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Oh dear LORDY how did I miss this thread?
For anyone that actually knows who I am, I'm gay. I didn't choose to be attracted to males, I just am. And I'm pretty good about it. ^^ I'm definately a guy, not a flambuoyant mess of a girl with male genitalia that the media and steryotypes make all gay people out to be. and you know what? I'm pretty proud of it too. I mean, who the hell are you to be saying a sexuality that is just attracted to the same gender is wrong? And about gay Marriage; I will be married on day, I will raise children (surrogated or adopted) one day, And I will live my life the way I want to without somebody telling me I can't just because I am attracted to males. And wanna know something else? I'm a christain. :D but not super-religious. I just believe in God and Jesus, but I haven't gone to church since I was like, 5-ish, and I've never actually read the bible. But this is the point: I don't believe in a bigoted God. There is this baptist church in my community, that just HATES everyone. they even have thier website of things they believe god hates. Like Gays, mexicans, etc. RIDICULOUS. anyway, rant over. How is everyone today? ^w^ XD Quote:
I bet if I came out earlier than I plan to, so many people would not refer to me as they always do now. And when I do fully come out, I bet people even in my family will refer to me as: "*mom's name*'s gay son" or "*brother's or sister's name*'s gay brother" or possibly just: "The gay one." WTF. I'm gay, but that's not who I am. It's just my sexual orientation. Do you see me calling anyone "Oh, yeah, that's the straight one."? |
Point #1: I'm straight. Just want to make sure there is no misconceptions on that. No part of me is bi, as I find the idea of sleeping even in the same bed with another guy repulsive(though if you like that, go on ahead).
Point #2: Now, I'm not saying all LGBT folks out there need to shut up and hide away, especially considering anyone knows that ain't happening anytime soon. But, I am not an advocate for gay marriage. I don't know what the problem with unification ceremonies(I honestly don't know what they're being called right now)is. You can still call it whatever you want elsewhere. I don't see why the definition of marriage needs to be changed, when these ceremonies usually result in the same rights as straight marriages. Point #3: I'd very much prefer not to have the argument that "everybody straight is really at least X% bi", because that's just plain wrong. I can usually tell if someone is gay, bi, or straight based on how they dress, talk, and act. I know that at least most of my straight friends are really straight. Not trying to be discriminatory, as much as it may sound like I am, but once you get good at it it's usually easier to spot differences(and I'm usually right with my observations, which I honestly find surprising). Point #4: Not a fan of removing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy from the US military. Regardless of if you are openly LGBT, at any workplace, that is not where you express it. I wouldn't. Most people don't. It should be no different in our military. Closing Statements: I understand the point here, but there's not a really big need for this. LGBT folks aren't being lynched or anything, and you've got your forums, groups, literature, and many other things previously unheard of. Hell, I remember calling my friend "gay"(as he was acting rather gay), and I was heard by my school's LGBT group, who harassed me for a week after that. It may not be like that everywhere, but God forbid if I said anything back, as I bet I'd have been suspended for harassment if I did. Again, I doubt it's like this everywhere, but as with race, there is a growing double standard against majority peoples(whites, straights)that forces us to hold our tongue within the constraints of poltical correctness. That kind of hypocricy, I can't stand for. Under the US Constitution, everybody has equal right to say whatever the hell they want about anyone else at any time. I personally hate political correctness. It keeps us from making rebuttals against black hatred of whites(based on crimes generally over 150 years old), and I feel it may prove true between straights and LGBTs. I will say no more on this matter, as I am sure the result will be the same as the Debate Section on Serebii(I got my *** flamed off for expressing my beliefs). I'm not forcing anything onto anyone, but I do ask at the bare minimum that you consider what I've said. |
I'm bisexual. Have been since I was about six, I started getting crushes on girls and boys alike. Gender has... never really mattered to me at all, in anyway.
In real life I'm open about my sexuality which has led to some bullying, but nothing I can't handle. I've had one girlfriend and two boyfriends. I'm still with my boyfriend. xD Not really sure what else to say. |
I'm Bisexual. Guys, Girls, whatever, if they look good, and they're nice, I don't care. And most my friends can accept this, even my very christian friend.
