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Wings Don't Cry April 11th, 2010 12:36 PM

I never thought that they killed them, with Fr/Lg being so bad(IMO) I wanted to play R/B again even more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5625134)
Seriously? Walking through those buildings between routes was really annoying with the need to go through the bag every time.

And never being able to store TMs in your bag. Never being able to pick up a loose item on the ground. All you could store was:

Poke Balls
Great Balls
Ultra Balls
Potions
Super Potions
Hyper Potions
Full Restores
Repels
Super Repels
Escape Ropes
Revives
Ethers
Bike
Old Rod
Good Rod
Super Rod
Item Finder
Town Map

And then only two more spaces for Master Balls, Rare Candies, TMs, vitamins, stones, story items, random items on the ground, etc.

The sad part was I put everything I wanted in the PC and that filled up is well.

Dullstar April 11th, 2010 1:31 PM

What's with all the FireRed/LeafGreen hate? I thought they took what was wrong with Red and Blue and fixed it. Then again, Gold was the first one I had, which looked WAY better than Red/Blue. I like Red/Blue, but I think that the graphics REALLY could have been better. Come on, the gameboy should have been at least able to support non-pixellated back sprites! And this is coming from someone who really doesn't care that much about graphics...

I generally treat the remakes as different games, although I do compare them to their corresponding originals. After all, there are enough modifications to be considered different.

Arcelio April 11th, 2010 2:30 PM

I, personally, didn't enjoy Fire-Red, or Leaf-Green. Not because they weren't good additions to the Pokemon franchise, which they were, but because I felt I kept getting a feeling of nostalgia, and not the good kind either. More of the 'I've been here, I already know what I have to do, can we just get this over with already?' kind of nostalgia. Fire-Red and Leaf-Green both had their good points, but, to me, I felt that they were the worst versions in the series. I just didn't feel the spark that I did when I first picked up Pokemon Red and plugged it into my Gameboy Pocket. The rush was just... gone.

HeartGold and SoulSilver however, is a different story entirely. I didn't really appreciate the female lead changing, since I felt that that changing it was taking away from the memories and idealistic fantasies I had about the Gold and Silver remakes. I always imagined Gold, Kris, and Silver in 3D, running around Johto and Kanto. Instead, I got Gold (or Jimmy, depending on who you ask), Lyra (or Kotone, once again, depending on who you ask), and Silver (who's history was actually explained this time). The nostalgia was there in HeartGold and SoulSilver, but there were enough changes to make the experience fresh. From having a Pokemon follow behind you (a throwback to Pokemon Yellow), to chasing down the Legendary Dogs, to battling Red atop Mt. Silver. Every memory from my childhood was brought to life in HeartGold and SoulSilver, and they brought friends.

I think HeartGold and SoulSilver were the best games of the 4th generation, just because I didn't feel like Diamond/Platinum/Pearl were really adding anything to the series as a whole. Yes, some new Pokemon, along with new abilities, were added, and (obviously) everything was in 3D, which I felt was a big step in the right direction with Pokemon. But, in the end, to me, it just felt lacking of something. Platinum didn't change much from Diamond/Pearl, besides the Competitive Meta-Game, move accuracy changes, 'formes', and the Lost Dimension (which I nicknamed the Negative Dimension).

So, in my opinion, this is the list of how the Pokemon...


1.) Pokemon Red/Blue/Green/Yellow
2.) Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
3.) Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver
4.) Pokemon Diamond/Platinum/Pearl
5.) Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
6.) Pokemon Fire-Red/Leaf-Green

UmbreonUniverse April 17th, 2010 10:16 AM

I am playing pokemon heart gold and sometimes pokemon red but I hate it when people say the re-makes are more better then the original with some things thay are but COME ON!!! its the original you can get more nastalgic then that!

dragonite trainer April 18th, 2010 2:50 PM

I feel the same way. I waited months for HGSS, and quickly found my old gbc and started playing gold and red again.

Tater Tot April 24th, 2010 8:17 AM

How did FR/LG and HG/SS kill the originals? o__o They're just remakes, they're not supposed to be amazing. And in my opinion, they exceeded my expectations. ESPECIALLY HG/SS. Sure, they're not near as good as the originals, but they're better than they could be.

Cloud197 April 24th, 2010 7:02 PM

In my honest opinion, nothing will ever beat the nostalgic feelings R/B/Y or G/S/C will ever give me. I mean, I loved the games for their awesome game play, and also the blocky graphics and bloopy music. I have the OST's on my iPod! In all seriousness, if I didn't adore the ability of online game play, I would probably stick with the original GB and GBC games. Don't et me wrong, I loved the remakes because they were like expansions of the originals fit for more modern day gaming, but man, nothing beats the memories of opening up that blue, thin cardboard box with a Blastoise on it, being an eager 6 year old, popping it into my ice blue gameboy pocket, and starting an adventure that I had no idea would forever be held in my mind and change my life forever.

Xyrin April 24th, 2010 7:28 PM

Even though I was born AFTER Red and Blue, I got it first. (I never noticed I played obtained the game in order.) I loved it. (My 5 year old brain got lost in Cerulean cave) I still like the old games and love the music. But still. There are so much stuff in HGSS and FRLG. Such as graphics. Wifi, for HGSS. But I still wish my battery for gold work. It might still but the last time I tried to play it. Save file POOF.

Fxcking Tatertots April 24th, 2010 7:28 PM

I think threads like this killed G/S/C and R/B/Y. When will people learn and realize that things change?

Nostalgia is overrated. The past is the past, and nothing could change it.

Really, man, I can't stand elitism. Shut up and enjoy the game. Fandom is such a fickle thing.

Ecstatic April 28th, 2010 11:58 AM

I fail to see how both of the remakes killed these games, sure, they aren't sold in stores, but the nostalgia will always stick with most people in this forum, because most people in this forum grew up with Generation I And II. So, in my honest opionion, I won't agree, and will never agree, with your statement, but thank you for putting up this discussion.

DarkZelda April 28th, 2010 12:04 PM

FR/LG did the originals no justice. I'm honestly not a fan of the R/S/E graphics anyway.
However, the HG/SS remakes I thought were better than FR/LG.
I kinda wish they did the R/B remakes in the 3D graphics, like HG/SS.

And nostalgia comes in to play. lol.

LightOfTruth April 29th, 2010 6:41 AM

I remember Pokemon Red and Blue very well. I stopped playing it when Firered/Leafgreen come out :)

GlitchCity May 1st, 2010 3:42 PM

What? WHAT? So you're saying that FR/LG killed RBHGSS? Are you serious? Heh sorry bud, but there would be no Heartgold or Soulsilver (which are sequals to FR/LG) without FR/LG. Besides I didnt like the originals after I got Leafgreen. Yellow got on my nerves, and Blue was ugh. If you want to deny everything that the 3rd generation games; Firered and Leafgreen, did for Heartgold and Soulsilver (and future games), then you have to rethink your logic.


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