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StormerEcho April 3rd, 2010 12:26 PM

Elite 4 Strategy (first time)
 
Hey people! I'm about to go to the Elite 4 for the first time and I'm pretty nervous since I don't remember anything from it. I was wondering if you people have any suggestions for it. Here's my Party as of now.

Lvl 45 Ho-oh
lvl 42 Entei
lvl 38 Maganium
lvl 37 Kangaskan
lvl 37 Gyrados
and maybe a lvl 55 Dragonite?
All of them by the time I will be 40+.
Have any strategies?

Gooner_Tyzack April 3rd, 2010 1:08 PM

I think you'll have a hard time.... I use a lvl 70 typhlosion and then 35+ pokemon and i can't beat lance....You need a good ice pokemon around 50. Preferably with an Hypnosis or something...
But if i was you just try it... You'll find out what you need to work on from it. :D

StormerEcho April 3rd, 2010 1:16 PM

Yeah well my Gyrados knows Ice Fang while my Kangaskan knows outrage and avalanche they both can hit pretty hard.

Amore April 3rd, 2010 1:19 PM

Just average your team out.

I beat Lance, although Aerodactyl haxxed me to death w flinch/paralysis

My team:

Typhlosion
Politoed
Marowak
Dialga
Lugia
Pikachu-Coloured-Pichu

Averaged around lv.45, I think Politoed was 47 and Dialga only 42.

Pichu was lv.37, used for "free" recovery

EJ April 3rd, 2010 1:22 PM

Just wing it, you'll have fun ;)

Although I suggest bringing about 10-15 revives, and about the same for full restores.

AssumingRain April 3rd, 2010 1:29 PM

You need stronger pokemon than that! Go into victory road and fight whatever you see, until you get to atleast 46. Lance will dominate you otherwise.

My stragety was this:

All my pokemon were around 45 or so. I bought around 35 hyperpotions, 15 elixers; 5 full restores; 20 full heals; and I had 3 max revives for last resorts in a battle.

Will was difficult. his xatu came at me with a rough start, and I really had difficulty keeping up with it. I beat him though, maxing out on hyper potions, and the only thing that really gave me trouble was his slowbro, since its defenses were so high after he raised them. The next two took no stragety. The poison guy used alot of bugs, which my pidgeot dominated. Bruno, once again, was dominated by my pidgeot. The fourth one really gave me trouble though, since she was dark. I kept strong and finished her off though. Lance was a beast, as expected. I took out his areodactyl and his charizard with ease. his gyarados and his 3 dragonites...not so much. For the next bit, I sent out lugia and kept using areoblast. when I ran out, I'd use an elixer, when he was low on health, I'd use a hyper potion.

My strategy, overall, was to stock up on medicine, get my pokemon up to the 45s and to OD them on meds when the going got tough lol.If you do that, you should be fine. Also, a thunder or an Ice beam will really help you.

EJ April 3rd, 2010 1:35 PM

I do suggest like, everybody has said, to have your pokemon at around level 45-ish. It will be still be hard but you'll have a much better chance than with what you have now.

Gooner_Tyzack April 3rd, 2010 1:35 PM

Where do you find Elixirs? I can't seem to find them at stores and my typhosions moves run out quickly :/

Gulpin April 3rd, 2010 1:37 PM

First off, get a good well-rounded team. It was fairly easy for me with the team in my signature plus one to save you (switch in to heal up and revive then let it faint then switch in whatever you revived to sweep). Next, get your team to a reasonable level (I went in at level 47, but 45 should be the least). Then teach something a good ice typed move. (I taught Politoed a traded over Ice Beam TM). Then go in. With a good well-rounded team each with well rounded movesets, you should make it. Just know the opponents team and each of their team members weaknesses. If you have STAB, use that Pokemon. If you don't, use a Pokemon with a strong move that will be effective. If you do things right, you should get through fairly easily. Before Lance give your ice move user all your rare candies (or so it will be around level 51). Then go in and do the same thing against Lance with what you did with the others, and use your level 51 ice user to hit the Dragonites.

