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Fur Elise March 22nd, 2010 3:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti (Post 5644193)
Kindly tell me where in the Constitution it says that Congressmen have to do what their constituents want them to do. They get their power from the people who elect them. Then it is entirely up to their judgment. >_>



...What? This isn't a liberals vs. conservatives issue. This is a "Barack Obama cannot be compared to Adolf Hitler" issue.

As for the liberals who "will do whatever they want," the Democrats sure don't get a lot done for supposedly having dictatorial tendencies. lol.

the representetives(sp) are voted to represent their state and people. The represent our views and beliefs, well supposed to.

Prince_of_Light March 22nd, 2010 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fur Elise (Post 5644542)
the representetives(sp) are voted to represent their state and people. The represent our views and beliefs, well supposed to.

The argument the person you quoted just made basically amounts to the candidate lying on the campaign about what they stand for, getting elected, then revealing themselves to have a completely different ideology than what they ran on, screwing their constituents over completely. And apparently they must think it's ok for that to happen because the will of the people supposedly only matters in the voting booth. If he read anything of the Federalist Papers he would know that that is exactly what legislators were intended to do, VOTE WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS' OPINION.

NikoBelic999 March 22nd, 2010 3:24 PM

This is a BAD thing.....

Our Taxes will go up about 20%, and the ELDERLY PEOPLE and MEDICARE, are so screwed, Elderly prescriptions that were half cheap will skyrocket, THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING.

Prince_of_Light March 22nd, 2010 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NikoBelic999 (Post 5644596)
This is a BAD thing.....

Our Taxes will go up about 20%, and the ELDERLY PEOPLE and MEDICARE, are so screwed, Elderly prescriptions that were half cheap will skyrocket, THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING.

THANK YOU SIR.

Put it very simply. =P

.little monster March 22nd, 2010 3:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NikoBelic999 (Post 5644596)
This is a BAD thing.....

Our Taxes will go up about 20%, and the ELDERLY PEOPLE and MEDICARE, are so screwed, Elderly prescriptions that were half cheap will skyrocket, THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING.

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Originally Posted by Prince_of_Light (Post 5644602)
THANK YOU SIR.

Put it very simply. =P

You both have no idea what you are talking about. Go read my last post here. :|

NarutoActor March 22nd, 2010 3:32 PM

This is not a good thing. Health care will bankrupt America, and no republicans voted for it. What ever happened to by bipartisanship obamma promised.

.little monster March 22nd, 2010 3:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NarutoActor (Post 5644616)
This is not a good thing. Health care will bankrupt America, and no republicans voted for it. What ever happened to by bipartisanship obamma promised.

Again, stop being stupid. Read my last post. :|

NikoBelic999 March 22nd, 2010 3:33 PM

We DO Have an Idea, Ever since I have read the bible, it does say that if Health Care Passes, and stuff like that, TAKING US OVER, will cause 1 government, one leader, one dictator, and OBAMA is trying to do this, HEALTH CARE IS A BAD THING.

If you want higher taxes, higher prescriptions prices, elderly and medicare screwed, GO AHEAD LIKE IT....

Prince_of_Light March 22nd, 2010 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NarutoActor (Post 5644616)
This is not a good thing. Health care will bankrupt America, and no republicans voted for it. What ever happened to by bipartisanship obamma promised.

The bipartisanship was on the "NO" side of the vote.

http://www.worldbuzznow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Health-Care-Vote-Count-Results-Health-Care-Bill-gets-Yes-300x226.jpg

EDIT: Whoops, that's from the 2009 vote. If I can find an image of the Sunday vote I will post it.

NarutoActor March 22nd, 2010 3:36 PM

Congrats but what you wrote did not answer my questions slash my points. No republican support. Also this bill will be payed for during the next 10 years but only covering 5 years of medical support.

.little monster March 22nd, 2010 3:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NikoBelic999 (Post 5644621)
We DO Have an Idea, Ever since I have read the bible, it does say that if Health Care Passes, and stuff like that, TAKING US OVER, will cause 1 government, one leader, one dictator, and OBAMA is trying to do this, HEALTH CARE IS A BAD THING.

