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Chimchar 9 April 10th, 2010 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeta Dimentio (Post 5701528)
I was only disappointed with Team Rocket's amount of time. I was kind of hoping they'd be expanded upon in Kanto, but no. Other then that, it's a pretty good length. I still haven't beaten Red after... 62:05. Yeah, that's a good length.

I agree with the team rocket part. I wish they would have done something more fun about team rocket, like trying to destroy the regions. xD Also, I wish they were harder to battle, and have new pokemon. ;)

lusterclaw April 10th, 2010 5:17 PM

all the other games are short but i was expecting a long game in hg/ss

Chimchar 9 April 11th, 2010 8:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lusterclaw (Post 5704405)
all the other games are short but i was expecting a long game in hg/ss

Yeah, same. I just wished that they'd make a more exciting adventure. :)

ZakZ April 11th, 2010 8:48 AM

I thought the Johto gyms were fast and easy but in kanto It has really slowed me down

TrilbyMenetti April 12th, 2010 4:20 AM

I'm still trying to train up for the Elite Four, so this game is currently satisfying me well in terms of length. Then again, I had no problem with the length in Gold either.

vobgro April 12th, 2010 5:34 AM

Opinion
 
Kanto isn't all that great in my opinion :-(

Chimchar 9 April 13th, 2010 8:29 AM

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Originally Posted by vobgro (Post 5709322)
Kanto isn't all that great in my opinion :-(

Same with me. I think it needs to be harder, also needs more events.

Knitewulf April 13th, 2010 11:39 AM

Having all regions on 1 game card wouldn't be possible(I think). It would also be a stupid move on Nintendo's part... Its not going to happen so stop making threads mentioning that. As for the adventure length not at all. Its a pretty long game (70+ hours leisurely?) and compared to games of today(10-15 hours) thats a long time... Also the things you can do when the game is over are virtually limitless.

ayevdayev April 13th, 2010 11:42 AM

i beat the game in like 36 hours (They should have added Hoenn and Sinnoh)

brownsugerandcinnamonpoptarts April 13th, 2010 6:48 PM

Kinda wished that Kanto started over
like gym leaders levels and stuff
that way you could start a new team with the Kanto starter you get from Oak
but besides that i think the game was fine

Aether April 13th, 2010 7:19 PM

I'm only about to first encounter the elite 4, and then I journey through a whole other region. I think the length is perfect, it feels longer than any other game just because of the 2 regions.

Chimchar 9 April 22nd, 2010 9:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Aether (Post 5714050)
I'm only about to first encounter the elite 4, and then I journey through a whole other region. I think the length is perfect, it feels longer than any other game just because of the 2 regions.

I do feel it's longer than the others. But it's just not long enough for me and some other pokemon fans. :\

Clefairies April 22nd, 2010 9:48 AM

30 hours in and have only just entered Victory Road. :3
Been taking the adventure around Johto nice and slow, been enjoying the training in familiar old areas and speaking to the characters.
I think the length (from what I hear) is fine. :3

ILoveDragonite April 22nd, 2010 9:54 AM

No the adventure length was fine, but i would have loved more stuff to do after you beat the game (Yeah there's red and legends but i mean a little after story...Maybe help one of the gym leaders do something.)

Hahlin April 22nd, 2010 10:16 AM

They need to make a game encompassing dozens of little side quests, a trainer maker option, a "make your own story" mode, a starting region selection, and a "earn the starter of your choice" mechanic into the game. Cram that into a DS game and you have a great seller for sure!

Pokemafia April 22nd, 2010 10:24 AM

Or become your own Gym Leader?

Arcelio April 22nd, 2010 12:51 PM

Well, technically, no. I'm never satisfied with anyone Pokemon game's length. They always seem a bit too short for my liking, even though I absolutely love the series. For example, my copy of Pokemon Pearl took only five days to defeat the entire Elite Four, and I'm talking five days from the launch date. I would hope that, in Pokemon Black and White, they go the extra mile and add two extra regions into the game (Kanto and Sinnoh, Kanto and Johto, Kanto and Hoenn, ect, ect). Imagine collecting twenty-four badges, and facing that area's Elite Four! Now that is a Pokemon game that would take a decent amount of time to beat.

Clefairies April 22nd, 2010 3:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcelio (Post 5741125)
Well, technically, no. I'm never satisfied with anyone Pokemon game's length. They always seem a bit too short for my liking, even though I absolutely love the series. For example, my copy of Pokemon Pearl took only five days to defeat the entire Elite Four, and I'm talking five days from the launch date. I would hope that, in Pokemon Black and White, they go the extra mile and add two extra regions into the game (Kanto and Sinnoh, Kanto and Johto, Kanto and Hoenn, ect, ect). Imagine collecting twenty-four badges, and facing that area's Elite Four! Now that is a Pokemon game that would take a decent amount of time to beat.

But surely then, people would complain it's very repetitive and Nintendo have not really added anything else into the game other than repeating the same process just in a different reigon and the option of different region'ed pokemon?

Seriously, whilst I feel some game mechanics of the entire series could be improved 70 hours game play in reality is long, not everyone is going to be able to sail through the same, Nintendo have to take into account the whole market - Hardcore Pokefan's will be able to cruise through the game in a matter of days (hence why they try to give a fair amount to do aftergame.) But they also need to factor that not everyone can play for endless hours but still want to complete the game in a reasonable timeframe (a year, a month etc)

It all comes down to the fact that, no matter what Nintendo do to the games, their will always be something to complain about :-P

(edit; Team Rocket really could have had more of a impact on Johto in the remake though! I whole heartedly agree there!)

