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I'm getting offtopic, but whatevs. |
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@that other guy wee or somethin' I treat everyone will kindness and respect, but I will not turn a blind eye to someone sinning right in front of me. How do you treat... lets say a prostitute? |
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I'm getting the feeling that you are closeted That's some pretty kinky stuff :3 |
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I don't insult them I inform them what they are doing is wrong and I would like to invite you to church, because Jesus loves you. How can you say you know more about the bible then me, when I have read the whole bible, and your not even a christian. You just hear something that you think is logical/witty and you copy it for your own arguments :D |
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Whatever, it's not like there is any point in talking to you about this. You clearly aren't going to change your thoughts when the only reason you have to hate is "my religion doesn't like it." |
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One, that's not respect, or kindness. Two, being gay and being a prostitute are completely different things. Like I said, you don't just choose to be gay. My guess, based off how my friend realized he was bisexual, is that you just start feeling it and you can't change it. And it's not a sin if you can't help it. Comparing a prostitute and a gay person is completely irrelevant because most gay people don't go out and have sex with random guys. To answer your question though, so you don't say "you didn't answer the question"... I'd treat a prostitute with pity and suspicion but I certainly wouldn't treat him/her like you treated people on the Day of Silence. |
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You chose to be gay if you can't over come your sinful urges that's your problem, and you should go ask God for forgiveness. @luck I don't hate them xD I don't go around beating them up. |
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You're straight, but now you're an utter sinner because you just can't like guys, no matter how hard you try, and now the Forumpost says you're gonna go to hell because of it. ---- Take that into perspective, NarutoActor. In a reversed, reversed world(our real world), that's how every gay person feels. They can't help it. You can't help being straight. They can't help being gay or bisexual or whatever. Oh, but Quote:
Sad. If religion teaches people not to question things and not to actually think... then to hell with it. |
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Also In that world I would try to please my God, and find favor in him. Even if that means putting things aside that I like. or love. That my friend is true Christainity. ( but I am not sure if you see me as your friend. haha oh well, lets me friends <3 :D) |
I'll be your friend, sure, as long as you don't go out hurting homosexual people's feelings anymore, which, deny or not, you do. I don't see you stopping either, but I don't know.
If you don't have a problem with me being a Muslim(but you do too...) then I won't mind being your friend. But don't expect me to fall for any propaganda to turn me from my ways of "darkness" as you obviously see it. Now, to talk about your reply, I have some statements to make. No matter what God says, people are entitled to choose their own way of life. As long as people still pledge themselves to whatever religion they lead, and they lead a good life, trying to do some good in the world, there's no gay or straight reason that they should be punished or sin-filled. There just isn't. It's this line you have to make between yourself and God. You either go all the way or not at all, but most people can usually find the middle ground between freedom and religion. To pledge faith to God isn't to live a life of solitude, closeted feelings, and secrecy. To pledge faith to God is to live your life and prove to God that you can honestly say you led a great life and tried to do something good. Whether the person you're in love with has a dick or not doesn't doesn't matter. Being gay isn't the sin. Living for God and not yourself is. Sure, if you have a religion, then you must love whatever entity that guides you, in this case, God. You definitely should live for God. But God does not say it a sin if you can't change who you are. It's how you live your life in actions. Do you bully and mock a person(example, your original post on this thread about the DoS), or do you accept and respect him/her? I don't think I need to say which way God wants you to live your life. But I will anyway because I don't know if you can pick the right answer. It's freedom and respect. |
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Let's end it. Some people are gay, straight, or even bi (like me). Why don't you send me a hate message telling me how I'm "sinning," even if I haven't even had sex yet. :) I think this should just be about whether or not you participated in it, and not some long, complicated argument. |
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And that part of we are suppose to be straight is a load of ********. Every animal species (yes, humans are animals) on the Planet Earth has some homosexuals in it from primates to gut worms. Our closely related species is known as the bonobos. The bonobo species is completely bisexual. They use hetro/homosexual sex to dissolve conflict and make sure peace is remained. This is, what I call, a utopia, a society with no conflict and no discrimination. This is an ideal world. NarutoActor, I don't hate you for not believing what I do. I gave up on stuff like that when I gave up religion. I actually hope we can be friends. I am merely stating my side of the argument, and I am hoping that you will take it in to consideration. ~Team Rocket's Raichu |
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There is no middle grounds, there is light or darkness. You chose. You either follow God and his entirety or don't follow him at all. God gives you free will. Back to your world, God wouldn't force me to be gay, he lets me chose. Okay but you say where born gay. So as long as I don't act on those gay feelings I am not sinning. You should ask god to change you because when you ask Jesus into your life your are reborned. ( so now your are born straight, make sense?) |
Well, this discussion has gone downhill since someone decided to bring religion into it. It seems like religious people would rather live in their own perfect world then deal with an ever-changing world and condemn people for being gay.
Back to topic, I didn't realize this was going on. I remember some person on the news mentioning it, but I thought it was for support of women who suffered from domestic violence who were afraid to speak out. |
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I don't need a Church. I have a Mosque, the "church" for my religion. :) And I believe there are middle grounds, otherwise my friend wouldn't be bisexual. It means he likes men and women. And if following God means I can't be in the middle grounds, then I don't. But in my religion, we at least have that freedom, and we don't get labeled as sinners for feeling a bit different than everybody else. If anything is done with good intention, God sees it. And Mario, sorry, yeah it really has spun into a controversial religious debate about homosexuality. I'm done with this thread now, and this argument. NarutoActor, send me a VM if you want to keep up this discussion. I think it's pointless though, since your opinion is basically to call people who can't control their feelings sinners. But I just realized I never actually said I participated. I did participate in the Day of Silence, and I did my best to stay 100% silent to support my friend and all the people around the world who need to be heard, through the silence. Not speaking raises awareness when people ask why you're not talking. It's just as effective if not more than shouting it to the world. |
I support the effort in its entirety, no matter how naive it seems. Though I didn't partake in the effort myself.
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It seems like that PC is split on whether the Day of Silence is good or bad.
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I look at it this way: You are who you are and if some people don't want to accept you, forget them. At least you're following your own path instead of following what it written in some book 2000 years ago and not being flexible about it.
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The constitution is 200 years old. Should be scrap that? ever herd the saying "if it works, then why try changing it?"
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Please don't bring politics into this.
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It's a good cause, but a stupid method. A silent protest?
EDIT: And yeah, why are politics being dragged into this? |
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That's how I see it, at least. |
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