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Didn't You Wish For A Longer Adventure In HG&SS?
Didn't You Wish For A Longer Adventure In HG&SS? I was wondering what you people would think, would or wouldn't of you liked a longer adventure? That's why I've made this thread to see what you think! As for me, yes I would of liked a longer adventure. Maybe even all of the regions in one, as I love pokemon games that much. :) P.s - This was approved by Hiiro.<3 Coolest Mod Ever! :D |
I just reached Kanto after 80h of training in Johto, so not really lol :s
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Yeah sorry, but I'm perfectly satisfied with the game's length... Just having two regions and sixteen gym leaders is awesome in my opinion...
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Well, it was a remake, so we all knew how long the adventure was going to be in the first place.
But no, I think the adventure was long enough. I guess I would have liked spots with higher level trainers, maybe with pokemon around levels 60-70 after you beat Red; that you could face over and over (for endgame training.) I guess we got that with E4 rematches though. |
I think it's pretty well perfect the length it is. n.n
A few more major story points in Kanto would've been nice, but that's okay. It was still fun running around every route, beating up trainers for a day or two, and then wiping five of the gym leaders in a matter of an hour (Excluding Lt. Surge and Janine. For whatever reason, I beat them along the way.) And then beating Blue the next morning. - Tyros |
I liked the length of the game, I just beat it 16 badges and all that yesterday and I'm pretty pleased with the game. I don't like how they added legendaries from past generations in this game though. I didn't like it in Platinum either.
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If you added any more regions, the game would just get boring.
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I do wish for a longer adventure, just a little bit longer. Maybe if the player got 16 badges, there would be events before Red so I don't have to level grind for him.
And lol, if they did put all the regions in one, the first Elite Four would be like, level 20 or something. :D |
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Yeah, i just regret beating Red in 30 hours >.<
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Also, if you included all the regions, what level would the Elite Four in the first one be? 35? |
Nope because I want to finish the game fast!
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(That also gives me an idea for my hack. xD) |
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All I have to say on the matter is that I love how people want HG/SS to be longer, despite it already being the longest Pokemon game to date.
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Not everybody, just most.
I'm perfectly content with the length; it's a good game. |
All regions would be epic, and something that I long wished for, but this was meant to be this way.
The game is almost of a perfect length. What I needed was more of a story and involvement, and the Kimono girls not having any relation to the legendary event in the game. I hated that part, and thought the story could be made more detailed and of a greater amount. But the length of the game as a whole is just perfect. But me being a Pokefan would never mind more... If they did make a game with all regions, just doing something like you being forced to keep all your Pokemon from one region in that region until you finish the game solves the level problem. It might sound annoying, but anyone who enjoys Pokemon would end up loving it instead of a youngster having a level 85 Ratatta by the time you get to the fourth region. |
If they're gonna make a game with all regions, it should be on a bigger system, such as Xbox or PS3...but they should just come out with one anyway :P
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I wish for a Pokémon game where we get to travel from Kanto to Johto to Hoenn then to Sinnoh. For the lulz. ._.
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I'm happy with the length. I have 69 hours and 13 badges so far. Its gonna take a hell-of-a-long time to train to beat Red, so I'm happy with the length. GREAT game!
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Yeah, like what Ash did.
@Ashley: that'd be awesome but if anything expect it on the Wii lol. |
if they added sinnoh that would be amazing. :3
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I did kinda wish it was longer (I flew by all the gyms in Kanto), but nonetheless, it's an awesome game! =D I always dream of the ultimate game when they have all the regions, but then what would be the next trick up their sleeve? So, they just have to keep on squeezing the juice out of pokemon T_T
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Maybe just a little bit longer would be good, but I am overall pleased with the length. But what I would've like more than anything was if that they made major point story events in Kanto, not just the Team Rocket grunt stealing the Power Plant part - and Suicune chase.
I like how they included legendaries form the older games but Latios, Latias, Groudon,Kyroge,Raquaza,Dialga,Palkia,Girantina,Arceus? NNO! |
It would be sooooo awesome if they made a Pokemon game where you actually play as Ash and start in Pallet town (I guess like Red) but you go all the way through all 4 regions, and since it would be a Generation 5 game it could have even a 5th region. But I'd want it on the DS so it would be portable.
