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Waki Tobaye May 6th, 2010 4:00 PM

"Swords Dance doesn't do anything, I'll make him learn HYPER BEAM!"
 
Were you one of those persons who put stat-increasing moves on their Pokémon? Or did you just put offensive attacks, thinking that stat-increasing didn't do anything?

I remember thinking that Swords Dance, Agility, Calm Mind, Haze, Focus Energy and those moves didn't do anything; so (in-game) I sold them and bought some other things. But they're really useful in Competitive Battling, Batton Pass + Sword Dance or Calm Mind or something + Suction Cups Pokémon = :D

Oh, but that was a long, long time ago; what about you? Did you make your Pokémon's movepool offensive, defensive or anything goes; or what?

Skystrike May 6th, 2010 4:03 PM

All moves, unless it was something like Thunder Wave or Will-o-Wisp.
I always think moves like Tail Whip don't do anything

amberrelf May 6th, 2010 4:10 PM

XD When I was little, I was all about the offensive moves.
Now I try to have at least one defensive move, or at least one that raises attack when used or something.

AikuSeverin May 6th, 2010 4:33 PM

all my pokemon have taunt or torment, and my poisons have toxic or toxic spikes, they is goood, i only recently started using them and found out how epic they are, especially gainst koga

shookie May 6th, 2010 4:38 PM

Obviously if I plan on EV training my Pokémon then I pick the moves that they need, but if I'm just going to use them in-game to run around with, I mostly go with offensive moves.

darkshiek May 6th, 2010 4:40 PM

I rarely use non-attack moves as far as in game play. But in competitive, I love me some SDs and Stealth Rocks.

Fli May 6th, 2010 4:53 PM

Pretty much offensive only...

When I was little this was because I saw no immediate effects of tail whip (a cheating AI vs. a lower health bar? your choice...) Also, I was big into the one-hit KO's because, now don't laugh, I freaked out when the opponent used a stat-changing move; I was sure that my stats were stuck at the low place that the move put them at (even healing could never ever put the stat where it was originally), so that was actually worse in my mind then using a damaging move. It still freaks me out a little today.

So yeah, my moves are generally all offensive (and I don't do competitive battles, so that's not a factor). Now don't get me wrong, defensive moves have their advantages, but I would rather over- level and OHKO than patiently lower my opponent's stats and attack with an equal-level pokemon.

Spikey-Eared Pichu May 6th, 2010 5:36 PM

Only recently have I started to use non-offensive moves. When I was younger, I would give my Pokemon moves like Fire Blast and Thunder because they did a lot of damage. Now, I use Flamethrower and Thunderbolt.

*Charizard* May 6th, 2010 5:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amberrelf (Post 5778232)
XD When I was little, I was all about the offensive moves.
Now I try to have at least one defensive move, or at least one that raises attack when used or something.

Exactly what i did when i was little, attack attack attack is all that i would think about. Now it's balancing your pokemon moves...

Izanagi May 6th, 2010 5:49 PM

That's how I used to be too. Now, unless there's a special reason, I always have 2 stat modifying moves in my Pokemon's attack list.

mew² May 6th, 2010 6:06 PM

I never use defensive moves unless I am making a Wall Pokemon.
Like with my Umbreon, It has Wish, Toxic, Protect, and Dark Pulse.

But with Sweepers or anything else, it's strictly hard attacks with a lot of power.
Like with my Metagross, It has Bullet Punch, Meteor Mash, Earthquake, and some other move I cannot remember. ^_^

Waffle-San May 6th, 2010 6:07 PM

Yeah I didn't realise they did anything until I was around 12 and got back into Pokemon. Today I'll keep moves that raise my own Pokemon's stats (ie. Calm Mind, Swords Dance, Dragon Dance etc.) but moves that lower my opponents stats I don't have time to bother with...except maybe Charm. That one works alright. :P

Waki Tobaye May 6th, 2010 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fli (Post 5778360)
...I was big into the one-hit KO's...

