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I think they will remake R/S but, they won't remake FRLG what would be the point remaking a remake, and what would they call it Blazing Fire Red and Fresh Leaf Green. But I hope it's not a dumb name like Dry Ruby and Wet Sapphire. Also Nintendo don't say anything about anything till they're almost finished.
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I think that after the release of Black & White it may be likely you'll see a Ruby/Sapphire remake inbetween a possible generation 6. The sales for the Pokemon games are healthy so... it looks good from that angle.
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It's incredibly likely...it's an almost certain, unconfirmed event.
I hope they don't add too much of Emerald plotline....although the Battle Frontier should remain, Battle Tents shouldn't....and we shouldn't have a lv.70+ legend pre-E4, or two evil teams... |
after they remake r/s/e as they definitly will, they should make d/p/pl remakes for the 3ds. but heres the catch. you can save your data of old d/p/pl on a sd card and keep your data but trade the games ina nd play it in 3d!!!!
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Actualy I think the 2 team plot from emerald should stay the same. emerald was my first game and it was way more exiting than ruby and saphire were.
But i do agree that contests should stay in place of battle tents and that rayquaza should have to wait untill after the E4. and ABSOLUTELY DO NOT (and i mean DO NOT) ruin the battle frontier like you did in hg/ss. keep it just the way it is in emerald but with the lvl 50 changing and better graphics. |
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Based on the fact that the remakes of Red/Blue and Gold/Silver took about 8-10 years to come out, it would be the right timeframe for them to release a remake anytime in the next few years. While I don't believe that a remake is a neccessity (considering its possible to move Hoenn Pokemon to Gen IV, and Gen IV Pokemon into Black and White), it is almost a given that they will go through with them, even though I don't see them being as anticipated as HeartGold and SoulSilver were.
I'll be completely fine with these games as long as they add the Emerald Battle Frontier, and they don't screw it up by changing it too much. |
Hell great if there were an Gen III remake.
They should just level-down Rayquaza from 70 to 40-50'ish, instead of making it obtainble after E4. Sure, Mewtwo is obtainable after E4 on Gen I, but you can already capture all 3 Legendary Birds pre-E4. Suicune too on Gen II (Crystal); Ho-oh/Lugia G/S, Dialga/Palkia/Giratina on Gen IV. I also hope it wouldn't be as lame as HGSS grinding-wise. |
I will buy this remake if a certain scene is rendered in 3D.
No matter how many times I look at this, its win level never seems to decrease. |
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Whaaat? They shouldn't make another version exclusives again.
They should remake Emerald with all Hoenn and 3rd gen Pokemon avaible. While the counter part will be a remake of Yellow. NOT AS IN A REMAKE OF THE 1ST GEN GAMES. As in a game slightly based on the anime and orange islands and an advanced and twisted story. All 1st gen will be avaible in that one. You could visit Hoenn after the E4 in the Yellow remake and the Emerald one, Kanto. Oh and it would be cool if they replaced the sprites with 3Desque models like in HG/SS : D OK you may now destroy my post with all your meaness. ;_; |
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I hope they follow Emerald's plotline...but then there'd only be one remake. Sadly, I think they'll do an R/S, but we can always hope.... |
I don't mind if the remakes have Emerald's plotline just as long as there'll be no battle frontier.
Btw, do you think people would want a FR/LG remake after the R/S remake. I can't imagine what gen 6 would look like when people will want a D/P remake. |
I would totally buy an Emerald remake. It was my first game and I love it. And I also liked Battle Frontier, but could never beat it, even with my brother's help. However, I was not a fan of the Battle Tents. It seemed like a rather pointless way of preparing for Battle Frontier. Also, I think I could have gotten into contests more were they not condensed up in Lilycove.
I was a fan of the two-team plot, as was my brother. He had played Sapphire and much preferred Emerald's plot. |
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I would LOVE a R/S remake. :0 It would be awesome hearing the remixes of the music (since I really liked R/S/E's music). <333 And seeing the legendary Pokemon scenes in 3D would be nice too. :3
If Game Freak does make a R/S remake, I am definitely going with the Ruby remake. Sapphire was horrible with its lame version exclusives (I just really wanted Mawile =/). It just sucks that GF never remakes the 3rd installation. I've never gotten to play Emerald. =/ |
Hell yes. 3d everything would be nice, and new scenery. especially for parts like the aqua base or the volcano.
