fire mane

I deffinetely see more parallels with wolves than lions with the dogs. Because lions are lazy and sleep like 3/4 of their lives away and make the females hunt for them. They're more like "lone wolves". Extremely fast, trekking all over, etc. etc.

Andyb4325 April 26th, 2010 3:33 PM

i know i think their more like dogs too but people have speculations of the them being lions. i mean their called the legendary dogs

Bloothump April 26th, 2010 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SIN1488 (Post 5754062)
How about this one. In the new game, you beat the Elite 4 like always and become the new champion of this region after beating the old one. Now I know they can't throw all the regions themselves into the game, but why not throw in some sidequests after becoming champion. Then after you complete those, you are sent to the "Champion's Hall" or something, and face what is basically an Elite 4 composed of the champions from the other regions. And maybe you face like a "Grandmaster Champion" after that or something, that can be ridiculously difficult.

I just want a real challenge in the game, Red in HG/SS is difficult for me right now, but I don't have one pokemon that is lvl 70 yet. So it would be cool if it was a real difficult challenge even if all your pokemon are at the same level or a little above.

I like this idea a lot. It's actually plausible. I want to see a bunch of sidequests with actual stories, and along the way you meet a bunch of the champions. Eventually you could meet Cynthia or something, and she could give you a plane ticket that takes you to the island where the Champion's Hall. It's be really cool!

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Originally Posted by Andyb4325 (Post 5754095)
i know i think their more like dogs too but people have speculations of the them being lions. i mean their called the legendary dogs

Well for one, lions are cats.
And I know their builds are more hefty than wolves, but keep in mind the first two regions were more abstract with the animals they were mimicking.

Waffle-San April 26th, 2010 5:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5754097)
I like this idea a lot. It's actually plausible. I want to see a bunch of sidequests with actual stories, and along the way you meet a bunch of the champions. Eventually you could meet Cynthia or something, and she could give you a plane ticket that takes you to the island where the Champion's Hall. It's be really cool!

That sounds pretty awesome, and I'd be all for it but I think I'd still rather a Champions Tournament. You still have to beat the Elite 4 and Champion but then afterwards, you're invited to a Champion Tourney. (Maybe after you beat the Champions of other regions.) Basically it'd be a huge tournament held monthly or every once in awhile where you battle all the people who have beaten Champions around the world. In the first round you'd take on people who have Pokemon in the 60's-70's and with each round the levels would go up until the final where the final trainer would either have Pokemon in the high 90's or just maxed out at 100. Than you could really be the best in the world!!

Also I don't understand this whole, "Arceus was a god, how are they going to top it?" mentality. They made a god pokemon. So what? Are you trying to tell me there's only one "god" in our world? It really depends on your definition and beliefs? And frankly, did Ho-oh top Mewtwo? Did Shaymin top Jirachi or Celebi? It's all arbitrary. The legends all have their purpose and their purpose is not to top anyone else. And if anything, they could just make another god pokemon. =/

Edit: Doesn't say frankly as much. :P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 26th, 2010 6:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 5754367)
That sounds pretty awesome, and I'd be all for it but I think I'd still rather a Champions Tournament. You still have to beat the Elite 4 and Champion but then afterwards, you're invited to a Champion Tourney. (Maybe after you beat the Champions of other regions.) Basically it'd be a huge tournament held monthly or every once in awhile where you battle all the people who have beaten Champions around the world. In the first round you'd take on people who have Pokemon in the 60's-70's and with each round the levels would go up until the final where the final trainer would either have Pokemon in the high 90's or just maxed out at 100. Than you could really be the best in the world!!

Also I don't understand this whole, "Arceus was a god, how are they going to top it?" mentality. They made a god pokemon. So what? Are you trying to tell me there's only one "god" in our world? It really depends on your definition and beliefs? And frankly, did Ho-oh top Mewtwo? Did Shaymin top Jirachi or Celebi? Frankly, it's all arbitrary. The legends all have their purpose and their purpose is not to top anyone else. And if anything, they could just make another god pokemon. =/

true that's where i was getting with my god of destiny idea, it might not be a creator but it's powers are still pretty cool.

Waffle-San April 26th, 2010 6:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5754471)
true that's where i was getting with my god of destiny idea, it might not be a creator but it's powers are still pretty cool.

Haha sounds cool, the only thing I don't like about it, is to me it sounds like a psychic type, and I'd really like to avoid having another psychic legendary this time around.