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For me, I just wish that the game was harder. I only had Typhlosion and Ampharos and Arbok as permanent team members and I beat the entire game. Then with Lugia Ho-Oh and Mewtwo I was able to beat Red when my team was in its 50's.
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Well, there's a lot of different opinions now. :)
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there should have been trainers around Mt silver to lengthen the story a little and to help train for red.
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The only way it could be better would've been possibly inserting Hoenn, but then you'd have to have Falkner under lv.10, and Lance wouldn't even hit lv.40 with his hacked Dragonite (lv.40 being the lowest it appears in the game)
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I liked it but it felt like something was missing. It didn't quite feel "epic" at all. I, since I have
Heartgold, felt a bit let down by the Ho-oh part since I was expecting something exciting to happen like a dramatic plot twist, only to be let down by some girls doing a dance and then Ho-oh appears and then afterwards, they didn't even say a word to me.Only when I talked to them myself, but it was something like a one line comment on capturing it. And the Kanto part, there felt like there was something missing there too, I know it was just like an "extra" but I think they could have at least added some kind of "mini" plot to it, something a bit more deep than the fact that the powerplant was broken. Ohwell, I guess I was pleased, but I do think it could have been a little better to make me happier with it. |
The initial adventure in Johto is a great length. Its short enough to make it fairly quick, but long enough and doesn't drag it on and on.
Kanto is optional, so its your own pace. |
I think they should create a harder game aimed at an older audience. This game (Heart Gold) just seems to be the easiest yet. I walked over the elite four with Scizor swords dance, agility then a x scissor takes down anything...
It would be great if we could visit all of the regions in one game. I would like to see the orange islands as well. first post by the way hey everyone :D |
harder yes. longer no.
I was exhausted after 2 whole storylines, 16 gyms and what is virtually an elite 9. Now I see that the key to a successfully lengthy game is an additional region. Because Nintendo can't fit more than one epic storyline into a region without squashing it up. So they try to make up with crappy islands. Resort Area? Sorry nintendo, no. |
I think it was good length , i only bought it to remember the old ones :P and looked good.
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I'm happy with SS/HG, but it would be cool if the game went on from Kanto. |
As I just finished SoulSilver (on a ROM, since I haven't got the game yet.. -.- - not completely finished, but i've beat all the gym leaders, beat Red, beat the Elite four again and caught these legendaries: Latios, Mewtwo, Zapdos, Lugia, Ho-Oh.) I have to say I was pretty happy with it. It was long enough in my opinion, and I was really impressed with it. Kanto pissed me off at some points though. (mainly due to the lack of storyline and ERIKA'S GYM LAYOUT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :L)
However, Johto was amazing. It was just as long as I wanted it to be. |
I think everyone wishes for a longer pokemon adventure, but in all fairness to nintendo HG/SS are pretty long so i am pretty satisfied.
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Well, it was about the same as DPPt.
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Asides from legendary hunting, completing the Pokédex (which is now easier than ever), the Pokéthlon, the Safari Zone and its ever-changing layout, and the Battle Frontier, there's not much to do after you beat Red. A longer post-Red storyline would be nice, and a more difficult storyline would be fantastic (Whitney's hard enough, though, so nix that).
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I think it's great, but who wouldn't wish for a bigger one?
I would love every region, or better, every region and custom-generated ones that aren't a blur a pixels! But how can that fit on a tiny cartridge... |
i would have liked there to be just a bit more to kanto, i literally got 5 badges in one day just flying from city to city whomping on the gym leaders. i still think the orange islands would be nice, either before or after red, and having a kanto elite four as well as a johto elite four. But 16 badges, plus the little mini quests in kanto, and training/beating red makes for a pretty long game.
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Well now it look's like some other people are agreeing with me. :)
Also, Orange islands would be wonderful. :D |
I would have liked more battles against team rockect but other than that i thing the length is awesome i always wished for more gyms and now there is 16
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What was there to do after you finished the Sevii Islands in FR/LG, after you finished the Battle Zone in D/P/Pt, and after you beat the Elite Four in R/S/E? You seem to be implying that HG/SS are the only games like this, when in reality all Pokemon games are like this. I'd expect HG/SS to get more credit than it's getting for being being a fair bit longer than any other Pokemon game, with G/S/C the only ones coming close. |
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But they have to make ultra awesome random-generated regions. |
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Kanto is like a filmed hell . 0_o Lv. 8 Ratatta appeared ! Go Lv. 65 Typhlosion !
