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Tanvir November 19th, 2010 7:26 AM

Well, yes I would definetely buy it if it comes out. But I doubt it will come out and/or come out in another 5 years lol.

The 100 Mega Shock November 19th, 2010 8:50 AM

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Originally Posted by .Kaiser (Post 6296084)
*fast forwarding to 2015/16*

So we should TOTALLY get remake's of Black and White. Would bring back so many memories!

But yeah, seriously, RSE deserve a remake. HGSS has Kanto in them, so Nintendo wouldn't really do that for a long time. RBY/FRLG remakes would bring back memories but now it's just not worth it.

i think you mean 2020, bro.

Rossay November 20th, 2010 9:03 AM

I loved Ruby and Saphire, they're probably my favorite versions. I think the fact BW has Dive as an HM is a pretty big give away that an RSE remake is on the cards.

ZenTheObscure November 26th, 2010 12:53 PM

RoughRuby & SmoothSapphire anyone?

Bluerang1 November 27th, 2010 1:22 AM

Yeah, I don't think they will be called Magma Ruby and Aqua Sapphire seeing as Groundon isn't a Magma Pokemon, but then again, what do Ho-Oh and Lugia have to do with Heart and Soul respectively.

I was thinking along the lines of Dry Ruby and Wet Sapphire though the latter doesn't sound so hot. So Solid Ruby and Liquid Sapphire, in terms of state of matter (Rayquaza being gas as in air). But they could make a trio based on that in future games.

Also, I don't want them to replace May and Brendan so what we the story be? A carbon-copy? No one would want that. So I was thinking that they failed the Hoenn League, traveled to other regions, failed, then come back to start all over again. So it can appeal to a new audience. They are older. Regarding Gym Leaders, maybe they'll all say "Oh I recognise you, this Gym has changed a lot since you last came, it won't be easy" etc. And Wally is League Champion after so long. Brendan/May will be more rivalry, the other person stayed in Hoenn, stopped training to help Prof. Birch more, but upon seeing the other person, wants to start over again. Steven is there too. No Isshu Pokemon will be in the wild, but maybe be imported to the Safari zone. The team will be Sky Team, after Rayquaza? Or Magma and Aqua come back...

That's all :)

I miss Hoenn :(

hack1 November 27th, 2010 3:30 AM

Yes! I would love them. I think Hoenn has best Pokemon desings (Blaziken, Banette, Salamence, Swalot, Linoone and many others) and I love ocean routes. Also, Emerald Battle Frontier was better than Gen 4.

Weavile05 November 27th, 2010 7:57 AM

I think they should remake it for the money (never fails) and also so we don't have to worry about our Internal Battery's in our RSE games.

avolonsaber November 27th, 2010 8:44 AM

I'd love it if they remake Ruby & Sapphire! I think after the third game in the B&W series comes out they'll remake Ruby and Sapphire. So many things hint to it, like the green(emerald) flashes on the bottom battle screen in HG/SS, or the red/blue backgrounds on the bottom battle screen, DIVE returning in B&W too. There's more but I can't think of them, lol. They remade every other game, so there isn't a reason not to do Ruby and Sapphire.

XBA November 27th, 2010 9:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 6311026)
Yeah, I don't think they will be called Magma Ruby and Aqua Sapphire seeing as Groundon isn't a Magma Pokemon, but then again, what do Ho-Oh and Lugia have to do with Heart and Soul respectively.

I'm thinking they were just picking what sounded good.

I would love to see remakes of Ruby and Sapphire.

They were my first games, and my favorite generation.

Bluerang1 November 27th, 2010 9:19 AM

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Originally Posted by avolonsaber (Post 6311516)
I'd love it if they remake Ruby & Sapphire! I think after the third game in the B&W series comes out they'll remake Ruby and Sapphire. So many things hint to it, like the green(emerald) flashes on the bottom battle screen in HG/SS, or the red/blue backgrounds on the bottom battle screen, DIVE returning in B&W too. There's more but I can't think of them, lol. They remade every other game, so there isn't a reason not to do Ruby and Sapphire.

Yes! Yes! Red and Blue! That's it! I've been wondering what those colours in Lance's League room meant! Thank you!!! :D

DarkVhozon November 27th, 2010 9:24 AM

I'd buy it I still love emerald but I would like to have the extra tm's and moves of later games. Of the pokemon native to each region, Hoenn has A LOT of my fav's(probably in the area of 75%)
And lets be honest we are all pokemon fans here and will more likely than not buy it as said its all about the $money$

Amore November 27th, 2010 1:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 6311566)
Yes! Yes! Red and Blue! That's it! I've been wondering what those colours in Lance's League room meant! Thank you!!! :D


They could also be referencing Red/Blue, where "we" (not me personally, I did that in LeafGreen in '08) first challenged Lance :P

Or they could be because they're "royal" colours, and the gold and red all around the Indigo Plateau and Lance's room makes it seem very "royal"....and as Champion, the most powerful trainer around (Except for Red, and then you, once you beat Red, and I guess Silver, thanks to your double-match, where Silver normally outlasts me), he's basically the king, as he could do what he wanted really.

Sorry to put a downer on it...I've never noticed that as a hint....I guess because on the battle screen you have Red, Green, Blue, and Yellow boxes...I assumed it referenced the original 4.

The 100 Mega Shock November 29th, 2010 9:08 AM

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Originally Posted by avolonsaber (Post 6311516)
So many things hint to it, like the green(emerald) flashes on the bottom battle screen in HG/SS, or the red/blue backgrounds on the bottom battle scree,.

I think you're trying too hard to find hints.

avolonsaber November 29th, 2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock (Post 6315596)
I think you're trying too hard to find hints.

