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FreakyLocz14 February 13th, 2010 12:32 PM

Should doing drugs be a crime?
 
Or should it be a disorder so that instead of locking up drug addicts when send them to rehab.

Feign February 13th, 2010 12:37 PM

Then first we'd have and want to question its source, I mean the addicts won't run out in numbers, but the drug sellers could make it better if they were all gone. I just wouldn't want to be paying someone's medical expenses for ODing on drugs and such (if that is the case, for Canadians). I'd think that locking them up would be a good deterrent from drugs though. XD

.little monster February 13th, 2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5547931)
Or should it be a disorder so that instead of locking up drug addicts when send them to rehab.

I want to point out something.

Almost all cases where a drug addict is being trialed for drug use or anything of that matter, they are giving the option of jail or rehab.

Most however choose jail, because there are ways to get the drugs they crave in jail

Dragma February 13th, 2010 2:45 PM

This is a hard one to answer, because there's all kinds of people that will try and play the "It's my body, I can do whatever I want" card.

Personally, I think it should be a crime. If someone does drugs (non-prescription of course) and they have negative side effects, they put society in danger of being harmed.

And yes, I do know that there's always a way for people to obtain them, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be repercussions for druggies.

blackwell February 13th, 2010 2:52 PM

Drug laws are absurd as a minarchist I believe victimless laws should be repealed. It isnt the governments job to parent individuals.

Algo Fonix February 13th, 2010 3:01 PM

Not in America. It costs a load of money to keep arresting and jailing people who are only hurting themselves. The country is broke, and quite frankly, the money could go towards other, more important things. You know, like our debt.

blackwell February 13th, 2010 3:07 PM

The fed has no constitutional authority to make drug laws hence the reason they ammended the constitution during prohibition.

JTF2General February 13th, 2010 6:49 PM

Some teens at my school got kicked outta my school cuz they did drugs. I say that we send em to rehab, then we put em in jail for a while.

Edit: Forgot to mention: they did the drugs at school.

Zet February 13th, 2010 6:56 PM

Considering the fact that doing drugs is illegal, I think it should be illegal.

Spinor February 13th, 2010 6:58 PM

I don't think it is physically possible to do an inanimate object...

Because doing drugs is not just a harm to self but to others possibly as well, it is very deserving to be a crime by which peopl should be locked up for.

Detox February 13th, 2010 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zet (Post 5549245)
Considering the fact that doing drugs is illegal, I think it should be illegal.

Yeah this post sorta sums up this thread...

Kishijoten February 13th, 2010 7:12 PM

The word "drug" already sounds like a crime but because so many people have or do drugs you can't stop them every second. So, what can you really do about it? blame the person who invented drugs?. Probably not but really it's their desicion if they wanted to do this type of crime and when they do they'll face the consquences so we shouldn't really worry about something we don't do.

blackwell February 13th, 2010 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AdvancedK47 (Post 5549256)
I don't think it is physically possible to do an inanimate object...

Because doing drugs is not just a harm to self but to others possibly as well, it is very deserving to be a crime by which peopl should be locked up for.

Yeah what a cop out. Also could you be any more vague. In what way would others be harmed?

Physically? Most violent crimes are commited stone cold sober.

Its no ones business what drugs someone uses.(Even for recreational purposes.)

.Gamer February 13th, 2010 9:23 PM

According to these guys it is against the law, and it was decided back then that addiction is not a disorder.

So yeah........

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Originally Posted by blackwell (Post 5549597)
Yeah what a cop out. Also could you be any more vague. In what way would others be harmed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackwell (Post 5549597)

Physically? Most violent crimes are commited stone cold sober.

Its no ones business what drugs someone uses.(Even for recreational purposes.)


Uh, they get high and drive a car, crash into a car and kill people (and/or injure).

And since it is illegal, it is the governments job. Thusly invalidating both your arguments.

Also @ Your even more above post, it is the governments job to parent the people when those people are incapable of making a decision for themselves (due to being under influences) or they make decisions that harm others. Under that logic, murderers shouldn't be punished because "they can do whatever they want."

DonRoyale February 14th, 2010 12:47 AM

I say, having never done anything, make marijuana legal and enforce everything else, including cigarettes.