I quite rushed this ... I've already beaten 7 Gyms and I got the game on the 2nd of April . The adventure is long enough (2 regions, 16 leaders, IMO), but I quite rushed ... I am currently un-rushing (does that word actually exist ) to lengthen this game . |
I agree with Chimchar 9, it would be cool with a longer adventure, since I'm not into this competetive stuff. But not like an adventure that you have to do, and then be able to "move on" in the game. I would rather have side-quests, that you can do whenever you want. Like someone mentioned earlier, the Orange Islands would be awesome =D And then a super pokemon leaugue, that have pokemon up to level 80 from all kind of regions... ='P
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Of course a longer adventure would be cool, but maybe a lot of you really need to just ration your games? I've had SoulSilver since a few days after it came out, and I haven't even beat the Elite 4 yet. It's not like I've been distracting myself with other parts of the game either, I played Voltorb Flip once, and haven't even tried the Pokethalon.
I don't know, I just don't feel satisfied after beating a game in a few days, but that's just me. |
I agree, they should have made it longer but they really need to work on endings, Spoiler if you havent beat pokemon Gold, Silver, Crystal, Heart Gold, or Soul Silver! Like all you do is climb Mt. Silver see Pokemon Trainer Red, Hes all like "............" You beat him hes all like ".........." (again) and like, its over, Done, Game set and match. But tghey could make things a lot longer by haveing places from the shows and movies in the games. Aswell an idea I thought of was haveing all the regions in one game and name it something like, Pokemon Saga's, Something with a catchy name, and choose between a pokemon trainer and a coordinator and have some new system for that, but you know just my idea.
*EDIT* Also for a longer adventure when you trade arcues over do the event in HG/SS you're at the Sinjo Ruins, A place that was said to connect Sinnoh and Johto Regions, After I did this event I thought "Maybe you can go to Sinnoh?" But you can't :( the location on the map is gone! |
i did the only chalenge is red.
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Sure, the games could have more content after the main storyline is finished (I always get bored with the games once I beat the Elite Four), but what would they do? Add in another region? I'm not so sure that the games could support the addition of a third region (at least on the NDS cards). It'd need to be more than just throwing in more regions to do the trick, as they would only delay the time it takes to complete the storyline and get bored. Some new gameplay mechanics could be added that would make things more exciting and keep people playing. We have Pokemon friendship values, so why not make it so that the players can romance one of the NPCs (a la Harvest Moon)? Or hell, even being allowed to set up a gym would be nice (or maybe an event where you can look over an existing gym leader's gym while they go do something), and face five or so trainers (yea, similar to the Battle Facilities, but Nintendo could change things up for this one).
There's more that can be done with the series to make the gameplay longer, but adding new regions isn't the best of them. |
Well, I plowed through the game pretty fast, but I never expected to go to Kanto in the first place so that was a big surprise. I thought the game was decently long.
Besides, I intend to play this game for a while. Fill up pokedex, battle people online, train pokemon, etc. |
I really enjoyed Heart Gold mostly because gold was my favorite game out of the series, but after only 70 hours im at red... kinda short for me....haha. Another thing is that now, when the national dex contains 493 pokemon, 150+ ill have to trade from my other games....its kinda excessive. It would be fine if they include another region or two so you can "catch them all" and just to add some more gameplay to the game.
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For someone who isn't a Pokeaddict, I think it's a decent length. Sure they could've added couple more new stuff but they probably reserve that for the next generation which is probably going to be innovative in the Wi-Fi department (setting up your own Gym, as Maxite said, would be very possible especially over Wi-Fi). Also, you have to remember that this is a remake of an old game so they can't really change the story line or anything =/
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mmmm sure it could of have a longer length but it turned out great it was way better than platnium or daimond.
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I want more length in Kanto. No new regions and for Nintendo to use the 2Gb chip. Or the newly-made 4Gb! (I'm speaking sizes here)
EDIT: But you can catch nearly 470 guys legally, that's good. |
Also, wouldn't it be good if the pokemon's level could go above 100? :\
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I'll be honest, I rushed through my adventure on my Japanese Soul Silver and found it to be quite long. I mean, I must have clocked 40 hours or so before I finished. So I'm satisfied with the length of the main story, not to mention the fact that there are so many things for you to do along the way in the means of side quests.