Lol. Maybe so, I think the flashes are hints though. I forgot what game it was, I think Diamond or Platinum, but the bottom battle screen would flash Gold and Silver?

matt steel November 29th, 2010 10:26 AM

i wasnt too keen on third gen...probably because back then i wasnt used to all the weather etc. but now i would probably enjoy a remade version. Let's hope theyre jirachi and deoxys spaceshuttle works this time round lol

avolonsaber November 30th, 2010 8:45 AM

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Originally Posted by matt steel (Post 6315691)
Let's hope theyre jirachi and deoxys spaceshuttle works this time round lol

Lol. I remember that rumor. "Talk to the scientist and when he says the rocket has launched 100 times you can go in space", or something like that. Imagine that as an event O:

Sydian November 30th, 2010 8:55 AM

I do hope they improve the rival. I mean, Brendan/May didn't even get to the final evolution stage of their starter. That's kinda sad. The last battle with them is in Lilycove, and unless you ditched your starter, are doing an NFE run, or just hate training it that much, you're more than likely to have your starter at its last stage.

♠Dawn Rayne♠ November 30th, 2010 9:14 AM

They should remake it and perhaps add an extra area featuring more Kanto/Johto pokemon :)

Sydian November 30th, 2010 9:27 AM

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They should remake it and perhaps add an extra area featuring more Kanto/Johto pokemon
Oh yes, definitely. :) I would like a little bit more in the Hoenn Dex, similar to what they did for Platinum and HGSS, allowing new Evos and such. And don't forget, Isshu Pokemon could also be included too. However, from what I understand, Isshu Pokemon are "exotic" or something and that's why they're so radically different from other region's Pokemon, and Isshu is really far away from other regions as well. But Game Freak would probably find a way to put them in there, like what they did with HGSS' Hoenn/Sinnoh Sounds on the PokeGear. And older Pokemon are in Isshu anyway, so...

Bluerang1 November 30th, 2010 10:15 AM

Ouch, my long post was ignored xD Regarding the incldement of Isshu Pokemon, they'll be in the Safari Zone, imported from Isshu ;)

Theab95 November 30th, 2010 10:27 AM

I hope we can go to kanto in the remakes

naruck23 December 1st, 2010 2:13 PM

Of course i never miss a RPG or Dungeon pokemon game!

I still have the first pokemon RED and Yellow and i still play those games i enjoy playing Pokemon Ruby cuz i still have it.

I vote yes.

Sydian December 1st, 2010 4:49 PM

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Ouch, my long post was ignored xD Regarding the incldement of Isshu Pokemon, they'll be in the Safari Zone, imported from Isshu
Aww sorry. XD I tend to glaze over long posts. But yeah that would work nicely I think. :)

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I hope we can go to kanto in the remakes
Why? Kanto is in every generation. I personally am sick of Kanto. It's everywhere.

Kirbychu December 1st, 2010 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sydian (Post 6317071)
I do hope they improve the rival. I mean, Brendan/May didn't even get to the final evolution stage of their starter. That's kinda sad. The last battle with them is in Lilycove, and unless you ditched your starter, are doing an NFE run, or just hate training it that much, you're more than likely to have your starter at its last stage.

They should make Wally the only main rival.

Butterfree-Charizard December 1st, 2010 5:39 PM

I like Ruby and Saphire a remake would be fun to play.

dithyrambos December 4th, 2010 2:17 PM

Well, I missed out on my chance to play RSE back when they were released for two reasons:

1.) I didn't have a GBA ( anymore )
2.) By the time Emerald came out, I did have a Phat DS ( and now I have a DSi, soooo..... ), but I was unwilling to spend $30+ on a game for a platform I considered to be outdated.


Whether or not the GBA was indeed out-of-date at that time is up for debate, but, yeah.... I never played RSE, despite how badly I wanted to. The carts looked like GEMS! How cool was that? Also, Phoebe. My sweet, sweet moe Pacific Islander Ghost-type specialist....

I'd DEFINITELY buy the remakes, assuming they'd ever be made. I just don't see them being made.... until after the fifth gen or so. We just received GS remakes, which came about six years after the first set of remakes for RGB. Assuming [Grey] comes out in a year or two, I don't think GF is going to squeeze out another pair of remakes in less than 1.5 years of HGSS. I think we'll see RSE remakes after the enhanced version of BW, using the BW engine as a base.

Also, it's safe to assume that GF isn't working, or has just started working on, Gen VI, which will undoubtedly debut in the 3DS, even if by that time the 3DS is on it's way out to make room for a 3DS Lite or whatever. Why? Because the specs for 3DS successor do not even exist yet. Anything GF is working right now is being made with the 3DS in mind ( sans Pokemon Grey, mayhaps ). I'm thinking they might churn out a remake for RSE to hold us over while they work and re-work the engine for this new game.

So, following the time-line I've set, we might see remakes in 2013/14.... Which would only be 3-4 years after the HGSS remakes... but, whatever, by that time it would have been 10 years since RSE were released. Same as the time-line for GS and HGSS.

I'm not looking for patterns here, just hints as to what GF finds "acceptable," so to speak. I'd expect anywhere from 6-10 years to pass before a new set of remakes to appear, but a 10-year anniversary or a particular era being two-gens old would also qualify it for remake material.

/ramble

I think "RubySun" and "SapphireMoon" would make great names for remakes~!


The 100 Mega Shock December 4th, 2010 6:05 PM

Pokémon Ruby was released in 2002 in Japan.

It can go either way as to what gets released next. Either the 3rd game in the BW series, which would probably be out two years after BW (2012) or a remake of RS, released around ten years after the games, much like HGSS (again, 2012).

It's also a fair bet to say that development on BW begun at the very least during the development of Platinum, as the whole lot of their team doesn't need to be tasked with creating either an enhancement or a remake.

Eagledelt December 5th, 2010 11:30 AM

The only question here is when are they going to be released :/
Everything else has already been remade, Kanto (twice, one in Fire Red and the other on HG/SS, because you have access to all Kanto Legends and etc). Johto has been remade. All these games went from their respective "graphic generations" (I, II and III) into generation IV. So, RSE is the only that misses this remake ;D . The only question here is time.

