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ilikeluigi March 25th, 2010 7:40 PM

My friend, the classic Pokemon games will NEVER DIE! Ever. (P.S. I thought the remakes were great.)

Aetheria March 26th, 2010 6:58 PM

I find that FR/LG are fairly decent games but they, due to some changes made to the series in the next two gens, are significantly easier and thus in many respects less enjoyable.

Zakki-C-Mo March 27th, 2010 6:39 PM

pokemon were made to battle, and train with for battle, not put frills on and waste time and p for stupid ribbons, i love the oldschool, granted i love playing through hg, ss, lg, and fr, but old school focused on what pokemon was all about.
-admittedly on sapphire, ruby, and emerald i occasionally did contests after i beat the elite 4, but the later gens really take it too far-

Mrchewy March 29th, 2010 3:51 AM

I think people here are letting nostalgia overtake them. R/B were good games, no doubt, but even when I played them as a kid I thought they were flawed in a lot of ways.

MASTERBOSSgodora March 29th, 2010 4:07 AM

I actually prefer FR/LG mostly because LG makes me think of Luigi. And he dominates. But also because although the best generation for pokemon invention was Gen. 1, almost all of my favorites were from later generations - Umbreon, Tyranitar, Aggron, and Breloom. However, I do miss the old glitches...and my level 157 snorlax and my level 148 Muk.

Jellly March 30th, 2010 3:26 AM

I agree with a lot of other posters here in that the new games will never kill the classics.

I mean from a technical standpoint, the HG and SS are better in just about everything. For some reason, however, the old school 2nd gen just seems so much better.

For me, the old school shoddy graphics are more appealing than the newer graphics. I was watching my sister play her new SS and the new graphics just didn't feel right for me. I'll probably get HG eventually but it'll never be the same as good ol 2nd gen gold - for me at least. It's too complicated (not that I'm simple minded or anything), but I just liked it more when it was more basic and not as gimmicky or with special abilities etc. :)

WriteThemWrong April 4th, 2010 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrchewy (Post 5660988)
I think people here are letting nostalgia overtake them. R/B were good games, no doubt, but even when I played them as a kid I thought they were flawed in a lot of ways.

they were extremely frustrating for me. playing red, blue, and yellow was annoying on many levels, team rockets stupid warp pads, certain points in the game when you don't know where to go next, annoying dungeons/mansions. I had to borrow a friends guide book to make it a few times. It could have been the fact that i was young and wasn't as smart but the games were targeted at kids.

pokemon types and movesets were also annoying and weighted more toward certain types. dragon was a mystery, why were there only 3, why where gust/comet punch/etc normal attacks. The list goes on now that there have been updates but these new versions are a way to play the games of the good ol days in a more streamlined way

RTHookers April 4th, 2010 12:45 AM

Without FR/LG there would be no HG/SS. Watch your words.

Riverwind April 4th, 2010 6:03 AM

Well, we wouldn't have these remakes if it hadn't of been for the orignals.

Xtazyz April 4th, 2010 9:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loliwin (Post 5622098)
Firered and Leafgreen were crap, but it made me remember R/B again. :)
Same with HG/SS. >.<

I think they shouldve done a Yellow remake. That would be just awesome!

they kinda of did, HG&SS pokemons follow you and have emotions
bouth are great i love em all

Zakki-C-Mo April 4th, 2010 7:34 PM

I agree that the new games did fix things, but gold ad silver (the originals) were in my opinion the best gen, i mean, they made moves the types they should have been, they had puzzles that made you think, but were still pretty simple, and the in battle graphics were still pretty good, and if you played type advantage, and attack boosting items (nevermeltice, charcoal, etc.) the gym leaders and even the elite 4 are quite simple to beat. (my 1st time beating the elite 4 i had a lv. 43 Raikou (i used my masterball to cap it), lv.40 Kadabra, lv. 38 Typhlosion, lv.39 lapras, lv. 40 suicune, and lv. 38 pidgeot) well i was playing crystal tho, lol

Ryuusei Red April 6th, 2010 5:41 PM

Pokemon Red will always remain my favorite Pokemon game. I was a little disappointed to find out just how different Pokemon FireRed was from Pokemon Red... -sighs- I guess the added islands messed up the game for me, and the remastered music... I miss the 8-bit tracks from Pokemon Red....such nostalgia, but lucky for me, I can play the original anytime. Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver are ok remakes, but for some reason....they just will not beat the original G&S series, and I believe that alot of people will agree with me. The old school trainers that is.