As for my second run I'll be taking it very slow and very sparingly and recording my daily events and actions within my journal to ensure that I don't speed through the game and regret not making the most of it. All in all I think it's a good length, it's longer than the originals I might add. HG/SS live up to what they should have been in my eyes but I think that the power of nostalgia can fathom a reason as to why people may not be satisfied with the adventure. |
no... its probably the longest pokemon game i've played. i still havnt beaten red and i've got 98 hours, but thats mainly coz i've been catching pokemon. if u think HGSS was short, then wat did u think of dpt?
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Hmm... Johto was a good length, but I pwned Kanto in a little more than 3 hours, compared to Johto's, what, 57 hrs. ?
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i think 16 badges a frontier multiple legends pokeathlon and so on are all great. lengthening it wouldnt hurt but its already as good as it can get in my mind |
well, i think its the longest pokemon game. you can obtain 16 bagdes.
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I liked the game as it was. Having more regions as it were would have ruined it, because the gym leaders and elite 4 in the third and fourth regions would have all been similar levels (around 90-100).
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I agree they should have more adventures in the game.... especially the team rocket
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In all honesty, I think it's perfect the way it is. What could have been interesting is doing something similar to Fallout 3, though. No, not the post apocalyptic world, but side quests. From the major to the insignificant. Could have been interesting...but that doesn't mean it would make it better! ;)
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Too short for me, beat it in 18 hours and 58 mins........kinda disappointed :/ but thts why i bought a copy of HG and SS repaly it as many times as i want :D
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I was only disappointed with Team Rocket's amount of time. I was kind of hoping they'd be expanded upon in Kanto, but no. Other then that, it's a pretty good length. I still haven't beaten Red after... 62:05. Yeah, that's a good length.
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Yeah, if it gets more regions, well, I'll probably love it...
But the problem is the Trainers in the region. Imagine a Fisherman having 6 level 80 Magikarps XD. So maybe: Johto: 1-30 Kanto: 31-50 Hoenn: 51-70 Sinnoh: 71-100 ...But If they made that in the DS, it would be really amazing... |
It's enough for me ... 2 regions, 16 badges ... what more could you possibly want?
I would love to have a game with all the regions possible to access ... but it would be a lot of work and it will probably take 2-3 years even if GameFreak has a big team working on it. So yeah ... I think that's enough ;] |
No this was the longest adventure i have ever played, i started pokemon at FR/LG so i never played G/S/C.
I enjoyed it and if it was any longer it would spoil the game. ( Still have to beat Red though, and MY TEAM IS ONLY IN THEIR 60's and i have NOBODY to train against.... Life hates me ) |
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all the other games are short but i was expecting a long game in hg/ss
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I thought the Johto gyms were fast and easy but in kanto It has really slowed me down
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I'm still trying to train up for the Elite Four, so this game is currently satisfying me well in terms of length. Then again, I had no problem with the length in Gold either.
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Kanto isn't all that great in my opinion :-(
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Having all regions on 1 game card wouldn't be possible(I think). It would also be a stupid move on Nintendo's part... Its not going to happen so stop making threads mentioning that. As for the adventure length not at all. Its a pretty long game (70+ hours leisurely?) and compared to games of today(10-15 hours) thats a long time... Also the things you can do when the game is over are virtually limitless.
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i beat the game in like 36 hours (They should have added Hoenn and Sinnoh)
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Kinda wished that Kanto started over
like gym leaders levels and stuff that way you could start a new team with the Kanto starter you get from Oak but besides that i think the game was fine |
I'm only about to first encounter the elite 4, and then I journey through a whole other region. I think the length is perfect, it feels longer than any other game just because of the 2 regions.
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30 hours in and have only just entered Victory Road. :3
Been taking the adventure around Johto nice and slow, been enjoying the training in familiar old areas and speaking to the characters. I think the length (from what I hear) is fine. :3 |
No the adventure length was fine, but i would have loved more stuff to do after you beat the game (Yeah there's red and legends but i mean a little after story...Maybe help one of the gym leaders do something.)
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They need to make a game encompassing dozens of little side quests, a trainer maker option, a "make your own story" mode, a starting region selection, and a "earn the starter of your choice" mechanic into the game. Cram that into a DS game and you have a great seller for sure!
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Or become your own Gym Leader?