Guy December 8th, 2010 6:32 AM

If they go by ten year anniversary, then we can expect a 2012 / 2013 release in Japan and the US respectively. What The 100 Mega Shock mention pretty much covered my own thoughts. Whenever it's to be released though, my bet is that it'll probably be for the 3DS, if that wasn't already said before.

zoo3891 December 11th, 2010 1:46 PM

If it's made purely for the 3DS then probably not, but if it's DS compatible then yes. The pattern of how pokemon has been releasing their games says it will be made within less than three years and made for the DS

Manaphy.10 December 16th, 2010 5:52 PM

A ruby and sapphire remake would be great! Hoenn was a great region.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 18th, 2010 7:02 PM

Something tells me they are going to be after the third version comes out. I also think they might be for the 3DS only or have 3Ds graphical updates.

Christopher December 18th, 2010 10:54 PM

I would love a remake though them making it for the 3Ds only is highly unlikely in my opinion as it would damper the sales as while I would pay a good 50$ for a R/S/E remake I'm not going to get a 3Ds just to play it. I see them making it for both Normal and 3Ds give the 3d one more graphical design and such.

KingCyndaquil December 19th, 2010 1:42 PM

well i think emerald will be remade, wanna know why? lol take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT3DUpjYD6E


there are 9 videos in this series, its woth watching them ALL

The 100 Mega Shock December 20th, 2010 6:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KingCyndaquil (Post 6350415)
well i think emerald will be remade, wanna know why? lol take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT3DUpjYD6E


there are 9 videos in this series, its woth watching them ALL

Just reading the description to the first one is full of hilariously bad claims.

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One of them is because the DSi is going to rule and will have more people buying it.
Hindsight maybe, but,

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/3988/333273-laughing_elf_man_super.jpg

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-Regirock, Regice, Registeel are in Pokémon Platinum, at a lower Level than in Ru/Sa/Em.
-Their Ruins can only be unlocked with a Special Pokemon - Regigigas from a Pokémon Event.

Other reasons:
-Kyogre in HeartGold
-Groudon in SoulSilver
-Rayquaza in both HeartGold and SoulSilver, but can only be encountered if the player has both Johto Kyogre and Groudon in his/her Pokémon Party.
What has this got to do with anything?

Hell, those should be reasoning for there to not be a RS remake, because Game Freak made a large effort to remove the need to own any of the GBA games in order to catch special Pokémon.

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The tiles in the Pokémon Centers formed a Poké Ball pattern with Gold and Silver color, this is changed in HG/SS to a Black Background with Green Poké Ball Pattern, just like when you encounter Rayquaza in HG/SS...

...One other thing: Arceus! Check it's color. Arceus is the Promotional Pokemon and hint for Gold/Silver remakes: Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSIlver. Arceus' Arch is of Gold color, it's body color is White which could also represent Platinum, but also Grayish, which reflects to Silver. But now take a look on its arch, it has like Emerald gemstones on it. So, shortly, since Arceus is the God Pokemon, it could have a link too in the Hoenn region.
I don't even know what to say.

I'm not saying there isn't going to be a remake of Ruby and Sapphire (Because it's pretty damn likely there will be) but for none of the reasons here, which are just grasping at microscopic straws for anything that could called evidence.

bigplrbear December 20th, 2010 9:59 PM

After remaking R/S/E, there won't be any more to remake on the DS, right? Remaking Diamond/Pearl and B/W would be pretty redundant.

I wonder what they'd come out with after a R/S/E remake? Maybe a DS coleseum game?

The 100 Mega Shock December 21st, 2010 8:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bigplrbear (Post 6352775)
After remaking R/S/E, there won't be any more to remake on the DS, right? Remaking Diamond/Pearl and B/W would be pretty redundant.

I wonder what they'd come out with after a R/S/E remake? Maybe a DS coleseum game?

Why would Game Freak still be developing games for the DS? It's over 6 years old now, and the 3DS' release is in less than two months.

There's the possibility that the HGSS team has been working on something for release in 2011, but they might just have easily decided to rather concentrate on 3DS development for a year and come out with something in 2012. Remembering Ruby and Sapphire, they (in Japan) came out in November 2002 after the Game Boy Advance was released in March 2001.

Weavile05 December 26th, 2010 8:06 PM

Well, remakes Generally come when they have the opportunity to be better than they were on they're original console. Since they have the Graphical overhaul from 4th to 5th Gen, DPP could theoretically be remade on the 3DS, where the Graphics could be even better!

Theab95 December 27th, 2010 6:18 AM

If the last gym leader in remake of ruby is wallace , in sapphire remake juan like black and white it would be awesome, hopefully the champion is steven.

Pokémon Grey January 1st, 2011 9:35 PM

That would be EPIC!!!!!

but i really want a powerful Rival (Emerald from the Manga Series, anyone? )

GlitchCity January 3rd, 2011 6:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock (Post 6353462)
Why would Game Freak still be developing games for the DS? It's over 6 years old now, and the 3DS' release is in less than two months.

There's the possibility that the HGSS team has been working on something for release in 2011, but they might just have easily decided to rather concentrate on 3DS development for a year and come out with something in 2012. Remembering Ruby and Sapphire, they (in Japan) came out in November 2002 after the Game Boy Advance was released in March 2001.

Wow, I didnt realize how old Ruby and Sapphire are now xD and yes it is time for Pokemon to upgrade to the 3DS. Correct me if Im wrong but I heard right before the release of Black and White in japan, gamefreak was able to spend some time toying with the 3DS. Oh boy oh boy, I cannot wait. Just imagine how awesome the scecret bases will look on the 3DS.

Also, I wonder who they are going to choose to be the champion. Steven or Wallace. Or both? xD

Iceshadow3317 January 3rd, 2011 8:01 PM

I do not remember posting on here but I really hope they do remake them. Hoenn is by far my favorite gen in both show and game. Why wouldn't they remake it? They remade Red/Green/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/and Crystal.

If they do remake it will be a year or so after Black and White.

