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NarutoActor April 20th, 2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Stairmaster (Post 5733677)
It's ironic that you stated that they have the right to remain silent (I completely agree) but that you infringed upon that right in your aggressive attempt to get them to talk.

I've studied psychiatric behavior and sociology (etc) informally and obviously what you were doing was not "testing to see how devoted they were" but using an easy outlet to overpower someone verbally. Of course, they were sick of your harassment and responded, but not any less devoted to their cause.

I have the right to talk, and they have the right to stay silent. You could say I was talking to myself(since they weren't replying, of course that would be slip of the hand)

I wasn't yelling at them, my voice was completely monotone. So how was I overpowering them verbally?

and I do not find what I said ironic. I belive if you are a american cittizin you have cretin rights weather you be right, or wrong.

Stairmaster April 20th, 2010 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5734026)
It would be hard to argue that someone other than a police officer or prosecutor in a criminal case violated someone's right to remain silent. The rights to remain silent is to shield people from the government, not other citizens.

Oh, I definitely agree with you, I was just questioning Naruto's reference of freedom of speech.
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Originally Posted by NarutoActor (Post 5735391)
I have the right to talk, and they have the right to stay silent. You could say I was talking to myself(since they weren't replying, of course that would be slip of the hand)

I wasn't yelling at them, my voice was completely monotone. So how was I overpowering them verbally?

and I do not find what I said ironic. I belive if you are a american cittizin you have cretin rights weather you be right, or wrong.

Was your conversation directed at them? It doesn't matter whether they responded or not. I don't know the situation but it sounds like you were definitely talking to them, and not yourself.

They weren't talking, you were. That would be overpowering.

I do agree with your final point, but I do not see how you can explain your actions with that standpoint.

NarutoActor April 20th, 2010 1:29 PM

It doesn't madder if it was directed at them. With anything that happens with a slip of the writs you can make your self seem innocent. :D Take a law class you will see how wording madders so much in court.

They chose to be silent so there was no need to overpower. xD
(do you want me to speak sign languages?)

It explains why I posted saying they are allowed to speak, or not.

I HEART MEGA HITT April 20th, 2010 8:31 PM

I didn't even know when it was. >_< It's usually something they have you do in school, for those that support it. But I never did it because I didn't care that much about it at the time. I don't really care because love has no boundaries. D:

Guillermo April 21st, 2010 3:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Team Rocket's Raichu (Post 5728443)
Well being silent would make people ask why you are being silent. Then you show the piece of paper, and they read it. Sometimes being silent is just an effective if not more effective way than shouting through a megaphone.

No, that's stupid. This is a topic that needs arguing every single day. Getting someone to read a piece of paper stating that you're being silent for 24 hours because you don't want other people making fun of gays or whatever isn't going to solve anything. Besides half the people in the world right now can't even read, with how stupid we're all becoming with every passing generation. It's much more powerful to voice your opinion and lay it hard than to sit there twiddling your goddamn thumbs hoping someone asks why you're being silent. Which is the better option?

FreakyLocz14 April 21st, 2010 3:27 PM

Why whenever there's an LGBT theme thread made, it turns into a troll/flame war?

Team Rocket's Raichu April 21st, 2010 4:22 PM

^ Because people can't learn to accept everyone.

Guillermo April 21st, 2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5738961)
Why whenever there's an LGBT theme thread made, it turns into a troll/flame war?

Happens with racism and abortion too, pal. Heated debates don't belong on a Pokemon forum.
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Originally Posted by Team Rocket's Raichu (Post 5739135)
^ Because people can't learn to accept everyone.

If this is directed at me, I'm laughing.

Feign April 21st, 2010 11:57 PM

Wait wait wait... wait just one second... People are totally misinterpreting the reasoning and purpose for being silent on this day... It's not about voicing one's opinion at all (people can do that any other day of the year, and we already know it is effective compared to being silent). The purpose of this, is to show or emulate the ignorance some people place towards the LGBT community. That being persecuted disallows them from having a voice in the matter...

Idk... I thought that would have been obvious to everyone...

Guillermo April 22nd, 2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Feign (Post 5739921)
Wait wait wait... wait just one second... People are totally misinterpreting the reasoning and purpose for being silent on this day... It's not about voicing one's opinion at all (people can do that any other day of the year, and we already know it is effective compared to being silent). The purpose of this, is to show or emulate the ignorance some people place towards the LGBT community. That being persecuted disallows them from having a voice in the matter...

Idk... I thought that would have been obvious to everyone...

Yeah, I get that. My question is what is being silent going to do?

Feign April 22nd, 2010 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Guillermo (Post 5739934)
Yeah, I get that. My question is what is being silent going to do?

*slaps forehead*

The purpose of this, is to show or emulate the ignorance some people place towards the LGBT community. That being persecuted disallows them from having a voice in the matter...

It's a silent protest, not a movement to change things politically... voice is needed for that.

インフェルノの津波 April 22nd, 2010 2:06 AM

What is this thread about again? Lost track awhile ago. Is there an argument going on?

EDIT: SILENT PROTEST? Why don't they just stop talking to those who oppose homosexuals and others in general?

PokemonLeagueChamp April 22nd, 2010 2:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Team Rocket's Raichu (Post 5739135)
^ Because people can't learn to accept everyone.

No....not everyone is EVER going to accept everybody else and that is just human nature...unchangable by the likes of you or me.

Guillermo April 22nd, 2010 3:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Feign (Post 5739936)
*slaps forehead*

The purpose of this, is to show or emulate the ignorance some people place towards the LGBT community. That being persecuted disallows them from having a voice in the matter...

It's a silent protest, not a movement to change things politically... voice is needed for that.

Yeah, so tell me why we have a day of silence for the gays, transexuals, etc? They're no different to anyone else, really. They just like the same gender as themselves. I think it's bad we have a day of silence for them because hell, you're like pushing them from the rest of the population and giving them a 'special day' where everyone is silent for them. Just treat them equally and everything will be fine.

Again, I love gays. This is not by any means a gay bashing post.

Feign April 22nd, 2010 8:00 AM

While it is nice to know you have accepted LGBTs and such, there are still those who persecute them, even countries with less rights (of course), thus, this is like a demonstration of essentially what it feels like to be voiceless. It's like the same reason why it is hard for them to come out. Saying "Well then just come out, you shouldn't have to fear it." is not enough.


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