Bloothump April 26th, 2010 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 5754367)
That sounds pretty awesome, and I'd be all for it but I think I'd still rather a Champions Tournament. You still have to beat the Elite 4 and Champion but then afterwards, you're invited to a Champion Tourney. (Maybe after you beat the Champions of other regions.) Basically it'd be a huge tournament held monthly or every once in awhile where you battle all the people who have beaten Champions around the world. In the first round you'd take on people who have Pokemon in the 60's-70's and with each round the levels would go up until the final where the final trainer would either have Pokemon in the high 90's or just maxed out at 100. Than you could really be the best in the world!!

Also I don't understand this whole, "Arceus was a god, how are they going to top it?" mentality. They made a god pokemon. So what? Are you trying to tell me there's only one "god" in our world? It really depends on your definition and beliefs? And frankly, did Ho-oh top Mewtwo? Did Shaymin top Jirachi or Celebi? It's all arbitrary. The legends all have their purpose and their purpose is not to top anyone else. And if anything, they could just make another god pokemon. =/

Edit: Doesn't say frankly as much. :P


I don't think you understood me. What I was saying was Arceus is the "god" pokemon, and I don't think it's right that pokemon took the legendaries that far. The legendaries started out as rare, ancient pokemon who were rumored to exist. It's gone from that to creators of the universe. That's too much imo. I don't think the legendaries should be god like, only powerful and rare. Backstories are, fine, but I don't want to catch god and put him in my pocket, that's almost disrespectful to me.

I was saying that since gen tres, pokemon has tried to make their legendaries more and more significant, I think that they need to make them less important now. They're pokemon, not creators or representations of the world. So I'm really hoping not to see something that controls my destiny in the next gen because that doesn't sound like a fantasy creature it sounds like a god, which pokemon should not be.
End rant.

SIN1488 April 26th, 2010 6:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5754537)

I was saying that since gen tres, pokemon has tried to make their legendaries more and more significant, I think that they need to make them less important now. They're pokemon, not creators or representations of the world. So I'm really hoping not to see something that controls my destiny in the next gen because that doesn't sound like a fantasy creature it sounds like a god, which pokemon should not be.
End rant.

I agree, just because it is considered the "god" pokemon, doesn't mean there can't be lesser legendaries that might even be more powerful.

And why not a rare one of a kind non-legendary pokemon that evolves into a legendary? Or something......

Where is GameFreaks official website so I can fill their email with my ideas? :D

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 26th, 2010 6:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5754537)
I don't think you understood me. What I was saying was Arceus is the "god" pokemon, and I don't think it's right that pokemon took the legendaries that far. The legendaries started out as rare, ancient pokemon who were rumored to exist. It's gone from that to creators of the universe. That's too much imo. I don't think the legendaries should be god like, only powerful and rare. Backstories are, fine, but I don't want to catch god and put him in my pocket, that's almost disrespectful to me.

I was saying that since gen tres, pokemon has tried to make their legendaries more and more significant, I think that they need to make them less important now. They're pokemon, not creators or representations of the world. So I'm really hoping not to see something that controls my destiny in the next gen because that doesn't sound like a fantasy creature it sounds like a god, which pokemon should not be.
End rant.

you shouldn't be offended by Arceus it's based on shintoism which is a religion with many gods and goddesses that represent the world so yeah the creators are japanese and want to use their countries culture to inspire their stories, Arceus isn't the Christian god, it's neither good or evil from what we have seen... it's just a Kami not god but Kami. the japanese belive in destiny like that red rope thing that ties lovers together,ect. so they might make one on it.

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Originally Posted by SIN1488 (Post 5754578)
I agree, just because it is considered the "god" pokemon, doesn't mean there can't be lesser legendaries that might even be more powerful.

And why not a rare one of a kind non-legendary pokemon that evolves into a legendary? Or something......

Where is GameFreaks official website so I can fill their email with my ideas? :D

wouldn't that be like the psuedo legendaries... and like i said it's not god as in Christiany, man westerners think everything revolves around them and their main religion, and this coming from a westerner... well i perfer eastern concept compared to western.
New topic (to bring us back on topic0: if the new region was in a diffrent country which country would you like it to be based on. i would personally like it if they made the new region based on South korea or china, or just continue on with japan.

Waffle-San April 26th, 2010 6:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5754537)
I don't think you understood me. What I was saying was Arceus is the "god" pokemon, and I don't think it's right that pokemon took the legendaries that far. The legendaries started out as rare, ancient pokemon who were rumored to exist. It's gone from that to creators of the universe. That's too much imo. I don't think the legendaries should be god like, only powerful and rare. Backstories are, fine, but I don't want to catch god and put him in my pocket, that's almost disrespectful to me.

I was saying that since gen tres, pokemon has tried to make their legendaries more and more significant, I think that they need to make them less important now. They're pokemon, not creators or representations of the world. So I'm really hoping not to see something that controls my destiny in the next gen because that doesn't sound like a fantasy creature it sounds like a god, which pokemon should not be.
End rant.