Here is my strategy I typed out for reference:

Will

Xatu vs. Ampharos OHKO
Jynx vs. Typhlosion OHKO
Xatu vs. Ampharos OHKO
Slowbro vs. Bellossom
Exeggutor vs. Ampharos OHKO
Koga

Ariados vs. Typhlosion OHKO
Forretress vs. Typhlosion OHKO
Venomoth vs. Typhlosion OHKO
Muk vs. Typhlosion 2HKO
Crobat vs. Ampharos OHKO
Bruno

Hitmontop vs. Togekiss 2HKO
Hitmonlee vs. Ampharos 2HKO
Onix vs. Politoed OHKO
Hitmonchan vs. Togekiss and Typhlosion
Machamp vs. Ampharos, Politoed and Typhlosion
Karen

Umbreon vs. Togekiss
Gengar vs. Typhlosion
Houndoom vs. Politoed 2HKO
Murkrow vs. Ampharos OHKO
Vileplume vs. Typhlosion OHKO
Lance

Gyrados vs. Ampharos
Charizard vs. Ampharos and Politoed
Dragonite vs. Politoed and Ampharos
Aerodactyl vs. Politoed and Ampharos
Dragonite vs. Politoed and Ampharos
Dragonite vs. Politoed and Ampharos


Electric, Ice, Rock, Ghost, Dark (Xatu)
Fire, Bug, Rock, Ghost, Dark, Steel (Jynx)
Electric, Grass, Bug, Ghost, Dark (Slowbro)
Fire, Ice, Poison, Flying, Bug, Ghost, Dark (Exeggutor)

Fire, Flying, Psychic, Rock (Ariados)
Fire (Forretress)
Fire, Flying, Psychic, Rock (Venomoth)
Ground, Psychic (Muk)
Electric, Ice, Psychic, Rock (Crobat)

Flying, Psychic (Hitmontop)
Flying, Psychic (Hitmonlee)
Water, Grass, Ice, Fighting, Ground, Steel (Onix)
Flying, Psychic (Hitmonchan)
Flying, Psychic (Machamp)

Fighting, Bug (Umbreon)
Ground, Psychic, Ghost, Dark (Gengar)
Water, Fighting, Ground, Rock (Houndoom)
Electric, Ice, Rock (Murkrow)
Fire, Ice, Flying, Psychic (Vileplume)

Electric, Rock (Gyrados)
Water, Electric, Rock (Charizard)
Ice, Dragon (Dragonite)
Water, Electric, Ice, Rock, Steel (Aerodactyl)
Ice, Dragon (Dragonite)
Ice, Dragon (Dragonite)


Bold means 4x affective, normal type means 2x affective, everything else is either 1x, .5x, .25x, or 0x affective.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooner_Tyzack (Post 5678735)
Where do you find Elixirs? I can't seem to find them at stores and my typhosions moves run out quickly :/

You have to find elixers in the wild. Just go through every route picking things up that you didn't the first time through.

StormerEcho April 3rd, 2010 1:42 PM

Wow thanks for all the replies but the money seems really hard to get even after I took it from my mom. Training will be devious but it'll be worth it. Also should I bring in a Jolteon or something else? Since I have 2 ice attacks and one of them has outrage it'll be easier against lance (MY Kangaskan and Gyrados) Since my Gyrados beat Claire at lv 31-33 it could take Lance at like lvl 45+?

SethOmega April 3rd, 2010 1:43 PM

One thing that is a problem for ANY Pokemon League is PP. From the start, you should start storing any PPups or Ethers or Elixers in the PC, and now is the time to take them out. Try to use moves that have under 8 PP only when needed. Good Luck!

EJ April 3rd, 2010 1:46 PM

To be honest, my toughest battle against Lance were Gyarados and the outraging Dragonite, so just go prepared and do what you can to give yourself the advantage (legit). If you need to trade your pokemon to sinnoh and train them over there, do it, or if you need to drop a member for a much better member, do it as well. This is the Elite 4 and they are brutal (especially Karen and Lance).

StormerEcho April 3rd, 2010 1:51 PM

Or I could 'cheat' by trading my good pokemon over from my Jap SS lol but that's a last resort! >:(

EJ April 3rd, 2010 1:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StormerEcho (Post 5678782)
Or I could 'cheat' by trading my good pokemon over from my Jap SS lol but that's a last resort! >:(

I traded over a golem and a totodile to help me out. hahaha Do whatever you feel like doing.

StormerEcho April 3rd, 2010 1:56 PM

Ok lol that just took out some guilt if I did that!
Thanks everyone keep on Suggesting I want to beat them on my FIRST try! And I know you all are good at strategies!

BeachBoy April 3rd, 2010 1:57 PM

[ My elite four strategy ] get a yanma, now.

Quote:

Wow thanks for all the replies but the money seems really hard to get even after I took it from my mom. Training will be devious but it'll be worth it. Also should I bring in a Jolteon or something else? Since I have 2 ice attacks and one of them has outrage it'll be easier against lance (MY Kangaskan and Gyrados) Since my Gyrados beat Claire at lv 31-33 it could take Lance at like lvl 45+?
Yes about Gyarados and Jolteon. I used Raikou (lv 47) and Gyarados (lv 46) and they were great. Lance was a challenge for me simply because I refuse to use healing items in the game. XD;

StormerEcho April 3rd, 2010 1:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeachBoy (Post 5678796)
[ My elite four strategy ] get a yanma, now.

