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FreakyLocz14 February 24th, 2010 12:48 PM

Are they Legendary Dogs or Cats... or Gerbils?
 
Entei, Suicune, and Raikou... what are they?

DGexe February 24th, 2010 12:51 PM

*shrugs* Who knows?

No, really, who does? Well... okay, okay, Game Freak would know, but do you see any o' them in this forum? *looks about* 'zactly.

Anyway, although I call them "Legendary Beasts" for simplicity's sake, I do like to think of them as cats.

Entei = Lion
Raikou = Tiger
Suicune = CHEETAH heck yeah!

But there isn't anything official on what they were based off of, I don't think, so get ready to watch the usual "cats vs dogs" arguements.

rockshock28 February 24th, 2010 4:53 PM

I generally call them Legendary Dogs, but that's just me.

Zephyr the West Wind February 24th, 2010 5:12 PM

Personally, I like to think of them as the "Legendary Beasts" as well. Although, DGexe does have a point; Entei does look very much like a lion. And Raikou does resemble a tiger...Not so sure on Suicune being a cheetah, though.....

GlitchCity February 24th, 2010 5:27 PM

well Suicune is the only one that looks like a dog to me, entei is a lion (OMG THE CIRCLE OF LIFE!), and raikou is a sabertooth. Legendary beasts?

Medli February 24th, 2010 5:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGexe
Entei = Lion
Raikou = Tiger
Suicune = CHEETAH heck yeah!

That's exactly what I think. I never called them Legendary Dogs because it bugged me that Entei looked like a lion and Raikou is definitely based off a sabertooth tiger. I personally think that Suicune has some wolf like features, but that's just me.

I call them Legendary Beasts. There's a little bit of both cats and dogs in the Beasts. It's like the freaking Eeveelutions.

But they're definitely "beasts," so that's what I'll call them.

HaloSonic February 24th, 2010 5:34 PM

all i will say on the matter is woof woof.

spike6958 February 24th, 2010 7:28 PM

Well considering my Official Strategy guide for G/S/C says there dogs I'm going with that so yeah. (Don't know why I have this guide, I think this is the first time I have used it.)

Lt_Nite February 24th, 2010 7:58 PM

I always said they were dogs just because when I played I heard that's what they were, whether or not it's true I dunno.
I still think there dogs :)

alisaie February 24th, 2010 8:26 PM

Entei if you squint, can possibly be one of those long haired dogs. Raikou I can't really see as a dog, and Suicune is a mix between a cheetah and a wolf.

So I like to call them beasts, just to settle the matter.

Meepman February 24th, 2010 9:19 PM

This is what the third time I've seen this thread? Seriously, what is so controversial about this subject that people need to keep bringing it back up? Well back on topic I think raikou is the only one who really looks like a cat to me, and entei's face is too flat to really be anything real, most people say suicune is a panther but I don't really see it so I'm just gonna go with gerbils.

Myles February 24th, 2010 10:46 PM

They're based on real life legendary creatures, Aterui, raiju and Fujin; this is backed up by both their looks and their abilities. Making Entei based on both a lion and a dog, Raikou on a saber-toothed tiger and Suicune based on a wolf.

Zephyr the West Wind February 26th, 2010 3:56 PM

Really? You think I'd know that....Well, thank you, Myles!

Heather February 28th, 2010 8:43 AM

They are usually referred to as dogs. They dont look like dogs. I agree they should be called beasts. :) wow that's really interesting Myles. I had no idea. I just love how all pokemon have a background.

The Doctor February 28th, 2010 8:50 AM

Durrr, They are Legendary Beasts, they are called Legendary Dogs because of the Legendary Birds.

~Hot n' Cold~ March 3rd, 2010 2:55 PM

They are dogs. Read their PokeDex entry.
Watch the anime.
Read the manga.
Pay attention to the games.

THEY ARE DOGS.

ChrisTom March 4th, 2010 7:49 PM

In my opinion this is a bit of a silly question. They are simply "Beasts". I understand your natural curiosity, but in my opinion they are niether. They're more like Foxes (Yes I know those are in all technicallity wolfs, but...) where you can't quite tell. It's a bit inbetween.

I don't remember where I heard it from, but I once heard they are the revived spirits of Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Flareon. Anyways, it's just an odd and rather silly topic. And they literally can't be dogs or cats. They're Pokemon.

Redstar March 4th, 2010 8:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Hot n' Cold~ (Post 5593520)
They are dogs. Read their PokeDex entry.
Watch the anime.
Read the manga.
Pay attention to the games.

THEY ARE DOGS.

In which of any of those are they referred to as dogs?

FreakyLocz14 March 7th, 2010 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redstar (Post 5596015)
In which of any of those are they referred to as dogs?

