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Angel Beats!
Since there are other thread of the new season, why not throw this one in.
Angel Beats! is an anime written by Maeda Jun(Known for Key's Air and Clannad). The setting is an afterlife school, where (some) people go after they die in the living world. People in this world cannot die, but the pain that death causes still happens. In addition, people can be "erased" by the angel [named Tenshi for obvious reasons]. The series focuses around Otonashi, who has just awoken in this world with no memories of his living life. He is soon recruited into a group that actively opposes Tenshi and try to prevent themselves from being "erased." Anywho discuss. Also, TK is the best character ever |
3 eps are out and pretty much right off the bat it went to the top of my "I want the next ep!" list. And I'm currently watching 4 series that's airing right now (one of them being K-ON!! and I loved the first one).
AB is different, and funny, has some action, Yuri reminds me of Haruhi, and AB has some really good music to it. And as for characters... I like T.K. and I also like Hinata (well, I think all of them are good, but ATM they're at the top of my list). We'll see how the series goes. |
I haven't seen it yet but the plot sounds really similar to TWEWY.
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Will post my thoughts again for the +1.
I hope that the series will not continue to go with the "character of the week" model of storytelling that it seems to be using now. I can't get attached with characters in just a span of 10 minutes. Take Iwasawa: she was a character with plenty of potential, but she was wasted and went away in just a single episode. And the gory slapstick in the beginning of the show really turned me off. Complaints aside, there are many aspects of Angel Beats! that please me. Most obviously is the music. The OST sounds neat, and both the OP and ED are both awesome (anyone else thinks that the ED animation would go really well with Baccano's ED music?). Hinata has some GAR potential and every line with T.K. is euphoric. Quote:
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I wasn't reeeeally a fan of it after the first episode, and the second episode was interesting but I was still on the fence. :> But I feel obliged to watch it for sure now that there's been death by Pi in it. Or close enough to it, anyway.
But I don't love it as much as I feel I should. Everyone I know who's watching it really, really likes it and for me, it's just sort of... another thing on my list to watch. I'll keep up with it this season, for sure, but it's not an anime I think about much longer after I see an episode. It's not high on the list but it is entertaining. |
So far the best things (imo) in this series are TK, the OP/ED, the TK, the insert songs, and Tenshi.
's far as I can tell, the main reason why it's getting so much hype is 'cause Maeda's writing the script for all the episodes. Well, the comedy's really solid, the concept is kinda interesting, and there's TK. Sure wish they'd polish up the animation though. (btw has anyone else noticed that yui looks an awful lot like yuri's sister in the ep02 flashback) Quote:
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At first I wasn't interested in the series until it got its own thread, so that's when I decided to check it out.
So far, I'm loving the series <3 I also love some of the references put into it (like the Laputa/Howl's Moving Castle ones in episode 3), and the characters are a riot. Anyone who dislikes TK can go crawl into a hole and die. Anyone who dislikes Iwasawa, Hinata, and Yui can go blow their brains out. The first episode, I have to admit, wasn't really too great, but after that it's a lot better. I feel sorry for the people who look at the first couple of minutes of the first episode (especially because you suddenly see Yuri with a gun and all) and say "Ew, this is lame. Not gonna continue watching this series." The pasts of the characters are also really sad, Yuri's especially. And then the disappearance of Iwasawa... D: /am I the only one who doesn't like Tenshi as much? //that may change, who knows? |
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For those who haven't seen it yet, here's a character popularity poll for Angel Beats! The only important numbers are Tenshi in orange and T.K. in purple. They take up...almost all of the votes. Crazy Baby. |
It's been on my 'Plan to watch' list for a bit, but a few series' are ahead of it, so if I watch it, it won't be for a while D:
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wait, what? what other characters? |
I feel sorry for all the other characters D:
Freakin' Crazy. /because I don't think they'd like me using the actual word |
Crow Song (along with Alchemy and My Song) are at #3 on the daily Oricon rankings right now, awesomeness right there
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I hate to seem like I'm trollin', but...