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He has like 9 vids on remake hints too. |
i honestly wouldnt buy it if it was remade!
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It's obvious they will, Nintendo loves money and they know people love remakes. Wouldn't be suprised if they tried to remake D/P/Plt.
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I made this scheme, to see a pattern in the games:
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Not really something with patterns in games, but Hoenn is the only region not (yet) available on Nintendo DS. Kanto, Johto, Sinnoh and Isshu are. We have only not seen Hoenn in semi-3D graphics, and since Hoenn only appears in RSE, remakes would be made to feature Hoenn on DS. http://learntodriveashford.co.uk/images/red_cross_icon.png Against Remakes Code:
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So, there are arguments in favor of and against, but in the end almost everyone will buy RSE remakes. And since HGSS were such a succes, I'm positive that RSE will be remade! |
lol. I brought up this point in the IRC. Or at least the each generation is remade 2 gens later point. XD
Personally, I feel that B/W could fall into yet another era with the revamps they did to the battle system, the dialogue, story presentation, and other things. Thus, the "new era" point would be null and void with that. |
Interesting contemplation. But I'm just going to stick with the general formula that they use and the fact that Nintendo milks the Pokemon franchise. And also, since RSE are considered the worst among all Pokemon games (for whatever reason, even though I think with BW's release we realize how horrid DP were) they will want to remake it to fix up on what the originals lacked and what was disliked about them.
But I would buy them in a heartbeat. It's my favorite region to play through and I can't even tell you how many times I've played through them. |
Notice how Kanto has been in every gen? I think they'll make some sort of sequel set in Kanto in the distant future (when is BW set?), if they just keep remaking then it'll be boring, pointless and stupid.
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but before or along with a hoenn remake, KANTO WILL somehow be re-explored just like every single other gen , probably
gen 2: kanto-johto connection gen 3: fr/lg gen 4: hg/ss, same as gen 2 gen 5:??? |
It's possible, but it won't be for three years. B/W's third game (obv Opal) will come first, announced about March 2012, then a year later, R/S remakes will be announced - if it does happen. Personally, I don't really care. HG was sort of boring for me and now that B/W exist, and I've seen some screenshots, I just want to explore a new region rather than go back to older ones. I guess I wouldn't have said that in the past, but meh, I'm over the past of Pokemon, bring on the future!
...but yes I would probably buy Sapphire's remake if it does go ahead :x |
I personally think that there going to remake the 3rd generation games with the 5th generation. I just got a sprite sheet off of The Spriter's Resouce for the 5th Generation version of the 3rd generation pokemon, and they all have new poses, while the 1st, 2nd, and 4th generation pokemon have the same poses. Hmmm.... Plus it would go with the "milking" of the franchise.
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If they re-make Ruby and Sapphire then I would buy it. I enjoyed the gameboy games of it and "Ruby" version got me starting to play Pokemon games again. It could be possible that they are going to be making a remake since they made one for FR/LG, HG/SS and Platinum.
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It is most possible that Ruby and Sapphire are going to be remade, Nintendo would be making quite a profit out of it, but if it was made they would have to do it in a couple of years time to let Black and White do their thing first, then they may go onto a sequel to fix it all up into the new graphics and such. And if not, they'll most likely remake Fire Red and Leaf Green instead.
I'd personally buy it in a flash if it went ahead, the Hoenn region is my favourite out of all made so far and the only game set I seem to keep wanting to play. |
Remakes? Yes plz. I'd buy them the moment they came out. I'd bash every little child out of my way (AND their parents) just to get one game. They were hands down my favorite games. I loved the region, story line, and gameplay.
But the fact that it IS possible is kind of sad. Like Sydian said, Nintendo is milking Pokemon more than they do Mario; which is A LOT. Give the poor game designers a break. Their brains are fried as it is. They don't need anymore. (Though I'd kill to get a better E4 out of Hoenn) |
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Man i would love it if they made a remake of the Hoenn games on DS. I loved Ruby Sapphire and Emerald and if they remade it would just be the greatest thing in Pokemon for me
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To quote Nintendo Power, "they'll keep making new Pokémon games until the Pokégeddon." These will be among them.
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I like that Devon. Corp/Dream World reference.......I'm surprised this thread's lasted so long...we all, even me, just repeat ourselves every few pages, albeit with some slightly different phrasing.
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If they ever remake it, it would dominate the sales charts!