Well Entei is said to make "barking" sounds. But Both Entei and Raikou look more feline than canine. I'd say the most canine looking one is Suicune.

Legobricks March 8th, 2010 3:04 PM

They're simply Pocket Monsters to me, same as every other noteworthy creature in the franchise.

The Red Chain March 8th, 2010 4:45 PM

I say Legendary Beasts as well.
Each of them share characteristics with dogs, as well as cats.
Raikou resembles a cat almost completely as mentioned above.
Entei's bulky build reminds me of a large dog and yet it's mane is much like a lion's.
Suicune's build is very slender and agile like a cat, while it's muzzle resembles more of a dog's.

So Entei and Suicune to me are like cat-dog hybrids.. and Raikou is a saber.


Miria March 9th, 2010 7:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGexe (Post 5577226)
*shrugs* Who knows?
Entei = Lion
Raikou = Tiger
Suicune = CHEETAH heck yeah!

Agreed. ^^ Legendary cats!! Though I suppose theyre widely known as dogs..

BridZworld March 9th, 2010 2:53 PM

I've always called them Legendary Beasts and I always though that is what they were known as :x

GengarNightmare March 9th, 2010 3:16 PM

*rolls eyes* Oh boy, here we go again...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGexe (Post 5577226)
Entei = Lion St. Bernard (look it up)
Raikou = Tiger
Suicune = Neither

Fixed.

I'm not saying that they should be called Legendary Dogs either, but even if we were to agree on Entei being a lion (>_<), Suicune looks completely different from both of them. Regardless, you can't really put them all in one category, so yeah, 'legendary beasts' is what I use to avoid offending people. :P

Oh by the way, here's the dex entry for Entei from the original Gold version:

Quote:

Volcanoes erupt when it barks. Unable to restrain its extreme power, it races headlong across the land.
Last I checked, cats don't bark.

Niprop March 9th, 2010 4:57 PM

Suicune is obviously a wolf, last I checked, a cheetah didn't have that type of snout, Raikou is obviously a cat (what dog do you know of that has that sort of posture?), while Entei...It has both canine and feline features, so it's difficult to tell...

Houndoom19 March 9th, 2010 6:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GengarNightmare (Post 5607866)
Last I checked, cats don't bark.

Last I checked they don't breathe fire either.

Anyway, simple fact is they are based on both dogs and cats. Anyone who says they're one or other needs to remember that they're pokemon, not real life animals, they are fully capable of being a mix.

Pokemonaholic March 9th, 2010 9:38 PM

I call them legendary dogs, but I think they're mixed. Suicune looks like a dog, Entei looks like some sort of dog/cat mixture, and Raiku looks pure cat.

Aureol March 17th, 2010 8:28 PM

I've always called them the Legendary Dogs, but I guess logic would say they are far closer to cats. Only Suicune doesn't have feline features, and it's not much closer to being a dog.

So, for the sake of old habits, I voted Legendary Dogs, but if I sat back and thought about it, I would probably change my mind.

Koratah April 4th, 2010 5:56 AM

Well, I'm stuck in my old-not-making-any-sense ways and call them Legendary Dogs. But that's because as a kid, I heard Suicune in the movie with Celebi and thought "that is not a cat"... I could go either way, it's just out of habit that I think of them as dogs. :>

Also, I think of them as dog-cat hybrids.. like so:

Entei: Flat Face of a cat, bulky and moves like a dog.
Raikou: Face of a sabertooth cat, also sort of bulky and moves like a dog.
Suicune: Dog like face, moves very smoothly and cat-like..

-shrug- that's what I think..

FalconsDrummer April 7th, 2010 7:01 PM

Houndoom19 makes a good point that I want to elaborate on. They're not dogs or cats. However, they're not "a mix" either. They're Pokémon. They aren't supposed to resemble any specific real-life animals. If you want a term to use to refer to all 3 collectively, they are the Legendary Beasts.

-Rush April 7th, 2010 7:13 PM

Well, IMO, they're like dogs/cats to me lul.

Ninja Caterpie April 7th, 2010 7:30 PM

They're based upon large cats/large dogs in real life, but the collective term for them is the Legendary Beasts as they're bits of both.

DXrobots April 7th, 2010 10:59 PM

Raikou is clearly a tiger, Entei seems to be a a lion, and suicune seems to be a wolf

big NATE alpha April 8th, 2010 8:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niprop (Post 5608167)
Suicune is obviously a wolf, last I checked, a cheetah didn't have that type of snout, Raikou is obviously a cat (what dog do you know of that has that sort of posture?), while Entei...It has both canine and feline features, so it's difficult to tell...

