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Lord Varion March 12th, 2010 7:04 AM

Pokémon Lost Gold ( The next Chapter )
 
Name: Pokémon lost gold ( The Next Chapter )
Hack of: Pokémon Fire Red (UK)
Creator: Nintendork15

THIS IS NOT A GSC REMAKE

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/BANNER.png

Story:
One day our hero [GOLD/KRIS] get to help Prof.ELM with a simple job in return they get to keep a pokémon
when arriving at the Post office the child has a letter from there friend (BRENDAN) saying how he has moved to HOENN
to impress your friend you decide to win the itcket to HOENN by deafteing the legendary league in EVERGRAND CITY
...
But along your path to victory evil lurks and seeks to rule the region oh JOHTO
Can you stop the evil mastermind from doing this evil deed!

Features:
New story(see above)(HOW COULD YOU MISS IT)
New HOENN region
Two battle towers
Two regions
New plot
New ISLANDS (JANTO ISLANDS)
NEW EVIL!
NEW heroes(Losten & Lostelle)
New rival ( Deken )
Old rivals(Blue,Silver)
Old heroes(Brendan,may,wally,steven and wallace)
Screenies:
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/Fullpicture.png
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/Morepictures.png
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/morepiccy.png

Team:
Nintendork15(mapper,scripter,tileinserter)
Swift sign (mapper)
Peregrinefig(Scripter)
Muffintm (back up scripter)
Banjora marxvile (Tile teacher ^^)

Credit:
Tiles from google if they were yours tell me and i give credit to you
new OW found on google as well tell me if yours and you get the credit
Critism of everyone ^^

Muffin™ March 12th, 2010 12:12 PM

I'll be a scripter if you want! ;D (I'm not adavnce, but intermenate!)

PeregrineFig March 12th, 2010 12:16 PM

Well, my current project is hit with a massive bug that I'm trying to figure out right now, so if you'd like, I can script for you. I'm not an excellent scripter yet, but I work hard to put nice levels of polish into my scripts. I've written from scratch some scripts for a starter and other stuff involving Oak in my hack, so I know all the basics and some slightly more advanced stuff. (Also, I hope you wouldn't be against me going through and correcting the English of your existing scripts; improper grammar/spelling really bothers me)

PeregrineFig March 12th, 2010 1:46 PM

Bleh, fix the tile connections with the paths between Route 27 (or whatever # it is) and New Bark Town, and, what's up with Elm's script? Looks good so far other than that, though. Also, PM me whenever you need more scripts, I'm interested in helping you out with this.

Lord Varion March 12th, 2010 1:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeregrineFig (Post 5614573)
Bleh, fix the tile connections with the paths between Route 27 (or whatever # it is) and New Bark Town, and, what's up with Elm's script? Looks good so far other than that, though. Also, PM me whenever you need more scripts, I'm interested in helping you out with this.


Yh im working on tiles thing


The part where he is sayin AA that was the player name
i dont put much effort init to be honest

TheRichar March 12th, 2010 2:13 PM

I like the Idea, but, first take your time and do it as good as you can, so the first beta will catch the people's eye... but be sure to never give up :D

Lord Varion March 12th, 2010 2:20 PM

PokéMon Lost gold THEN NEXT CHAPTER beta info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRichar (Post 5614711)
I like the Idea, but, first take your time and do it as good as you can, so the first beta will catch the people's eye... but be sure to never give up :D

The first gym probs wont be out till i have at least out a new tileset in

i need a inserter first :/

and at the first gym and the first evil team encounter

Banjora Marxvile March 13th, 2010 7:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nintendork15 (Post 5614740)
The first gym probs wont be out till i have at least out a new tileset in

i need a inserter first :/

and at the first gym and the first evil team encounter

I thought you could insert? Now now, you should learn yourself if you can't. Otherwise, you will not get anywhere, and my tutorial will have 1 less reader.

Anyway, work on your grammar in your first post. Also, the path thing between the route ad New Bark Town looks weird. And a few too many bushes in Route... Whatever.