Is my logic twisted? Yes. Do I care? No. Argue it all you want, I hate cigarettes and I don't mind weed so I wouldn't mind seeing the two take each other's places. :|

Miz en Scène February 14th, 2010 1:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feign (Post 5547946)
Then first we'd have and want to question its source, I mean the addicts won't run out in numbers, but the drug sellers could make it better if they were all gone. I just wouldn't want to be paying someone's medical expenses for ODing on drugs and such (if that is the case, for Canadians). I'd think that locking them up would be a good deterrent from drugs though. XD

Drug-sellers are hanged in Malaysia. To the government, their the root problem as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, I'm all for the rehab action on addicts.

Uecil February 14th, 2010 1:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zet (Post 5549245)
Considering the fact that doing drugs is illegal, I think it should be illegal.



hey that's exactly what i was gonna say... yeah i think dealing drugs should be illegal.

Edit: like Mr Macky from South Park says ' Don't do Drugs, m'kay? Drugs are Bad'

sorry had to add that to the mix :P

Virtual Chatot February 14th, 2010 6:12 AM

Dealing drugs should be illegal, doing drugs shouldn't be.

Prisons are full enough with murderers and white collar criminals who deserve to be in there.

blackwell February 14th, 2010 1:09 PM

Gamer put down the Kool Aid and listen.

DWI is a crime... so why not enforce it instead of making a preemptive attack on personal freedom?


The fed has no constitutional authority to ban drugs so by default it should be left to the states.

Saltare. February 14th, 2010 1:29 PM

I don't think so. It should have an age limit. Like drinking.

Because all these kids come to school smelling like weed.

blackwell February 14th, 2010 9:24 PM

Gamer I missed your straw man tirade on murder. When did I say you could do what you want? Your either very stupid or very dishonest.

Bay February 14th, 2010 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t.A.T.u (Post 5547994)
I want to point out something.

Almost all cases where a drug addict is being trialed for drug use or anything of that matter, they are giving the option of jail or rehab.

Most however choose jail, because there are ways to get the drugs they crave in jail

One way is by bringing a Boggle game. :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zet (Post 5549245)
Considering the fact that doing drugs is illegal, I think it should be illegal.

Hm, I thought I heard there are some countries that legalize the "bad" drugs or don't enforce the drug laws at least, but I think it also depends on the countries and which drugs are okay over there, so it varies.

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Originally Posted by Virtual Chatot (Post 5550317)
Dealing drugs should be illegal, doing drugs shouldn't be.

Prisons are full enough with murderers and white collar criminals who deserve to be in there.

If that is the case, how will the people be able to get it without resorting to underground? If doing drugs is fine, then there must be a means of a free competitive market where the people can buy drugs with no hassle. Making something illegal sets a limit on something and can't be bypassed (how people are able to find loopholes and such though is another story).

Anyways, I know at least in my country drug laws are enforced, so pretty much it's a crime no matter what. Part of the reason why I'm okay with that is because it's one way to make easy money, which can leave huge consequences on the drug user, the drug seller, anyone connected to them, etc.

Luck February 14th, 2010 11:16 PM

Many people are arrested simply for possessing it. There isn't any evidence left in the body that the person smoked it with the exclusion of marijuana.
I think that people should have the right to do what they want with their body if they are fully aware of what they are doing.

FreakyLocz14 February 14th, 2010 11:33 PM

Well I'm a bit on conservative side and I think drugs are harmful to people. We should offer subsidized rehabilitation services to people with severe addictions that are an immediate health risk but I it shouldn't be a crime because they are addicted.

Cases that are that really life threatening can see people being civilly commited.

P.S.
The federal government actually does have authority in drug crimes anytime the substances cross state lines.

Virtual Chatot February 15th, 2010 4:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bay Alexison (Post 5553282)
If that is the case, how will the people be able to get it without resorting to underground? If doing drugs is fine, then there must be a means of a free competitive market where the people can buy drugs with no hassle. Making something illegal sets a limit on something and can't be bypassed (how people are able to find loopholes and such though is another story).

Legalize, tax it, and then sell it in pharmacies then.


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