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carter756978 March 30th, 2010 8:58 AM

first time i beat him was with lv 87 typhlosion. Second time was with a lv 87 feraligtr

.тαмєя March 30th, 2010 9:02 AM

I plan to Lv up my team to about Lv 72 Until I even attempt Battling Red ;|

Ooka March 30th, 2010 9:07 AM

I've heard as long as you bring plenty of revives he's easy. Hail takes 1/16th of his Pokemon's health each turn, so all of him Pokemon die in 16 turns aside from Lapras without you even attacking. So in 80 turns all of his Pokemon are dead if you don't factor in him healing them. But yeah, I thought he was easy.

The Doctor March 30th, 2010 9:10 AM

I havent fought him yet, my pokemon and in their late 50's and IM ON THE LAST LEADER! Gym Leader Blue. Im trading over my level 100 Magmortar and Venusar though

.hack March 30th, 2010 9:15 AM

I beat him with:
Typloshion lv.79
Heracross lv.82
Miltank lv.81
Lugia= lv.71
Raikou lv.67
-Sacrrfice poke (For reviving)-

A few max revives and Hyper potions and I won first try =D

Amore March 30th, 2010 9:19 AM

Lol.I'm glad he doesn't have an Espeon (Sabrina's killed my Politoed,Marowak,and Lugia without dropping into yellow health.I had to use Draco Meteor, then parahax with Dragonbreath to defeat her-Dialga rules.)

Do you need HMs to get to him?Because if you do, I'll fail.Otherwise...

Marowak will Bone (merang) that Pikachu, Politaro (Politoed) will Surf over Charizard, Bounce Venusaur to death, then my Hypnosis+Substitute+Focus Punch Poli (Poliwrath) will pwn the other 3.Or, if not, Suicune might help

SCV058 March 30th, 2010 9:24 AM

I know you must have Rock Climb. Rock smash and Strength I think, but I'm not sure. Fly will help you leave...if you don't want to go all the way back down.

Ooka March 30th, 2010 9:29 AM

I think all you need is Rock Climb. At least that's all I seem to remember needing. Don't really remember, it's been about 50 hours of gameplay since I battled him. :/

linkinpark187 March 30th, 2010 9:42 AM

I don't remember exact levels, but when I fought him in the Japanese Heart Gold, my Pokémon were in their mid 50's. You don't have to use high level Pokémon, just make sure you have a good strategy going in.

Eggie Poo Poo March 30th, 2010 11:32 AM

It ain't much of a challenge in my opinion, not anywhere near like it was years ago. His Snorlax doesn't have Rest and Snore (a true cheap, lame and extremely frustrating combo, which was the hardest part about Red) making his Snorlax a piece of cake. Also constant hail weakens the Snorlax and all his other Pokemon.

So yeah overall pretty easy. And his Lapras doesn't do squat.

^.hydro March 30th, 2010 11:35 AM

I migrated my team up from Emerald (Below, in my sig) all EV'd lv 100, it was a cake walk

Ooka March 30th, 2010 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ^.hydro (Post 5665206)
I migrated my team up from Emerald (Below, in my sig) all EV'd lv 100, it was a cake walk

That takes the fun out of it though don't you think? I mean, it's fun having a challenge, but having Pokemon that just make it "Click the right move" ends up being pretty boring. :P

But to each their own, I prefer the harder approach, and of course some people like it to be extremely easy. XD

Serene Grace March 30th, 2010 11:39 AM

I plan to have my Pokemon about level 78-85 for my battle against Red. I'm also not going to use any legendaries, just some pretty good tactics (once I come up with them XD.)

CharizardTrainer March 30th, 2010 11:43 AM

I beat him yesterday with only my level 82 Typhloshion and my level 80 Mewtwo. You're going to need pokemon in the 80's to defeat him. Make sure you have a pokemon with Earthquake to get rid of his level 88 Pikachu. It's his highest level pokemon.

I was so happy, though. I got a Charmander from Oak!

Zebeedoo March 30th, 2010 12:00 PM

Hmm... he sounds like a challenge indeed. My Poke'mon are in their 50's right now, but I've got my lv 100 Flareon with me. So hopefully, she'll be enough. =)

Corrupted Yummer March 30th, 2010 3:37 PM

He wasnt too tough once you lost to him a few times and assemble a strategy based on your poke's lvls.