.hack April 6th, 2010 5:47 PM

G/S/C will never properly die IMO :3
Even if HGSS was terrible G/S/C would still live on as I know a big group of people who would continue playing the games because the originals kick ass.
And same goes for R/B/Y...

Ryuusei Red April 6th, 2010 5:50 PM

The originals are still really good, so that's understandable.

WriteThemWrong April 6th, 2010 7:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryuusei Red (Post 5690011)
I guess the added islands messed up the game for me, and the remastered music... I miss the 8-bit tracks from Pokemon Red....such nostalgia, but lucky for me, I can play the original anytime.

the music from the originals games were amazing like symphonies they were. i never realized it as a kid but playing it through now i love it

Annunaku April 7th, 2010 12:04 AM

Killed them, I wouldn't go so far as to say that... but I think the remakes were for the best.

Conor April 7th, 2010 12:19 AM

I would of liked FR/LG a lot more if they would have stick to the original 150+1 pokemon :(

Hessian April 7th, 2010 10:33 AM

I couldn't play HG for more than 30 minutes straight, and then a friend of mine redirected me to a 17-in-1 Pokemon emulator including all the games before Platinum. I immediately spent the rest of the day playing Crystal and Blue :S

coconutberry April 9th, 2010 5:57 AM

My first Pokemon game was Sapphire, so when I got LeafGreen, I didn't have any nostalgia for R/B/Y to compare it to. I eventually did play Blue later, and I lost interest pretty quickly... It just wasn't the same for me. I missed the full color graphics and the music of LeafGreen.

In addition, I did play G/S/C (all three of 'em) due to lack of a Johto remake. I had always wished that they would remake Johto, because I wasn't fond of the old graphics. Needless to say, I was VERY happy when I found out about HG/SS, and I prefer it over G/S/C.

I honestly don't think the remakes are intended to replace the originals -- rather, they're intended to introduce the younger generations to the classics with something they won't discard as "too old". It may be a "remake", but I see them as completely different games -- a new experience for new fans. They don't kill anything.

PokemonLeagueChamp April 9th, 2010 6:08 AM

The classics aren't dead! Dammit, I've got Pokemon Yellow, FireRed, LeafGreen, Gold, SoulSilver, and Crystal so don't you go spoutin off that they're dead!

Seriously though, you can't replace the originals, only remake and update for next generation systems and gamers. I haven't played RBY in AGES so I can't honestly compare them to the remakes but I just beat Crystal(for the 35th time)and I can tell you that HGSS took what made the original GSC awesome and multiplied it several times over. But I still play my good old Gold and Crystal, because they're still good, still working(thank God), and still alive.

Gidget April 9th, 2010 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aureol (Post 5620684)
I'm sorry, but I'm a sucker for graphics. The originals have their place, and they will always be great, but I can never go back to them.

Makes me kind of sad, actually.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiskit (Post 5620952)
They were an upgrade in graphics, though the originals are awesome. Another thing is that now you can also be a girl, in the originals, you couldn't.


Yeah, I agree with all of this. I have great memories playing my Red version to death when it first came out, but looking back on it, I dunno how I was able to stand the gameplay. Also, how the original Gameboy's screen blurred when you walked around. The originals will always have a place in my childhood memories, but the new gameplay and graphics are what I'm all about now.

ultimatedood April 10th, 2010 8:33 PM

Agreed. FRLG sucked, I hated it. I wanted a gold/silver remake for YEARS, and FINALLY its out

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 11th, 2010 7:10 AM

I've never got why people hated on FR/LG. I'm doing a monotype challenge right now and I'm on blue. And I keep thinking, "my god, I wish I'd done this on the remakes instead".

I had blue when I was young, so it's not like I don't have nostalgia...but FR/LG is just R/B with better graphics and a few extra, completely optional bits.

And the music? R/B music was tinny and annoying, just like most game music for the Gameboy. At least the FR/LG music doesn't make your ears bleed.

Rucario April 11th, 2010 8:12 AM

I really liked FR/LG and I had a lot of fun. I still do like Red and Blue, but FR/LG is sort of just a modernized version of it.

Somber April 11th, 2010 10:20 AM

The Remakes, though are technically much better, will never replace the original red/blue/silver/gold in my heart


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