KingCyndaquil January 5th, 2011 11:43 AM

Well, although im excited for a remake, i just don't think R/S will be remade, so yeah im one of those 'Emerald Remake fans', but before i get a thousand and two ppl on my back, listen to this..

In HG/SS in the celadon city houses, go up stairs to the game freak room, there is a man with a GREEN hat and he talks about remaking A (one) game, what can that mean? They stated that there will be no Yellow remake, its clear that emerald would be remade if you look at that and the other clues (houses have green roofs in Kanto, the gate connecting routes and cities in kanto look like an upside down emerald, the emerald mine in the B/W gym, the emeralds in cerealian cave etc).

The 100 Mega Shock January 5th, 2011 2:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KingCyndaquil (Post 6382237)
Well, although im excited for a remake, i just don't think R/S will be remade, so yeah im one of those 'Emerald Remake fans', but before i get a thousand and two ppl on my back, listen to this..

In HG/SS in the celadon city houses, go up stairs to the game freak room, there is a man with a GREEN hat and he talks about remaking A (one) game, what can that mean? They stated that there will be no Yellow remake, its clear that emerald would be remade if you look at that and the other clues (houses have green roofs in Kanto, the gate connecting routes and cities in kanto look like an upside down emerald, the emerald mine in the B/W gym, the emeralds in cerealian cave etc).

When people say 'R/S remake' they mean 'Emerald remake'. It's the same thing with some little additions.

Everyone calls HG/SS Gold and Siver remakes (and is what they're advertised as) but they're technically remakes that build mostly off what was in Crystal with slight differences in Wild Pokémon encounters and like one event between each other.

Sydian January 5th, 2011 3:08 PM

I think he was more so referring to mixing the Aqua/Magma plots like Emerald did, and if they do RS remakes, they can't really well be called remakes if you have to fend off both teams. I do prefer Emerald over RS though, but having EtherealEmerald doesn't seem likely since it's just one game and not two, like the other remakes have been released as.

PatJamma January 5th, 2011 4:02 PM

I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. maybe after gen VI. not after gen V. Here's why: think people what did Red/Blue and Gold/Silver have in common? They were completely incompatible with Ruby/Sapphire. What happened next? FireRed/LeafGreen. Then jump all the way to Diamond/Pearl release. GBA games are compatible making first, third and forth gen pokemon easily obtainable in one game but not second gen pokemon. Thus HeartGold/SoulSilver. Now what do all these game have in common? A version of every gen is compatible in one way or another. So tell me where do Ruby/Sapphire remakes have room here?

The 100 Mega Shock January 5th, 2011 5:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sydian (Post 6382516)
I think he was more so referring to mixing the Aqua/Magma plots like Emerald did, and if they do RS remakes, they can't really well be called remakes if you have to fend off both teams. I do prefer Emerald over RS though, but having EtherealEmerald doesn't seem likely since it's just one game and not two, like the other remakes have been released as.

I don't see what problem Game Freak would have with putting the encounter with either Groudon or Kyogre at an earlier stage in the game than the other, perhaps having one of the two teams play a greater involvement in the story or crossing paths with the hero more often than the other depending on which game you play.

I certainly don't imagine it's enough of an issue for Game Freak to contemplate reducing their potential profit by a great amount and releasing only a single game instead of two. Either that or working on some strange hodgepodge of RS and Emerald with what is and what isn't convinent.

Maxim January 6th, 2011 9:42 AM

Oh, somewhere where I can share my RSEmakes ideas. I can't on Bulbagarden as I'm banned, nor can I on Serebiiforums as they don't like speculation there.

Well, as some people, I think that a sequel would be better (contemporary with DPPtHGSS or BW). I don't really want an exact remake of RSE. The Hoenn region isn't a nostalgic thing to me. But I'd love to return to Hoenn. I'd be really angry if Unova is the only main game region for this Generation.

So... My ideas, mostly strange and not happening.

-Sequel means new main characters. But old characters must be doing something too. I can see May being Birch's assistant. As of Brendan, he was talking something about opening a Gym in Emerald (if not chosen as a player). Maybe he'd do it (the Gym would be unofficial, and probably post-E4). Would be awesome if they remembered it.

-I'd like these games to have a new rival. RSE didn't have a real rival. Both Brendan/May and Wally were in fact pseudo-rivals. There must be a Hoenn rival.

-As for Wally, I can see him taking Norman's position of the Petalburg City Gym Leader. As for Norman, I think he could be promoted to be the Hoenn Champion! That's because I have the PokeSpe image of him stuck in my head. Norman was as strong as Steven in PokeSpe. I know that manga =/= games but I can really see Norman as the Champion.

-Steven could success his father in being the president of Devon Corporation. He could still be battle-able post-game (with power-upped team with Pokemon from other generations) and he'd play some important part in the story.

-PokeNavi should have a videophone, with a faceshot for every registered character (of course, phone calls should still be there. Don't want the boring Vs Seeker). Really, who wouldn't want normal Trainer faceshots? Trainer's Eyes would still be there. Also, more plot-related phone numbers! And this should not be Pokenavi's only enhancement. I can see this tool being OVERHAULED (though, not turned into a Poketch. Too many people wanted HGSS's Pokegear to be turned into Poketch. Luckily it didn't happen).

-Some people seem to think that Wattson should retire. I personally don't mind Wattson. But I got a crazy idea that Rydel (the bicycle guy) could replace him in the Gym. The Gym would still be at least partially Electric, but also more Speed-oriented (y'know, bicycles, speed).

-Give Winstrates more role, especially Vito. I'd really love to see more of this battling family. They could make their challenge more Gym-like or something.

-Bring polishable Badges back. Who wouldn't want them back?

-We need visible day/night cycle, there's no denying it. I can see seasons being sacrificed by the so-called "remake retardation" (this is, remakes ALWAYS lose some of generational innovations). But I would like seasons to be there too.

-Fix some BW's backsteps. I want walking Pokemon back. And Emerald's Double Battle system.

