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Chrono April 2nd, 2010 5:34 PM

^ You should try beating him without any legends.

TheClickKid April 2nd, 2010 5:37 PM

Red stomped me. I got to his took down his pikachu and was murked by his Blastiose

ILoveDragonite April 2nd, 2010 5:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glow Worm's Not Glowing (Post 5675280)
I just beat Red now. My team was underleveled, but I finally did it.

Tyranitar - lvl 62
Typhlosion - lvl 62
Ampharos - lvl 61
Breloom - lvl 54
Staraptor - lvl 38
Steelix - lvl 27

Staraptor and Steelix were mainly for insurance purposes so I didn't lose, but it was a tough fight. Pikachu kept pwning my Tyranitar until I finally went in there and he started missing, so I earthquaked him once and kaput. The rest of the battle was smooth sailing.

O_O ....... You beat him with that? God he must be over rated brb killing red.

Gulpin April 2nd, 2010 6:31 PM

He's actually fairly easy if you know what is super effective against his Pokemon. After Blue, my team was level 61, and after spending about 8 hours leveling my whole team to 75 through gym leader rematches I climbed Mr. Silver just to see if I would ever stand a chance. And I swept his team with no sweat. I think he only fainted like 2 of my team O.o

-Jake April 2nd, 2010 7:44 PM

On my second try I beat him with Pokemon in their early 70's. He actually isn't that difficult, it's just the first time I wasn't really thinking.

インフェルノの津波 April 3rd, 2010 12:34 AM

I think he's only tough if you go in without a strategy or you don't know his team. If you do, it's a piece of cake.

humanguy2000 April 3rd, 2010 1:33 AM

I've seen a video of battling red on youtube. His pokemon are from levels 80-90 I think.

seal April 3rd, 2010 2:22 AM

If you bring plenty of Full Restores, use Hail to your advantage and bring along LV70 Ho-oh and Mewtwo he isn't that hard.

Famastar April 3rd, 2010 4:59 AM

He was surprisingly easy for me, I just beat him with a team of 1 level 67 and the rest all around level 70. O.o

TheGearofWar April 3rd, 2010 11:11 AM

I used Gloom, Sneasel, Togetic, Teddiursa, and Chinchou. Most of his Pokemon were 2HKO's, so... Lol

He was pretty easy.

Diablerie April 3rd, 2010 4:40 PM

I took Pikachu on with my Lv51 Golem. He used Iron Tial on Golem, but Golem had one of those berries that cut a super-effective Steel attack in half. Then when it was Golem's turn he used Earthquake and took Pikachu down in one shot.

HDmvp41 April 3rd, 2010 4:57 PM

i beat red with a lvl 75 feraligatr lvl 75 mewtwo lvl 64 ampharos lvl 62 ho-oh and lvl 56 torterra. i ended up using alot of revives lol

Vulpixer April 3rd, 2010 6:28 PM

I went in feeling high and mighty. I forgot how strong he was. I thought he's be just a bit harder than the Kanto Leaders, whom I beat moderately easy enough, but his Pikachu just massacred me. even my prize Arcanine.... I definitly have a lot of grinding to do before then. But I have Mewtwo now and he really helps you out with the whole pikachu problem.

Swolligator April 3rd, 2010 8:16 PM

I managed to pwn red up with just my Lvl 100 Feraligatr. It knew Ice Fang, Crunch, Waterfall and Hydro Pump, only had to revive twice!

Chunes April 3rd, 2010 10:55 PM

I tanked his whole team with level 70 Mewtwo, lol. All you have to do is use a crapton of x defense and special defense and keep healing. A couple of his pokemon I did not even hit with an attack. The hail killed them, lol.

stargate1995 April 3rd, 2010 11:07 PM

How was he strong i owned him with only the lvl 80-85 typlhosion i started with, don't see why everyones saying pikachu was a tank it was probably the second easiest to beat, below the venasuar.The hardest was the lapras as it seemed to take alot more hits then it should.

Stan the man April 3rd, 2010 11:36 PM

Simon (swalot) and hitmonnorris (hitmonlee.) Took him out pretty quickly, no thanks to hitmonorris ( he died half way through pikachu.) as soon as i sent out swalot he switched to blatoise. I had like no hp left when he sent out pikachu so i did the good old pain split and took it down.

Meta-Morph April 3rd, 2010 11:45 PM

Eh, Red is not as tough as he was. If he wasn't a stupid AI, like if he had the programming of a Pokemon Champion(the ones online), he would kill us all.

Yusshin April 4th, 2010 12:28 AM

I'd like to see an AI that understand Super Effective and Not Very Effective attacks lol and basic combinations, like Sunny Day + Solar Beam.

That'd be fun :P

Zachary96 April 10th, 2010 10:01 AM

well i found it pretty easy, i grinded.... SOOOOO much with the pokemon i plan to keep in my party, my invincible team i reckon, are in my signature, i got them all up to 90 and taught my Feraligatr and Sceptile, the ultimate moves (Hydro Cannon + Frenzy Plant) i didnt have sceptile on me at the time, i just had my level 72 Jolteon instead.
Feraligatr - Quality = 90
Jolteon - Skill = 72
Nidoking - Aggression = 90
Magmortar - Respect = 90
Latios - Amazement = 90
Garchomp - Capability = 90

Totodile! April 10th, 2010 10:07 AM

It depends on how tough you trained and also if you have a good tactics to beat him.
He wasn't that tough for me ... the tough part was to train all my pokémon to a high level (I trained to level 82).

GlitchCity April 10th, 2010 11:42 AM

No I havent. Im procrasonating. Im abusing the E4 right now to level up my Team, and I dont plan to use any legendaries when I fight him.

LethalTexture April 10th, 2010 12:05 PM

When I beat him, my team consisted of Pikachu, Charizard, Feraligatr, Golem, Togekiss and Gyarados, all Level 75. I used my Pikachu against his, and despite being 13 levels lower, I was faster. My Pikachu used Thunder, which took off two thirds of Red's Pikachu's HP, and paralysed it. It was unable to move, so on the next turn I used Thunder again, praying that it wouldn't miss. It didn't, and my Pikachu defeated his. I have never been so proud of one of my Pokémon before.

I only used two Full Restores throughout the battle, no revives, and a Set battle style.

KieronGames April 10th, 2010 12:09 PM

well when i was facing red( i lost :( )
when i had my ho-oh which i foolishly turne doff my game and lost ho-oh
i brought him out against his pikachu(pikachu usually uses volt tackle) which wipes ho-oh out but does about 100 damage to pikachu, i switch to geodude and revive ho-oh, geodude does some damage then i switch back to ho-oh who pikachu uses volt tackle on and then pikachu faints due to recoil. thats how you beat pikachu :/

littlealiengirl April 10th, 2010 1:06 PM

I thought he was pretty easy. I climbed Mt Silver for the sake of getting them items and gaining some levels so I didn't go up there thinking I could beat him, I only tried because I was there and I figured why not try. Pikachu went down in one hit to quagsire's earthquake despite her being 22 levels lower. Venusaur fell in one hit to level 60-something skarmory, though that was harder to land. Snorlax and lapras went down quickly to level 70-something hitmonchan. Charizard was brought down by level 70-something mismagius. Blastoise was the only one I had any problem with, I had to revive hitmonchan a few times just to take him down. It would have been a lot easier if Red didn't keep healing him.

Don't listen to those that say you have to have a high level team because you don't. It might make it easier but it all depends on your pokemon and their movesets.


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