Oh, that's true, I also remember using Fissure and Sheer Cold a lot. Even though it failed almost every time I used it, I was amazed by their "power" xD

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkshiek (Post 5778324)
... I love me some SDs and Stealth Rocks...

I use entry hazards a lot now, I need to have at least one layer of any entry hazard on competitive battles to be happy. xD
Dual Screens are also helpful.

So guys, did you use OHKO moves back then? And what about entry hazards and dual screens?

chezhead May 6th, 2010 6:29 PM

I just used offensive as a kid, but now, I will occasionally use some random status move or something that lowers something "sharply". Any attack that lowers/raises something less than sharply is a waste of a turn.

rockman0 May 6th, 2010 6:45 PM

Lol, story of my life. This was a typical battle between me and Green in the Red version.

Dee's Pokemon used Tackle. 1/5 hp down
Green used tail whip.
Dee's Pokemon used Tackle.
Green used tail whip.
Dee's Pokemon used Tackle.
Green used Tail Whip.
Dee's Pokemon used Tackle.
Me: Heh heh, Green is so stupid.
Green used Tackle. Dee is out of usable Pokemon. Dee blacked out!
Me: no fair! gameboy hits the ground.

But now, I know that status changing moves are much more valuable.

Ayselipera May 6th, 2010 6:56 PM

I'm all about offense. I like Pokemon with high attack and speed just so I can get the job done. Although I'll occasionally settle for a status move. The few that I use are...

- Confuse Ray
- Toxic
- Leech Seed
- Will-o-Wisp

... and that's about it. Well that's about the extent! :3

jon328 May 6th, 2010 7:02 PM

i used to be one of those kids. haha i remember those days :D

.Gamer May 6th, 2010 7:03 PM

I hate statting up because in game AI is so dumb i hurt myself.

Timbjerr May 6th, 2010 7:05 PM

When I was younger, I was all about offense...most of my pokemon carries 2-3 STAB attacks and one Normal attack. (when I was a kid, I thought normal was the only physical type and everything else was special. XD)

Nowadays, the pokemon I use both in-game and competitively usually have one STAB attack, one attack for type coverage (or another STAB attack for dual-type pokemon), one status inflicting move (thunder wave, confuse Ray, Toxic, etc.), and one stat-altering move (swords Dance, Nasty Plot, Agility, etc.)

I actually play rather defensively nowadays, abusing status conditions and entry hazards for all they're worth. >:D

Alexeon May 6th, 2010 7:06 PM

Hm...I remember all the way back in Red version, I'd only use my Charizard the entire game, with Slash being the attack I'd use on mostly everything, seeing as back then, it'd crit 100% on pretty much anything. If I were up against a Rock or Ghost-type, I'd use Flamethrower/Fire Blast...and if I ran out of PP or got bored of those two moves, I'd use Earthquake or Cut...

Really didn't take much more than that back then. xD But yea, now I love buffs. Dragon Dance, Swords Dance, Agility, Calm Mind...just thinking about these moves pumps me up lol.

BHwolfgang May 6th, 2010 7:35 PM

Back when I first started Pokemon, my team would only use offensive moves. I didn't realize how useful moves such as Screech, Sword Dance, Calm Mind, etc. were. To be honest, I actually thought that those moves were useless. How wrong was I.

Nowadays, most of my Pokemons would have at least one stat reducing or boosting move in their move slot. The AI just doesn't switch out their Pokemons enough for me to use Spikes or Toxic Spikes.

Gymnotide May 6th, 2010 7:49 PM

I use all moves as often as I can.
Try using Magic Coat. It makes you a pro.

Bluerang1 May 6th, 2010 11:28 PM

I always use offensive thinking defensive is a waste a time :$ But I vary the moveset... now this is General Pokemon Gaming :P

SIN1488 May 6th, 2010 11:51 PM

For the longest time I only used offensive moves. It was only recently that I realized how good defensive moves can be if used right. Before that, I used to think they were a waste of a turn.

Witch May 7th, 2010 6:32 AM

I don't use defensive moves much :X I never really saw the point if your pokemon are well trained


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