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Is Gardevoir still a good pokemon?
In your opinion, do you think Gardevoir is a good pokemon to use?
I ask this because recently, she fell from UU to NU. I know that is based on usage, not power, but the reason for the drop in usage baffles me. Gardevoir is a popular pokemon, and is actually really good when used right, so I'm confused as to why people don't use her as much anymore. But, regardless, do you think Gardevoir is still a good pokemon to use, or do you think she should just be forgotten? Personally, I think Gardevoir is still a very good pokemon. She is my all-time favorite and a great part of my team. To me, its not how often a pokemon is used that determines its power, but rather if that pokemon is able to hold its own in battle. |
i used gardevior for my ruby version. i got through the 7th gym easily with her. really good special attack. i used about 3 calm minds and 1HKO'd solrock and lunatone with 2 shadow balls. since mine had trace, i had a huge advantage in that gym, considering tate and liza's use of earthquake
overall, gardevior has pretty good stats and should be used more in battles. |
When I first got Sapphire I caught a Ralts and evolved it into Gardevoir completely unaware of the outcome (had no idea Gardevoir exsisted.) I raised it to be about Lv.77 in Sapphire, falling in thrid only to my Lv.100 Kyogre an my Lv.85 Blaziken. Personally, I think Gardevoir is an excellent Pokemon to have, and is Espeon wasn't my first choice Psychic-Type, I'd definitly use Gradevoir more often.
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I caught my Ralts in Ruby back in 2004, I EV trained mine in Emerald, and it is a powerhouse in my Diamond version.
Weird, I've had my Gardevoir for six years D: |
Odd, I really like Gardevoir, appearance and battle wise. The reason why I never used her much was because I have Pokemons such as Alakazam, Metagross, Porygon-Z, Slowking, and Brozong.
Her movesets is really good; one could get Psychic three levels after evolving her. Plus, her base special atk. stats are particularly high. Hm, maybe it's just a phase? Gardevoir will probably return to the UU by next week or month. |
I haven't used a Gardevoir since the generation shift, so I don't really know. Plus the one I had in Sapphire wasn't really the best, horrible nature(because I didn't know what the natures were at the time and already had her at a high level when I did) and probably just bad stats in general. She was still part of my main team and all, but definitely wasn't my strongest. But then if I recall the E4 in RSE was not very friendly to psychics anyway (what was it, a ghost and dark trainer back to back? x-x)
And in DP I was more hyped about Gallade simply because it was new and "omg a melee psychic?" nevermind Medicham... or Metagross. Gardevoir was just kinda pushed to the side. But people still use them quite a bit from what I hear, so they're still good. |
Ever since Gallade came out I like him far better then Gardevoir.
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Gardevoir was a good Pokemon and still a good Pokemon but because of Gallade out, most people just wanted because it was cool-looking. IMO, Gardevoir has some nice movepool and a nice Sp.Atk stat.
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You remind me of myself with this question. But in the competitive battling world, a Pokemons tier can change when people figure out more common counters and such, and Gardevoir is now a VERY easy pokemon to counter when in UU. I felt the same way about a few Pokemon I used to use.
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Are you kidding me? Of course Gardevoir is still good! I've used her in every game since Sapphire. Usually use her for a mix of support and special attack. Helped me turn the tide in quite a few battles. Also, I usually don't go by tiers, I just use my favorites (no ubers though).
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Of course Gardevoir is still good I know she's outclassed by Azelf and a few other psychics but at least she's better than some aswell.
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It would be much better if it was a bit faster, and if Ralts didn't have a single digit encounter rate.
But yeah, it's pretty awesome as a special attacker otherwise. |
I daresay this belongs in Strategy and Movesets.
In a competitive sense, no, Gardevoir's pretty bad in the DPPt/HGSS metagame. HOWEVER, in-game and in an overall sense, Gardevoir is awesome. |
I wonder why Gardevoir is in the UU/NU tiers. Gardevoir should be used more in battling because of its high special attack and special defense. When I used to competitive battle, Gardevoir was my Tank and my Sweeper. I got so many wins with it, but when I started using another Pokemon instead, my wins got less frequent. That only shows the power of Gardevoir right there.
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It's still awesome ingame, but outside is another story. Lastly, correlation≠causation. But this is all what it seems like to me. |
I'd say so. Her main ability, Trace is still almost exclusive (with the other user being Porygon-Z's own counterpart, Porygon2) to just herself, and while she's by no means bulky, she still has more upper body strength then that frail old Alakazam or tiny little Azelf. Basically, she's a support, and of the subclasses, she works best as a healer/screener. In the words of a distant game, letting your healer take hits is a BAD IDEA, but so long as you keep her out of trouble (she can usually take glancing non-super effective blows), Gardevoir can make a great supporter, especially in real battling, where Wish Blissey is rarer then Arceus. She also works quite fine with Gallade, though Porygon2 might give better coverage to the knight.
