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The only reason I'm having doubts is because I was kinda convinced that it was aimed for the 10 year anniversary but it doesn't look like it's going that way since B2W2 has thrown a spanner in the works, there's 2013 but I'm not 100% sure, yet.
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I've been doubting the remake now, especially with all the hype around B2W2 and how much focus is put on them. Besides, I feel like the other remakes were remade because the Pokemon weren't able to be transferred from Gen I/Gen II to Gen III, while Gen III can be transferred beyond. That might be why it's not as hyped or even mentioned... I don't know, I'm just throwing ideas out.
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RSE's GBA graphics were decent up until the release of Black & White IMO, everything in Generation V is much more 3D rendered and in comparison to RSE it's like comparing Diamond and Pearl to Gold & Silver so I would say graphics is one of the factors that contribute to a remake.
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The only reason why Gens 1 and 2 were remade was because of compatibility. They were the only games that were not compatible with the newer generations. Generation 3 completely changed how the games were structured as well as added the split between Special Attack and Special Defense. There were so many things changed that transferring Pokemon from Gens 1 and 2 was impossible. That is not the case with Gen 3 and Current Gens. Gen 3 is compatible through a second medium which is Gen 4 games. When Gen 6 comes out for the 3DS they would be completely incompatible with Generation 3 games since they are on a console which isn't compatible with GBA games at all. It also fits the pattern of remakes appearing on the next gaming console down the line. We also don't know how they'd treat transfers seeing as transfers seem to be getting stricter as the generations go on. The current DS issue isn't an argument of Compatibility, its an argument of simplicity. Gen 5 is compatible with Gen 3, just not in an easy or direct way. Gen 6 wouldn't be because they wouldn't be directly compatible with Gen 4, and for all we know they may lose compatibility with Gen 5 if they decide to rework things again. |
I think Black 2 & White 2 will be the last of the mainstream Pokémon games to be on the Nintendo DS, anything after will be developed for 3DS. It's the latest and strongest handheld for Nintendo currently, it can generate much better graphics and it would be silly not to put the next line of games on the 3DS. I think we will see remakes, Mystery Dungeon 4 & Ranger 4 all on 3DS assuming they are in the works, the 3DS is becoming increasingly popular and without a GBA slot a remake is quite prominent.
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I'd say that the main, or rather only reason GF made gens 1 and 2 incompatible with other gens was to force people to buy remakes (that's why I think FR/LG were released so shortly after R/S). I doubt they will make something like that again and cut connection between gen 6 and others because at this time, there are too many Pokemon to do that. Assuming they will never cut connection between any gens again, they still tried to "cut" connection between gens 3 and 5. Look what they did with Poke Transfer. Why it's not compatible with gen 3? Imo, first reason is that gen 5 is made especially for DSi which doesn't have GBA slot. Second reason is to make impossible to transfer between gens 3 and 5, which means gen 3 is actually "retired". Even though gen 3 is not completely separated like gens 1 and 2, for young generations of players, it became retro generation. For old players who own old DS and R/S/E, there is no need for R/S remakes. But for everybody who recently started playing and owns only DSi or onwards, remakes ARE needed. Those new customers are very important for Nintendo because they will surely buy R/S remakes in gen 5, meaning extra money made from gen 5. |
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It's not the compatibility, I think. It's the games themselves the company's looking for. All my GBA games are lost thanks to my then overly scatterbrained trait as a child (thankfully, I am not that much of a scatterbrain now), and I want to see Hoenn in 3D. Besides, there are many newer fans who can't acquire the games since they're discontinued. BTW, with the release of B/W2, I think that they're probably releasing an Emerald remake instead to keep the Generation five games. |
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And again, it would fit the pattern of each Remake being made for the system one after their's. Red/Blue was for the Gameboy, Remake was for the Advance which came after the Color. Gold/Silver was for the Color, Remake was for the DS which came after the Advance. Since R/S was for the Advance, their remakes would be for the 3DS which is after the DS series. I mean we are pretty close to the DSi series consoles to be discontinued. If the DSi lasts until November it'll be a miracle but it doesn't have a long estimated shelf life. |
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And Nintendo has 1 (ONE) DSi Game in existence. They won't be making another because the sales of that one was horrendous. That's why the games are still DS games. And again the DSi is soon to be removed from the market. If it survives through the rest of the year without any news then that would be a miracle in itself. DS game lineup is dwindling. Almost all the new games coming out are 3DS games. Nintendo is about to do a full switch like they always do. |
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Unova is more resembling Kanto as a Solid region with a few out of the way islands that don't play part in the story as opposed to Hoenn that about half water routes. A severe lack of Water Routes in Unova makes it seem closer to Sinnoh in that design. Others have argued against your viewed opinions on the similarities. You are the only one that sees those similarities. |
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I can't prove anything officially, but think about it. What a nasty "coincidence" is that they blocked trading to R/S and after only 14 months they released FR/LG - first remakes ever, necessary to catch most of gens' 1 and 2 Pokemon. At the time of producing R/S, they must have plans for FR/LG and Emerald. They obviously saved story of Rayquaza and Battle Frontier to be used in Emerald. So, it they planned Emerald, they must have planned FR/LG as well because those games were released earlier than Emerald. Quote:
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I never said Hoenn's and Unova's overall designs are similar because they aren't. Anyway, lack of water routes in Unova can work as opposition to large water routes in Hoenn. To keep regions of gen 5 balanced in amount of water (assuming Hoenn will be remade in gen 5). |
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Keep it civil, people. I'd hate to have to lock such a good thread because certain people can't behave. I have had my fair share of problems with this thread, and I'm nearly at my end with it. It's a nuisance. Don't make it any worse by calling people out as hypocrites and etc. This is PGC, not OC&D.
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I regret now that I corrected your mistake because it caused another post war between us. |
Fire and water caves in B2W2 hmmm?
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The presence of the caves kind of makes me think we might be seeing only one remake (Emerald) as they might contain Groudon and Kyogre, either that or it's simply a major hint ^_^.
You might be right Xander, maybe if we're lucky they'll release the remakes at the end of this year (a little late for the exact anniversity but still within the 10th year) and have them out by March of 2013...though that'll make B2W2's period quite short...more so than Firered and Leafgreen's. |
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plain remakes (ala FRLG HGSS) would suck. A new game in Hoenn on the other hand... O:! |
A re vision of Hoenn might be interesting as there has only been one and it wasn't remodeled at all.
I mean. There has been 3 uses of Kanto in the spread of 8 games. (RBY/GSC/HGSS). However, I would find it rather redundant as Hoeen incorporates almost all of the advanced aspects of the new generations. Ie, Type differences, EV training; stuff like that. I would buy it if it was released, but I wouldn't be sad if it was never made. |
Water & Magma Cave in B2W2? To me, that's definitely something that could be classed as a hint, the fact that it's Water and Magma.
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I said next year because they usually produce a remake a year or so after the last main title. Releasing for christmas this year would lower sales of B2W2 or the remakes as both would be pokemon's main focus for sales which is destructive to the company. At the earliest I can see a feb. or march release as it wouldn't have as drastic of an wffect on estimated sales. If not then the remakes could be next years main focus depending on what Gamefreak and Nintendo plan on doing marketing wise.
As for the caves in B2W2, watch we get trolled and they'll have either a) nothing to do with hoenn. Or b) have groudon/kyogre in them as an after game catch. |
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