Angel Beats, honestly, is probably the most flagrant poster child of what is wrong with the anime industry right now. I really don't think they could be pandering anime fans anymore than they already are. School time fun, girl bands, knee socks, Haruhi-archtype, school clubs (named SSS, for God's sake! SOS, SSS?!), convoluted plot that amounts to nothing... it's shows like this that make the anime industry go in circles as it does. All Maeda Jun has done is made a Frankenstein plot piecemealing every anime stereotype and plot device of the last ten years and dressed it up with pretty art; add a breakout character like TK and you get an instant fanbase. It does not deserve the support it receives. It is as derivative and shallow as they come. Quote:
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For the latest episode: RC said that Angel Beats will be dropping the emotional bomb at the end of the series, I kinda doubt it since the previous episodes was like, "What the hell?!" but now... ... Tenshi.. |
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I sometimes wonder if anime fans even stop to realize how convoluted the shows they love really are. It helps to read "simpler" stuff like Greek plays and whatnot. Angel Beats is so needlessly over-the-top... just what does the whole afterlife / angel / god angle do for the story? Where is the meaning? It's like Final Fantasy XIII; a bunch of words with no meaning. Just story for the sake of it. =/ Quote:
But I guess you're right, you have a right to your opinion. I don't disrespect anyone for liking Angel Beats. I'm just tired and should probably take a nap, I dunno. Quote:
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Anyways, I don't get why people hated this anime when we're barely up to 5 episodes. People hated Umineko when the anime ended, although the seeds started planting early in the season, so yeah. I think you were just being judgmental. Frankly, I can't say this is one of the best animes in the Spring season (I think B-gata H-kei is more entertaining) but definitely not the worst. |
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My point wasn't to push that Angel Beats! is an absolute unique story, but rather that it isn't to the same degree generic as the other shows. As for its own appeals, the characters were entertaining and their backstories are at the very least well thought out and not shallow. Quote:
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if I may--
http://i42.*.com/9icti0.gif cough cough Well, to be honest, T3h Kaiser has a point regarding the alarming lack of originality in animestuffs nowadays (as seen in several shounen jump titles, romance comedy light novels, etc). But in their defense, there really isn't much space for innovation. Simply put, most of the cool ideas have been thought of already. To quote Yamakan: "What we percieve as originality is simply very deft plagiarism." no, it's not an excuse for being lazy with your character designs and storylines, but what can one do? Either invent something never-before-thought-of/bizarre and risk alienating one's audience (e.g. FLCL, which was both loved and hated by those who've watched it) , or sacrifice originality, recycling old concepts and things for something more approachable, and get slammed by critics all over the place. anyways, digi-kun won't be really happy with this thread turning into a debate about the current state of the anime industry or whatever (and I'm kinda-sorta beating a dead horse here) so, http://i42.*.com/2mzy3iq.jpg DISCUSS |
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I think because television is constantly airing, the same ideas will be reused over and over. This is a problem for people who do nothing but watch anime. The same is true for the video game industry and people who do nothing but play video games. And for people who think books are immune to this problem, they need only look to the romance section of your local bookstore... just reading books is a problem too. Storytelling would be much improved if more people of each respective medium would read more books, watch more TV, play more video games, etc. Cross-contaminate. As it is, however... Quote:
Consider the amount of people who do nothing but watch anime. This is the only source of storytelling these people have. It is a very bad thing that contributes to a much larger problem. Quote:
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I personally think if you get so wrapped up in what an anime took from this or that then I don't see any fun in watching an anime. Yea, there's lots of Haruhi in it, and I wish they didn't use so much Haruhi just so people would quit using it as a base for Angel Beats. And if you're looking and wanting something totally different then good luck, chances are when you find an anime like that you're not going to like it. Anyway. I watched episode 5 last night, as far as I know it's the only episode I've watched twice in a row back to back (as in like 5 minutes apart). Spoiler:
Angel Beats is slowly working it's way up my fav anime list. I can't make a final judgment until the series is over (just like how I can't rate it until it's over), but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up on my top 5 list. So far it's at the top of my list for this season (and I've got one or two other big names on my list too). Quote:
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I'm just at the point with anime that it doesn't have to be particularly original for me to watch it these days. Sure, plot ideas and characters repeat themselves, but what can you do? Something original can only happen once, and if we were to only get completely unique anime every season, we'd probably end up with only two series tops. That said, I don't mind harem and comedy series reusing character types and such since I'm watching for lulz, not the plot. When it comes to more serious series, and stuff like mecha, I tend to take originality into more serious consideration.
That said, Angel Beats! has some unique concepts, which is good enough for me. If they don't ultimately make much sense, I don't really care. For me to enjoy an anime, it doesn't have to make completely sense. If you're too over-analytical about fictional plots, you'll always find a flaw in EVERYTHING. Anime is made for entertainment purposes, so as long as it's actually entertaining, plot holes and such can be excused. Anyways, I'm unfortunately behind this week since I went away last night, but I hope to watch it (and Durarara!! - gdi I want to watch that more) tomorrow and then I can actually comment. Though I can say: YUI IS THE AWESOMEST |
Speaking of DRRR!, I saw a totally awesome parody of its ED on nicovideo. Unfortunately for non-nicousers, the video isn't on Youtube yet. (I think?)
But since I'm such a nice guy, I uploaded the actual video file for you. (instead of uploading it to youtube haha) |
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It seems to me that there are "anime people" who would rather watch shallow anime because it's anime, rather than experience good storytelling in, say... a book. Or a game. Or an American show. That's not to say that all anime people exclusively watch anime, but I just get the feeling that alot of anime is watched for the sake of watching anime. Do you really think that many people would watch Lucky Star if it were just another show on American television? >_> Quote:
The Dragon Quest series ranks among my favorite video games of all time, because each game deals with a simple theme. Unlike Final Fantasy, they don't do thousands of damage per hit and fly to the moon and enter alternate dimensions. Unlike Final Fantasy, each installment doesn't try and outdo the last. I would personally like it if more anime followed the Dragon Quest method. Instead of talking about angels and the afterlife and secret societies and synchronized dance routines and mecha and whatever... maybe they should just try and have meaning. Quote:
But consider how many decades television has been passed off as just entertainment. Why can't it be great art? Why can't we get some meaning out of it? People have passed off television as "just entertainment" and now we have reality television and shounen anime. Bleh, I'm probably not making any friends, I should quit while I'm... ahead? Yeah, carry on friends, Angel Beat to your <3's content. |
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