-As for Magma/Aqua story... This is a hard one. I think a good idea would be to have Neo-Aqua and Neo-Magma, being run by the Admins (remember how useless and unmemorable Team Magma/Aqua Admins were? I think it's time to give them more personality, stronger Pokemon and ARTWORKS). They would be looking for their Leaders, who somehow disappeared in the time interval. The Leaders would appear in the story climax.

-It would still be one Team for a game. But in a more interesting way than in original RS. The locations of the hideouts should vary between versions (doesn't make much sense for Magma to have a hideout on sea near Lilycove or for Aqua to have one in the volcano). It kind of sucked that the only difference between Magma in Ruby and Aqua in Sapphire were character sprites, their Pokemon and their objective, everything else was the same.

-Tate and Liza could become the new guardians of Mt. Pyre (I've never liked them and seen them as a Double Battle gimmick). They would be succeeded in the Gym by a female Dark-type Leader (yeah! Just like in those crazy Hoenn-in-HGSS rumors! Do you remember "Dark-type Gym Leader Lunah and Gardening Maniac Sakura"?). That means Sidney retires, but she could be somehow related to him.

-Juan is the Leader of Sootopolis Gym, Wallace got relegated to the Elite Four. The other three members don't change.

-I'm not a fan of Battle Frontiers but I admit that Hoenn one is so superior to Sinnoh one. It should be there, pretty much intact.

-Redo Rayquaza's story. Jade Orb must be there!

-And Regi quest too! Regigigas must play some role!

-I'm not sure what should be done to Contest Halls/Battle Tents. I think that one Contest Hall in Lilycove is enough. But Battle Tents were unneeded to, they were basically shrunken Battle Frontier. Maybe change them into something where you can gain EXP? Some place where you can always train your Pokemon is a nice thing.

-Now probably the most important idea - make this not just a Hoenn remake! Bring Sevii Islands too! This way, we won't need any FRLG remake. It would be very nice to see how the Sevii Islands changed and how are old characters doing - especially Lorelei (she should be battleable and have some backstory on how she retired from Kanto E4). Sevii is just a perfect post-E4 part! And you can catch old Pokemon there! With Sevii, those Gen. IV remakes can be perfect.

-If not Sevii, then at least give some functionality to the islands surrounding Hoenn. They're pretty big, would make good locations.

-What about event islands (Deoxys, Lugia/Ho-oh, Mew)? Should they be back?

-Some inter-region cameos. But we don't need Cynthia in each game. Oak, however, would be nice (being a classic). Bill could appear in Sevii Islands (being Celio's good friend) too.

-Keep Hoenn-specific items (Two Bikes, Devon Scope [and other Devon products], Pokeblocks, Volcanic Ash, Go-Googles, Orbs, Aqua/Magma Emblem should be version-specific).

-Wouldn't mind many surprises.

I'll add more when I think more up.

Bluerang1 January 11th, 2011 11:38 AM

^Nice speculation.

Any, seeing as the games will comes out next year* (10th anniversary and all, but it'll clash with Gray...) we should get news on them late his year :)

Tombo January 11th, 2011 6:29 PM

I really hope tht we do get to revisit the Hoenn region!!

RSE were great set of games!

I hope that this Gen gets a Yellow remake too!

ggctuk January 12th, 2011 6:37 AM

I agree with adding the Sevii Islands, it looked like they might do that in Emerald but changed their minds. But I still think any remakes should be based on Emerald. I think the Battle Frontier should be as in Emerald as well (although the layout could be a little improved). As with HeartGold and SoulSilver, I think Latias and Latios should be version-exclusive (personally I'd like Latias in Sapphire and Latios in Ruby as a sort of switcharound), and I think the Safari Zone should be expanded greatly to more than four areas (or more than six after you get the National Dex). I think Pal Park and transferring from generation 3 should return but restrict it to FireRed and LeafGreen.

blue January 12th, 2011 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 6392705)
^Nice speculation.

Any, seeing as the games will comes out next year* (10th anniversary and all, but it'll clash with Gray...) we should get news on them late his year :)


That's true, I never thought of it like that, I was thinking we were still in 2010 for some strange reason but yeah, next year and it will be 10 years since the release, it's gone fast! and also that's a good point, if they do the same as they did with HG/SS (10 years after it's original games) then like you said, it should be revealed later this year, can't wait for this and I hope they do remake them, it would make sence really considering they've remade every other game in the past series, RG, GS so RS should be next, besides Nintendo will do anything for money and this would surely rake in a few million.
Also, I've just figured out that Red & Green were made in 1996, then remade in 2004 (8 Years on) Gold & Silver were made in 1999, then remade in 2009 (10 Years on) so I wonder how they will do it in R/S, maybe with the Red & Green remake they only did it 8 years on as a test to see how well it would go down with the public and it's gone down well so they did the same with HG/SS but 10 years on as an anniversary and they're probally going to want to do something for R/S 10th anniversary, hence a remake and another point is that R/S/E (combined) sold 2 million more copies than G/S/C (combined) did and only 0.8 million short of R/B/G/Y (which has 4 games) so R/S/E are the best selling Pokémon games of the franchise so far and if R/G & G/C got a remake and sold less copies then theres a high chance that R/S will get a remake and theres still months to sell more copies.
But then it could be announced after the 3rd game of Pokémon Black & White is released, which by schedule should be 2 years AFTER Pokémon Black & White are released (2012/2013) with Diamond & Pearl released September 2006, then Platinum, September 2008, then we had HG/SS in 2009 so by this rate it may be announced late 2013 - early 2014, but then again that would be 12 years after R/S was made, which would kind of make sence considering R/G was 8 years, then G/S was 10 years then R/S is 12 years (and there's a 5 year difference between the remakes so far FR/LG - 2004, HG/SS - 2009) but we'll just wait and see, I hope that theory is incorrect!


Also, we'll probally gather some more hints as we play through Black & White when it comes out in March!

