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Pokemon's ratings go up. Somehow.
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Bear with me the misspelling of the show and that it mentions the long dead CrushZone block. So even at 7AM EST it's still gaining in ratings somehow. No thanks to the people who watch the episodes on YouTube of course. |
I guess these figures laugh at the nostalgic nay-sayers who say that the anime's popularity has been constantly falling since the 'golden age' of the anime
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To bad this WILL NOT stop mentally retarded Cartoon Network from treating it like CRAP. Which is BS, BTW...
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How are they treating it badly? |
Youtube and proud.
There is no way I would get up at 7am to watch it, nothing can motivate me enough to do such a thing. |
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I know someone is going to bitch so I'll clear up the above statement. You don't matter ratings-wise in America. Quote:
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CARTOON NETWORK 2.1/10 Avg. (7a-1p) Pokemon: Diamond and Pearl: Galactic Battle 1.1/11; Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds 1.2/9; Ben 10: Alien Force 1.9/11; Star Wars: Clone Wars 2.1/10; Hot Wheels: Battle Force 2.2/10; Johnny Test 2.6/11; Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy 2.2/9; Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy 2.2/9; Chowder 2.6/11; Chowder 2.6/11; Garfield Show 2.2/10; Garfield Show 2.1/10 CARTOON NETWORK 2.0/10 Avg. (7a-1p) Pokemon: Diamond and Pearl: Galactic Battle 1.1/12; Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds 1.1/9; Ben 10: Alien Force 1.6/10; Star Wars: Clone Wars 1.8/10; Hot Wheels: Battle Force 2.2/10; Johnny Test 2.5/11; Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy 2.2/9; Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy 2.0/8; Chowder 2.3/10; Chowder 2.6/11; Garfield Show 2.1/9; Garfield Show 2.2/10 |
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That's definitely some good news! Great to know that my waking up at 6AM isn't in vain...
Also, "Pokemon Battle Galactica" = WIN |
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It matters who watches it. The reason the Superbowl is great for advertisers isn't because of the 30 million random socermoms, wives, girlfriends, and hipsters watching it "ironically" are all watching it. It's because almost every 18-49 year old male (the age demo with the most disposable income) is watching it, the same show, at the same time. Likewise, if 20 millioin people watched Pokemon, it would get canned if kids didn't watch it. And as the article points out, viewership is actually increasing. Anyway, anyone who thinks Pokemon is doing poorly is nothing short of delusional. |
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And I'm definitely not delusional. I wouldn't even be in a college right now if I were. In fact, if I were, I wouldn't even have access to a computer (As mental asylums usually keep their patients locked up in a padded cell.) PS, I specifically stated that it needs to rise above Johto's ratings because according to what is apparently the majority of the fanbase on here (not necessarily me or other Misty fans, but still), Johto was the worst season. It hasn't got anything to do with nostalgia at all as much as trying to exceed the reputed worst saga by the fanbase (even though I never even saw anything wrong with it.). |
It doesn't matter how many people watch it, it matters who participates in Nielsen ratings system, a terrible system in the first place.
Anyway, Johto was the worst saga. It's just that it was airing when Pokémon was still popular and thus many people watched it. It's not that hard to figure out. Actually, I'll look up of some of Johto's ratings at some point since it shouldn't be too hard to find. |
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CN=dead to me either way. So... yeah... =/ |
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Just because you and your friends love Johto, doesn't mean that everyone thinks the same.. |
Before I proceed, I don't see how 7am slots are bad. Networks give death slots (on network television, that's usually prime time 7pm-10pm on Friday) in an effort to get declining ratings so they can cancel a show.
But 7am for a show aimed at hyperactive little kids hopped up on ADD meds and sugary cereal? I had NO trouble getting up that early. My parents hated me for it. You put on a kids show too late in the day, then you risk airing it when many are doing extracurricular activites or during family time. I could be wrong, but 7-8am slots doesn't seem too bad, or at least not a death slot, for a show aimed at kids. Quote:
Remember, Pokemon outside of Japan was still in it's Fad status where it was everywhere. In movie theaters, lunch boxes, t-shirts, etc... Also, again, it doesn't matter how many total watch it, but core demos. Also, THE SHOW IS 10+ YEARS OLD. It's incredibly unrealistic to expect a show to maintain it's same success year after year after year. Network standards change. Look at other long running shows like ER. ER was never in danger of getting canned, but the # of people dropped. 33million tuned into season 1 finale, whereas about 16 million people tuned into it's final episode 15 years later. (link) Quote:
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lol You do know the entire point of the anime is to promote the franchise. You can't get much more blatant than Pokemon. Where every Pokedex looks pretty similar to the current generation of the Game Boy or DS. The games themselves usually start in the player's bedroom which has a NES/SNES/Wii/whatever. Quote:
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I just have to say that I'm really appreciating this debate. I'm actually learning some things about ratings and such.
And as far as 7AM being a deathslot...not for their target audience. I remember back when I was younger waking up at the crack of dawn to catch Saturday cartoons and the same on the school days. |
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Kanto Starters: Still on the team in Johto. All of them pretty much have to be plot-deviced out because Ash basically wouldn't use the others before these guys. Heracross: Was in the party for something like 12 or 13 episodes. When he finished with Tauros for like, 5 minutes of one episode, Ash sends Tauros back but doesn't re-call Heracross. Johto starters: One evolution to it's middle form. And even though Bulbasaur and Squirtle never evolved, they still learned powerful moves such as Hydro Pump and Solarbeam. None of the Johto starters learn anything nearly as powerful. Bayleef comes closest with Body Slam, and that isn't even a grass type attack. **Fillers are not necessarily synonymous with bad episodes. Bad episodes are subjective. A filler is an episode that can otherwise be skipped since it doesn't contain any advancements of the overall plot. And fillers will happen in any region. But when there's so many of them, it means Pokemon don't learn moves or aren't captured, and characters lag in development. Hence why Johto's massive amount of filler is bad. Quote:
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Nickelodeon, Disney XD, and Disney just for good measure and if you're interested: Spoiler:
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How Nielsen ratings are determined.. Run through the tabs. Or: Spoiler:
In short, Saturday morning cartoons aren't what they used to be these days. Johto averaged around 5's, the top number, throughout it's run. What does that mean? Quote:
Anyway, if anyone is interested for the ratings for Pokémon in Fall '05 and Fall '06, you can check out these threads '05 and '06. You really can't go much earlier than that ratings-wise unless you really look. Now: Quote:
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Anyway, if I made any mistakes on this, fuck it. It's too long for me to read through. |
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Not to go too much off topic: As I live in Sweden, I have to watch the episodes on sites like YouTube.. (I could watch them in Swedish, I tried one episode, with Paul in it, and he sounded like a 50 year old, couldn't stand the horrible va..) Maybe that was off topic too, :/ |
Why are you guys getting so worked up and wasting so much time .... debating the ratings of a kids cartoon?
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See, the main problem is balance. I know it's most likely going to be an advertisement anyways (pretty much every adaptation is ultimately just another advertisement of the original source.), but they could have just done it in a way that, while still an advertisement, at least makes it seem like it's own show as well (like adding in anime-only plots.). Quote:
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