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imsoooonewb November 3rd, 2004 8:36 PM

I Need Some Serious Help, Help Me Be Competitive Please!
 
Electabuzz
Strength
Light Screen
Psychic
Thunderbolt
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To sum it up "s***" cant kill crap with its SA and moves that are not very effective take half it's HP. ! i wanna drop it so bad but dont know what to raise.



Snorlax
Rest
Hyper Beam
Sleep Talk
Body Slam
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it's ok i use it as a tank, and as my friends use s*** of staus effects i use the snorlax



Rhydon
Rock Blast
Horn Drill
Double Edge
Focus Punch
Quote:
Good if they dont have SA attacks, 4 weakness + hard to get in right circumstance close to best though, **** im sad arnt i?


Gyarados
Hydro Pump
EQ
Hyper Beam
Dragon Dance
Quote:
best, regulary wins games, only consisten good performer.


Blastoise
Attract
Body Slam
Surf
Skull Bash
Quote:
CRAP to average


Gengar
Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Shadow Ball
Destiny Bond
Quote:
2ND BEST

Quote:
I've only recently found out about EV training, ive actually won some battles but soon il coming up against my friends team who have used EVS more than me friend one's team im gonna play him when ur pokes get to 60, i know im **** i wanna surprise him, he says he'll HYER BEAM MA WHOLE TEAM TO DEATH................... and he prolly will! ALL of the above pokemon have roles! mine dont besides gyardos and rhydon being the attacking blokes, i need some help some alternatives, some evaluation something PLEASE help im really desperate I WANNT RAISE A MILTANK, WITH TOXIS, BEING A TANK A HEALER AND A STATUS EFFECT POKEMON! how??!!??!

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Happy Dude November 3rd, 2004 10:30 PM

im confused who are you battling.

and please dont swear its against the rules.

Frostweaver November 3rd, 2004 10:46 PM

Read the advanced trainer's guide first for starter... refer to the battledex for Blastoise as well. After you're done reading, revise over your own team once more first, then let's see where we get from there.

Anarchytekt November 3rd, 2004 10:54 PM

Your team ain't balanced! First, you've got 2 water pokemon in ur team! No grass, fighting, fire or psychic! If you have g/s/c, refer to Ash, I mean the Red guy in Silver cave. He has the ultimate team, 1 electric, 1 fire/flying, grass, water, normal, psychic. That's like one of the most competent teams. Also try to teach your psychic pokemon some ghost moves, it will be helpful. Make them learn as many moves of different types as possible. Then u r on ur way to winning, no matter which game u r playing. That's my strategy.:)

Frostweaver November 3rd, 2004 10:57 PM

Type doesn't matter at all... I usually make a competitive team that doesn't even use fire attacks at all >>; Basically, as long as you got

-a hazer/pseudohazer
-special sponge
-physical tank
-physical sweeper
-special sweeper
-quick attacker/sandstorm/hail

Then type doesn't really matter... Plus you can make an all water team in competitive battling, and you can still get one attack for all elements for example.

Anarchytekt November 3rd, 2004 11:46 PM

-a hazer/pseudohazer
-special sponge
-physical tank
-physical sweeper
-special sweeper
-quick attacker/sandstorm/hail

What's that? Never heard of it!
I think type does matter in a pokemon game to an extent. An all water type wouldn't stand a chance against, electric, grass gyms or the elite four. No matter how many moves of different types you teach them, in the end they are water types and that makes them weak against grass and electricity. Eve in the games you must have noticed people telling you when u start out : Train with different types of pokemon so that you can take on gymleaders of different types. Besides, water pokemon only cannot learn moves of all types. Which water pokemon knows Fire Blast? LOL! So I think type does matter. In the end though, it is not pokemon type or move type that matters, all that matters is victory. :)

Demonion November 4th, 2004 7:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Falcon
-a hazer/pseudohazer
-special sponge
-physical tank
-physical sweeper
-special sweeper
-quick attacker/sandstorm/hail

What's that? Never heard of it!
I think type does matter in a pokemon game to an extent. An all water type wouldn't stand a chance against, electric, grass gyms or the elite four.