My team was
Typhlosion 66
Staraptor 57
Weavile 53
Ampharos 61
Suicune 47
graveler 44 (picked up on the way for pikachu) always did this in gold/silver.

since his team was boosted about 10lvls each poke i had to use the new weather effected battle "hail" to my advantage.
i eliminated all of his team pretty fast with only 3-5 revives/potions till i hit snorlax. managed to get him to swap it out then after a bit on lapras(only one not affected by the hail) i found the toughest, snorlax was back. couldnt do much since all his moves 1 or 2 hit my team. so i'd either revive and let hail work him over or sneak a flamethrower with typhlosion and repeat. since that kid had 3 full restores it took about 20 minutes. but it was quiet the epic battle. levels dont matter to much. come prepared.

Yoak March 30th, 2010 3:54 PM

I'm toast... I'm struggling as it is.

Typhlosion Lvl 51
Poliwrath lvl 47
Togetic Lvl 46
Jumpluff lvl 47
Pupitar lvl 47
Jirachi lvl 49

How am I going to defeat blue

Bolanboy March 30th, 2010 4:07 PM

I actually thought he was pretty easy, but all my Pokemon were 70-75.

Typhlosion
Crobat
Ampharos
Mismagius
Slowking
Kingler (HM slave)

Only little trouble I had was with his darn Snorlax. :<

NDS525 March 30th, 2010 4:11 PM

I'm guessing that Red is stronger in the remakes because of the stronger AI...

Be prepared and grind!

Kirbychu March 30th, 2010 4:54 PM

I beat him with Pokemon in the mid 50s; first try. It took tons of revives, and my trusty exploding Muk.

Left4Dead March 30th, 2010 4:58 PM

I fought him with my team all around 58 (I have 5 Pokemon) & I got crushed, I tried a few more times but with no luck. So I did some training and I had:
Gliscor
Feraligatr
Flareon
Ampharos &
Togekiss
All at level 67

Sent out Gliscor 1st, Pikachu's Iron tail missed, boom, 1 earthquake and Pikachu is out.
He sent out Lapras and I sent out Ampharos, He used Blizzard & I used thunderbolt which paralyzed him then I used another, boom, Lapras is out.
Then out came Blastoise (WHY?? FAIL!) and the same thing happened with him.
Out comes Charizard, I healed up Ampharos but got killed by Flare blitz, he was paralyzed by Static and took a fair bit of damage off himself, I sent out my level 17 Nidoqueen and used a Max Revive on Ampharos. He kills Nidoqueen and Ampharos thunderbolts him.
Next up is Snorlax, Managed to Paralyze him with thunderwave but he kills me, Togekiss then comes out and I Aura Sphere him to death lol
Then out comes Venusaur and I switch to Gligar, Aerial Ace him a bit but he keeps healing and knocks me out with Giga Drain. I sent Togekiss back out and destroyed him with Air Slash. Boom, Red defeated. :D

Xine March 30th, 2010 7:50 PM

i dunno why everyone's here seems have trouble with that pikachu o.0
i pwn Red with four lvl. 55 and two lvl 70 pokes, lol

my team that time was :
Tyranitar (lvl. 55)
Ho-oh (lvl. 70)
Mewtwo (lvl. 70)
Ampharos (lvl. 55)
Gyarados (lvl. 55)
Lugia (lvl. 55)

Tyranitar can pretty much OHKO Red's charizard and pikachu :)

(yes, this team suck. its because i want to beat the game really quick in my first runthrough in the japanese version)

Katie_Q March 30th, 2010 10:10 PM

Reads all above posts. Sheesh I'm going to need to grind. Hard. *Starts having nightmares of Reds blastoise taking out her fire type team*

Glow Worm's Not Glowing April 2nd, 2010 2:41 PM

I just beat Red now. My team was underleveled, but I finally did it.

Tyranitar - lvl 62
Typhlosion - lvl 62
Ampharos - lvl 61
Breloom - lvl 54
Staraptor - lvl 38
Steelix - lvl 27

Staraptor and Steelix were mainly for insurance purposes so I didn't lose, but it was a tough fight. Pikachu kept pwning my Tyranitar until I finally went in there and he started missing, so I earthquaked him once and kaput. The rest of the battle was smooth sailing.

PokemonLeagueChamp April 2nd, 2010 2:46 PM

I had plenty of Full Restores, 5 regular Pokes, and my TRU Arceus. OHKO on EVERY SINGLE ONE of my first 5. Arceus utterly annihilated Red, barely taking damage.


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