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ATL Jones Bro3 April 16th, 2010 2:20 PM

Why Do Most People Hate Ash?
 
First off, please don't come in saying, "LAWL hax0r weres da action replay for that hacked pikachu" because its not funny.

Why is this. Hes takes many unevolved pokemon and makes it to all of the regions leagues, defeats many powerful trainers, and he and his pokemon have a great bond.

The arguement, "LAWL electric cant hit ground types or K0 rocks LAWL" may be false because obviously the shows physics are differnt from the games. I know theres some sort of level system in the show and i know many people say this, "LAWL if pikachu say my salamence it would get owned LAWL" which may not be the case. Pikachu may outlevel salamence heavly, maybe not.

I will say Ash acts rather stupid at times, but he seems to prevail in many difficult battles. Mainly because he uses whats on the battlefield to his advantage and has unique tactics to help him win.

Now on to how he treats his pokemon. I'll start with evolution. For one I don't think Ash would mind evolving his pokemon but they themselves sometimes don't want to evolve. He has enough respect to not make them evolve and to let them think for themselves. Giving away pokemon, this is one thing many people say, "LAWL why does he give away some awesome pokemanz keep them LAWL". Well think of this like a real life senario, if you had a bond with some like lets say, a child or some kind of pet, you would want whats best for them, no? Example, some teenage parents know they cant care for their child, as much as they would like to, so they give the child to a family that can care for the child better. You can relate this to Ash giving away his pokemon because they are more happy were they are, and Ash only wants the best for them.

Now I will admit, Ash isn't the best trainer there is, but maybe its how he cares for the pokemon which makes them care back and not want to disappoint him?

Well thats all. That probally sounded extremly nerdy but its whatever.

nidorina April 16th, 2010 2:39 PM

I agree with you. I don't get why so many people don't like him.
I, for one, love him. <3 I think people just don't like him cuz they're sick of him or something, or think he's annoying.

Hahlin April 16th, 2010 3:12 PM

To me, Ask always seems to be uber. Pikachu comes into the fight, Pikachu fights, just about EVERY time Pikachu wins. The usual plot to the episode kinda rolls into the old Power Ranger scheme. Ok day, problem, Rangers come in, get but kicked, come back later, kick butt, etc. Ash just seems, eh, predictable. Everything he raises wins, there's no suspense to it. It's just guessing how he's knocking knock out THIS opponent or THAT leader.

For example, remember when Ash's SNORLAX fought Maylene's HARIYAMA and WON? (I believe it was Maylene, correct me on the person but I remember Snorlax fighting a Hariyama and a Medicham and winning.) Doesnt that seem a little, eh, off? Even in the slightest?

Vyro April 16th, 2010 3:12 PM

He was fine in season 1. It was when they changed VA's that I started to hate his guts.

Also, Pikachu just plain sucks.

Izanagi April 16th, 2010 3:17 PM

I actually like Ash's current voice actor. I like to look at it as a form of character development. I don't dislike Ash, but more so how the show portrays him. I don't like he and everyone else is such a goody two-shoes. No one realistically acts that way. In the Original Series, Ash actually acted his age. He was shown to be racist, ignorant, intollerant, impatient, and all those traits we can relate to. But then around the Advanced Series, he and everyone else started acting like they were on Dora or somethin, like the writers were trying to make them saints so they could be good role models. I know people mature, but (I like to think Ash is 15-16 about now) but he should still be a prick of some sort.

PuNkSter April 16th, 2010 3:27 PM

Ash had a different outlook for his pokemon and fighting in battles. which sometimes is quite interesting. yes he did not evolve some of his pokemon(which i think he should of). he relied more of a "friendship bond" with all of his pokemon thus all of his pokemon gaining his trust. when it came to battles, he like you said used different tactics and held the odds when it was not on his side at the start of battle to his side when he used his brain. overall as a person, i don`t like ash, but as a trainer i somewhat admire his play of style.

MastaMind April 16th, 2010 3:37 PM

People like to hate... just about anything. I dont see what to hate about ash, he's a fictional character in a cartoon that kids like.

randomspot555 April 16th, 2010 5:53 PM

Three reasons:

The Internet is not necessarily an indicator of what the real world thinks.

Pokemon fans are especially whiny about everything.

PokeCommunity's anime section is pretty much a place to whine about how much the anime sucks/sinnoh sucks/ruined forever after the user hit puberty/etc..., rather than to discuss it.

Åzurε April 16th, 2010 6:15 PM

LAWL hax0r weres da action replay for that hacked pikachu lolololololol

...but seriously. For a cartoon, anyway.

Ash is not particularly special as far as anime heroes go. They wouldn't be the hero if they couldn't get anywhere, at least not for this kind of show. So naturally, he has to win or only lose to certain people, for the sake of moving on. Heck, I don't even watch anything other than the movies anymore. From what little I do see it's pretty much the same like that. No reason to Complain About Shows You Don't Watch, so if you've moved on why continue to tell those who stick around what's wrong with it? Also, I agree with randomspot555's sentiments 100%.

And yeah, the first post was a bit nerdy. Not as bad as Leave Britney Alone Guy, but it definitely had a similar vibe. =l

Manganum April 16th, 2010 7:14 PM

Quote from IGN Boards.
It's a good laugh.

Quote:

IT'S BEEN TWELVE YEARS. IF YOU HAD ANY CHANCE IN HELL OF BECOMING A POKEMON MASTER THEY ARE OVER.