But all the other people at school... if I come out as being bi, all the guys are gonna (and no, not might, will, you dont know my area like I do) think I want to do them up the ass. Which generally, I don't. |
Aha. I'm bisexual. I thought I was 100% against attraction to other guys for the longest time but I realised I don't mind calling a guy cute or whatever, as long as he's not too masculine. xD
Some may call me heteroflexible or even just "straight" since my attraction to males is almost not worth noting. I'm a one. :P Quote:
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This place is not for people who are not accepted. It's just for...people in general. With a non-mandatory common interest to unite us. :) I would see nothing wrong with a heterosexual club. To me it just seems like you have some chips on your shoulder. :( *Gives you some salsa* Quote:
•Homosexuals •Jews •Catholics •Swedes •The World •People •The United States •Hawaii •Soldiers •Anything else they can think of ...I don't know of any official list, and the "Hawaii" thing is just because they once picketed there saying how much God hates Hawaii, but then again, God hates everything. xD |
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My Health teacher is highly educated on the subject, just, you know, putting that out there. If your so sure you're born a certain sexuality, and that my argument is so ridiculous, why don't you prove it? I have nothing against you guys and I'm not calling you out, which none of you seem to get, but I want proof that you are born gay and it isn't a choice, subconcious or no. EDIT: Quote:
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My two cents on the religious aspect of this debate: The Bible (or at least the Catholic study Bible I used when I was younger) never says that being homosexual is an affront to God. It's a natural anomaly present in all species of animals. The codes of Leviticus describe homsoexual sex acts as an affront to God. God loves the gays, he just doesn't particularly care for buttsecks. >_>
As long as homosexuals are lifelong celibates, they're not breaking the codes of leviticus. Not that hard, but then again, I'm possibly asexual like I stated before, so easy to me might not be easy for the majority of people. XD |
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Not to mention, in a lot of places such as Singapore and the Gaza Strip, homosexuality is only illegal if you're a male. But if two females love each other it's completely legal. I hate people. It wasn't even legal nationwide in the US until 2003. I am gay, yeah. Quote:
The theory that homosexuality is a choice contradicts itself and therefore is complete bs. |
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OK, I may have been wrong on the status of homosexuals, and I'll admit to that. Nobody seems to want to see it my way here, so I'll just drop it. I really have spun out of control in this thread, and I apologize for that. On a side note, I know I've angered some people when I'm getting hate messages on my visitor board. I will say though that I was particularly tired last night, but that's not a real excuse. I don't have anything wrong with gays (About the 5th time I've said it in this thread), and I'm neutral on the status of Gay Marriage. So, uh, I'll just leave this thread alone. |
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People who believe it's a choice, are either misinformed or complete idiots. And I am an idiot, when I call other people idiots, it means you're truly an idiot. And no, I am not calling you in particular an idiot, as it seems that your views are not completely concrete in your own mind. Anyway, I shall leave now too before I make it worse. |
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I edited the first post cuz idk what I was rly saying.. lol Quote:
Also, like a Swedish comedian once said "We're all bisexual at heart" (I think that's it) Quote:
So, I think maybe what you're trying to say (don't kill me if I'm wrong) is that we choose we're gay because we choose that label. While we do that, our attractions are what they are, b/c our hearts love whoever they do. What I like about being omnisexual(pansexual) is that you don't choose anything your heart wants (which can also be bad). I admit, I like girls, I like guys. I call people hot, but in the end it's about looks. ANYWAYS back to Objection, you don't choose to be attracted to anybody, you choose to accept it. |
I'm none, I'm strait. Not that I have any issues with Gay/Lesbian people. I have a Bisexual friend... or so he says. xD
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Half of the people who call themselves gay are most likely just going with the fad and really have no idea what it means to be gay. Obviously there are genuinely glbt people here, but I've noticed that there are also a significant amount that seem to do it for attention. Quote:
And a random thought.. why isn't the word buttsecks censored on here when the four letter word for poo is? And the three letter word for anus is as well? It also bothers me when people use gay labels for attention. Headers like "LOLOLOL Let's gave a gay touching party!" or other random, ridiculous blog entries, posts, and comments. I don't know why it doesn't bother anyone else. You don't see me going around parading about how much I like ripped chests because I'm straight. (LOL I don't, really, but I'm just using that as an example.) I think a lot of people need to mature about this subject and hopefully this thread will shine some new light on people. |
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Anywho, I'm straight and subscribe to the idea that being gay is a choice. The moment you label yourself, you're writing off the entirety of the opposite gender, and that is very much a choice because you're choosing to see romantic possibilities only in members of the same sex and if you're not, then you're bisexual, which, again, is a choice. I've never read any study that has convinced me being gay isn't a choice and I doubt I ever will because it also goes against the fundamentals of human biology and the instinctive need to procreate. Annnd I also don't think PC is an open community at all because people with thoughts like mine, Kura's, and even Objection!'s are often ostracized for posting them. It's an "open" community if you go with whatever the trend of the moment is and if you don't rock the boat, but that's as far as it goes. |
Yes, you can CHOOSE to go out with somebody, but to be sexually attracted to them is an entirely different thing.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I can't choose who I'm sexually attracted to. Sure would be nice if that were possible because in all honesty I'd rather be of a different sexuality. :o |
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Just saying, you can't have an opinion that gay people choose to be gay. There's no opinion in that. Gay people don't choose to be that way, end of story. I also doubt that most of the people on here are just saying they're gay cuz it's "cool". Since when is being a social outcast cool? |
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I know that there are likely to be people who THINK they're gay but really aren't, but I think you all over exaggerate the amount of said people.
How many people are going to be so influenced by PokeCommunity's "open-ness" to make them think that they might be gay? The topic doesn't even come up too often around here. It doesn't matter anyway. There's nothing wrong with homosexuality, and eventually everybody realizes who they're really sexually attracted to... So yeah, no big deal. >_> |
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I would suggest you just use Google, but I found a good site. http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/search?src=hw&site_area=sci&fulltext=homosexuality&x=0&y=0 There you go, I think you'd trust what the scientists say over some random user. |
None, I'm straight but I have dated two guys in the past who we're both bisexual...or so they said..
I also have friends who are gay/bi. As long as my friends and others are happy with their sexuality then I am too. It shouldn't matter what other's say as long as you are happy and confortable with your own sexuality that's all that should matter. People shouldn't discriminate against anyone be it their sexuality, colour of their skin etc. We're all human. |
welllllllll Im bisexual :D
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I look forward to the day when people understand that it shouldn't matter if someone can or can't choose to be straight, gay or anything else. Who cares if it's a choice or not? The whole argument about it being a choice/not-a-choice seems to imply that if it is a choice people are wrong for making it and that if it isn't a choice you shouldn't blame people for their "unfortunate" condition. It's stupid.
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But I do know loads of people that are like 'I'm gay. I'm so gay, I can't tell anyone because blah blah blah' when it's like 'No, you're not gay, you like the attention it gets you, but would you honestly have sex/kiss/marry someone of the same sex?' and most the time they're confusing a good friendship with love/a crush. I've noticed that alot of these people are rather young aswell. Younger than 16 usually. And finally, you can't choose your sexuality. I would much rather be straight in my area, I'm tired of being beaten up. It's not like I can help it. |
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