Rankurusu January 12th, 2011 2:17 PM

Sapphire = my first pokemon game. I'd love to see what they'd do to improve the graphics and gameplay. Not only that, but I recently lost my copy of it.

The 100 Mega Shock January 12th, 2011 7:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ggctuk (Post 6394125)
I think Pal Park and transferring from generation 3 should return but restrict it to FireRed and LeafGreen.

The feature was removed in the first place because hardware changes make it impossible. That's just going to get worse once the 3DS arrives.

Cooker January 12th, 2011 7:31 PM

Eh, third gen is by my far my favorite and I feel like if they revamped it...it would get ruined if it's anything like the newer gens. I'd probably still buy it honestly because I'm horribly impulsive when it comes to these games but I wouldn't adore it like the original, most likely.

ggctuk January 13th, 2011 3:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock (Post 6395437)
The feature was removed in the first place because hardware changes make it impossible. That's just going to get worse once the 3DS arrives.

Maybe it will, but maybe it won't, seeing as they're planning to have a store to buy retro GB-era games from. All it would need to do is detect the games on the internal memory, or if you own a First-gen DS or DS Lite (like me) it could also read from the GB slot.

blue January 13th, 2011 3:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cooker (Post 6395483)
Eh, third gen is by my far my favorite and I feel like if they revamped it...it would get ruined if it's anything like the newer gens. I'd probably still buy it honestly because I'm horribly impulsive when it comes to these games but I wouldn't adore it like the original, most likely.

Yeah, I woudn't like it too much If they made the graphics similar to Black & White, all 3Dish, it just woudn't be the same.

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE January 13th, 2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Manga (Post 5758262)
This is the easiest question ever.


HELL YES!


I personally love the R/S/E series.

Haha this pretty much sums it up for me as well :P

blue January 13th, 2011 11:53 AM

This would mean that the new Gen V Pokémon would be in it and it may have some link with the Pokéshifter.

Sert908 January 15th, 2011 12:22 PM

I would love to buy a remake if one came out. :DD

Amore January 15th, 2011 12:46 PM

Same. Hopefully it wouldn't have any wild Gen V pokémon. An in-game event involving an event legendary (seems to be the norm now, no?) to unlock something like the Kanto birds or some other unavailable pokémon (out of the few you can't get in Black and White) would be ok, but no wild Gen V. Maybe a couple in the Safari Zone (after all, in Emerald, there were no non-Hoenn 'dex pokémon outside of the Safari Zone), and a few Gen I/II wild pokémon appearing when you have the National Pokédex, but no more. I personally love how Hoenn excluded so many, whilst still keeping a lot of old pokémon. It makes it much more unique.

Bluerang1 January 16th, 2011 7:39 AM

I don't want May and Brendan replaced :( Can't they just do a different revamped Emerald storyline as to a sequel?

champagnepapi January 16th, 2011 11:13 AM

I'd probably preorder the games if they came out, but I'd prefer a yellow remake, tbh.
The one feature I'm really hoping for is full compatibility with a BW game that has beaten the Pokemon League, the follow me feature would be nice as well.
As for the storyline, I doubt they'll do something similar to Emerald, as cool as that would be, for the simple fact that they are remaking Ruby and Sapphire.
I know they added the features in Crystal to HG/SS, but some of Emerald's stuff is too estranged from the original Ruby and Sapphire, to be in both remakes.

The 100 Mega Shock January 16th, 2011 3:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 6402156)
I don't want May and Brendan replaced :( Can't they just do a different revamped Emerald storyline as to a sequel?

They wouldn't do this anyway.



And really, a Yellow remake is very, very unlikely. Yellow was an experiment on Game Freak's part to cash-in on the unexpected success of the cartoon, while also giving them some more time to work on Gold and Silver. Since, Game Freak have never really included any references to the show in their games. They're a very separate thing.

Amore January 17th, 2011 11:00 AM

Agree with the above.

Although I do have hopes for the Emerald storyline...but then there'd only be on remake game, as it'd be pointless giving two the exact same storyline. Plus, I want to be able to choose the remake with Zangoose and/or Lunatone in :)

Also, as I was just playing through Emerald again, and have just recieved my PokéNav, I noticed that there's Devon Corp. worker working on a machine to reproduce the dreams of pokémon. This reference to Gen V has been spotted before. However, do you think that this means the Dream World will be part of the RSE remakes, just via some machine, rather than the dream pokémon?

blue January 20th, 2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6403986)
Also, as I was just playing through Emerald again, and have just recieved my PokéNav, I noticed that there's Devon Corp. worker working on a machine to reproduce the dreams of pokémon. This reference to Gen V has been spotted before. However, do you think that this means the Dream World will be part of the RSE remakes, just via some machine, rather than the dream pokémon?

I remember somebody posting something about this, how the Dream in Black & White is relevant to R/S/E, this could possibly be a hint along with other that may occur when the games get released in English.

Also, I found this on Bulbapedia..
In the anime, it is revealed in BW006 that Fennel's Munna's Dream Eater has the same effect as the Dream Visualiser Devon wanted to make in the anime. But as Munna is a Pokémon from Unova, Devon might not have known about the Pokémon.

Also, i've been doing some thinking about how nintendo do a release with the pattern, remakes, ect. and by the looks of things, we should be getting the news late 2011-early 2012, then the games will be released late 2012 (10 years on) then early 2013 for The rest of the world (Worldwide).

Just added a FEW more hints:

Pokémon Black & White spoiler alert!
Spoiler:

3. Both 6th Gym Leaders of Black and White and Ruby and Sapphire are female Flying type specialists.
4. The genders of the Isshu Elite Four members that specialize in Ghost and Dark types match the Hoenn Elite Four. Both Ghost type specialists are female while both Dark type trainers are male. Only the order is switched between the two leagues.
5. Rapid currents appear on some Isshu water routes. They function exactly like the rapid currents in Seafloor Cavern from Hoenn.
6. The official map of the Isshu region for the upcoming Black and White games was revealed today. It has a massive desert just like the Hoenn region.