Swampert, Quaqsire, Ludicolo, Tentacruel, Kingdra, Gyarados. 4 resistant to electric, 4 resistant to grass. Water pokemon ONLY

Besides, water pokemon only cannot learn moves of all types. Which water pokemon knows Fire Blast? LOL! So I think type does matter. In the end though, it is not pokemon type or move type that matters, all that matters is victory. :)[/QUOTE]

Slowbro/Slowking learns Fire Blast

Btw: which move is better? Flamethrower/Fire Blast and Surf/Hydro Pump? :) (for red falcon only)

Mana Lugia November 4th, 2004 8:02 AM

Octillery also gets Flamethrower, along with a slew of special attacks that is somewhat supported by a 309 special attack.

too bad it sucks =x

Anarchytekt November 4th, 2004 8:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonion
Swampert, Quaqsire, Ludicolo, Tentacruel, Kingdra, Gyarados. 4 resistant to electric, 4 resistant to grass. Water pokemon ONLY

Besides, water pokemon only cannot learn moves of all types. Which water pokemon knows Fire Blast? LOL! So I think type does matter. In the end though, it is not pokemon type or move type that matters, all that matters is victory. :)

Slowbro/Slowking learns Fire Blast

Btw: which move is better? Flamethrower/Fire Blast and Surf/Hydro Pump? :) (for red falcon only)[/QUOTE]

OK dominion, I think both are good. Depends on which pokemon they are used against! BTW, if u think this is like some sort of competition about which type is good, then I ain't playing. I have no grudges against water types, I was just trying to help that person out. No competition, please!:) Flamethrower has 95 power like Surf I think, and FireBlast and HydroPump both have 120 power, so both are equal. Of course if the competition was between Fire and water, water would win hands down!:)

Demonion November 4th, 2004 8:32 AM

let me reform the question: if you would give charizard one fire attack would it be flamethrower or fireblast and if you would give blastoise one water attack would it be surf or hydropump?

Frostweaver November 4th, 2004 11:52 AM

If you don't know what's a hazer and stuff, go read the advanced trainer's guide as well. Most likely, we're still at the stage where we have both razor leaf and frenzy plant on your Venusaur, Red Falcon... >>;

kirby00 November 4th, 2004 4:46 PM

i only use frenzy plant b/c it does 90 more damage than solar beam (with stab added), and the gap evens widens more when overgrow kicks it. usually use it as a back up, after i use sleep powder, leech seed. then i could use sludge bomb or any other good attack possibly the hp psycals. neways frenzy plant can be used, but mostly for a last resort like over heat. plus sumtimes power does matter like if u know it will 1hko a pokemon u r fighting rrather than taking 2-3 turns trying to razor leaf or solarbeam, hoping for critical hits.

Anarchytekt November 4th, 2004 8:16 PM

Hey, why r all of u turning up against me? I was just trying to help that person!:) Are you all part of a 'Hate Red Falcon' Club or something?:rambo: If u have any suggestions better than mine, you have to give it to that person not me. I finished the games with a good set of pokemon with good movesets as well, and I wasn't the one who asked for any help here.:laugh:

Frostweaver November 4th, 2004 9:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Falcon
Hey, why r all of u turning up against me? I was just trying to help that person!:) Are you all part of a 'Hate Red Falcon' Club or something?:rambo: If u have any suggestions better than mine, you have to give it to that person not me. I finished the games with a good set of pokemon with good movesets as well, and I wasn't the one who asked for any help here.:laugh:

finishing the game is irrelevant... it's the expected and minimum requirement for even posting in this forum... And afterall I am the "mother of all hatred" according to some, so sue me ;p Seriously, if that is "good set of Pokemon with good movesets" then I shall consider crying...

As for Frenzy Plant, it's not usable unlike overheat, because overheat you can do something after using it, such as other attacks especially physical ones. Frenzy plant forces you to stay and do nothing. Even if you score a KO, you're making yourself at a huge disadvantage by giving them time to dance up to sweep you. Overheat can be healed with white herb, or simply using other attacks which is usually the chase.

Anarchytekt November 4th, 2004 9:06 PM

I never said I had only Frenzy Plant anywhere!! Let's just leave this topic out and start out by helping imsooonewb. Anyway, frostweaver, nov4 was ur b'day right? Happy Birthday! Mine was on nov2! I'm 2 days older than u! I'm 16 too!

Kylie-chan November 4th, 2004 11:00 PM

actually those movesets use my greatest strategy - BRUTE FORCE! meh, not great but hey let's all take advantage of moves like Growl when the foe uses them!

Frosty - ;) last time I checked you were a booooooooyyy... "mother" of all hatred... XD

Red Falcon - this isn't about you. Besides, I want to be the only member all un-self-confident! At least it's something to be on my own! ;) My sn is taken EVERYWHERE...

imsoooonewb November 6th, 2004 9:45 PM

my team is brute force i have now dropped electabuzz added skarmory and em gonna drop rhdyon and add TYRANITAR

Kylie-chan November 12th, 2004 1:51 AM

Mine is brute force too... Am I newbie thus? I just like tanks... works for me.

-_- see " ~" (stuffed the title accidentally) for full explanation.


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