Lord Varion March 13th, 2010 7:55 AM

those are replacements for headvutt bushes
they will be edited

NotoriouzElmo March 13th, 2010 9:53 AM

i like the idea of the idea of the hack but im hopin 2 see sum new tiles to make ur hack a bit more unique , even tho u cud work with the fire red tiles if u really want 2

Lord Varion March 13th, 2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotoriouzElmo (Post 5616992)
i like the idea of the idea of the hack but im hopin 2 see sum new tiles to make ur hack a bit more unique , even tho u cud work with the fire red tiles if u really want 2


Im not sure but i have changed the palette is that cool enough

i'll put pics on soooon

Lord Varion March 13th, 2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banjora Marxvile (Post 5616576)

I thought you could insert? Now now, you should learn yourself if you can't. Otherwise, you will not get anywhere, and my tutorial will have 1 less reader.

Anyway, work on your grammar in your first post. Also, the path thing between the route ad New Bark Town looks weird. And a few too many bushes in Route... Whatever.


Since when was i able to
i cant do it for life

where does it say i can insert who ru O.o

Banjora Marxvile March 14th, 2010 6:13 AM

You know who I am. Wait, why does that matter?

Anyway, best thing is to learn instead of asking for help. Better in the long run.

giradialkia March 14th, 2010 6:31 AM

That New Bark map is almost a direct port from Shiny Gold. There's even space behind the Player's house, where Zel hid that Pikachu.
It's as if you just imported the map and kept the default tiles. (I'm not accusing you of theft, but that map is too similar to that of Shiny Gold (further proof is that Elm's lab uses Oak's Lab tiles, but with a Pokecenter door- as was in Shiny Gold).
I'm not going to say anything else, but I'm beginning to wonder. It's likely you wouldn't have the connection problem if you edited an existing map yourself (or at least, you'd still see the map, just not connected correctly).
Also, Banjora's right, learn stuff. Learn everything. It's good for you.

NiKaNoRoU March 14th, 2010 7:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nintendork15 (Post 5613856)
Name: Pokémon lost gold ( The Next Chapter )
Woot?

a WHOLE new experience - I don't see anything new so far.


The bedroom (not much new) - That looks like an empty office, without the paperwork (yes, offices have beds, for obvious reasons. ;))
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/Bedroom.png
Downstairs ( yh no Pokégear so far ...)
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/Frontroom.png
Outside ( Rain = New world) - Not really. Just a rainy New Bark? :/
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/Town.png
Silver script(sprite needed) - Oh well.
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/Silverscript.png


yeah no connections yet - Fail. And i'm talking to the overworld, overlapping the bush =D
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/Noconncettionsyet.png



Thanks to:
Banjor Marxvile for honest critism - [...]
And peregrinfug for a new script - [...]

Some comments are in bold.

In other words, you need to point out what have you done to your hack in order to stand out. We currently have 3 good GSC Remakes, HGSS, and well, GSC. (Yes, I am currently viewing this as a GSC remake, nothing more, you don't prove that 'anything more' anyway). What makes yours special?

Imo you should try out something innovative. I can't know exactly, but many new things will do.

Good luck anyway.

Lord Varion March 14th, 2010 8:14 AM

Yh i based my map on that one
but now i have done it by myself
by lookin at the old maps from g/s/c games
but yeah thanks for sppottin that out ^_^


THIS IS NOT A GSC REMAKE

It is a Hack that happens to take place in the Johto and kanto region

Lord Varion March 15th, 2010 11:05 AM

UPDATES (drum roll) ^^

This hack takes place in Johto and Hoenn ( to make it unique)

As proof the entrance to hoenn is in cianwood city and leads to johto path

Maps(i have finished)
New bark town
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/NEWBARKTOWN.jpg
Route 29
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/ROUTE29-1.jpg
Cianwood city
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/CIANWOODCITY.jpg
Joenn Path
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/JOENNPATH.jpg

PeregrineFig March 15th, 2010 11:24 AM

I like the new tiles, but you should change the palettes around, the old colors of the rocks and water are blah. Also, tile error in New Bark Town, you should use the block editor and make a sign with a sand-path background.