I wasn't really refferring to your comments, so sorry if you took it that way. The first paragraph was for you. :P Your comments above did lead me to think of that, but it's more arguments that other people have mentioned that I though I would put to bed.

I agree, I mean I don't mind legendaries having such big roles, I think it's kind of cool that Pokemon can paly such a vital role. But thus saying, I don't think it's nessecary. I've always liked the concept of "protectors" and things like that. I do actually love the 3rd gen legendaries but mainly because of the way their story was portrayed in Emerald. If Dialga, Palkia, Giratina and Arceus were given a better involvement in the story, like that of Emerald, I'd probably love them too!! I think the biggest mistake with Arceus, is they made a god pokemon yet gave it zero meaning in the game. It's just an annoying event. =/ Both these paragraphs were to you Bloothump. :P

Also, what Magmar is true...that not being really directed at anyone. :P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 26th, 2010 6:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 5754607)
I wasn't really refferring to your comments, so sorry if you took it that way. The first paragraph was for you. :P Your comments above did lead me to think of that, but it's more arguments that other people have mentioned that I though I would put to bed.

I agree, I mean I don't mind legendaries having such big roles, I think it's kind of cool that Pokemon can paly such a vital role. But thus saying, I don't think it's nessecary. I've always liked the concept of "protectors" and things like that. I do actually love the 3rd gen legendaries but mainly because of the way their story was portrayed in Emerald. If Dialga, Palkia, Giratina and Arceus were given a better involvement in the story, like that of Emerald, I'd probably love them too!! I think the biggest mistake with Arceus, is they made a god pokemon yet gave it zero meaning in the game. It's just an annoying event. =/

yeah it had no point, story wise... i even think darkrai had more of a story... the boy... Arceus isn't all that powerful if you think about it i know people who have beaten one.

Waffle-San April 26th, 2010 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5754619)
yeah it had no point, story wise... i even think darkrai had more of a story... the boy... Arceus isn't all that powerful if you think about it i know people who have beaten one.

Exactly!! That's why I don't find Heatran pointless at all. (Just having two mountain climbs in one game was probably a little much...) My only wish for 5th gen. legends is that their either all incorporated into the story or the plot has nothing to do with any of them.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 26th, 2010 7:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 5754628)
Exactly!! That's why I don't find Heatran pointless at all. (Just having two mountain climbs in one game was probably a little much...) My only wish for 5th gen. legends is that their either all incorporated into the story or the plot has nothing to do with any of them.

i like heatran it's quite powerful if you train it correctly, by all incorporated you mean all legendaries fit into a specific plot right and revolve around it... would that include the event legendaries...
I have been thinking you know how they put all the legendaries not avalible in DPPt in HG or SS well they would have to do that with MRSA when they come out you know how many legends will be in the hoenn remakes if the put all the legendaries from gen 1-4 in them... all i can say is that's a lot of legends.

Bloothump April 26th, 2010 7:55 PM

I wasn't exactly saying Arceus was any god in particular, just a god in general. I and many others seem to like the legendaries that are not the title or storyline based for 4th gen because they aren't so big and might and god-like, but more guardian like and rare and powerful. I find it strange that the post-pokemon league legendaries are so much more powerful than Dialga/Palkia/Giratina. In fact, I feel as if they butchered Giratina by making him a title pokemon. I remember catching him in Pearl at level 70, and I loved him. None of my friends even heard of him and I felt so BA. But then Platinum came along and he was so much weaker and less rare really. It felt kind of like when you like a song, but then it gets popular and everyone likes it.

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5754645)
i like heatran it's quite powerful if you train it correctly, by all incorporated you mean all legendaries fit into a specific plot right and revolve around it... would that include the event legendaries...
I have been thinking you know how they put all the legendaries not avalible in DPPt in HG or SS well they would have to do that with MRSA when they come out you know how many legends will be in the hoenn remakes if the put all the legendaries from gen 1-4 in them... all i can say is that's a lot of legends.

Well, by the time the Hoenn remakes come out the DS may be outdated, but they'll probably be a Pal Park like system if that's the case. You realize this is the first time two denerations and a remake have come out on the same system? That's awesome. If The 3rd gen remakes are made on the DS that will make it the most important handheld system to date in regards to pokemon and maybe even in Nintendo all together.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 26th, 2010 8:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5754736)
I wasn't exactly saying Arceus was any god in particular, just a god in general. I and many others seem to like the legendaries that are not the title or storyline based for 4th gen because they aren't so big and might and god-like, but more guardian like and rare and powerful. I find it strange that the post-pokemon league legendaries are so much more powerful than Dialga/Palkia/Giratina. In fact, I feel as if they butchered Giratina by making him a title pokemon. I remember catching him in Pearl at level 70, and I loved him. None of my friends even heard of him and I felt so BA. But then Platinum came along and he was so much weaker and less rare really. It felt kind of like when you like a song, but then it gets popular and everyone likes it.