Morgnarok January 20th, 2011 3:29 PM

I overall hated the gen 3 games.The gameplay was nice don't get me wrong but i hated the graphics and i hated most of the gen 3 pokemon.So no i wouldn't buy a remake version of them.

GlitchCity January 22nd, 2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 6402156)
I don't want May and Brendan replaced :( Can't they just do a different revamped Emerald storyline as to a sequel?

May and Brendan we not really much of a rival. I hope they fix that :\ give them stronger pokemon and actually have their starter evolved by the final battle. And Wally, he was a good choice for a real rival. I just wish they will allow us to battle more than once before the final battle in Victory Road.

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Originally Posted by Haowakeorden (Post 6402555)
Yes, Emerald's storyline was a combination of both the storylines of Ruby and Sapphire. Keeping Emerald's storyline in both remakes wouldn't help to differentiate between Ruby and Sapphire remakes.

Unless they just make a single Emerald remake. Then, just maybe I might support something like that in Generation V.

A single Emerald remake sounds awesome, but that is the confusing part about the Hoenn reamkes. Are they going to do 2 games or just 1?

The 100 Mega Shock January 22nd, 2011 12:27 PM

mo' games, mo' money, mo' problems.

ggctuk January 22nd, 2011 12:38 PM

The curious thing is, usually the remakes occur in the same timeframes as the main games of that generation. If it were to be a faithful remake, Ruby/Sapphire remakes would be set several years before Black and White.

mikey January 23rd, 2011 1:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Noblebeastx (Post 6409327)
I overall hated the gen 3 games.The gameplay was nice don't get me wrong but i hated the graphics and i hated most of the gen 3 pokemon.So no i wouldn't buy a remake version of them.

I think the main reason why I didn't enjoy the gen III games was because of this. The graphics.

But with the better graphics we have now, I think I may enjoy the remakes and maybe actually like Hoenn. So I am thinking about buying the remakes even if I didn't really enjoy R/S/E.

I think Hoenn in 3D would be awesomeee.

The 100 Mega Shock January 23rd, 2011 2:58 PM

Yeah, Ruby and Sapphire was a very rough transition to larger, full-colour graphics and a new style. Most of the overworld tiles were pretty bad and the general Pokémon sprite style in Gen III isn't nearly as nice as the one in DP and later. (although this was improved to a lesser extent than the overworld tiles in the new FRLG sprites)

HinDae January 23rd, 2011 6:29 PM

hell yeah! theyve done the other 2 generations as remakes, so ruby and sapphire with the emerald story should be on the cards, maybe after theyve let black and white do their rounds nintendo will announce a return to hoenn.

what do you suppose they'll be called?

pokemon volcano and ocean? (not to toot my horn but i like those names :P)

mikey January 24th, 2011 11:43 AM

Magma Ruby & Aqua Sapphire?

Haha, idk. Just thought of them. Although I do like them, since Magma and Aqua are the villains in the game. So it fits :3

blue January 24th, 2011 1:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Toshiro. (Post 6415753)
Magma Ruby & Aqua Sapphire?

Haha, idk. Just thought of them. Although I do like them, since Magma and Aqua are the villains in the game. So it fits :3

Yeah, I have a feeling the names will have something to do with Water and Lava/Magma.

TehPsychicTypeMaster January 24th, 2011 2:18 PM

It would be nice if there was a Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald Remake for the DS, considering that the graphics in the 3rd Gen were'nt too great, and remaking it would change people's minds about how "bad' the 3rd gen was. I would buy the remake if they decide to make it, it would be quite nice.

mikey January 25th, 2011 4:12 PM

I really look forward to these remakes now, since now they'll probably include what B/W include that is new, such as the pokemon moving in battle and seasons and such~

Eagledelt January 26th, 2011 8:51 AM

Not sure if anyone already talked about this here, but in Heart Gold/Soul Silver:

blue January 26th, 2011 9:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Eagledelt (Post 6419366)
Not sure if anyone already talked about this here, but in Heart Gold/Soul Silver:

Also, the books in the bookcase are Red, Blue & Green (R/S/E)... okay maybe that's just me but that's still a good point, I'll add it to the OP, thanks for that!

gamefan1 January 26th, 2011 9:22 AM

personally i think emerald was one of the best pokeon game i played. The battle frontier was amazing and suprisly difficult (im still missing two frontier badge)

not to mention the story about the team magma and aqua Xd i love team magma uniform.

soul and heart are 2 great game but the knew black and white are....let's just say that the pokemon dont really look like pokemon :P

blue January 26th, 2011 9:24 AM

Also people say that R/S wont get remade because they we're for the GBA, well if that's the case then the only two games to get remade and will ever be remade are Red/Green & Gold/Silver, however, with Nintendo bringing out new systems, just take the Dsi for instance, that no longer has a GBA slot nor do any of the other systems following (Dsi XL, 3DS) so if that's the case, they are in the same position as R/B & G/S therefore a remake is plausable.

The 100 Mega Shock January 26th, 2011 9:29 AM

what?

The Game Freak employee is talking about Heart Gold and Soul Silver. There isn't any deep meaning to that dialogue, just a use of the present tense.

Linkdude231 January 26th, 2011 10:00 AM

i agree with gamefan1 on all three of his comments :)

JustKidingYa January 27th, 2011 10:47 AM

if you take the D/P pokecenter pokeball design(the white part) and switch the green on HG SS pokeball design you get a white pokeball on a black backgroundand a green pokeball filled with gold and silver
and on HG SS the cerulen cave hase alot of emeralds in it

they might be called
Pokemon MindRuby and SpiritSapphire
i know "mindruby" sucks, but "Spirit Sapphire" is good

blue January 27th, 2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock (Post 6419405)
what?

The Game Freak employee is talking about Heart Gold and Soul Silver. There isn't any deep meaning to that dialogue, just a use of the present tense.

