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Ayselipera February 10th, 2010 12:09 PM

I think Gardevoir is a great pokemon, but there are a few psychic types that outbeat it. That's probably the reason why is isn't as popular anymore in competitive battling. Anyways as others have said Gardevoir is still a great in game pokemon. Once I discovered Gardevoir on Sapphire I started using it all the time.

JTrainer February 18th, 2010 9:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunsparce (Post 5533845)
To be fair, I beat my HeartGold using a Male Combee.

It's really doesn't matter how good a Pokemon does ingame. It's TRUE potential is only realized when fighting against another player in competitive battling.

Gardevoir sucks. There, I said it. It's easy to counter, and it's Speed is a let down compared to the likes of Alakazam and Azelf. Gardevoir is best suited to more defensive purposes, but still falls flat of being amazing even there(Crap HP and whatnot). Plus there are many other Psychic types that can do everything Gardevoir is capable of doing, only better.


Gardevoir sucks?! You will rue the day you said that! Gardevoir is awesome! The guys who make the tier list are just idiots for not realizing this.

My Gardevoir for instance, with the help of her teammates, she OHKOs Gengar, and has won me many battles, both in-game and over wi-fi.

.Gamer February 18th, 2010 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunsparce (Post 5533845)
To be fair, I beat my HeartGold using a Male Combee.

It's really doesn't matter how good a Pokemon does ingame. It's TRUE potential is only realized when fighting against another player in competitive battling.

Gardevoir sucks. There, I said it. It's easy to counter, and it's Speed is a let down compared to the likes of Alakazam and Azelf. Gardevoir is best suited to more defensive purposes, but still falls flat of being amazing even there(Crap HP and whatnot). Plus there are many other Psychic types that can do everything Gardevoir is capable of doing, only better.


Says it all, in game ANYTHING works, I've beat a game with a Butterfree before so yeah.

Gardevior is ok, but in niche situations, like switching into Flareon/Poliwrath and using their own Flash Fire/Water Absorb abilities against them. Synchronize is okay too, but Gardy is so frail, it usually won't survive long enough to use them. Its Dual Screen ability is nice but its outclassed by every pokemon that isn't pure Psychic type (a.k.a. pursuit bait), and outclassed by several bulkier/faster/stronger pure Psychich types. It has its uses, but usually, they aren't overwhelmingly useful and won't make a game changing impact.

The people who make the tiering list make it based on usage. Nothing is saying "no moar NU 'mons in teh OU teer dey are too bad oh noes111!!11" you can use any pokemon from a lower tier in a higher tier, but not vice versa.

If you like it by all means use it, just make sure it has its counters in check and such. I just wouldn't reccomend it as a "go to guy" in any competative battle.

Ninja Caterpie February 18th, 2010 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JTrainer (Post 5564186)
Gardevoir sucks?! You will rue the day you said that! Gardevoir is awesome! The guys who make the tier list are just idiots for not realizing this.

My Gardevoir for instance, with the help of her teammates, she OHKOs Gengar, and has won me many battles, both in-game and over wi-fi.

OHKOing Gengar doesn't mean anything when Gengar outspeeds you and OHKOs you first with a Shadow Ball.

Competitively, Gardevoir sucks. It is an awesome Pokemon, yes, but it doesn't work so well in competitive battling in this overly offensive HGSS metagame.

.Gamer February 19th, 2010 8:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5564296)
OHKOing Gengar doesn't mean anything when Gengar outspeeds you and OHKOs you first with a Shadow Ball.

Competitively, Gardevoir sucks. It is an awesome Pokemon, yes, but it doesn't work so well in competitive battling in this overly offensive HGSS metagame.

What overly offensive metagame? Stall and semi-stall is being used more and more and completely over powers offensive teams.

GlitchCity February 20th, 2010 7:44 PM

Gardevoir is one of the most beautiful pokemon in the pokemon world. And it's still useful in battle (espically in emerald). Im also glad that they made a male counterpart of it because a male gardevoir is kinda creepy.

off topic: there is a need for a male counterpart of lopunny lol

Ninja Caterpie February 20th, 2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gamer691 (Post 5565040)


What overly offensive metagame? Stall and semi-stall is being used more and more and completely over powers offensive teams.

Shhhh...aren't you on my side?!

Eirikir February 21st, 2010 9:52 AM

Its her Speed, that is the real issue. What do you want to use, a Gardevior with Thunderbolt, or and Alakazam that can out run everything?


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