If you want higher taxes, higher prescriptions prices, elderly and medicare screwed, GO AHEAD LIKE IT....

Okay, you're obviously one of those completely idiotic republicans who don't even study what they are talking about. They just pull stuff out of their butt and say it's the truth. You're completely wrong. You're just a troll. Welcome to the ignore list.

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Originally Posted by NarutoActor (Post 5644637)
Congrats but what you wrote did not answer my questions slash my points. No republican support. Also this bill will be payed for during the next 10 years but only covering 5 years of medical support.

It answered everything. You're probably just to dim to comprehend it. Welcome to the ignore list.

Well, these two posts by you guys are the exact reason why no one here respects either of you. :]

NikoBelic999 March 22nd, 2010 3:39 PM

All I have to say to these People who want health care reform is that Go ahead and believe in it, when you are stuck in an unemployment office, needing to pay taxes, family, AND bills, they wont give you all of the money, taxes WILL be higher, dont complain.

When your parents or grandparents are dieing because they cant afford meds, dont complain here.

Prince_of_Light March 22nd, 2010 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by .little monster (Post 5644641)
Okay, you're obviously one of those completely idiotic republicans who don't even study what they are talking about. They just pull stuff out of their butt and say it's the truth. You're completely wrong. You're just a troll. Welcome to the ignore list.



It answered everything. You're probably just to dim to comprehend it. Welcome to the ignore list.

Well, these two posts by you guys are the exact reason why no one here respects either of you. :]

Who exactly is insulting who here, sir? I would say you are the troll.

NarutoActor March 22nd, 2010 3:40 PM

demeaning someone dose not prove your point. It was not there, so just make a rebuttal.

.Gamer March 22nd, 2010 3:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NikoBelic999 (Post 5644621)
We DO Have an Idea, Ever since I have read the bible, it does say that if Health Care Passes, and stuff like that, TAKING US OVER, will cause 1 government, one leader, one dictator, and OBAMA is trying to do this, HEALTH CARE IS A BAD THING.

If you want higher taxes, higher prescriptions prices, elderly and medicare screwed, GO AHEAD LIKE IT....


Could you please type in english please? kthx

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If he read anything of the Federalist Papers he would know that that is exactly what legislators were intended to do, VOTE WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS' OPINION.
=/= Constitution. ~___~

Look out for the Dehttp://tommychristopher.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/death_panel1.jpgth Panels!

I think people are really blowing this out of proportion, but its not like the world is gonna blow up or anything I mean sheesh.

.little monster March 22nd, 2010 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince_of_Light (Post 5644648)
Who exactly is insulting who here, sir? I would say you are the troll.

Being a troll has nothing to do with calling people who are idiots idiots. And I never said I wasn't a troll, and on top of that, me being one doesn't negate the fact that he is one. kthxbai

LOL I bet you don't know what that means.

Health Care Reform passed. Get over it.

NikoBelic999 March 22nd, 2010 3:44 PM

Meh Im outta here, you democrats wanting health care reform are stupid.....

Prince_of_Light March 22nd, 2010 3:44 PM

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Originally Posted by .little monster (Post 5644657)
Being a troll has nothing to do with calling people who are idiots idiots. And I never said I wasn't a troll, and on top of that, me being one doesn't negate the fact that he is one. kthxbai

LOL I bet you don't know what that means.

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Do not flame, bash or insult other people. If someone acts uncivil, or harasses/intimidates you, you are not given the excuse to act the same in retaliation.

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Also.

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Originally Posted by .Gamer (Post 5644655)
=/= Constitution. ~___~

They do not equal the Constitution, but they do give a good deal of insight about what the Founders wanted us to do with it.

NikoBelic999 March 22nd, 2010 3:45 PM

@Prince of light: At least some people has some brains here...