It dosen't make sence if it's about HG/SS, giving that the dialouge is in HG/SS.

mikey January 27th, 2011 4:00 PM

^ Exactly, so I think that they are talking about R/S/E remakes. I mean, it could maybe mean HG/SS, but it seems unlikely since that dialogue is in HG/SS.

blue January 28th, 2011 6:23 AM

I don't think that this has any relevance but today, Nintendo revealed

"In addition to this, they confirmed that there are 3DS and Wii titles in development for the Pokémon series"

And for every New console (major console) there has been a new game

(Red/Blue) - Gameboy
(Gold/Silver) - Gameboy Colour
(Ruby/Sapphire) - Gameboy Advance
(Fire Red & Leaf Green) - Gameboy Advance SP
(Diamond & Pearl) - Nintendo DS
(Heart Gold & Soul Silver) - Nintendo DSi
(??? & ???) - Nintendo 3DS - Possibly Sapphire & Ruby Remakes.

The 100 Mega Shock January 28th, 2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 6421764)
It dosen't make sence if it's about HG/SS, giving that the dialouge is in HG/SS.

Yes it does. Their dialogue is talking to the player about what developing HGSS was like, seeing as there isn't a way for the player to be told this before the games come out.

Gero50 January 28th, 2011 11:26 AM

Yeah I would buy it. I enjoyed the ones that are out now. So a remake might be nice. Though I would hope they would take their time with it so it turned out good or at least decent.

Maruno January 28th, 2011 1:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 6421764)
It dosen't make sence if it's about HG/SS, giving that the dialouge is in HG/SS.

Perhaps you're forgetting that the same people in both Generation 1 and 2 talked about the very game they were in, not about some future game.

I do wish people would stop grasping at straws.

mikey January 30th, 2011 1:17 PM

Okay people calm down it's just a guess.

Anyways, I really hope that these remakes will be for DS, because I have no interest in the Nintendo 3DS thing.

jab2033 January 31st, 2011 8:56 AM

I'd definetly love a RSE remake.

I don't care what they're called, but I'd definetly buy it.

Shining Raichu February 2nd, 2011 1:44 AM

In addition to Ruby and Sapphire, I'd love it if they remade Pokemon Yellow for 3DS. How goddamn awesome would that be?

The 100 Mega Shock February 2nd, 2011 5:07 AM

Not very. This idea comes up every few pages, and well, when was the last time you saw Game Freak involve the cartoon in their games in anyway? Yellow was a quick way to cash in on the show's unexpected success, and a way for Game Freak to buy time while the development of Pocket Monsters 2 (later going on to become Pokémon Gold and Silver) was restructured for the Game Boy Colour.

mikey February 2nd, 2011 10:20 AM

A yellow remake would basically be the same thing as a Red and Blue remake. And not to mention that it's been done before.

Anyways, I've been playing my Ruby recently and I have to admit it's getting my pumped for a R/S/E remake. Now I really want one lol.

The 100 Mega Shock February 2nd, 2011 12:24 PM

It's also harder to separate a Yellow remake into two versions to maximise profits.

Shining Raichu February 2nd, 2011 1:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Toshiro. (Post 6432307)
A yellow remake would basically be the same thing as a Red and Blue remake. And not to mention that it's been done before.

Yeah, it has been done before, except that Yellow Version is the most different from its core games, making it a far more valid option than say, remaking Crystal or Emerald (though, in a few console generations' time, I'd like to see Crystal remade also). Also, extending the gameplay to beyond Kanto would be easier in a Yellow remake as it loosely follows the anime story.

But anyway, Ruby and Sapphire should be the priority. I thought despite the graphics update, they weren't as good as Gold and Silver were, so I think another facelift would do Hoenn some good.

Jamatran256 February 2nd, 2011 6:23 PM

I wouldn't mind a R/S remake just like G/S with new stuff thrown in. I know after I beat R/B/Y I was excited about G/S but never played them. By the way you guys make me feel old after all I played R/B/Y in highschool senior year and now pushing a good 30 and can't wait to play B/W. Yes Kanto was remade a lot but honestly its just cause it was in two sets of games. I own HeartGold and am glad to have finally played through the entire game instead of half way through on my japanese emulator.

dithyrambos February 2nd, 2011 6:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 6423481)
I don't think that this has any relevance but today, Nintendo revealed

"In addition to this, they confirmed that there are 3DS and Wii titles in development for the Pokémon series"

And for every New console (major console) there has been a new game

(Red/Blue) - Gameboy
(Gold/Silver) - Gameboy Colour
(Ruby/Sapphire) - Gameboy Advance
(Fire Red & Leaf Green) - Gameboy Advance SP
(Diamond & Pearl) - Nintendo DS
(Heart Gold & Soul Silver) - Nintendo DSi
(??? & ???) - Nintendo 3DS - Possibly Sapphire & Ruby Remakes.

This was definitely some of the most exciting news I have read on Serebii. I really hope it's not a spin-off game ( like another Pokemon Typing, lolwut ). Although I personally think it would be better if Pokemon's debut on the 3DS was a new generation, not a remake, it seems a bit early for them to be working on two new games completely from the ground up (i.e. RSE already has an established story, pokemon, characters, ect. that simply needs to be prettied up ).

Someone replied to another post of mine a few pages back and basically said that the same team who works on the main series games doesn't need to work on the remakes. And this makes complete sense when one takes considers how close the release dates for HGSS and Pt were. So it seems to me that remakes are more likely in development now than two new main generation games.


The 100 Mega Shock February 3rd, 2011 5:48 AM

The HGSS team was most likely split up after development of that game finished. One group would be assigned to the last push to finish off BW's development, while the rest either sat on their chairs twiddling their thumbs or were getting to grips with the 3DS SDK and starting on the massive overhaul of assets that'd be needed for a next-gen Pokémon game. And yes, going by the same timeframe as since RSE, we'll see the next version of BW in 2012, a new Pokémon game in 2014 and a remake of Ruby and Sapphire sometime during that 2 year period.


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