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Fakemon?
I've been working on a Pokémon Hack for months now; I was thinking of putting a lot of Fakemon (Like Quartz) but with some old Pokémon (like 90% and 10%) but today I entered this thread and readed that the fans don't like fakemon.
Why is it? And do you think it'll be ok if I put like 90% old Pokémon and some pre-evos and new evos(Chimecho evo, Kanghaskan pre-evo, etc.)? |
to be honest-it's too much work with them: Inserting( maybe creating back sprites if they don't have one...), editing the types, evolutions, attacks...
Now Imagine doing the same stuff 200 times of more... |
it depends wether they're good or not, and if you have the time and patience. for me, 100 or less is enough.
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I'm surprised there aren't more Fakemon hacks, since I find Pokemon creation to be the most fun when it comes to a made up Pokemon game. Sprite creation, inserting, coming up with all the stats/moves/etc is time consuming, yeah. It's the only thing I know how to do (with tools because I am dumb).
The reason why that one thread has so many people against Fakemon is because the focus on the thread is things you dislike, not things you love. I noticed a lot of the people who hated Fakemon made exceptions for nicely made ones. Don't sweat it, if you made a hack that was Fakemon focused, I'd play it :) |
my hack is fakeon focused. (at times)
I havent really did anything else. (been a month or two.) |
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The main problem (aside from fandom opinion) here is that, IMO I have pretty good concepts, but lack the talent for Pokémon Spriting. I can make 'em, but not as good as those on your avatar, for example. So, I guess I'll just make some 50 or 100 (evos and pre-evos) to get started on Fake-spriting and later I'll make a just-fakemon game =P |
Most people have only played games with the really, really bad type of Fakemon, or Fakemon that don't look like Pokemon mixed with Pokemon. It's a bad combination. Either completely remake the whole Dex or make Pokemon-like Fakemon.
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I don't like too many Fakemon.
Just a few.;) |
Personally, I'm a big fan of fakemon. The issue is quality, as others have said. I think that if it looks good, has a reasonable name, and it's balanced, then people will forget their prejudice. What surprises me is that most hacks I've seen that include fakemon will not show screenshots or even provide any info on what has been added.
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It's because most of the fakemon that have been made are not good. In lamens terms, crap.
And, like The Scarcrow Toxin said, the process of adding new Pokemon in a hack is difficult and time consuming. |
Personally, I like to see well made fakemon. Particularly pokemon-like fakemon, because otherwise they don't fit in with the game. A 'dex full of non-pokemon-like fakemon is just plain ew.
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On Fakemon:
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A "real world" example of what I'm saying: If a someone is a homosexual, they won't be attracted to someone of the opposite sex, regardless of how attractive they may be to a heterosexual. They may think that they are attractive but that doesn't mean that they are attracted to them. |
I like making Fakemon of types that don't exist. I also enjoy creating their (realistic) movesets and stat distribution, their dex entries, everything. I'm bored of the same, predictable Pokemon.
I understand preferring the familiar... it hurts to go through the effort of Pokemon creation just to see people dismiss it without giving it a chance. Then again, I avoid hacks with EPIC!!11 plots and main characters who speak, so whatever. |
RE:Fakemon
One of the greatest thrills (for me) when I get a new Pokemon Hack is seeing if they bothered to put new pokemon in or not. I'm bitterly dissapointed 90% of the time. It takes a lot of commitment and you have to be willing to make them look professional. I'm lucky to be working with an excellent sprite artist, so I guess al I have to worry about is programming them in.
Personally, I'm all for new Fakemon. The make games unique and interesting! |
quartz is an example of crap fakemon
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I don't know what that would imply but it's something to consider. |
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I use Fakemon for my hack.
People usually don't like Fakemon because they're not well done or fully inserted. Icons, backsprites, attacks, etc. It's a lot of work. That's why I inserted all the Fakemon into my hack before doing scripting ^^ |
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Even Baro admitted it. i dare you, call me a troll. xD |
I think Most of people dislike fakemon because they don't Look like a real pokemon. If the sprite is good and look like a real pokemon, I think then people will like it.
For example: A fakemon Should not look like a pokemon that already in pokemon game unless it is an Evo. Of a Pokemon. It should have a link to pokemon(I mean it should not look like a Fakemon or other Cartoons like Digimon). a fakemon must look good don't look like a funny art etc. (sorry for my Bad English...) |
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I always liked fakes, my last hack (which failed) was to be a full-fake one. In other terms, I think you've already got your answer. Good fakemon hacks so far are those who keep good sprites and also have a good portion of normal ones included. Take Sienna, for example. |
I like lot's o' fakes, but they have to look cool. I also like pre-evolution fakemons, or fakemon extensions, like regifire.
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I'm extremly new to all of this hacking and things, but as a player I've tried out the Pokemon Chaos Black and Pokemon Prism. Both great games, Prism better in my opinion, and it was because they both had something new that was refreshing. With Prism there was so much added in with the new maps, dialogue, and characters. Where with Chaos Black they had fakemon although some weren't to developed. I think the best that can be done is a median of both I found it almost bothersome that there were no unique pokemon is prism and same goes for chaos black about no new plot.
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Fakemon make hacks much more unique, but the have to be done well. Also remember not to have only fakes as you start to miss the officials, regardless of how authentic yours are.
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