Black/White seem to be adding some interesting factors to the game (so they say) so lets hope (just don't get to hopeful :P) that they will spice the game up!

ヴェントゥス April 22nd, 2010 3:48 PM

Nah, I don't wish for a longer Adventure, I like it the way it is. Plus, Playing it about 4 times in a row, Noooo, it's perfect as it is.

The Original Darkwiz787 April 22nd, 2010 4:50 PM

I would have liked some Hoehn (Which I can NEVER spell right T.T), but I think with 2 regions, Lugia/Ho-oh, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Latios/Latias, Kyogre/Groudon, Dialga/Palkia/Girantina, it's a pretty complete game.

M O M U S U April 22nd, 2010 5:47 PM

The adventure was WAY too short, especially since there are two regions!
I was hoping they would, I don't know, make it a little more challenging?
With all these newcomers to Pokemon nowadays, most of them kids, Game Freak has been making the games a whole lot easier. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum were just jokes, they were insanely easy.

In the end, it's not the content in the games. I mean, they added a Pokethlon, a Battle Frontier, and a completely reinvented Safari Zone. And a lot of legendaries, too. They added a lot of stuff that wasn't in the beginning games.

But, it was too easy to last long. I say the next Pokemon games should have a difficulty setting?
It could go something like Youngster/Ace Trainer/Elite Four Champion
Or something like that.

The Original Darkwiz787 April 22nd, 2010 5:51 PM

I would enjoy that difficulty thing.
However, I did enjoy zipping through the game. It was quite fun if you ask me.

Bloothump April 22nd, 2010 6:02 PM

I agree actually.
I finished the whole thing in about sixty hours.
The Rockets needed to be more involved.
But I'm going to trade my pokes to Platinum and start over,
maybe it'll be better this time around.

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Originally Posted by Hahlin (Post 5740703)
They need to make a game encompassing dozens of little side quests, a trainer maker option, a "make your own story" mode, a starting region selection, and a "earn the starter of your choice" mechanic into the game. Cram that into a DS game and you have a great seller for sure!

While sidequests sound amazing, I totally disagree on the customization ideas. Especially "make your own story", how would that even work? It would just confuse younger players, and I don't honestly see why nintendo would do something so unorthodox.

Arcelio April 22nd, 2010 6:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Clefairies (Post 5741496)
But surely then, people would complain it's very repetitive and Nintendo have not really added anything else into the game other than repeating the same process just in a different reigon and the option of different region'ed pokemon?

Seriously, whilst I feel some game mechanics of the entire series could be improved 70 hours game play in reality is long, not everyone is going to be able to sail through the same, Nintendo have to take into account the whole market - Hardcore Pokefan's will be able to cruise through the game in a matter of days (hence why they try to give a fair amount to do aftergame.) But they also need to factor that not everyone can play for endless hours but still want to complete the game in a reasonable timeframe (a year, a month etc)

It all comes down to the fact that, no matter what Nintendo do to the games, their will always be something to complain about :-P

(edit; Team Rocket really could have had more of a impact on Johto in the remake though! I whole heartedly agree there!)

Black/White seem to be adding some interesting factors to the game (so they say) so lets hope (just don't get to hopeful :P) that they will spice the game up!

True. I'd like two different versions of Pokemon, in that case. One for the 'casual' gamers (the ones that play it on the bus or train, not really following the online updates), and one for the hardcore gamers (the ones that drink coffee at 3:00 AM in the morning, just to get their Eevee to evolve into the right evolution).

Also, Kanto was, in my opinion, uninspired. I wanted the entire Kanto, Safari Zone and all.

I'd love to see a game where Team Rocket, Aqua, Magma, and Galactic start fighting amongst each other, and you (being the hero) have to kick all their asses. Now that would be interesting.

Yeah, I'm hoping Black and White will spice things up for me, cause the whole 'Stop the evil team, collect badges' route is getting kind of old. Hopefully, they'll be adding some new evolutions to Pokemon that need them (Lapras, Tauros, Farfetch'd). Hell, Nintendo should come down to PokeCommunity and sample the talent here! I think Nintendo would gladly hire some of the people here to do sprite and/or story work.

Zeffy April 22nd, 2010 7:03 PM

Have you forgotten that HGSS is just a remake? Everyone's forgetting what a remake really means.

[jq]A remake is a piece of media based primarily on an earlier work of the same medium.[/jq]

Changing the length of the adventure in HGSS will really disappoint the fans of G/S/C. Since it is based on G/S/C changing the length of its adventure will be, well, stupid. And including all the regions? WTF??? If they did that, it won't be much of a remake anymore. FYI, HGSS is a lengthy adventure for me.

If you did something like doing a remake with all regions, then it won't be called a remake. It'll be more of a variation. All of the posters here want a variation because they want to add more.

[jq]In game design, variation is the process whereby the community of players, rather than any officiating authority, adapts the rules for informal play. If a variant becomes popular, it will often be published in a rules document like Hoyle's Rules of Games. It may supplant the original game. For example, Hearts is usually played with a variation whereby the Jack of Diamonds carries a -10 (desired, since points are penalty) point value, in a variant known as "Omnibus hearts".[/jq]


So, in conclusion what I want in HGSS is more of a challenge. Higher Pokemon levels and harder trainers.


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