I would buy it since emerald was effin' fun. |
I doubt a remake is coming...
But one game I'd LOVE to see is something along the lines of "Pokemon Forever" or "Pokemon Elite" or "Pokemon Master". Which would follow a line of being able to catch EVERY pokemon from Gen 1 - 5, ALL the regions, and more rivals. If they ever released that. I'd be in heaven. |
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Major hint: BW containing Shoal Salt and Shoal Shell in hidden data, according to TVTropes! :cer_boogie: Since Generation IV items can't be migrated in, what would be the point of coding them (really hoping they aren't beta data). The return of HM Dive is pretty convincing as well. :)
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I don't really think there's a question of whether they'll make them or not.
Nintendo is a company, it's sole priority is to make money, a R/S remake would make money. |
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I buy all Pokémon games anyway. And Sapphire was the first Pokémon game I ever played, so I would be looking forward to this :)
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To be honest, there's a huge possibility that the things you mentioned in the first post do not hint towards a remake.
Just because they add some references, doesn't mean that they are hinting to the players that there will be a remake soon. It could mean lots of other things. |
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Eh, I don't think the series has moved far forward enough since the original RSE came out. What sweeping changes in gameplay has taken place since Generation III? They split the Specialness/Physicalness of a move from its type, Pokemon now hatch at level one, and the games now have sloppy, poorly done 3D graphics... that's the major stuff.
If you want them for the RSE Pokemon, go catch them in swarms. |
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Well pointed out....although I did say that weeks ago xD
Still, nice to haves somebody back my argument up? People seeing Shell Bell being available in Hg/Ss have probably argued that it points toward R/S/E remakes....so I think Dive and Shoal Salt/Shell is a way bigger hint (c'mon....it's more than a gold/silver pokeball in pokemon centres...I still maintain the gold bit's the same colour as the rest of the centre!) |
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you know, I didn't really like hoenn games much at their time (I really didn't like ANY of the 3rd generation. it was such a disappointment after the gen 2 games. especially the kanto remakes, you'd think they'd have been a little better done...).
but now that my desire for a johto remake has been fulfilled (and done MUCH better than the kanto remake was) I want to see hoenn again. I lost my game in a move and stuff, and I want to play it again if they remake it to gen 5 standards (like the johto remakes were gen 4 standard), the remakes will be VERY cool. I'm looking forward to seeing different seasons and 3d in hoenn! and day/night too, that'll make up for the letdown it caused before! |
Day/Night...too true....too true....I want the crickets making their noises in the night-time too...although this ain't sinnoh, so no random kricketune scaring the crap out of you like they doubtless would if you heard their cry randomly.
Seasons will be interesting, as it's preposterous to believe Hoenn has snow, isn't it? I once thought it did, until I realised it was ash.... |
Don't know if it's been mentioned but the Isshu Elite Four music as an extract from the Hoenn Elite Four music in it.
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I have a theory regarding seasons and the possible R/S remakes (idk if it's been mentioned but so what), anyway...
So the games begin in whatever is the opposing season (and that the seasons are set before playing and then can be altered afterwards), so you begin off in Summer in Sapphire, then as the storyline progresses, you go through Autumn (as your surroundings change from Summer into Autumn) then when you reach Winter by the time you get up to facing Kyogre (which would make the rain more believable/stand out more or something), after that, you go into Spring, where you start off the rest of your journey and it changes monthly (like in B/W) and it's opposite in Ruby. Because really, the seasons could be hinting at R/S remakes due to it tying in with the storyline in that way. |
Since Generation 5 has only slight compatibility with Generation 3 (IE you can transfer Pokemon from Generation 3 via generation 4) I'd say a remake is possible. To those of you who say then a remake of FireRed and Leafgreen would have to be done, no it wouldn't as they essentially remade most of those games into HeartGold and SoulSilver (what with Kanto being present, all Pokemon in Kanto being obtainable without the need to use Pal Park)
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I dont know if this is where everyone was posting the supposed hints for a Ruby/Sapphire remake in Pokemon Black/White, but there may be another hint..
On Serebii, it says "It has been announced that the Hoenn starters will be given over the Global Link for people who have purchased the Pokemon Black/White After Completion Guide..." |
Actually...I'd take that as a hint that they're not remaking them....as the starters are available. Also, the starters are available to all players of Hg/Ss, not just the wi-fi equipped....which is one of the reasons people have against the Kanto re-remakes...still, good point!