I agree with this. Even though I've always called them "Legendary Dogs", Suicune is obviously based off of a wolf, and Raikou is easily a sabretooth... but Entei seems like a lion/dog hybrid. But Houndoom19 makes a good point too... They're Pokemon for Pete's sake! Why must we classify them?!

billios April 8th, 2010 9:02 AM

they're obviously worms DURRR

coconutberry April 8th, 2010 3:37 PM

I've always called them dogs, but I'm not sure what they are. Perhaps they're capibaras?

R3D April 8th, 2010 3:49 PM

Herp derp cats derp!
Seriously is this a serious question? I mean the pokedex calls them dogs...

FalconsDrummer April 8th, 2010 4:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R3D (Post 5696661)
Herp derp cats derp!
Seriously is this a serious question? I mean the pokedex calls them dogs...

No it doesn't. None of their entries in any games call them dogs. The closest thing to that is one of Entei's entries which says it barks. Barking does not a dog make.

They are Pokémon, why must we compare them to real animals?

Shiiny Pikachu April 8th, 2010 4:32 PM

Of course they're dogs. But Suicine looks kind of like a cat though

YoungO April 8th, 2010 10:49 PM

i always think of them as Legendary Dogs...

Lord Varion April 9th, 2010 2:15 AM

Some old guy in Eckruteak city
Speaks of them
this is what he says
" one day nearly 50 years ago
this city was blessed with three dogs who ran around it protecting us
but they ran off as the tower the lived in burned down
no-one has seen them since"

So the are dogs

Yusshin April 9th, 2010 2:27 AM

Technically, they're dogs, but their sprites appear more feline'ish.

Entei looks like a dog; Raikou is more of a cat, and Suicune is a dog.

As stated above, a man in Ekruteak describes them as dogs, too, so there's no better supporting evidence / proof than an in-game old guy.

R3D April 9th, 2010 3:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FalconsDrummer (Post 5696790)
The closest thing to that is one of Entei's entries which says it barks. Barking does not a dog make.

Oh my bad, they could be SEALIONS!!!

Darkgate April 11th, 2010 6:32 AM

People call Entei, Raikou and Suicune as Legendary Dogs... :o

Dullstar April 11th, 2010 1:34 PM

I don't really think much of it, but if I'm not mistaken, I read cats and dogs came from the same animal. Maybe they speculated what that animal looked like and then created Pokemon from that?

Enigma April 11th, 2010 1:46 PM

In-game old guy is full of truthfulness! :pink_disbelief:

But yeah, I think they are dogs.

shroud April 11th, 2010 2:16 PM

I like to refer to them as beasts or even monsters due to the japanese name for pokemon.
:P

InfernoHo-Oh April 16th, 2010 8:53 PM

I think they are 'beasts'. They are all a mix of cat and dog. Entei looks like a lion in the face, but is more bulky, so its body is like a dog's. Raikou looks like a tiger, but Suicune looks like a dog, yet it's swift and elegant like a cat. So a mix, perhaps?

PokéMunkey April 16th, 2010 9:22 PM

I think cats.

Raikou - Tiger
Suicune - Cheetah
Entei - Lion

Eagledelt April 22nd, 2010 8:58 AM

I think they are dogs. I am portuguese, and in the portuguese Pokemon Episodes they are called "Cães Lendários", which means Legendary Dogs. Lugia has his 3 Legendary Birds and Ho-Oh has his 3 Legendary Dogs ^-^
This is my opinion ;)

Bluerang1 April 24th, 2010 8:02 AM

I can't believe Dogs won. I'm pretty sure they're part of the feline family, 2/3 anyway.

Fxcking Tatertots April 24th, 2010 7:37 PM

Raikou is a tiger. Look at the stripes.
Entei is a lion, due to the tell-tale mane.
Suicune is where I'm confused, though. I reckon it's a panther of some sort, or probably the only dog.

Erin April 24th, 2010 9:34 PM

Everyone I know calls them the "Legendary Dogs", but I've always thought they looked more like cats.

"Legendary Beasts" makes the most sense to me.

Celest8 April 24th, 2010 9:49 PM

^ Agreed. Raikou's design is a dead giveaway. Especially it's gigantic sabre teeth.

Entei clearly looks like a lion, and Suicune, like everyone else, I am confused with. It looks a tad more like a canine to me.

Erin April 24th, 2010 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celest8 (Post 5748479)
Entei clearly looks like a lion, and Suicune, like everyone else, I am confused with. It looks a tad more like a canine to me.

That's true.
But now that I look at Suicune again, it almost resembles a spotted hyena w/ an exaggerated mane.
Legendary Cats?

Celest8 April 25th, 2010 9:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin (Post 5748604)
But now that I look at Suicune again, it almost resembles a spotted hyena w/ an exaggerated mane.