Lord Varion March 15th, 2010 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeregrineFig (Post 5623109)
I like the new tiles, but you should change the palettes around, the old colors of the rocks and water are blah. Also, tile error in New Bark Town, you should use the block editor and make a sign with a sand-path background.


Critism Luv LUUUUUV IT !!!!
thanks im doing that right now
;)

Banjora Marxvile March 15th, 2010 11:49 AM

3 criticisms: 1: You still haven't learnt tile inserting, despite my offer to teach you? Don't rely on that ROM Base, as the pallettes look kinda iffy on it. Especially the wild grass. It doesn't fit the overall theme of the rest of the tiles, no matter what you will replace them with.

2.http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/JOENNPATH.jpg
The mountain edges here defy physics, especially the ones with the stairs. Look carefully at where they join at the North and South, it looks wrong, and is physically wrong.

3.http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/ROUTE29-1.jpg
Wrong tree base on some of them (check all the green ones, you put the yellow base on them!)

Oh, and TRY to add new things. You may say it isn't a GSC remake, but from the screenies at the tope, it is hard to see it NOT being a remake, so maybe update them with NEW things. This screenshot and description makes it seem like a GSC remake:

Silver script(sprite needed)
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/Silverscript.png

Lord Varion March 15th, 2010 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banjora Marxvile (Post 5623165)
3 criticisms: 1: You still haven't learnt tile inserting, despite my offer to teach you? Don't rely on that ROM Base, as the pallettes look kinda iffy on it. Especially the wild grass. It doesn't fit the overall theme of the rest of the tiles, no matter what you will replace them with.

2.http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/JOENNPATH.jpg
The mountain edges here defy physics, especially the ones with the stairs. Look carefully at where they join at the North and South, it looks wrong, and is physically wrong.

3.http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/ROUTE29-1.jpg
Wrong tree base on some of them (check all the green ones, you put the yellow base on them!)

Oh, and TRY to add new things. You may say it isn't a GSC remake, but from the screenies at the tope, it is hard to see it NOT being a remake, so maybe update them with NEW things. This screenshot and description makes it seem like a GSC remake:

Silver script(sprite needed)
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/Silverscript.png

It was orginally going to be a remake
but then i realised it wouldnt be unique so
its not a reamke
No KANTO
Just JOHTO AND HOENN

Lord Varion March 16th, 2010 1:37 PM

Hey NEW UPDATES ABOVE

and

Should i make it so you can battle Brendan at that part of the game?
or just a friendly hello

giradialkia March 17th, 2010 1:03 AM

Right, firstly...
If this is not a remake, you still should try and stick to the Pokemon Story. RSE takes place at the same time as FRLG/RBY, therefore Brendan completed his journey three years before Gold started his. If this isn't a remake and you're going to include Brendan, you'd be better off making a new player/hero altogether.
I don't think you should battle Brendan there, since he's moving to Hoenn, he shouldn't be battled until you go to Hoenn. (Obviously what you're trying to do to be original is replace Kanto with Hoenn, so as the "Epic Battle" of the game, you should battle Brendan at the end). Create new heros, and a new Johto Rival- let Brendan be a friend.
Anyway, secondly...
Above, you admitted to basing the New Bark map off the Shiny Gold one- and that you've now edited it.
I now know why- sorry to say, but you really need to work on mapping. You're trying to impress everyone with what's included in the hack, but.. It's nothing that special, to be honest.
(btw, that Cianwood map, and the Route next to New Bark, they're both from Shiny Gold, I'm pretty sure). There is a huge contrast in the mapping styles of the New Bark, Route, and Cianwood map, and Joenn Path's map- which is obviously the only map you've done yourself.
1. The Joenn Path map is too straight. Route's need to have a bit more.. Twists and such. Add some trees, too. But, read on...
2. As someone has said, the mountain placement is not physically possible- they're joining up incorrectly, you need to add more layers, etc.
3. Make the whole thing twice, if not three times as long. It's joining Johto and Hoenn, and it shouldn't be properly accessible until you've got the 8th badge. Look at Tojoh falls/the Kanto Route that leads to Johto. You can surf across to Kanto when you've got the fourth badge, but you can't go any further til you get Waterfall, and beat Claire.
From you're map, Hoenn is fully accessible to the Player when they reach Cianwood. Ok, so what you need to do is..
1. Make that map a lot longer. Seriously, go nuts here.
2. Add the need to use a few HMs, with perhaps a Waterfall at the end of the route or something, to stop the Player from being able to get too close to Hoenn early in the game.
3. Add some more trees, and fix up the mountain placement.
(I highly recommend you read a mapping tutorial, and think before you map. You don't seem to understand how to use certain tiles, and that can result in bad, illogical maps like Joenn Path here).
Sorry for the long post, and I hope I didn't offend you or your work here (but seriously... Ditch the Shiny Gold maps, man. Try harder to be original).