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There probably has already been some kind of discussion about this in this thread, but I think the fact that we have Dive as a HM here is a very definite proof of that there's a Hoenn remake to come.
I mean, it isn't like you can go underwater in Isshu, right? Or did I miss something? |
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Yes. Yes it does seem pointless.
But I still consider it very strong evidence that there'll be a Hoenn remake. |
Yeah...I wasn't sure, not knowing how much it was useable, but in a way, its' pointlessness makes more of a reason for the remakes as we now have a HM with less use in-game than Defog, arguably less than Rock Climb had in Hg/Ss, or even Whirlpool in said game.
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It's one of two much cheaper and quicker options for Game Freak to move over to 3DS development then creating a whole new game, the other being the third game in the BW series.
Hell there's probably development work going on as we speak. |
I think Nintendo should consider this since they already have like what over 500 pokemon now including the New B/W ones if they were to make another game that would make 700 odd. If they remade R/S they would not have to make any new pokemon and still people would buy the game, Which in Nintendo's eyes in WIN, WIN and WIN :) Oh yeah and if it did go ahead i'd be first in line best gen so far in my opinion.
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Gen 3 has abit of a way to pass to get 5 but it has to go 3, 4 then to 5 because of all (ithink) of the new DSs not having a GBA slot. trade back is not possible so id get a remake if they make it less of one way thing when trading. The dive thing looks like a good sign if it has little use in gen 5. I dont think they need a FRLG remake because kanto (including it legandaries) are all present in HGSS, I cant think if anything you need FRLG for that you cant do in HGSS. Id hope they would add things like in FRLG and HGSS rather than just a copy but I dont know what they can add. |
I find that happening sometime, but I hope it's not gonna be next. Dx Because it will mess up the timeline. Because Isshu and Hoenn in the same generation will mix it up, since Hoenn with Kanto is 3 years before Sinnoh/Johto. And Cynthia's Pokemon in Isshu are way stronger, plus more things also. So probably not now... But soon.
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What I wish they would do in the R/S remakes, is follow the plot of Emerald, but make it so that if you get the Ruby remake, you get Groudon and Rayquaza, and if you get the Sapphire remake, you get Kyogre and Rayquaza. I don't know how that would work, but the Emerald storyline is just so much better. :x
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I can't remember if I posted here or not...
Anyway, there obviously will be a R/S remake, as certain as tomorrow I'm back at school -__- Can't argue with those odd's. Next is D/P remakes XD |
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I hope they do, i personally think Hoenn was quickly made and people have forgot about it so it needs some re-acknowledgement in the Pokemon Community.
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I would sooo buy it. There's this guy on youtube, ranberth (sorry, I can't post links yet) and he has like 12 videos on proof of this.
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I'm conflicted, because I'm worried they'll change the characters and only let you fight one evil team per version, which would really suck. I loved Emerald, and I want to fight Aqua and Magma. Otherwise I'm all for this idea, and I think it will definitely happen.
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Hoenn is my favorite region. It came out during a sentimental part of my life and I will forever have nostagia due to that. Me and my best friend (who no longer plays Pokemon) shared so many moments in those games. He even said if it's remade he would get it. Hoenn remakes ftw.
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I don't know that the hints are substantial enough like they were in D/P.
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Say you had the Sapphire remake. Rayquaza would still appear and make both Groudon and Kyogre descend to the depths with Hyper Voice. After attempting to control the legendaries with Mt. Pyre's orbs, both Archie and Maxie would revisit the mountain and return them. The lady guardian of the 2 orbs say that the player should hold onto one for some time to discourage any repeat events. Or maybe soon after Rayquaza intervenes, after capturing Rayquaza, Wallace still notes heavy rain hovering over Sootopolis. You acquire the Blue Orb to tame Kyogre, enter the Cave of Origin and encounter Kyogre, either KOing or capturing it. Then the heavy rain dissipates, and you return the Blue Orb back to its rightful resting place on Mt. Pyre... ...Something like that. I don't know, but I have a feeling Emerald's storyline could really work well in the remakes. :nervous: Quote:
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I'd get it for sure. Those games remain my favorites so far, even though Black and White will probably take them down. However, a remake of them in the greatness of the 3D style used in Black and White would be incredible.
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I hope we get a R/S/E remake!