I know people like that who like something until it's popular, i am also like that sometimes... maybe the reason your friends never heard of it was because of it's location...actually i want another pokemon like that only that, a legendary that's powerful but has a location that's hard to get to and this time it shouldn't be turn into the mascot of Grey or Rainbow,Brown,ect.

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5754736)
I wasn't exactly saying Arceus was any god in particular, just a god in general. I and many others seem to like the legendaries that are not the title or storyline based for 4th gen because they aren't so big and might and god-like, but more guardian like and rare and powerful. I find it strange that the post-pokemon league legendaries are so much more powerful than Dialga/Palkia/Giratina. In fact, I feel as if they butchered Giratina by making him a title pokemon. I remember catching him in Pearl at level 70, and I loved him. None of my friends even heard of him and I felt so BA. But then Platinum came along and he was so much weaker and less rare really. It felt kind of like when you like a song, but then it gets popular and everyone likes it.



Well, by the time the Hoenn remakes come out the DS may be outdated, but they'll probably be a Pal Park like system if that's the case. You realize this is the first time two denerations and a remake have come out on the same system? That's awesome. If The 3rd gen remakes are made on the DS that will make it the most important handheld system to date in regards to pokemon and maybe even in Nintendo all together.

yeah but they still put all those legendaries into HGSS despite the pal park...

SIN1488 April 26th, 2010 10:01 PM

I'm sure it's also been said before, but it would be nice to see some more alternate evolutions. These are good because it's a new evolved pokemon, but it doesn't affect the original evolution of that pokemon.

itistheriz April 26th, 2010 10:37 PM

I would love for the gyms to not be based on types, but rather themes.

You could have a beach gym for example, where the pokemon would range from water, ground, and flying.

Stan the man April 26th, 2010 10:42 PM

Difrent pikachu evo

Ha Ha ha
Joking
I hate that thing

Pokestick, good times. April 27th, 2010 3:38 AM

Uhm, when will the next Corocoro scans come out again, I'm kind of starting to get tired of waiting now >:3

Hm.. I'd like them to reuse some of their old Pkmn that has been overseen nowadays.. The Drowzee fam, tauros, Lickitung darn you GF!!!... Altho when looking at the post-national-dex evolutions introduced in DPPt, I'm kinda starting to not like that idea.. Which do you prefer, giving old favorites new evos, orletting them be so they still can have a pure space in our hearts?

SolarAbusoru April 27th, 2010 8:39 AM

CoroCoro's out in just under 2 weeks.....
and a Pokemon that controls Destiny, too overboard.

Mew~ April 27th, 2010 8:46 AM

Hey do any of you guys think that maybe these will be the last pokemon games for the DS and that the next games will be on the 3DS? Or do ya think 5th gen will stay on the ds?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 27th, 2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 5755545)
CoroCoro's out in just under 2 weeks.....
and a Pokemon that controls Destiny, too overboard.

Then it's a good thing i made a god of destiny in my story of gods...I like going overboard.
I would like to see a baby cattle pre evo for milktank and tarus, when i went to the moo moo farm and saw all those milktank i thought they look so big, they would look adorable if they had a preevo,the male's would have little horns.

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Originally Posted by Mew~ (Post 5755560)
Hey do any of you guys think that maybe these will be the last pokemon games for the DS and that the next games will be on the 3DS? Or do ya think 5th gen will stay on the ds?

i think they might really be the last games for the Ds, actually the reason i would buy these instead of waiting for the thrid version is that i don't want to buy a 3Ds if the thrid version is 3Ds only.Though i might buy one if the MRSA games are for the 3DS then maybe i should have waited for the thrid version...

Storm_has_formed April 27th, 2010 12:29 PM

Do you guys think that they will make another trio 5th gen? They did it every other gen, but they said they wanted to make a revolution in pokemon...

shot571 April 27th, 2010 12:32 PM

i think they probably will. i think they meant revolution gameplay wise but only nintendo and game freak know. now if only some gf person would lose a prototype of black and white :p (not referring to the iphone event :p)

Bloothump April 27th, 2010 12:53 PM

I remember reading somewhere this game is coming out on the DS. And the 3DS isn't coming out for another year or so I beleive, while this game is suspected to his America in the Fall or Winter.


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