Ash consistently gives away his best Pokemon, seemingly ignores the Elite 4, doesn't evolve his Pokemon evar (Or else he then will instantly give them away), and he can't even fill up a single area pokedex in twelve years of roaming the world.

He's in his 20s now and still sounds like he's a twelve year old. Sometimes you just need to give up on your dreams and move on to an office job son...

Draggie April 16th, 2010 7:25 PM

I can't stand him and his bloody overpowered yellow rat, they are just made out to be 'THE BEST',he's mostly just an annoying kid who's stuck in Neverland with his little rat. Stupid stuffs ;-;
*Runs off to Sinnoh and tells Ash to grow up <.<;*

PearlShipper4Life April 16th, 2010 7:32 PM

I think Ash is awesome.
He's my favorite character in fact.
From what I saw, half of the fandom loves him, the other half dislikes him.
Its the same thing with every character on the show.
Some people love Misty, some hate her. Dawn, same thing, May, same thing.
Characters will have haters out there and fans too. Ask for the age, he hasn't aged at all. In an interview with a producer in Japan who works on the show, he said Ash is 10 and always has been 10 and won't ever age. So he's still 10 folks, thefore his personality won't change into a 20 year old suddenly however he can mature as he travels around the world.

tomylee1 April 16th, 2010 9:04 PM

i think its character or role is not good.

Poke-dude April 17th, 2010 6:42 AM

Poeple hate ash because every one will have someone who hates them and some one who likes them. In the show ash has people who hate him...like jessie, james and meowth.
In my opinion Ash would have to be my favorite protagonist. He shows good values like doing whats right and stuff like that...
Oh and Pikachu kicks ass because I passed all of the Johto league with a pikachu :)

JohtoNewsService April 17th, 2010 6:49 AM

I dont like him :)
and i think every new season should start with other main character :P
It would be more interesting.

Izanagi April 17th, 2010 6:53 AM

Why would you put a smilie next to "I don't like him"? :/

Why don't you?

CyanideEspeon April 18th, 2010 4:39 PM

I don't hate or dislike Ash, I only find him somewhat annoying at times. Mostly in AG and DP, though.

loliwin April 18th, 2010 4:45 PM

I just dont like Ash for how damn lucky he is. He was about to get pwnd by Team Rocket until one of his Pokemanz evolves and blow them away. :( And also when his Pokemon get bashed by a Gym Leader, his Pikachu comes out and starts killing their pokemon. :(

But Brock is awesomeness. :D

Ho-Oh April 21st, 2010 6:01 AM

I hate Ash because he comes from smoking and smoking is bad.

Artic.uno April 21st, 2010 6:21 AM

I honestly don't like Ash because of his personality. Not because it's annoying, because it's so... typical. I've seen many heroes with a similar personality :/

And I don't like his voice. But that doesn't really count towards my dislike for him.

Guy April 21st, 2010 9:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poke-dude (Post 5724482)
Poeple hate ash because every one will have someone who hates them and some one who likes them. In the show ash has people who hate him...like jessie, james and meowth.

Technically, Team Rocket only dislikes Ash because he's always blasting them off and they never seem to stop failing at capturing his Pikachu with their thought up schemes. However, when it does come to certain episodes, Team Rocket has shown to be helpful to Ash and his friends - even his Pokémon.

However, you're right when it comes to an anime, more specifically a character, there will always be those who hate on him and those who adore him. It's basically what makes the world go round. For myself though, Ash was my favorite character throughout the show until May showed up (She just stole my heart, let's leave it at that). I still like Ash in the show though, basically because of his personality and his train of thought. He takes things to another level with strategy and disadvantages. Especially with the DP arc I have seen Ash grow more in skill. Taking new techniques to battle (for instance, his challenge against Fantina) and much more. In this season though, he especially stood out more because of his rivalry with Paul, which is what I think gave the anime a little spark this time around.

In short though, I have no problem with Ashy Boy. Yeah, he's sometimes naive and he sometimes just acts annoying, but that's just him. Every character needs some kind of personality, and that's just his.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohtoNewsService (Post 5724499)
and i think every new season should start with other main character :P
It would be more interesting.

Yeah, because changing to new characters every new season really gives an anime a boost in ratings.

/looks at Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh. :\

lewisr88 April 21st, 2010 10:48 AM

I've personally never had a problem with Ash, he's actually remained one of my favourite characters throughout the anime. Granted he can be a bit stupid, naive, etc, but ever character has to have some kind of down side to their personality to give them life don't they? Well there are always going to be haters but that's their choice and it's up to them I guess. I for one will be kinda sad if Ash leaves the series as a regular.

Fithboy April 21st, 2010 10:54 AM

He annoys me a lot by using Pikachu as his best Pokemon and stuff. But the last two or three GB episodes have been really good

Uecil April 21st, 2010 10:54 AM

I absolutely adore Ash! he's like one of the best characters in Pokemon along with Brock, I'm not sure why most people hate Ash for a start I do admit he can be a little bit annoying and a bit silly but his funniness and will to gain what he wants to achieve kind of makes up for it but if people choose to hate or dislike Ash it's their opinion and choices.

Uruk April 21st, 2010 12:56 PM

ash is super-annoying and everyone knows that :D he's also still looking like a 10-years old after x years of his yourney :P


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