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However, BW does not seem to continue the trend of HGSS, apparently only allowing the player to catch the version mascot and Kyuremu. So, I'm assuming to be in line with the original, the RS remakes will preserve the 2/3 legendary availability of the originals. :( Though we never know, Game Freak could allow us to catch the Weather Trio all in one game, with the version mascot present in the Cave of Origin (or its thematic location of Emerald) and Rayquaza present in the Sky Pillar. Both would be available before the Elite 4 (at low levels, though, as mentioned above), with the version mascot counterpart being available only after the Elite 4 in another location. Personally, I'd prefer for them to be available in the thematic locations (i.e., in Ruby, Kyogre would be available in Seafloor Cavern rather than Marine Cave; in Sapphire, Groudon would be available in Mt. Chimney rather than Terra Cave; both of which would tie in with their original resting places in Emerald). |
That's implying that everyone doesn't mean "A remake of Pokémon Emerald split into two versions with slightly differing wild Pokémon availability" when they say "RS Remake", like how Heart Gold and Soul Silver are basically two remakes of Crystal with slight differences. Game Freak not using Emerald as the base for a Hoenn remake wouldn't make much sense.
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I would totally buy it! Pokemon Sapphire was my favourite game as a kid, as a matter of fact, I'm playing it right now!
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I'll be the first to buy the remakes when they're released (Yes, I have full confidence that they will be made). I'm hoping for the following:
+Improved outfits for the characters, possibly different appearance for May. -Pokemon Follow Me feature like in HG/SS. Possibly introduced in this manner: You go to Route 101 to see what's going on, like in R/S/E, and find Professor Birch attempting to capture a wild Treeko, Torchic, and Mudkip that have escaped their PokeBalls. Your rival is also helping him. They see you and ask you to try and grab one of the three before they escape into the wild. Which ever one you grab is your starter, your rival grabs the one who has the advantage, and Prof. Birch grabs the last one. This would then lead to your rival challenging you to a match. Also, the event of going to Route 103 would be altered to having to deliver the third Starter to a young Trainer on the Route. You'd travel to Route 103 and deliver the Starter to Wally, who'd promptly thank you and return to Petalburg. +Both Teams involved! Emerald's version of the story was great, so why change it? If anything, alter the Teams' positions in the story. In Emerald, Magma was fought more than Aqua, so for the Sapphire remake, change that around and keep it the same for the Ruby remake. Possibly have Team Aqua go to the Undersea Cavern to awaken Kyogre in the way Magma awakens Groudon in Mt. Chimney. -Regigigas! Since the Regis orginally debutted in Hoenn without much purpose other than to cause a massive migraine with the process required to get them, why not have a fourth chamber located in the Sealed Chamber where you face Regigigas after you capture the other three? -More Rival Battles! Seriously, you don't even fight your rival's starter at its final evolution in the original! And you fight Wally twice which sucks. So, why not set up something like this: -After obtaining Starter: Fight May/Brendan -After beating Aqua/Magma Grunt in Rusturf Tunnel: Fight May/Brendan -After gaining access to Mauville City: Fight May/Brendan -Before fighting Wattson: Fight Wally -After defeating Norman: Fight Wally (Recieve HM03 Surf) -After Weather Institute: Fight May/Brendan -At Lilycove Department Store: Fight Wally -After Sootopolis Gym: Fight May/Brendan (Final Battle) -Victory Road: Fight Wally (Final Battle) |
It doesn't seem old enough to be remade to me... I mean, Gold and Silver were still running on the Gameboy Color - so there were major changes that could be made visually and stuff. Ruby and Sapphire still look pretty much like the newer games. I guess they could improve some outfits and such and change some things around... but the major improvement of Heart Gold and Soul Silver was the amazing graphics improvement and visual style.
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That's assuming these games come out for the DS.
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^3DS in 2013. They'll be released to celebrate their 10th anniversary, just like HGSS did for Gold and Silver :)
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So we should TOTALLY get remake's of Black and White. Would bring back so many memories! But yeah, seriously, RSE deserve a remake. HGSS has Kanto in them, so Nintendo wouldn't really do that for a long time. RBY/FRLG remakes would bring back memories but now it's just not worth it. |
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An RS remake? Clearly Nintendo are stalling for time so they don't have to make Pokémon Iron Genesis Version - the ultimate game where the main character conquers a growing dark force to impress/entertain the supreme overlord of the pokéworld, me, Kevin.
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It will probably come to the consol after 3DS.
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