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I use Ralts/Kirlia/Gardevoir every time I start a game in R/S/E, and I'm thinking of training up a Gardevoir in Platinum... So, I'd still use it even though it's NU... Then again, I don't give a damn about all this NU, UU, OU business.
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It's NU because, like Espeon, it's only popular with people who don't realize ~90% of Psychic-types have the same (or better) movepools with superior stats.
Plus, Gallade is now the better of the two evolutions. |
I think the reason Gardevoir is NU is because it can't even take a Pursuit from your basic lead dark types like Weavile. |
To be fair, I beat my HeartGold using a Male Combee.
It's really doesn't matter how good a Pokemon does ingame. It's TRUE potential is only realized when fighting against another player in competitive battling. Gardevoir sucks. There, I said it. It's easy to counter, and it's Speed is a let down compared to the likes of Alakazam and Azelf. Gardevoir is best suited to more defensive purposes, but still falls flat of being amazing even there(Crap HP and whatnot). Plus there are many other Psychic types that can do everything Gardevoir is capable of doing, only better. |
The reason why Gardevoir has dropped so much can be put into a small nut shell.
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Gardevoir is on my team and is second only to my lvl 100 Shiny Charizard. I got as a starter which is some extreme luck.
Gardevoir is basically my fail safe to any gym. Its just straight up beasting. |
To me, it's all about how you raise the Pokemon, not what Pokemon it is that makes it good. But, seeing as I like psychic Pokemon a lot, I said yes, it is still a good Pokemon.
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no, i never like gardevoir, mainly because i like speed, quick battle which gardevoir usually can not do. further more, gardevoir look like a ballroom female dancer even male exist, they make me think of a male jynx
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I personally think that Gardevoir is awesome. I have one in my Ruby file right now. She's really good in-game, and that's where she probably gets more use. It's great having a boss Psychic type early in the game that doesn't Teleport away/have to be traded away for those who can't for whatever reason/etc. I can see why she's outclassed by others in the metagame, though. And the fact that she doesn't do well against Pokemon like Weavile and Scizor with Pursuit. So, it all depends on what you want to play.
I don't do the metagame, so I'm fine with using Gardevoir and using my favorites even if they "suck" in most peoples' opinions. If I did play competitively, though, and actually tried, I probably would steer away from her as well. But, meh. I'm fine with playing favorites in-game for now. |
I think Gardevoir is a great pokemon, but there are a few psychic types that outbeat it. That's probably the reason why is isn't as popular anymore in competitive battling. Anyways as others have said Gardevoir is still a great in game pokemon. Once I discovered Gardevoir on Sapphire I started using it all the time.
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Gardevoir sucks?! You will rue the day you said that! Gardevoir is awesome! The guys who make the tier list are just idiots for not realizing this. My Gardevoir for instance, with the help of her teammates, she OHKOs Gengar, and has won me many battles, both in-game and over wi-fi. |
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Says it all, in game ANYTHING works, I've beat a game with a Butterfree before so yeah. Gardevior is ok, but in niche situations, like switching into Flareon/Poliwrath and using their own Flash Fire/Water Absorb abilities against them. Synchronize is okay too, but Gardy is so frail, it usually won't survive long enough to use them. Its Dual Screen ability is nice but its outclassed by every pokemon that isn't pure Psychic type (a.k.a. pursuit bait), and outclassed by several bulkier/faster/stronger pure Psychich types. It has its uses, but usually, they aren't overwhelmingly useful and won't make a game changing impact. The people who make the tiering list make it based on usage. Nothing is saying "no moar NU 'mons in teh OU teer dey are too bad oh noes111!!11" you can use any pokemon from a lower tier in a higher tier, but not vice versa. If you like it by all means use it, just make sure it has its counters in check and such. I just wouldn't reccomend it as a "go to guy" in any competative battle. |
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Competitively, Gardevoir sucks. It is an awesome Pokemon, yes, but it doesn't work so well in competitive battling in this overly offensive HGSS metagame. |
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Gardevoir is one of the most beautiful pokemon in the pokemon world. And it's still useful in battle (espically in emerald). Im also glad that they made a male counterpart of it because a male gardevoir is kinda creepy.
off topic: there is a need for a male counterpart of lopunny lol |
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Its her Speed, that is the real issue. What do you want to use, a Gardevior with Thunderbolt, or and Alakazam that can out run everything?
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