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Well, technically, no. I'm never satisfied with anyone Pokemon game's length. They always seem a bit too short for my liking, even though I absolutely love the series. For example, my copy of Pokemon Pearl took only five days to defeat the entire Elite Four, and I'm talking five days from the launch date. I would hope that, in Pokemon Black and White, they go the extra mile and add two extra regions into the game (Kanto and Sinnoh, Kanto and Johto, Kanto and Hoenn, ect, ect). Imagine collecting twenty-four badges, and facing that area's Elite Four! Now that is a Pokemon game that would take a decent amount of time to beat.
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Seriously, whilst I feel some game mechanics of the entire series could be improved 70 hours game play in reality is long, not everyone is going to be able to sail through the same, Nintendo have to take into account the whole market - Hardcore Pokefan's will be able to cruise through the game in a matter of days (hence why they try to give a fair amount to do aftergame.) But they also need to factor that not everyone can play for endless hours but still want to complete the game in a reasonable timeframe (a year, a month etc) It all comes down to the fact that, no matter what Nintendo do to the games, their will always be something to complain about :-P (edit; Team Rocket really could have had more of a impact on Johto in the remake though! I whole heartedly agree there!) Black/White seem to be adding some interesting factors to the game (so they say) so lets hope (just don't get to hopeful :P) that they will spice the game up! |
Nah, I don't wish for a longer Adventure, I like it the way it is. Plus, Playing it about 4 times in a row, Noooo, it's perfect as it is.
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I would have liked some Hoehn (Which I can NEVER spell right T.T), but I think with 2 regions, Lugia/Ho-oh, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Latios/Latias, Kyogre/Groudon, Dialga/Palkia/Girantina, it's a pretty complete game.
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The adventure was WAY too short, especially since there are two regions!
I was hoping they would, I don't know, make it a little more challenging? With all these newcomers to Pokemon nowadays, most of them kids, Game Freak has been making the games a whole lot easier. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum were just jokes, they were insanely easy. In the end, it's not the content in the games. I mean, they added a Pokethlon, a Battle Frontier, and a completely reinvented Safari Zone. And a lot of legendaries, too. They added a lot of stuff that wasn't in the beginning games. But, it was too easy to last long. I say the next Pokemon games should have a difficulty setting? It could go something like Youngster/Ace Trainer/Elite Four Champion Or something like that. |
I would enjoy that difficulty thing.
However, I did enjoy zipping through the game. It was quite fun if you ask me. |
I agree actually.
I finished the whole thing in about sixty hours. The Rockets needed to be more involved. But I'm going to trade my pokes to Platinum and start over, maybe it'll be better this time around. Quote:
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Also, Kanto was, in my opinion, uninspired. I wanted the entire Kanto, Safari Zone and all. I'd love to see a game where Team Rocket, Aqua, Magma, and Galactic start fighting amongst each other, and you (being the hero) have to kick all their asses. Now that would be interesting. Yeah, I'm hoping Black and White will spice things up for me, cause the whole 'Stop the evil team, collect badges' route is getting kind of old. Hopefully, they'll be adding some new evolutions to Pokemon that need them (Lapras, Tauros, Farfetch'd). Hell, Nintendo should come down to PokeCommunity and sample the talent here! I think Nintendo would gladly hire some of the people here to do sprite and/or story work. |
Have you forgotten that HGSS is just a remake? Everyone's forgetting what a remake really means.
[jq]A remake is a piece of media based primarily on an earlier work of the same medium.[/jq] Changing the length of the adventure in HGSS will really disappoint the fans of G/S/C. Since it is based on G/S/C changing the length of its adventure will be, well, stupid. And including all the regions? WTF??? If they did that, it won't be much of a remake anymore. FYI, HGSS is a lengthy adventure for me. If you did something like doing a remake with all regions, then it won't be called a remake. It'll be more of a variation. All of the posters here want a variation because they want to add more. [jq]In game design, variation is the process whereby the community of players, rather than any officiating authority, adapts the rules for informal play. If a variant becomes popular, it will often be published in a rules document like Hoyle's Rules of Games. It may supplant the original game. For example, Hearts is usually played with a variation whereby the Jack of Diamonds carries a -10 (desired, since points are penalty) point value, in a variant known as "Omnibus hearts".[/jq] So, in conclusion what I want in HGSS is more of a challenge. Higher Pokemon levels and harder trainers. |
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