Yes about Gyarados and Jolteon. I used Raikou (lv 47) and Gyarados (lv 46) and they were great. Lance was a challenge for me simply because I refuse to use healing items in the game. XD;

I was trying to catch Raikou actually for it but I can't seem to do it, Oh well I'll trade it from my SS and use it instead of Jolteon, I'll make my Eevee an Espeon!

Sudeki April 3rd, 2010 2:02 PM

For money, Set your clock to Tuesday, Go to the Lighthouse, and call Gentlemen Alfred, and keep rebattling him, And use an Amulet coin if you can. He has a lvl 36 Noctowl, that will give you around 1000 exp per battle, and 7k Money, And 14k money with amulet coin, and you can just keep calling him and battling him, at least 30 times a day.
You will end up getting like 300-400k by the time your done, I did this only two days, (Spent about 30minutes each), And got like 100 ultra balls,100 Full restores,80 Hyper Potions,60 Full heals, 50 Escape ropes,100 max repels. and a ton of other stuff.
And for the e4, just get 1-3 pokes with good types/stats at around lvl 45-50 and your good.
I beat the e4 with a lvl 48-52 Alakazam, and lvl 45-48 Scizor.

StormerEcho April 3rd, 2010 2:03 PM

Yeah I would try to get a Sizor but I don't have Scyther (bug catching contest today) or Metal Coat (have no clue on getting it)!!!

Sudeki April 3rd, 2010 2:05 PM

For the Metal coat just get 2500 points on friday at the pokeathalon, If you want I can trade you an Adamant Scyther with Technician ability, holding a Metal coat for free if you want?

I can get like 800 points a run at the pokeatholon, which only takes like 5minutes.
Since I get around 500points from the events, then a Bonus 300 since I do the "Supreme Cup" ones.

EJ April 3rd, 2010 2:10 PM

Nobody's judging you bro lol, just along as you feel okay with the way you won against the E4.

@beachboy: i just read your yanma blog thing. Wow, that's pretty impressive =]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudeki (Post 5678808)
For money
You will end up getting like 300-400k by the time your done

SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN!

StormerEcho April 3rd, 2010 2:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudeki (Post 5678817)
For the Metal coat just get 2500 points on friday at the pokeathalon, If you want I can trade you an Adamant Scyther with Technician ability, holding a Metal coat for free if you want?

I can get like 800 points a run at the pokeatholon, which only takes like 5minutes.
Since I get around 500points from the events, then a Bonus 300 since I do the "Supreme Cup" ones.

Lol can you please trade me the Scyther cuz they are beast! :) I'll do it when you want to!

Sudeki April 3rd, 2010 2:34 PM

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Originally Posted by StormerEcho (Post 5678905)
Lol can you please trade me the Scyther cuz they are beast! :) I'll do it when you want to!

Well I'll add your FC, But do you think we can do the trade later tonight? Like say 9pm(Pacific)? Got stuff to do today, and I'll need to breed and get the points.

Impo April 3rd, 2010 2:43 PM

beating the elite is easy, the champ is tough.

my specs-kazam blasted through all 4 elites.
but that bloody aerodactyl of lances is really annoying :(
i have EV trained both my new Dragonite and Alakazam though,
so i think i will do better ;) .
you'll want a fast pkmn with ice type moves for Lance,
all the other elites are quite easy with lvl 40 + pkmn

Sudeki April 3rd, 2010 2:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impo (Post 5678931)
beating the elite is easy, the champ is tough.

my specs-kazam blasted through all 4 elites.
but that bloody aerodactyl of lances is really annoying :(
i have EV trained both my new Dragonite and Alakazam though,
so i think i will do better ;) .
you'll want a fast pkmn with ice type moves for Lance,
all the other elites are quite easy with lvl 40 + pkmn

Your Alakazam should be able to 1HKO Lance at around lvl 50.
My Modest/EV trained Alakazam can 1hit all of Lances pokemon, Without Ice moves xD.
Get Charge beam and Psychic.
Use Charge beam on Gyarados,Charizard,Aerodactyl. 70% chance of Sp atk going up with each Use, and you should be able to 1hit all 3 of those with Charge beam, And then use Psychic with the boosts, and you will be able to 1hit all 3 dragonites.

Well to OP:Im getting off now, But I'll hop on wifi around 9 to see if your there.


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