Lord Varion March 17th, 2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giradialkia (Post 5628087)
Right, firstly...
If this is not a remake, you still should try and stick to the Pokemon Story. RSE takes place at the same time as FRLG/RBY, therefore Brendan completed his journey three years before Gold started his. If this isn't a remake and you're going to include Brendan, you'd be better off making a new player/hero altogether.
I don't think you should battle Brendan there, since he's moving to Hoenn, he shouldn't be battled until you go to Hoenn. (Obviously what you're trying to do to be original is replace Kanto with Hoenn, so as the "Epic Battle" of the game, you should battle Brendan at the end). Create new heros, and a new Johto Rival- let Brendan be a friend.
Anyway, secondly...
Above, you admitted to basing the New Bark map off the Shiny Gold one- and that you've now edited it.
I now know why- sorry to say, but you really need to work on mapping. You're trying to impress everyone with what's included in the hack, but.. It's nothing that special, to be honest.
(btw, that Cianwood map, and the Route next to New Bark, they're both from Shiny Gold, I'm pretty sure). There is a huge contrast in the mapping styles of the New Bark, Route, and Cianwood map, and Joenn Path's map- which is obviously the only map you've done yourself.
1. The Joenn Path map is too straight. Route's need to have a bit more.. Twists and such. Add some trees, too. But, read on...
2. As someone has said, the mountain placement is not physically possible- they're joining up incorrectly, you need to add more layers, etc.
3. Make the whole thing twice, if not three times as long. It's joining Johto and Hoenn, and it shouldn't be properly accessible until you've got the 8th badge. Look at Tojoh falls/the Kanto Route that leads to Johto. You can surf across to Kanto when you've got the fourth badge, but you can't go any further til you get Waterfall, and beat Claire.
From you're map, Hoenn is fully accessible to the Player when they reach Cianwood. Ok, so what you need to do is..
1. Make that map a lot longer. Seriously, go nuts here.
2. Add the need to use a few HMs, with perhaps a Waterfall at the end of the route or something, to stop the Player from being able to get too close to Hoenn early in the game.
3. Add some more trees, and fix up the mountain placement.
(I highly recommend you read a mapping tutorial, and think before you map. You don't seem to understand how to use certain tiles, and that can result in bad, illogical maps like Joenn Path here).
Sorry for the long post, and I hope I didn't offend you or your work here (but seriously... Ditch the Shiny Gold maps, man. Try harder to be original).


Like i said earlier i have NOT copied Shiny golds maps
I have look at them and made them on my ROM i have a few changes and i made that CIANWOOD CITY and ROUTE 29 myself!


2. the goin to hoenn there will be a new map soon with waterfalls in and such and a gaurd not letting you through without CLAIRE's LETTER
wich you cannot receive without defeating clair and goin to dragon's den

3. If you notice there are some differences between my maps and shiny golds maps

Eg all me maps are goin to be connected
shiny golds ARE NOT

And last but not least
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT BRENDANS ADVENTURE TOOK PLACE AT THE SAME
TIME AS RBY

and cant i use imagination look around everyone uses imanation in thier hacks!

apart from that thanks for critism

Lord Varion March 20th, 2010 3:25 AM

New updates:
New bark
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/NEWBARKTOWN-1.jpg
Cherry grove
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/CHERRYGROVECITY.jpg
Route 30
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/ROUTE30.jpg
Route 31
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/Route31.jpg
and voilet city!!! (based on hgss style)
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/voiletcitynew-1.jpg

All made from scratch :D


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