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StormerEcho April 3rd, 2010 12:18 PM

'Over Training' Starters?
 
Hey, I know this one kid whos a hopeless-case at pokemon. He always over trains his start and by the time of the 3rd gym he has the final evolution of it. All his other pokemon are untrained and once his starter is gone he looses. I want to help him even though he fails. Got any tips for him?

carter756978 April 3rd, 2010 12:48 PM

during the story line and beating gym leaders i often only use a starter and have him at his final evo really quickly. I see no problem with yuour friends strategy for now.

Timbjerr April 3rd, 2010 12:55 PM

The game is open-ended for a reason. XD

As long as he only does that for the in-game stuff, there's no real problem with it, but if he tries to pull this stuff on wi-fi, he'll learn his lesson's quite quickly. XD

Danick April 3rd, 2010 3:29 PM

Isn't normal for your starter be ahead of the others.

Toxicroak April 3rd, 2010 3:46 PM

i always train my starters instead of other pokes. because by the time you finish training them you go to the next town and the route has pokemon that are the same level as the ones you just wasted your time training.

musesum626 April 3rd, 2010 5:51 PM

I remember I used to do that back in the day. I had some good times with my Feraligatr and Typhlosion (don't remember which one was in my Gold and which was in Crystal) But now I know what it's like to need lots of patience to grind all my other Pokemon. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with just using the starter, as long as it's at a high-enough level.

Sydian April 3rd, 2010 5:54 PM

Nothing wrong with it. My brother and sister used to do that, and my brother still does it sometimes. But it's not some kind of problem or anything. It's just in-game, and I've beaten the E4 with a Blaziken, so he should be fine.

StormerEcho April 3rd, 2010 6:13 PM

I see what you all are saying, but in HG and SS it's harder to do so, and as a result he can't beat the 3rd gym! I told him to train others which he's now doing and that he should be fine now! Thanks.

Kon~ April 4th, 2010 10:43 AM

He just needs to work on the rest of his team for a bit. Even if his starter is still the strongest, having the others a couple of levels less wouldn't hurt.

Christopher April 4th, 2010 11:08 AM

I never train my Starter I catch a few pokes and then put my starter up for good don't know why but I just can't stand them

BlueDartX April 4th, 2010 12:27 PM

Whitney is generally considered the toughest gym leader in kanto, so there's bound to be difficulty. When he gets to Mahogany town, he can simply place an exp share on the other pokemon and keep on going. Revives and hyper potions are all he needs. To me, "over training the starter" is the fastest way to get through the main game.

Decodedd April 4th, 2010 1:26 PM

I actually did that for YEARS, but then realized that my Lvl . 80 Charizard can't go&beat my friends single-handedly .
But I Do recommend trying to train most, if not ALL your team to be even ;D

Limey-chan April 4th, 2010 1:44 PM

In-game you can generally get away with over-training your starter and then having 4 or 5 level 9 HM slaves. Not my style, but each to their own.

HallwayKid April 4th, 2010 1:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDartX (Post 5682294)
Whitney is generally considered the toughest gym leader in kanto, so there's bound to be difficulty. When he gets to Mahogany town, he can simply place an exp share on the other pokemon and keep on going. Revives and hyper potions are all he needs. To me, "over training the starter" is the fastest way to get through the main game.

Geography Check: Whitney is found in the Johto Region, but I'm sure you where probably typing to fast to realize what you had said.

Training your Pokemon equally or having one strong one, it depends on the style of the person. Having one strong one gets you through the games quicker but having multiple strong Pokemon makes it fun (at least for me that's the case).

SethOmega April 4th, 2010 2:14 PM

In Sapphire and Emerald, I will usually get Mudkip and shortly after get Ralts. I keep these pokemon until the end area, where I get Lairon. With these three pokemon I beat the Championship. Overtraining is not always a bad thing, but you need to know HOW to overtrain. I reccomend a few lower level pokemon that you can switch to when you need to heal or revive your main one. Also, I recommend a lot of Ethers and Elixers for long battles.

Kon~ April 4th, 2010 2:37 PM

If having trouble with Whitney, don't worry, that's the hardest battle at this point in the game. (Took me three tries with a balanced team at 3 levels higher than her, so... -.-'')

Just find a way to indispose her Miltank and whittle away, until she heals it (or it heals itself, bloody Milk Drink) and whittle some more. Even if your mate's starter is high levelled, it probably can't survive on its own unless there's backup to be sent out while he heals up his starter, and then go at it again.

Kristine April 4th, 2010 6:15 PM

Let your friend have his fun. :P This game can be completed with any team of Pokemon for a reason. In almost all of my Pokemon games, my starter has been way ahead of my other Pokemon until the fourth or fifth gym; I see no problem with your friend's strategy. Eventually he'll catch and train other Pokemon too.

big NATE alpha April 4th, 2010 6:18 PM

Yeah, I never really did it too much, but my brother has always done that (i.e., in Platinum, his starter is level 40-something and everything else is in their twenties. The bad part: He chose chimchar and is going up against Wake... bad match up, don'tcha think?). The best solution: Stick an exp. share on a Pokemon, and grind for a while. Lather, rinse, and repeat (:P) until you have a strong enough team to continue. It gets really boring (trust me, I know, I had to do that with my ENTIRE team in Platinum), but it's worth it.

GlitchCity April 5th, 2010 5:39 PM

I do that in every game, nothings wrong with that. Try doing it with 2 pokemon. In my platinum, my little starly and chimchar were fully evolved and at lv 42 before I reached the 3rd gym.

Ninja Caterpie April 5th, 2010 5:42 PM

Are you serious?

I beat Whitney with just my Quilava...and I had trained up three other Pokemon! O_O

Rock Smash is your buddy here, guys. Nobody ever remembers that the HMs have types too...

I usually run with only two Pokemon, usually picked to cover each other's weaknesses. That way, I don't only rely on one Pokemon and I don't have to grind, ever. I ABSOLUTELY HATE GRINDING.

Yusshin April 5th, 2010 11:54 PM

Ever since R/B/Y, I always train to the same level, and never train one super-strong. My brother would sometimes play my game and raise my Blastoise to 60 and the rest would be 30, and it always angered me :s It's not a balanced gameplay.

As long as it's in-game, it won't hurt anyone.

Vociferocity April 6th, 2010 12:24 AM

up until the elite four, my team is only three strong pokemon. my strategy (up until then) is to just pad out my team with weaker pokemon and have a truckload of revives/max potions, just in case I haven't trained my main pokemon enough. but when I hit victory road, I start thinking about strategy and pick out and train other pokemon. but those first three pokemon are always the strongest in my team.

Hydra April 6th, 2010 7:43 PM

I usually quit using my starter in the 20s. And try to keep my pokemon all the same level.

Izanagi April 6th, 2010 7:57 PM

I never over-train anything exept the powerhouse of my team. I try to keep it all balanced.

Destiny Bond April 7th, 2010 3:58 AM

Its not good when theres only like one super high level pokemon and the others are just useless.
He has to train the others to make a balenced team or nothing will work properly (unless its battling with those fail bug catchers)


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