Agreed! Nice comparison. Take it's paws/legs into consideration as well; they're more slender like a canine's normally would be, whereas most big cats tend to have larger paws.

Raikou has...hooves? I honestly have no idea what they are. xD

Erin April 25th, 2010 9:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celest8 (Post 5749798)
Agreed! Nice comparison. Take it's paws/legs into consideration as well; they're more slender like a canine's normally would be, whereas most big cats tend to have larger paws.

I actually saw a small pack on the road a while ago; that's where I first got the idea. Hyenas, at least the ones that you see from time to time in an urban setting like my hometown, have significantly smaller && more slender bodies, && that trait is found in their legs as well.

So I think we've got it. Suicune's a weird water hyena thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celest8 (Post 5749798)
Raikou has...hooves? I honestly have no idea what they are. xD

I think they're exaggerated claws. Either way, Raikou's always looked more like a cross between a sabre-toothed tiger && a cheetah.

My friends have always called them the "Groothonde" (Big/Legendary Dogs), but in my opinion, Entei's the only one that even somewhat resembles a dog.

Teru Mikami April 25th, 2010 10:22 AM

I would say dogs. Hmm, i don't really know actually.

Agent Clank April 25th, 2010 10:39 AM

There Cat and Dog Like.
Ive always heard people say The Legendary Dogs.
Entei is a Dog
Raikou is a Very Wild Looking Dog
Suicune is a Dog
I Think There the Dogs.

Celest8 April 25th, 2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin (Post 5749927)
I actually saw a small pack on the road a while ago; that's where I first got the idea. Hyenas, at least the ones that you see from time to time in an urban setting like my hometown, have significantly smaller && more slender bodies, && that trait is found in their legs as well.

So I think we've got it. Suicune's a weird water hyena thing.

Alright, then that's what I shall classify it as from now on, since that makes the most sense. =) Take away the maine and all of the other extra designs on it's back, and I definately agree that it resembles one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin (Post 5749927)
I think they're exaggerated claws. Either way, Raikou's always looked more like a cross between a sabre-toothed tiger && a cheetah.

My friends have always called them the "Groothonde" (Big/Legendary Dogs), but in my opinion, Entei's the only one that even somewhat resembles a dog.

Prefect on that one. Couldn't have said it any better.

As for Entei, I agree that the face could definately resemble that of a canine. The mouth, especially. It looks like a cross between some kind of dog and a lion, which is strange...but works. xD

Psydragon May 9th, 2010 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisTom (Post 5595994)
They're more like Foxes (Yes I know those are in all technicallity wolfs, but...) where you can't quite tell. It's a bit inbetween.

Actually, foxes are part of the cat family. Just like tomatoes are fruit, Pluto isn't a planet, and female Mr. Mimes... well let's not get into that one. Thank God they don't have a male Jynx.
Back on topic... Raiku is a tiger. Entei is a lion. And I think Suicune looks like a gazelle or antelope. Anybody else get reminded of Princess Mononoke ? Back when I saw GS pre-release pictures in Beckett, I thought Entei and Raiku were evelutionary forms of each other, and Suicune had nothing to do with them.

PokéToast May 9th, 2010 11:38 AM

I always saw Raikou as a saber tooth, Entei as a mix of those Chinese dog statues and a lion and Suicuine as a wolf.
Their official title would be the "legendary beasts." I suppose the legendary dogs came about in the community itself.

Giovanni May 9th, 2010 11:48 AM

I'd say their mostly like dog's but I could be wrong, we don't know really.

Many still refer to them as legendary cats or legendary dogs, depending on if they personally see feline or canine features in the individual Pokémon. Due to this disagreement, some circles have taken to humorously calling them legendary gerbils.


Sorce; Bulbapedia

VictorRay May 9th, 2010 11:51 AM

gonna jump into the general consensus that Rai and Ent are cats whereas Sui is a dog

Acetrainer17 May 9th, 2010 11:53 AM

They look a lot like cross bred cats and dogs.

seal May 9th, 2010 12:27 PM

I personally think Entei and Raikou have to be cats, Entei a lion and Raikou a tiger, but Suicune looks more like a dog to me.

Jammy-182 May 15th, 2010 12:37 PM

I've only ever referenced them as either Raikou, Entei or Suicune. at most "legendary pokemon". I don't really see the need to categorise them. Once they've been put into a category they appear less legendary!

Raichupacabra May 16th, 2010 12:37 PM

i call them gerbils.
But i als0 call them the legendary beast trio

Kenaku May 16th, 2010 1:04 PM

I think 'beast' is most appropriate, Raikou looks like a cat, while Entei look like a dog.

SunStorm55 May 16th, 2010 4:20 PM

They are usually referred to as the legendary dogs, but I must say they aren't all dog like, especially Raiku. I guess we will never know for sure...


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