NarutoActor March 22nd, 2010 3:48 PM

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Originally Posted by .little monster (Post 5644657)
Being a troll has nothing to do with calling people who are idiots idiots. And I never said I wasn't a troll, and on top of that, me being one doesn't negate the fact that he is one. kthxbai

LOL I bet you don't know what that means.

Health Care Reform passed. Get over it.

This is just one lost, the real battle has just begone.

NarutoActor>respect then little monster. I don't call people idiots just because I don't agree with them. The person that dose that is the true idiot. If you can't prove that anyone is an idiot, then you shouldn't say it. Show some facts and make your self seem logical; not the other way around.

Luck March 22nd, 2010 3:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NikoBelic999 (Post 5644665)
Meh Im outta here, you democrats wanting health care reform are stupid.....

Because we were much better with our older health care system?
I'm not saying this is a perfect bill(far from it), but it is in many ways superior. Of course people will have to pay more taxes, but does it matter if it's for the greater good?(Completely hypothetical situation here, let's just assume it's for the greater good)
Also, is it stupidity or just pure laziness to stretch your finger and press the apostrophe so "I" and "m" can have some space?

BTW, if MOTY ever happens, you get my vote as most entertaining member ;D


I can see this snowballing into a flame war, but it's not like I can do anything about it D:

Prince_of_Light March 22nd, 2010 3:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck (Post 5644684)
Because we were much better with our older health care system?
Also, is it stupidity or just pure laziness to stretch your finger and press the apostrophe so "I" and "m" can have some space?

BTW, if MOTY ever happens, you get my vote as most entertaining member ;D


I can see this snowballing into a flame war, but it's not like I can do anything about it D:

Relax, man. If he doesn't want to use apostrophes he doesn't have to. Just because some of us like to use proper grammar even leisurely doesn't mean everyone else has to. It's not like he's writing a term paper or something. =/ Plus, it's a free country. (but maybe not for long...)

NikoBelic999 March 22nd, 2010 3:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck (Post 5644684)
Because we were much better with our older health care system?
I'm not saying this is a perfect bill(far from it), but it is in many ways superior. Of course people will have to pay more taxes, but does it matter if it's for the greater good?(Completely hypothetical situation here, let's just assume it's for the greater good)
Also, is it stupidity or just pure laziness to stretch your finger and press the apostrophe so "I" and "m" can have some space?

BTW, if MOTY ever happens, you get my vote as most entertaining member ;D


I can see this snowballing into a flame war, but it's not like I can do anything about it D:

IT IS NOT FOR THE GREATER GOOD! EVERYBODY WILL BE SCREWED....Democrats suck.....

Simmons_2.0 March 22nd, 2010 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck (Post 5644684)
Because we were much better with our older health care system?
I'm not saying this is a perfect bill(far from it), but it is in many ways superior. Of course people will have to pay more taxes, but does it matter if it's for the greater good?(Completely hypothetical situation here, let's just assume it's for the greater good)
Also, is it stupidity or just pure laziness to stretch your finger and press the apostrophe so "I" and "m" can have some space?

BTW, if MOTY ever happens, you get my vote as most entertaining member ;D


I can see this snowballing into a flame war, but it's not like I can do anything about it D:

Our Old health care may not have been perfect (Pre existing conditions ftl) but it was better than this bill, take a look at what's in it.

Page 429 Lines 10-12: An "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end-of-life plans.. (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?!?)

Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover marriage and family therapy. (Which means Govt will insert itself into your marriage even.)

Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services.

Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced-care planning consultant" will be used frequently as a patient's health deteriorates.

Page 354 Sec 1177: The Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of 'special needs people

.little monster March 22nd, 2010 3:55 PM

^ All false or bent so much you made it false. Paying for something doesn't mean they are involved in it, stoopid.

If I give you 20 dollars to put gas in your car, does that mean I own 20 dollars of your car? No. Exactly. So stfu.

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Originally Posted by NikoBelic999 (Post 5644696)
IT IS NOT FOR THE GREATER GOOD! EVERYBODY WILL BE SCREWED....Democrats suck.....

I thought you were leaving?

Don't lie now. You know, like every other republican does?

Lying is a sin. ;_;


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